why isn't GS double-teaming LeBron?

[jzek]

Per ESPN stats:

279 offensive touches but only double-teamed 15x.

What gives? :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

Per ESPN stats:

279 offensive touches but only double-teamed 15x.

What gives? :confusedshrug:
He's wrecking teams with his passing.

Watch the games... :facepalm It's the Finals FFS.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

They dont want to get killed from 3 when Lebron kicks it out to spotup shooters
that is an insane stat tho i knew Lebron was seeing alot of single coverage but only doubled on 5% of his touches??? Wow hard to believe hes still so inefficient 40%FG and below 50%TS

something warriors havent done is fullcourt press or just go at Lebron when he brings the ball up to run plays. they just lettin this nikka prance up the lane a groom on his wedding day. Lebron is a mediocre dribbler too, hes bound to turn it over on offense fouls or lose handle or something. If u press him enough he'll pass it out and someone else on the cavs have to make a play plus Iggy or someone can deny him harder and that will all eat more shotclock and give the Cavs a worse inefficient offense

the warriors CAN do it and SHOULD. Its a joke how the best D is just letting a player dribble it up and get into sets anytime he wants to his spots with no worry in the world

[sd3035]

why double team a guy who shoots 40% ?

Their defensive strategy is fine, they need to start executing on offense

[MMM]

why double team a guy who shoots 40% ?

Their defensive strategy is fine, they need to start executing on offense

i disagree they should be doing more to get the ball out of his hands earlier in the clock prior to his shooters being set

[ninephive]

If that happens, there is pretty much no way Lebron doesn't average a triple double for the Finals. But I agree that it's the GS offense that's the problem.

[Dresta]

He's scoring at way below average league efficiency, so why the hell would you double the man and give up a bunch of open 3s?

[Haymaker]

something warriors havent done is fullcourt press or just go at Lebron when he brings the ball up to run plays. they just lettin this nikka prance up the lane a groom on his wedding day.

This is bothersome. You can't give Lebron time to think. You want to press him as soon as he crosses the midcourt line. Make him overuse his legs.

[jzek]

Watch the games... :facepalm It's the Finals FFS.

Can't. We're raiding in WoW at night :(

[Leftimage]

Per ESPN stats:

279 offensive touches but only double-teamed 15x.

What gives? :confusedshrug:

Apart from TT, every cav seeing action right now is excellent at nailing open jumpshots, and Moz is a great finisher around the rim. If Lebron is double-teamed, he WILL find them.

Delly, JR, Shump, Jones are all proficient from 3... pick your poison.

Lebron has even been taunting them into double-teaming him (alll the 'they let me get 40 again' talk). The reason is he KNOWS it will get his guys rolling and he knows the dubs original game plan was to avoid exactly that.

[ClipperRevival]

I don't care how efficient his teammates are, you have to mix it up and show different looks. The last thing you want to be in any sport is predictable. GS isn't even showing different looks. That's a no-no and that's on Kerr. You have to make LeBron think and not just let him operate on iso and slow down the pace to a crawl. I'm not saying double a lot but you can't be predictable.

[HurricaneKid]

I don't care how efficient his teammates are, you have to mix it up and show different looks. The last thing you want to be in any sport is predictable. GS isn't even showing different looks. That's a no-no and that's on Kerr. You have to make LeBron think and not just let him operate on iso and slow down the pace to a crawl. I'm not saying double a lot but you can't be predictable.

They are actually giving plenty of different looks. They are all just based on providing help on drives, not straight doubles.

They are daring him to shoot and he is turning them down and going to the cup instead. Golden State has front side help waiting and they have managed to get him to miss a lot of shots at the hoop. But that front side help also means Golden State is pulling TTs man away from him and giving him a lane to the backside.

[konex]

They are afraid of the shooters. However, it's one thing not to double, it's another to let a guy size up his man and drive with no help over and over again

[Fallen Angel]

Why doesn't Golden State dare LeBron to shoot like San Antonio does?

If he posts up force him baseline, that severely limits passing angles and makes LeBron the scorer. Then it's Andrew Bogut's responsibility to master the vertical rule.

[ClipperRevival]

They are actually giving plenty of different looks. They are all just based on providing help on drives, not straight doubles.

They are daring him to shoot and he is turning them down and going to the cup instead. Golden State has front side help waiting and they have managed to get him to miss a lot of shots at the hoop. But that front side help also means Golden State is pulling TTs man away from him and giving him a lane to the backside.

I don't see it. You either commit or you don't. GS has seldom committed to the double. And the way Clev is setting up their offense, the guy Curry is guarding is staying on the strongside so that if the help does come, it will be Curry.

The point is to get the ball out of his hands and/or and make Bron think. The biggest issue is when Bron gets the ball within 10 feet and just backs his man down. In those situations, you have to throw the double at him. They are letting him operate uninterrupted within a few feet from the basket.

[El Gato Negro]

I hope they do.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Why doesn't Golden State dare LeBron to shoot like San Antonio does?

If he posts up force him baseline, that severely limits passing angles and makes LeBron the scorer. Then it's Andrew Bogut's responsibility to master the vertical rule.

Because all their perimeter defenders aside from Iggy are a bunch of p.ussies

[MP.Trey]

Because they saw what happened to the Hawks when they doubled LeBron...

[hitmanyr2k]

I thought with Kerr being a disciple of Popovich that he would mimic Pop's defensive scheme on Lebron but for some reason continues to not adjust. Lebron can hardly throw the ball in the ocean right now from the perimeter (much like the '11, '12 and '13 Finals) but rather than sag off him, live with him shooting outside jumpers, and packing the paint so he's hesitant to drive or post up the Warriors are giving Lebron's teammates a ton of respect by sticking with them and giving Lebron all the room he could possibly want to operate.

[ClipperRevival]

I thought with Kerr being a disciple of Popovich that he would mimic Pop's defensive scheme on Lebron but for some reason continues to not adjust. Lebron can hardly throw the ball in the ocean right now from the perimeter (much like the '11, '12 and '13 Finals) but rather than sag off him, live with him shooting outside jumpers, and packing the paint so he's hesitant to drive or post up the Warriors are giving Lebron's teammates a ton of respect by sticking with them and giving Lebron all the room he could possibly want to operate.

I know. It's one thing to sag off of Bron in the perimeter but to let him operate uninterrupted down the post? That's just stupidity.

[kamil]

They dont want to get killed from 3 when Lebron kicks it out to spotup shooters
that is an insane stat tho i knew Lebron was seeing alot of single coverage but only doubled on 5% of his touches??? Wow hard to believe hes still so inefficient 40%FG and below 50%TS


He's the most overrated 'GOAT' of all time.

[ClipperRevival]

I mean is Kerr THAT afraid of JR, Shumpert, and Dell? I understand being afraid of James Jones cause that guy is a deadly shooter but the other guys are streaky. JR sometimes plays better when he takes off balanced, contested 3s. He seems to struggle more when he's taking shots in rhythm for some reason.

Given how the series has turned out so far, I would take it out of Bron's hands and make someone else beat me. Who does Clev really have on offense that can hurt them? Worst case scenario, a couple of guys get hot. But you aren't letting Bron operate uninterrupted in the post and getting easy baskets time and time again.

[BlazerRed]

Can't. We're raiding in WoW at night :(
My 15 year old self understands this. Gotta get that DKP bro :lol

[Dbrog]

Defense is not the problem for the Warriors. Holding the Cavs to around 95 ppg is fine since GS should be scoring 110 ppg...but they aren't. GS offense is in a horrible state of affairs right now. Basically Klay is the only big scorer who is kind of consistent. Only thing Warriors could do better at defense on is hitting the glass (which they will now that Lee is free). Even if this goes to 3-1, don't count GS out. They have SIGNIFICANTLY more talent. Their defense on Bron is fine considering his usage rate.

[bond10]

Defense is not the problem for the Warriors. Holding the Cavs to around 95 ppg is fine since GS should be scoring 110 ppg...but they aren't. GS offense is in a horrible state of affairs right now. Basically Klay is the only big scorer who is kind of consistent. Only thing Warriors could do better at defense on is hitting the glass (which they will now that Lee is free). Even if this goes to 3-1, don't count GS out. They have SIGNIFICANTLY more talent. Their defense on Bron is fine considering his usage rate.

This. Their problem is their offense...

[ShackEelOKneel]

They need to double LeBron only when he is backing to the basket, but make sure one man is always on JR and a defensive big is staying by the basket.

[jayfan]

Because their defense isn't the reason they're losing this series.





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[RoundMoundOfReb]

Because if you want to trap him - you HAVE to do it with a big, and other than Bogut GS doesn't have a traditional big. Also open 3s = not good.

[KungFuJoe]

Defense isn't the problem. Lebron is shooting 40 percent. They will live with that.

Their offense is the problem. It's disappeared. No ball movement they've become a team of chuckers.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I don't know. 40% from the field on 35 shots a game sounds like ideal defense to me. And only a 2:1 ratio (~4 turnovers a game).

Maybe if they could make a shot in quarters 1-3 and stop trying to play catch up from 15 down every game...

[jlip]

i disagree they should be doing more to get the ball out of his hands earlier in the clock prior to his shooters being set

This

That's exactly what the Bulls were doing to Magic in the '91 Finals. They made it difficult for him to set up the offense. Watching that series live was the first time I had ever seen a team double team a player at half court.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Because their defense isn't the reason they're losing this series.





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Good point.

[ihatetimthomas]

I would full court press and make other guys bring up the ball and initiate the offense. He is shooting poorly but he is initiating the offense and getting the shooters good looks. You need the ball out of his hands early. Everyone who thinks they should keep in his hands and sag off him bc of the role playing shooters is why they are losing. They are at their best when he has the ball in his hands, regardless of his shooting %. He is the engine of that offense, why not make Delly initiate the offense?

[ClipperRevival]

Finally we saw the hard doubles all game long. This is how GS should defend Bron. Just get it out of his hands.

The starting lineup was a surprise though. He obviously wanted to dictate the pace of the game. Kerr manned up and adjusted and it worked. Kudos to him. :cheers:

[Xiengqichess]

When I see double teamed, I score 20 or less.

[DMV2]

It worked. :applause:

[Ca$H]

Finally we saw the hard doubles all game long. This is how GS should defend Bron. Just get it out of his hands.

The starting lineup was a surprise though. He obviously wanted to dictate the pace of the game. Kerr manned up and adjusted and it worked. Kudos to him. :cheers:

Kerr should have adjusted earlier in the series.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Kerr should have adjusted earlier in the series.

Better late than never.

:confusedshrug: