MJ scored 0 points in 4th quarter of Finals too

[3ball]

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When he sat out the 4th quarter


http://www.gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/2fc9ec64293d36f16e19132667a7b8aa.gif


:djparty

[navy]

1-9

[scandisk_]

Why isn't this guy permabanned already? :mad:

jebus

[KembaWalker]

Nah ay I'mma give you some credit, I laughed

[SouBeachTalents]

He also scored 0 career points in the 4th quarter of the Finals without Pippen & Phil

[imdaman99]

Jordan also won 0 rings and 0 Finals wins without Phil or Scottie. At least Lebron has 2 Finals wins without Wade.

[KiiiiNG]

fathers day coming up

lebron gonna be with the homie lambo while jordan lives with guilt about killing his father :(

lebron in the prime of his life, on the cusp of the most dominant ring in nba history. jordan otoh... is on the verge of death, miserable hes unable to compete anymore. miserable his son had a dick scandal and proved the rumors about "little mj" true. :(

damn it!

[Spurs m8]

fathers day coming up

lebron gonna be with the homie lambo while jordan lives with guilt about killing his father :(

lebron in the prime of his life, on the cusp of the most dominant ring in nba history. jordan otoh... is on the verge of death, miserable hes unable to compete anymore. miserable his son had a dick scandal and proved the rumors about "little mj" true. :(

damn it!

Rent free you little bitch

[Sarcastic]

He also scored 0 career points in the 4th quarter of the Finals without Pippen & Phil


Wade - 3 rings
Lebron - 2 rings

[sportjames23]

3ball got bitches here SHOOK. :oldlol:

[keep-itreal]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

fathers day coming up

lebron gonna be with the homie lambo while jordan lives with guilt about killing his father :(

lebron in the prime of his life, on the cusp of the most dominant ring in nba history. jordan otoh... is on the verge of death, miserable hes unable to compete anymore. miserable his son had a dick scandal and proved the rumors about "little mj" true. :(

damn it!

how mad on a scale of 1 to 10 are you?

[SouBeachTalents]

Wade - 3 rings
Lebron - 2 rings

Wade- 3 rings
Knicks franchise- 2 rings

[KembaWalker]

Jordan also won 0 rings and 0 Finals wins without Phil or Scottie. At least Lebron has 2 Finals wins without Wade.

Nah you wrong fam, Wade was doing the half-time shows in those two wins :roll:

Wade's gotta be somewhere in the arena for LeBron to actually win a finals game

[SouBeachTalents]

Nah you wrong fam, Wade was doing the half-time shows in those two wins :roll:

Wade's gotta be somewhere in the arena for LeBron to actually win a finals game

:lol That's true

[Sarcastic]

Wade- 3 rings
Knicks franchise- 2 rings


https://twitter.com/BruceBlitz/status/609207220803366912


After 4 games...
Jordan 1993 Finals: 172 points
LeBron 2015 Finals: 143 points
Jordan: 50.0% shooting
LeBron: 38.8% shooting
#CompareNow

[imnew09]

fathers day coming up

lebron gonna be with the homie lambo while jordan lives with guilt about killing his father :(

lebron in the prime of his life, on the cusp of the most dominant ring in nba history. jordan otoh... is on the verge of death, miserable hes unable to compete anymore. miserable his son had a dick scandal and proved the rumors about "little mj" true. :(

damn it!


You Mean WEST?

[LAZERUSS]

In MJ's '93 run, he faced a Knicks team that was the euivalent of this year's Warriors defensively.

32.2 ppg on a .400 FG% (with 6 rpg and 7 apg.)

And he did so with far more help. In fact, his teammates collectively outshot Mj by a staggering margin.

Kind of puts Lebron's '15 Finals into a better perspective doesn't it?

35.8 ppg, on a .388 FG%, to go along with 12.0 rpg, and 8.3 apg.

[3ball]

In MJ's '93 run, he faced a Knicks team that was the euivalent of this year's Warriors defensively.

32.2 ppg on a .400 FG% (with 6 rpg and 7 apg.)

And he did so with far more help. In fact, his teammates collectively outshot Mj by a staggering margin.

Kind of puts Lebron's '15 Finals into a better perspective doesn't it?

35.8 ppg, on a .388 FG%, to go along with 12.0 rpg, and 8.3 apg.
Exactly...

This shows far superior the 90's Knicks were to this Warrior team - a far superior supporting cast BARELY beat the Knicks...

Whereas Lebron's far worse supporting cast was beating this Warrior team..

:confusedshrug:

Try again.

[Da_Realist]

In MJ's '93 run, he faced a Knicks team that was the euivalent of this year's Warriors defensively.

Are you out of your mind?

[LAZERUSS]

Are you out of your mind?

The numbers do not lie my friend.

First in defensive rating for both.

And, if you factor in GS's offensive rating, this is a FAR greater team that what MJ faced in the '93 Knicks.

And yet, Lebron is carrying a band of misfits to a series draw, against an all-time great team.

[sportjames23]

Are you out of your mind?


He must be.

[3ball]

Warriors have a lower defensive rating than the 90's Knicks


That means nothing, but I'll indulge you.

The 1998 Utah Jazz had a 100.3 playoff defensive rating - this is better than anything Lebron ever faced in the Finals, including this year's Warriors.





Warriors are an all-time great team


What a joke.. In the 1993 Finals between Bulls and Suns, both teams averaged EXACTLY 106.7 PPG... and both teams had EXACTLY a 113.0 ORtg.

So the series was dead even..

So how would Lebron's weaker supporting cast do against those Suns?.. Well, here's what we know: MJ's 41/9/6 and superior supporting cast only got the Bulls even.

Obviously, Lebron's weaker supporting cast would do worse against these Suns, even if Lebron managed to put up the same stats as MJ.

However, Lebron's weaker supporting cast has been BEATING the Warriors, proving the Warriors < Suns and most teams MJ faced (including the Knicks, who ALSO played MJ's superior supporting cast and stats to a standstill).
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[KungFuJoe]

The numbers do not lie my friend.

First in defensive rating for both.

And, if you factor in GS's offensive rating, this is a FAR greater team that what MJ faced in the '93 Knicks.

And yet, Lebron is carrying a band of misfits to a series draw, against an all-time great team.

All time great team? Man I know you're trolling but at some point you just gotta stop.

[SpecialQue]

Why don't you just shut your fvcking hole about Jordan? He's not gonna let you suck his dick, no matter how often you keep practicing.

[hawke812]

how could he score points if he sat out:confusedshrug:

[ProfessorMurder]

In MJ's '93 run, he faced a Knicks team that was the euivalent of this year's Warriors defensively.

32.2 ppg on a .400 FG% (with 6 rpg and 7 apg.)

And he did so with far more help. In fact, his teammates collectively outshot Mj by a staggering margin.

Kind of puts Lebron's '15 Finals into a better perspective doesn't it?

35.8 ppg, on a .388 FG%, to go along with 12.0 rpg, and 8.3 apg.
That Knicks team was a juggernaut on defense and could actually play physical ball. C'mon.

[SugarHill]

I love elaine

[sfballa13]

Comparing the Warriors to the 93' Knicks and the Suns with Barkley is laughable

The Utah Jazz team that MJ faced in two Finals would sweep the Warriors, maybe 4-1 if they shit the bed one game

Put Lebron on the Bulls, even with Pippen and Rodman, he would crumble under the pressure.

This is the first Finals and really the first series Lebron has stepped up and acted like a man for once. Had he played like this his other 5 Finals appearances then maybe you could make a case for him being as good as Jordan

Is the 2015 Finals performance by Lebron unbelievable and up to par with MJ? Yes. But the fact that the Warriors are a soft fragile team and those 90s teams were full of top 20 of all time NBA legends, it evens out to have Pippen and Rodman on your team.

[jzek]

Why isn't this guy permabanned already? :mad:

jebus

Thought that was pretty funny :oldlol:

[kamil]

fathers day coming up

lebron gonna be with the homie lambo while jordan lives with guilt about killing his father :(

lebron in the prime of his life, on the cusp of the most dominant ring in nba history. jordan otoh... is on the verge of death, miserable hes unable to compete anymore. miserable his son had a dick scandal and proved the rumors about "little mj" true. :(

damn it!

You must think you're pretty cool, huh?

[FKAri]

Why don't you just shut your fvcking hole about Jordan? He's not gonna let you suck his dick, no matter how often you keep practicing.

If he makes a bet with MJ Im sure he could even get MJ to suck his d1ck.

[tmacattack33]

Scoring isn't even Lebron's best trait on offense.

So just the fact that MJ fans have to dig things up like this is almost a compliment to Lebron.

[3ball]

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In the 80's, defenders didn't have to guard weakside 3-pointers, so they didn't have to be on the weakside - all defenders remained on the strongside and/or in the paint, and therefore closest to help on strongside action:


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Otoh, in today's game, defenders must guard weakside 3-pointers.. To defend weakside 3-pointers, defenders must position themselves behind the far side of the paint on the weakside, therefore leaving the paint wide open while being furthest away to help on strongside action:


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MJ never faced a paint that was wide open with no defenders.. EVER.. This is a fact.

[3ball]

Scoring isn't even Lebron's best trait on offense.


Too bad, because scoring is what allowed him to get a 2-1 lead and sniff some MJ comparisons.

But MJ's on another level because he mastered the "advanced" version of basketball - think of it like a video game where MJ beat the highest level of the game (see previous post for visual explanation):


Beginner Level.................................. Advanced Level (what MJ beat)

open paints......................................... packed paints
no hand-checking................................. hand-checking
hand-off defense.................................. hands-on defense
flagrant fouls....................................... no flagrant fouls
no physicality...................................... physicality
no paint-camping................................. legal paint-camping
less strongside defenders...................... more strongside defenders
(due to spacing/weakside spacing)......... (due to lack of spacing)

[tmacattack33]

Too bad, because scoring is what allowed him to get a 2-1 lead and sniff some MJ comparisons.

But MJ's on another level because he mastered the "advanced" version of basketball - think of it like a video game where MJ beat the highest level of the game (see previous post for visual explanation):


Beginner Level.................................. Advanced Level (what MJ beat)

open paints......................................... packed paints
no hand-checking................................. hand-checking
hand-off defense.................................. hands-on defense
flagrant fouls....................................... no flagrant fouls
no physicality...................................... physicality
no paint-camping................................. legal paint-camping
less strongside defenders...................... more strongside defenders
(due to spacing/weakside spacing)......... (due to lack of spacing)

:oldlol:

F all of that sh*t. Lebron is not the only one in the league today who gets to play by these rules.

Yet, he is the most dominant by far.


And today's talent pool is larger than it was in 1990.

MJ was the best in 1990 out of a talent pool of x.

Lebron is the best in 2010 of a talent pool of probably 1.25x or something...due to increased popularity of the game (especially in foreign countries).




U mad?




Oh, and no, Lebron does not have this Cleveland team tied 2-2 due to just his scoring. His playmaking has been jus as imporant.