Any hype about Draymond Green deserving the DPOY over Kawhi should now be dead

[JerrySeinfeld]

Kawhi would be far and away the Warriors best player right now.

[imdaman99]

Most knowledgeable people knew that was a well worthy award. Green is so so overrated. He isn't even the best defensive player on his own team. There's someone who comes off the bench that is better than him.

Kawhi was 'holding' Lebron to 28 last year (much less, as a lot of those points came when the games were decided) meanwhile if Green was covering Lebron, he would be averaging 50. He is lucky Iggy is there to somewhat slow Lebron down. He is also getting manhandled by the guy he is covering as well, TT. Very overrated defender.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Bron took what, 16 shots a game vs the Spurs in the Finals last year? And like a third or half of those were in garbage time when Kawhi was getting his rest on the bench cause his job was done.

You look at LeBron vs the Warriors and it's open season, he can get whatever he wants, whenever.

For as hyped as the Warriors defense has been this year it seems like they really struggle with SF's cause Durant and LeBron always torch them

[BlakFrankWhite]

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[T_L_P]

Neither of them deserved it.

And Kawhi was even worse defensively than Draymond this postseason.

Dray playing like a bitch right now though.

[JerrySeinfeld]

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http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=379137

lol Durant certainly could average 50 PPG vs either of these Finals teams on the right volume because they'd have no one to even guard him.

Realistically he'd probably average something like 35 PPG on 60% while getting plenty of 4th quarter rest

[navy]

Green's defense has been great and much better than Kawhi's in the postseason....

He cant guard Lebron but that's not his job.

[ClipperRevival]

Yes, right now, given how this series is playing out, I would say he would be GSW's best player. That's why there is always tremendous value in a great, two-way, wing player because they can play different styles. Both up tempo and the physical, half court. Leonard is strong enough to bang when he has too. He would help them tremendously on both ends.

Curry/Klay are too finesse and can't play physical. Same with Babosa and Livingston. Too much finesse, not enough physicality.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Green's defense has been great and much better than Kawhi's in the postseason....

He cant guard Lebron but that's not his job.

lol he's basically the same build as LeBron, wants the DPOY award and out of all of Cleveland's players right now, his job ain't to guard him but rather to get his ass taken to town by TT.... makes no sense.

Warriors should consider going big, Green at the 3, with Lee/Bogut at the 4/5

[JerrySeinfeld]

If Durant averaged 32 PPG on 64% TS vs Battier/Wade/LeBron defending him, imagine what he'd do to Cleveland if OKC stayed healthy and made the Finals....

LeBron couldn't even attempt to guard him, he needs all his energy for offense right now where he is carrying a larger load than ever. It'd be an easy sweep for OKC since Cleveland wouldn't be able to match his star production.

Bron's efficency isn't a problem cause the Warriors are just getting their shit pushed in but vs a team with stars who show up in the Finals Cleveland would be ****ed for their lack of top end talent right now

[livinglegend]

Most knowledgeable people knew that was a well worthy award. Green is so so overrated. He isn't even the best defensive player on his own team. There's someone who comes off the bench that is better than him.

Kawhi was 'holding' Lebron to 28 last year (much less, as a lot of those points came when the games were decided) meanwhile if Green was covering Lebron, he would be averaging 50. He is lucky Iggy is there to somewhat slow Lebron down. He is also getting manhandled by the guy he is covering as well, TT. Very overrated defender.

The same could have been said for Leonard in the playoffs.

[livinglegend]

If Durant averaged 32 PPG on 64% TS vs Battier/Wade/LeBron defending him, imagine what he'd do to Cleveland if OKC stayed healthy and made the Finals....

LeBron couldn't even attempt to guard him, he needs all his energy for offense right now where he is carrying a larger load than ever. It'd be an easy sweep for OKC since Cleveland wouldn't be able to match his star production.

Bron's efficency isn't a problem cause the Warriors are just getting their shit pushed in but vs a team with stars who show up in the Finals Cleveland would be ****ed for their lack of top end talent right now

Keep talking in hypothetical.
The only way you can't lose an ''argument''.
ISH members are good at it.
''should have'', ''would have'', ''could have'', ....

[T_L_P]

The same could have been said for Leonard in the playoffs.

Debatable for Regular Season.

Not up for debate in Playoffs. Kawhi wasn't even the 2nd best defender.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Keep talking in hypothetical.
The only way you can't lose an ''argument''.
ISH members are good at it.
''should have'', ''would have'', ''could have'', ....

lol who's arguing anything bruh?

Just talking about what Durant has done in the Finals compared to what Curry is doing.

Vast differences

[livinglegend]

lol who's arguing anything bruh?

Just talking about what Durant has done in the Finals compared to what Curry is doing.

Vast differences

No, you went into hypothetical situations.
It's easy to make those claims when you know you can't be proven wrong.



It'd be an easy sweep for OKC since Cleveland wouldn't be able to match his star production.

Bron's efficency isn't a problem cause the Warriors are just getting their shit pushed in but vs a team with stars who show up in the Finals Cleveland would be ****ed for their lack of top end talent right now

[livinglegend]

Debatable for Regular Season.

Not up for debate in Playoffs. Kawhi wasn't even the 2nd best defender.
Totally agree.
Green and Duncan were much better in the playoffs.

[navy]

Kawhi's defense was exposed by the Clippers to be honest, he cant get around screens because he's too big and too slow. Popovich's fault for not seeing the obvious. I suspect any smart coach who watched will make the proper adjustments to take him out the play.

Draymond cant defend perimeter players at all though. So there is that I guess.

[KNOW1EDGE]

It was always dead.

It should have never even been born, it was ISHs accidental baby.

Dray mind Green is a career bench player. He will never be a starter on a championship caliber team.

Can't wait to see which team signs him to a big deal, only to amnesty him a few years later. Not a big fan of his...

[aj1987]

LeBron couldn't even attempt to guard him, he needs all his energy for offense right now where he is carrying a larger load than ever. It'd be an easy sweep for OKC since Cleveland wouldn't be able to match his star production.
OKC would've gotten swept in 4 straight blowouts. Delly and Shump would shut down KD.


Bron's efficency isn't a problem cause the Warriors are just getting their shit pushed in but vs a team with stars who show up in the Finals Cleveland would be ****ed for their lack of top end talent right now
Green, Iggy, and the rest of the Warriors are being physical AF. Imagine this LeBron going up against the soft ass Thunder defense. Game over. If it was KD in LeBron's place, he'd be going to the line 20+ times a game. KD can't handle physical defenses. The Cav's are playing extremely physical as well.

In short, the Thunder have literally no one who can guard LeBron. KD can't play physical defenses. OKC would get swept in 4 blowouts.

[JerrySeinfeld]

KD would be getting 20 FT's a game vs the Warriors but vs the Cavs would be getting shut down by Dellavadova and Shumpert

:oldlol:

[Ne 1]

Bron took what, 16 shots a game vs the Spurs in the Finals last year?


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[KirbyPls]

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2013 is last year? Good to know.

[jlip]

What did Leonard do in this year's playoffs to strengthen his case over Green?

[aj1987]

2013 is last year? Good to know.
:roll:

Dumb**** thinks 2013 = 2014. Should probably watch the games instead of the boxscores.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Disagree Draymonds offense is the problem right now, not his D
CP3 was TORCHING Kawhi on the pickandroll constantly, especially in the last couple games, nikka was gettin owned and exposed:lol :lol

[BIG FURB]

It was always dead.

It should have never even been born, it was ISHs accidental baby.

Dray mind Green is a career bench player. He will never be a starter on a championship caliber team.

Can't wait to see which team signs him to a big deal, only to amnesty him a few years later. Not a big fan of his...

He's already a starter on a team that can still very likely win the title this season. Or are you claiming that 2-1 is some type of insurmountable series lead?

[MiseryCityTexas]

Green and Barnes are having problems because they have no finals experience.