View Full Version : Brave Brits trying to take their country back
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 01:07 AM
I've knocked the Brits on here before and other Europeans for allowing themselves to be overrun by "Muslim Only" zones within their country, but here's a clip of some brave Brits showing some peaceful Patriotism.
You can see who the aggressor is in these clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzdogL2v2mg
Britain First is a serious movement.
http://img.rt.com/files/news/2b/02/80/00/britain-first-founder-quits.si.jpg
www.britainfirst.org
tomtucker
06-11-2015, 07:14 AM
fukking disgusting......all those muslims "dancing" in the streets........great idea to let all that shit into europe......:facepalm
JohnFreeman
06-11-2015, 07:16 AM
The night of the long knives is coming for Muslims. Wait my brothers.
StephHamann
06-11-2015, 07:18 AM
The night of the long knives is coming for Muslims. Wait my brothers.
:lebronamazed:
fiddy
06-11-2015, 07:33 AM
The night of the long knives is coming for Muslims. Wait my brothers.
Thats their only chance to earn my respect, pvssy ass overrated country.
BlakFrankWhite
06-11-2015, 08:02 AM
Lol...so y'all wanting muslims to be murdered and plundered......you retarded SOB's
Muslims be living rent free.....literally
fiddy
06-11-2015, 08:20 AM
Lol...so y'all wanting muslims to be murdered and plundered......you retarded SOB's
Muslims be living rent free.....literally
Quiet Simon
step_back
06-11-2015, 10:19 AM
Just kick out all the religious people in the U.K and we'll thrive. We don't need the middle earth fairy tale make believe followers.
It's not fair to hate Islam. We should hate all religions equally.
Akrazotile
06-11-2015, 11:23 AM
Just kick out all the religious people in the U.K and we'll thrive. We don't need the middle earth fairy tale make believe followers.
It's not fair to hate Islam. We should hate all religions equally.
Should that include people who believe in morality, since there is no tangible evolutionary evidence of it as existing?
Should people who belong to a majority race in a given country and dont want to dominate the food chain and have slaves working for their benefit be kicked out? Because isnt it inexplicably "religious" to want to give up a socioeconomic advantage to competing humans for no reason? I mean its not evolutionary/scientific, right?
What do you think brah?
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 11:38 AM
Lol...so y'all wanting muslims to be murdered and plundered......you retarded SOB's
Muslims be living rent free.....literally
Nonsense. No one seriously wants anyone murdered. What this group is asking for is simple. Assimilation. Assimilation into British culture which stems back a thousand years. Muslims in Europe are segregated and choose to be that way. If the numbers persist, then in the next 50 years, one of these European countries will be predominantly Muslim and it'll be just like one of those countries in the Middle East, that is full with strife and violence and poverty.
TripleA
06-11-2015, 11:43 AM
Your such a racist pos what did muslims do to you take your lunch
money and beat you up. How their different cultures in Islam how bout you say predominately South asian and that would make more sense.
TripleA
06-11-2015, 11:50 AM
The Daily Morning Star
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 11:51 AM
Just kick out all the religious people in the U.K and we'll thrive. We don't need the middle earth fairy tale make believe followers.
It's not fair to hate Islam. We should hate all religions equally.
I think this is a cop-out response to just simply not offend Muslims.
It's the PC response and it just brushes the real problem under the rug.
Britain has been a Christian nation for over a millennia and they have thrived. Nations can keep religions, but the religions that breed extremists need to be eradicated.
The truth of the matter that everyone seems to deny is, that Islam is the only religion that breeds the kind of extremism that we see today. But this PC society (which is really a few) seem to think that if we wash one thing away, we have to wash them all away. Why is that?
TripleA
06-11-2015, 11:56 AM
What do even mean by Christian most people in England are most people in england do not even care about religion you fool.
BlakFrankWhite
06-11-2015, 11:57 AM
Nonsense. No one seriously wants anyone murdered. What this group is asking for is simple. Assimilation. Assimilation into British culture which stems back a thousand years. Muslims in Europe are segregated and choose to be that way. If the numbers persist, then in the next 50 years, one of these European countries will be predominantly Muslim and it'll be just like one of those countries in the Middle East, that is full with strife and violence and poverty.
I was referring to John Freeman boneheaded post about night of the long knives
Even if he meant it in jest....thats just sick and twisted...and a ban should be given tbh
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 11:59 AM
Your such a racist pos what did muslims do to you take your lunch
money and beat you up. How their different cultures in Islam how bout you say predominately South asian and that would make more sense.
First off, Islam is not a race you ignorant schlub. Secondly, your grammar is very poor, so your fake internet anger comes across as doltish and non-sensical.
What are you trying to convey in your last sentence?
TripleA
06-11-2015, 12:00 PM
You do know their are extremist buddhists who are killing muslims in Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Thailand by the hundreds.
TripleA
06-11-2015, 12:03 PM
Did Muslims beat you up as a kid because their living rent free in your head.
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 12:04 PM
You do know their are extremist buddhists who are killing muslims in Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Thailand by the hundreds.
While any murder is reprehensible, these Buddhists or these Christians in Africa are not on the same scale as radical Islam. It would be unfair to say they are on equal footing and that we should then lose our focus on how big of a problem radical Islam is throughout the world. Remember, there have been radical Muslim attacks throughout the world. The same cannot be said about Buddhists or Christians.
I'm sorry, it's just not the same thing. Britain (as is shown in the video) is not going through a Buddhist non-assimilation problem.
TripleA
06-11-2015, 12:06 PM
Dude buddhists are actually beating the shit and killing muslims in south Asia just because their muslims, their also killing and attacking Christians and Churches.
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 12:09 PM
Dude buddhists are actually beating the shit and killing muslims in south Asia just because their muslims, their also killing and attacking Christians and Churches.
I just said, it's bad. It's very bad. If you want, make your own thread condemning it.
This thread is about the overwhelming Muslim aggression problem in Europe.
TripleA
06-11-2015, 12:10 PM
Radical Islam is a problem but instead of just going around and saying **** all muslims we should foster relationships instead of being enemies. People like Britain's First are the reason why young muslims become extremist because they are hated and made to feel like they do not belong. Instead if Britain's First was creating assimilation programs instead of saying **** muslims than relations would be better.
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 12:22 PM
Radical Islam is a problem but instead of just going around and saying **** all muslims we should foster relationships instead of being enemies. People like Britain's First are the reason why young muslims become extremist because they are hated and made to feel like they do not belong. Instead if Britain's First was creating assimilation programs instead of saying **** muslims than relations would be better.
You've got it backwards man. You just do.
No one on here has said "**** Islam". And I'll repeat it over and over and over again till you finally understand it. The video explains that these Muslims in question, do not want to assimilate. They do not want to foster relationships and have been known to attack non-Muslims that walk in their area or in front of their mosques. Go look it up. There are literally "Muslim Only" zones in the UK.
You just don't move into a foreign nation and then expect that nation to cater to your beliefs and your culture. You have to assimilate. Just like the Irish, German, and Asians have assimilated to Western culture.
And it's laughable to think that young Muslims become extremists because of groups like these. Explain the strife between Muslims that kill other Muslims in the Middle East then. It's a violent culture that stems from violent teachings and that's why groups like these exist. They don't want that form of violence and oppression brought to their front door.
TripleA
06-11-2015, 12:26 PM
We can both have are own opinion on this situation and its ok.:cheers:
longtime lurker
06-11-2015, 01:04 PM
You've got it backwards man. You just do.
No one on here has said "**** Islam". And I'll repeat it over and over and over again till you finally understand it. The video explains that these Muslims in question, do not want to assimilate. They do not want to foster relationships and have been known to attack non-Muslims that walk in their area or in front of their mosques. Go look it up. There are literally "Muslim Only" zones in the UK.
You just don't move into a foreign nation and then expect that nation to cater to your beliefs and your culture. You have to assimilate. Just like the Irish, German, and Asians have assimilated to Western culture.
And it's laughable to think that young Muslims become extremists because of groups like these. Explain the strife between Muslims that kill other Muslims in the Middle East then. It's a violent culture that stems from violent teachings and that's why groups like these exist. They don't want that form of violence and oppression brought to their front door.
Holy shit I try to give Americans the benefit of the doubt but when you have complete fvcking idiots like Patrick Chewing representing your country :facepalm :facepalm
The 'no go zones' is a complete myth perpetuated by Fox news that has been debunked.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/12/fox-news-expert-ridiculed-over-birmingham-is-totally-muslim-city-claims
Like how fvcking stupid are you to believe this garbage?
I'm not surprised that people like him would support a hate group.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/06/19/britain-first-the-violent-new-face-of-british-fascism
NumberSix
06-11-2015, 01:24 PM
Holy shit I try to give Americans the benefit of the doubt but when you have complete fvcking idiots like Patrick Chewing representing your country :facepalm :facepalm
The 'no go zones' is a complete myth perpetuated by Fox news that has been debunked.
"No go zones" weren't "debunked". What was debunked was that one idiot on Fox's inaccurate description.
There are no "Muslims only" areas or areas that are off limits to police. I don't know who the hell came up with that nonsense.
A "no go zone" simply means an area that you're better off avoiding if you're not a member of the particular demographic. Not that you're literally banned or something.
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2015, 02:01 PM
A "no go zone" simply means an area that you're better off avoiding if you're not a member of the particular demographic. Not that you're literally banned or something.
Correct. This is what is meant when it's a "Muslims Only" zone. Meaning that there have been unprovoked recorded attacks on non-Muslims.
I wasn't even aware of there being a Fox News report on that. The media sensationalizes it of course.
KobesFinger
06-11-2015, 06:59 PM
Please name a Muslim only area. I take it you're aware Britain First is a far right wing party with xenophobic and racist beliefs? And the media didn't sensationalise the gaffe made by the "terrorism expert" - he called the second biggest city in the country a Muslim only city
KyrieTheFuture
06-12-2015, 01:35 AM
Correct. This is what is meant when it's a "Muslims Only" zone. Meaning that there have been unprovoked recorded attacks on non-Muslims.
I wasn't even aware of there being a Fox News report on that. The media sensationalizes it of course.
Oh shut the **** up we all know you get your news from Fox. What about unprovoked attacks on blacks in white areas? Or unprovoked attacks on whites? By your all of a sudden new definition, we have plenty of X only zones here
NumberSix
06-12-2015, 01:53 AM
Please name a Muslim only area. I take it you're aware Britain First is a far right wing party with xenophobic and racist beliefs? And the media didn't sensationalise the gaffe made by the "terrorism expert" - he called the second biggest city in the country a Muslim only city
I'm by no means an expert on this group, but I'll ask a few questions.
You say they are a "far right wing party". What is that based on? I don't know if that is actually true or not. But, people also say that about the BNP, even though the BNP is explicitly left wing/socialist. My understanding is that "Britain first" is a group that splintered off from the BNP.
Of the little I know about them, them being "xenophobic" is debatable, depending how literally you use the word "xenophobic". I don't know if they're "racist". I haven't seen them say anything racist, but in all honesty I'm not all that familiar with them.
step_back
06-12-2015, 04:31 AM
I think this is a cop-out response to just simply not offend Muslims.
It's the PC response and it just brushes the real problem under the rug.
Britain has been a Christian nation for over a millennia and they have thrived. Nations can keep religions, but the religions that breed extremists need to be eradicated.
The truth of the matter that everyone seems to deny is, that Islam is the only religion that breeds the kind of extremism that we see today. But this PC society (which is really a few) seem to think that if we wash one thing away, we have to wash them all away. Why is that?
PC would be me saying everyone has the right to believe in what they want. I don't believe that. I think to believe in talking snakes in the garden of Eden and prophets riding off into heaven on winged horses is completely retarded and the fact that morons like yourself still believe this makes me despondent that human beings can be so ****ing stupid and gullible in the 21st century. Scientology is brushed off because of how absurd it is but why do other religions get a free pass when they're just as daft?
Like I said. All religions and it's followers can **** off.
masonanddixon
06-12-2015, 06:40 AM
Hope not Hate party is composed of some seriously deluded, disgusting individuals. The earth is in a poor state and likely won't survive past 2050 or so.
Only place left thats livable is Australia but even that is going turn into the USA/Britain within 20 years.
Multiculturalism is a plague upon the earth and it's unfortunately too late to reverse the ill-effects of thirty years of irrational policy.
islam is the essence of fecal matter.
you just want to flush it down the toilet.
Patrick Chewing
06-12-2015, 09:24 AM
Oh shut the **** up we all know you get your news from Fox. What about unprovoked attacks on blacks in white areas? Or unprovoked attacks on whites? By your all of a sudden new definition, we have plenty of X only zones here
Why the hostility? Do your research. There's hundreds of videos out there showing hostility towards Jews, and native Britons in certain predominantly Muslim areas.
These invaders and non-assimilators aren't just going to stop in Europe. They'll take over your town next and so on and so forth. Meanwhile, you're worried about your local police. Laughable.
JEFFERSON MONEY
06-12-2015, 02:34 PM
My ego and consciousness are the essence of fecal matter.
you just want to flush it down the toilet
Fixed for ya.
imdaman99
06-12-2015, 03:28 PM
My ego and consciousness are the essence of fecal matter.
you just want to flush it down the toilet
Fixed it for ya :cheers:
*Edit, looks like I got beat to the punch. JMoney 2 fast 2 furious :rockon:
JEFFERSON MONEY
06-13-2015, 06:19 PM
Fixed it for ya :cheers:
*Edit, looks like I got beat to the punch. JMoney 2 fast 2 furious :rockon:
Uncanny right?
Purification of the Heart by Sheikh Hamza Yusuf would do that guy wonders.
ThePhantomCreep
06-13-2015, 07:03 PM
While any murder is reprehensible, these Buddhists or these Christians in Africa are not on the same scale as radical Islam. It would be unfair to say they are on equal footing and that we should then lose our focus on how big of a problem radical Islam is throughout the world. Remember, there have been radical Muslim attacks throughout the world. The same cannot be said about Buddhists or Christians.
I'm sorry, it's just t not the same thing. Britain (as is shown in the video) is not going through a Buddhist non-assimilation problem.
Lol @ this Kochbot trying to rank the loathsomeness of each religion. They're all shit.
Akrazotile
06-13-2015, 07:14 PM
PC would be me saying everyone has the right to believe in what they want. I don't believe that. I think to believe in talking snakes in the garden of Eden and prophets riding off into heaven on winged horses is completely retarded and the fact that morons like yourself still believe this makes me despondent that human beings can be so ****ing stupid and gullible in the 21st century. Scientology is brushed off because of how absurd it is but why do other religions get a free pass when they're just as daft?
Like I said. All religions and it's followers can **** off.
You ducked my question.
Akrazotile
06-13-2015, 07:16 PM
Lol @ this Kochbot trying to rank the loathsomeness of each religion. They're all shit.
From where do you obtain your sense of morality then?
From a biological standpiont doesn't it make sense to hog all the resources only for your community and the one your children will be a part of?
Isn't the liberal idea of sharing with strangers and not taking as much as you can some kind of weird religious ideal? Bc I don't know what basis it has in evolutionary theory. :confusedshrug:
step_back
06-13-2015, 07:27 PM
You ducked my question.
It's complete waste of time engaging with people like you and Patrick Chewing, however.
Morality comes from empathy (Something you don't have, which is why you're a shit actor). The fact that you seem to think people need to believe in a God otherwise we'd all be out raping and killing people just proves how dumb you are.
ThePhantomCreep
06-13-2015, 07:37 PM
From where do you obtain your sense of morality then?
From a biological standpiont doesn't it make sense to hog all the resources only for your community and the one your children will be a part of?
Isn't the liberal idea of sharing with strangers and not taking as much as you can some kind of weird religious ideal? Bc I don't know what basis it has in evolutionary theory. :confusedshrug:Yup, no cooperation in this society. Move along now.
http://josefshomperlenblog.org/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/0a777__77646868_3patrol.jpg
Another example, the hyena is the most abundant and successful predator in Africa BECAUSE they take care of their own. It's the solitary predators that are less abundant and less successful in catching prey. Hyenas are some of the wildest, most vicious animals around, hardwired by eons of evolutionary instinct, and even they know that a closed fist is stronger than 5 fingers spread apart.
Uncanny right?
Purification of the Heart by Sheikh Hamza Yusuf would do that guy wonders.
I wipe my dog's ass with the pages of your sacred koran.
you must be stupider than i ever thought if you think i give two shits about your religion or your feelings.
Akrazotile
06-13-2015, 07:58 PM
Yup, no cooperation in this society. Move along now.
http://josefshomperlenblog.org/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/0a777__77646868_3patrol.jpg
Another example, the hyena is the most abundant and successful predator in Africa BECAUSE they take care of their own. It's the solitary predators that are less abundant and less successful in catching prey. Hyenas are some of the wildest, most vicious animals around, hardwired by eons of evolutionary instinct, and even they know that a closed fist is stronger than 5 fingers spread apart.
Yeah, of course animal herds/packs/flocks take care of their own.
How do they usually treat competing herds/packs/flocks of the same species, especially weaker ones, when they come across them while hunting food or establishing territory?
Look up some videos. It's not pretty :(
Bosnian Sajo
06-13-2015, 08:00 PM
Yeah, of course animal herds/packs/flocks take care of their own.
How do they usually treat competing herds/packs/flocks of the same species, especially weaker ones, when they come across them while hunting food or establishing territory?
Look up some videos. It's not pretty :(
Sounds like a plot twist to this thread...post some links.
Akrazotile
06-13-2015, 08:01 PM
It's complete waste of time engaging with people like you and Patrick Chewing, however.
Morality comes from empathy (Something you don't have, which is why you're a shit actor). The fact that you seem to think people need to believe in a God otherwise we'd all be out raping and killing people just proves how dumb you are.
Your brain is too small. You don't understand what I'm saying.
You believe in helping people of other tribes/groups/races etc. because it makes you feel like you have a purpose, like you're doing right, etc. and that's the only reason you do it. There's no actual biological/evolutionary advantage to it. It's a personal life coping mechanism.
Everyone has their own ideals that reassure them. For some it's God, for others it's not. You aren't smarter than someone because you aren't religious. You seem desperate to convince others that's the case, but it simply isn't. That's what I'm telling you.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2015, 08:27 PM
Yup, no cooperation in this society. Move along now.
http://josefshomperlenblog.org/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/0a777__77646868_3patrol.jpg
Another example, the hyena is the most abundant and successful predator in Africa BECAUSE they take care of their own. It's the solitary predators that are less abundant and less successful in catching prey. Hyenas are some of the wildest, most vicious animals around, hardwired by eons of evolutionary instinct, and even they know that a closed fist is stronger than 5 fingers spread apart.
We get our morals from monkeys?? Is that what you're saying?
http://www.allmystery.de/i/t0eed2a_monkey-drinks-own-pee-o.gif
:biggums:
ThePhantomCreep
06-13-2015, 08:42 PM
Yeah, of course animal herds/packs/flocks take care of their own.
How do they usually treat competing herds/packs/flocks of the same species, especially weaker ones, when they come across them while hunting food or establishing territory?
Look up some videos. It's not pretty :(
They treat them the way Christian conservatives treat everyone who isn't like them? These religious nuts are some of the most hateful "me first" people on the planet.
Point is, religion does not have the market cornered on morality, and many animals display tendencies that we count among our most noble: They cooperate; they help one another; they share resources; they love their offspring. They don't even need an understanding of right and wrong (much less baby Jesus) to exhibit these "noble" traits.
Akrazotile
06-13-2015, 08:47 PM
They treat them the way Christian conservatives treat everyone who isn't like them? There religious nuts are some of the most hateful "me first" people on the planet.
.
Check out some of the millionaire limousine liberal atheists in the stands during the Warriors game tomorrow and then think about the children around the world dying from dehydration, disease, and slavery. Ask yourself who really is "me first."
Hey btw, how many hours have you tallied volunteering in the third world?
Oh right. Youre not religious, so you want them to be the bad guy so you can be the good guy.
You simply have your own kind of religion called liberalism. Trust me tho, it's no better than any other.
KiiiiNG
06-13-2015, 08:49 PM
Your brain is too small. You don't understand what I'm saying.
You believe in helping people of other tribes/groups/races etc. because it makes you feel like you have a purpose, like you're doing right, etc. and that's the only reason you do it. There's no actual biological/evolutionary advantage to it. It's a personal life coping mechanism.
Everyone has their own ideals that reassure them. For some it's God, for others it's not. You aren't smarter than someone because you aren't religious. You seem desperate to convince others that's the case, but it simply isn't. That's what I'm telling you.
ether.
ThePhantomCreep
06-13-2015, 09:19 PM
Check out some of the millionaire limousine liberal atheists in the stands during the Warriors game tomorrow and then think about the children around the world dying from dehydration, disease, and slavery. Ask yourself who really is "me first."
Hey btw, how many hours have you tallied volunteering in the third world?
Oh right. Youre not religious, so you want them to be the bad guy so you can be the good guy.
You simply have your own kind of religion called liberalism. Trust me tho, it's no better than any other. Where did I say all atheists and liberals are good people? They're generally less hateful than religious conservatives (still fighting gay marriage in 2015 :facepalm), but there are bad apples in every batch.
The point is, Religion isn't bad, it's obsolete. You don't need it to instill morality in masses (never really did) and it makes no logical sense to worship deities that don't exist. Man-made creations. That's stupid.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2015, 09:24 PM
Where did I say all atheists and liberals were good people? They're generally less hateful than religious conservatives (still fighting gay marriage in 2015 :facepalm), but there are bad apples in ever batch.
I will bet you my life savings that it's the other way around. Liberals are vindictive people. Atheists go out of their way to tell you you're wrong about God. They sue government buildings because they mention God.
And you do know there is a difference between not believing in gay marriage and actually hating a person because he or she is gay correct?
You Liberals have gotten away with just saying, "Well, they don't support gay marriage because they hate gay people" for long enough. Be gay all you want. Get butt ****ed by a thousand men in a single sitting. Your life, your choices. But where we disagree is in the definition of marriage. That does not = hate.
JEFFERSON MONEY
06-13-2015, 10:28 PM
I wipe my dog's ass with the pages of your sacred koran.
you must be stupider than i ever thought if you think i give two shits about your religion or your feelings.
Lol.
Take some time off and reevaluate yourself. You were recommended a book to help you become a less hateful person. You reacted by attacking the person's intelligence, being vulgar to try to get a rise out of them, attacking their faith, and saying you don't care to top things off. And feelings? lol.
Lies, venom, irrelevant, vitriol, and teenage angst. Symptoms of a sick hateful heart. Cure it. My offer stands.
Dresta
06-16-2015, 10:33 AM
Where did I say all atheists and liberals are good people? They're generally less hateful than religious conservatives (still fighting gay marriage in 2015 :facepalm), but there are bad apples in every batch.
The point is, Religion isn't bad, it's obsolete. You don't need it to instill morality in masses (never really did) and it makes no logical sense to worship deities that don't exist. Man-made creations. That's stupid.
And people like you who need to impose their beliefs (that's right: your support of gay marriage is completely arbitrary, and an extreme waste of time and energy for a mistaken civil rights 'cause,' completely baseless, and something you, and people like you, only desperately want to happen because they hate religious conservatives, and like the idea of forcing them to do things that run counter to their beliefs and hurt their sensibilities.
Religion is obsolete :roll: - do you truly have that little understanding of human affairs? How can you be unaware that our entire legal system is based on Christian morality, the idea of all men being equal before God, and accountable for their own sins (i.e. the idea of free-will, on which our entire legal edifice rests). If you didn't have a Christian legal system then things like motive would be far less important, and all that would matter is whether the actions of an individual forward the prospects of the group, or threaten them. Threats to societal harmony are 'liquidated,' regardless of their motivations, as in a purely consequentialist, cause-and-effect world, the human individual is of no importance, and all that matters is communal achievement (a kind of substitute for religion, no less).
So-called 'scientific' legal systems almost always end up being barbaric, and history is littered with the corpses of people who were considered human refuse by them, simply because they thought differently to those wielding power and the 'community.' It is a mentality i see in people of your ilk: the petty and mediocre and vindictive. To think, you say you don't need religion to instill morality into the masses, while your entire moral outlook is unmistakably Christian, and the beliefs you hold so precious would be completely different if Christianity were not in your ancestry and your heritage.
I'm not at all religious, and don't give that much of a shit either way (i'm reconciled to human folly and stupidity), but people like you, you're so desperate to throw things away, to stick it to the past (as this will redeem all its evils), that you know not what you do (ha), or what you're throwing away. You can't have Western secularism without Christianity; the former grew out of the latter, and if you remove the values that allowed this type of society to flourish, then over the generations, it will start to look unrecognisable, and not in a good way. People used to understand these things very well, but because of ever-declining academic standards, and the state using the education system as a hammer on the minds of the young, 90% of the population live in complete ignorance of their intellectual and cultural history, a complete unawareness of what has made you what you are, and to care about the rather silly things you beat the drum about.
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