NAACP leader and Africana studies professor lied she was black

[HitandRun Reggie]

Two things. Her parents sold her out bad. Why? And that African Americans have a much different interpretation of "black" than the rest of the world. If she went to Africa and said she was black they'd instantly know she was lying and put her in an insane asylum.

But I'm black because "we are all from Africa". :lol

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/p/7/005/041/025/2b80592.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2255741.1434085601!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_307/naacp12n-4-web.jpg


http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/naacp-leader-rachel-dolezal-lied-black-parents-article-1.2255743


Dolezal’s parents, who are both white, provided a birth certificate and childhood pictures of their daughter to the Coeur d’Alene Press to back up their claims she has been grossly misrepresenting herself.

“It is very disturbing that she has become so dishonest,” Dolezal’s mother, Ruthanne Dolezal, told the Idaho newspaper.

Her parents also alleged that the 37-year-old spun a much wider web of warped lies about her background. A black man who Dolezal has publicly claimed to be her son is in fact her adopted brother, they said — a fact Dolezal confirmed to the paper.

A KXLY reporter bluntly asked her, “Are you African-American?”


After a stunned pause, she replied: "“I don’t understand the question."

We're all from the African continent," she added :oldlol:

#whitesstealingblackjobs

[KevinNYC]

Yeah, this story is bonkers.

[NumberSix]

How is this any different than Bruce Jenner saying he's a woman?

[Myth]

[Akrazotile]

How is this any different than Bruce Jenner saying he's a woman?

Bingo.

People - asians espcecially - should start putting african amrican on college and job apps and dare someone to tell them they are not the person they identify as.

[DCL]

WTF nonsense

[ShackEelOKneel]

How is this any different than Bruce Jenner saying he's a woman?
:hammerhead:

[HitandRun Reggie]

How is this any different than Bruce Jenner saying he's a woman?

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/crayolaskiies/yada%20gifs/kirkponderface.gif


It would have to run a women's league chapter and teach feminist studies I guess, without anyone knowing it was a man.

[DeuceWallaces]

Should have expected the two biggest knuckleheads to make the dumbest analogy possible.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Should have expected the two biggest knuckleheads to make the dumbest analogy possible.

Hey Deuce she kinda looks like you....


Hmmmmmm..

[Akrazotile]

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/crayolaskiies/yada%20gifs/kirkponderface.gif


It would have to run a women's league chapter and teach feminist studies I guess, without anyone knowing it was a man.


What does it matter what her race is to do those things?

[Akrazotile]

Should have expected the two biggest knuckleheads to make the dumbest analogy possible.



You have no opinions of your own.

Youre ugly, awkward, insecure, intellectual beta who tries to show everyone how PC and dogmatically 'progressive' he can be as a ways to get approval and fit in.

Ultimate beta. Shut your ****ing mouth loser.

[Ca$H]

You have no opinions of your own.

Youre ugly, awkward, insecure, intellectual beta who tries to show everyone how PC and dogmatically 'progressive' he can be as a ways to get approval and fit in.

Ultimate beta. Shut your ****ing mouth loser.

:applause:

[ShackEelOKneel]

I'm not expert but if a person can decide to be a different sex / gender all of the sudden, why can't they become a different race as well? She could've been a black woman trapped inside of a white woman's body.

Hypothetically if that was the case, given her position she should have disclosed that and not been so deceptive. If they want to elect her to her position after that, then there is no problem here.

[NumberSix]

Should have expected the two biggest knuckleheads to make the dumbest analogy possible.
She's obviously legit trans-racial. Don't be such a trans-racist bigot.

[Akrazotile]

She's obviously legit trans-racial. Don't be such a trans-racist bigot.


Lets wait and see what jon stewart and richard maddow have to say and where the general liberal consensus comes out on this.

If they accept it, deuce will.

[DCL]

She's obviously legit trans-racial. Don't be such a trans-racist bigot.

if you're against this shit, they will make up a word for it: trans-racial-phobia

[NumberSix]

I see your point but what if she just chose to become a black woman now? Like if she was "Sally" before but then became "Jazmin"?
Isn't jasmine a Persian name?

[Akrazotile]

if you're against this shit, they will make up a word for it: trans-racial-phobia


Oh shit. Deucephalluses might get labeled a bigot. He prolly about to pass out from anxiety. Unconditional beta tolerance is his badge of coolness! What will he do now? Hes got absolutely zero identity without it.

[ShackEelOKneel]

I see your point but what if she just chose to become a black woman now? Like if she was "Sally" before but then became "Jazmin"?

You mean if they elected a white woman intentionally, and then she came out as a black woman in a white body?

[NumberSix]

Here's the real question though?
























































Is she allowed to say the N-word?

[Akrazotile]

Isn't jasmine a Persian name?


Yeah but if you spell it wrong it becomes african american :lol

[L.Kizzle]

Here's the real question though?
Is she allowed to say the N-word?
Only in bed.

[ace23]

I'm not expert but if a person can decide to be a different sex / gender all of the sudden, why can't they become a different race as well? She could've been a black woman trapped inside of a white woman's body.
They can decide to be a different gender, not a different sex.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Maybe this is more like biological sex vs gender. She can identify with African-American culture, but that doesn't change her race, just as a male can identify with being the female gender, but nothing changes the biological sex.

[ShackEelOKneel]

They can decide to be a different gender, not a different sex.

Precisely. This was just straight up deception, and that is the issue. If she she was open about being white and identified with African American culture then was elected, there would be no issue. If anything, she would be celebrated by most.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Also, did she tan a lot, or is it fake tan to the point of it essentially being blackface?

[NumberSix]

I know people try to differentiate between the two, but throughout history the two terms have been synonymous. I'm speaking in terms of biological sex when I say "gender". This whole thing of gender being a "social construct" is rather recent, at least compared to the etymological history of the two terms.
They've acutely never been synonymous. It's only recently that people try to use the word "gender" to mean something that it doesn't.

Gender applies to words, not people. For example, the word "he" has a masculine gender. It indicates that the subject it is in reference to is a male.

Humans are either male or female. Humans don't have genders. Words do.

[Akrazotile]

They can decide to be a different gender, not a different sex.


What??

Sounds like some pretty pretentious hippy pseudo-science PC bullshit.

Youre either male or female based on anatomy, with some very rare genetic exceptions that are hermaphrodite, a la deucewallace.

[ace23]

What??

Sounds like some pretty pretentious hippy paeudo-science PC bullshit.
https://soundcloud.com/slihmm/slihmm-victim-prod-chance-schreiber

[Jameerthefear]

she was hot b4

[NumberSix]

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=gender&searchmode=none
Yeah, your link says exactly what I just told you. People use it colloquially to mean sex, but it doesn't and starting around 50 years ago, people started trying to claim it as to mean an "identity" separate from sex.

[Patrick Chewing]

If we can be anyone we want to be, if that's how we truly feel inside, then I want to be Jeff. Or The Rock (Dwayne Johnson). Knowing full well that if you guys don't accept me for who I truly believe I am, then you're nothing but a bigot not worthy of society's acceptance.


I will get back to you guys on who I think I really am. And afterwards, I don't expect to see any racial animosity towards me or the whole world will see you for the animal that you really are inside.

[Lebron23]

reminds me of this movie.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jPmgJDQfKhM/R2S6TS7PfnI/AAAAAAAABDU/XBedU7HL2Gc/s1600/Howell10.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

Look at this dumb, confused bitch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Gb9kK8HGk


Reporter: "Are you African-American?"


Dolezal: "(Pause) (Smirk)....I don't understand the question."


Bitch, caught!


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[NumberSix]

Look at this dumb, confused bitch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Gb9kK8HGk


Reporter: "Are you African-American?"


Dolezal: "(Pause) (Smirk)....I don't understand the question."


Bitch, caught!
I wouldn't say she was "caught". She's not trying to run some kind of scam. She obviously has a mental issue.

To be honest, if she wants to wear spray tan and a wig, it doesn't really hurt anybody. Let her look how she wants to look, but she should probably get some kind of counselling.

[Patrick Chewing]

#6 always bringing me down to Earth.


I love you, bro.



:cheers:

[LJJ]

The focus should not be on the woman in question but on her university and on the NAACP.

http://i.imgur.com/DdsCCkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5F8nyrM.png

This woman is obviously severely mentally disturbed. Coocoo. Wacko. If you yourself are a sane person this should be obvious to you within five minutes of meeting her.

How someone like that can be a college professor and a leader in the NAACP says everything you need to know about her university and the NAACP. Completely invalidated institutions with zero merit.

[CavaliersFTW]

I'm white and have no clue how this would be percieved from the NAACP perspective or the black/African American perspective. Just YouTubing her name with a 24 hour filter I was surprised at the first two results of regular YouTubers I found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdIenhGWq94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwvTDe4qTSY

They don't care, in fact they seem to be supportive. Don't know if that represents a majority opinion or minority opinion from black/African Americans on this.

But when I thought about it, if I knew someone who was black who eventually became to be identified/known as white for w/e reasons (to attempt to get some sort of job or just to live a different identity or w/e) honestly, I wouldn't give a shit nor would I ever even feel the need to 'expose' them or w/e even if I knew they were doing it deceptively. I'd probably feel the same as those two people expressed they felt. Like, go for it who cares. It's probably weird for sure for her family, past friends, but w/e.

And her NAACP region has stated they have not changed her status so maybe they don't care either.

[HitandRun Reggie]

I wouldn't say she was "caught". She's not trying to run some kind of scam. She obviously has a mental issue.

To be honest, if she wants to wear spray tan and a wig, it doesn't really hurt anybody. Let her look how she wants to look, but she should probably get some kind of counselling.

She was definitely "caught" lying. She made up stories about being African American and said her adopted black brother was her son. You think she would have got the professor job for Africana studies and be allowed to run the state chapter of the NAACP if she was white?

I'm not saying what she did was wrong. A white person should have equal opportunity to nail down these positions, the same as a black person. So in that regard it's kind of refreshing to see her do those things, whereas she wouldn't have been able to if she had portrayed her normal self. I'm just saying she was caught lying.

[CavaliersFTW]

The focus should not be on the woman in question but on her university and on the NAACP.

http://i.imgur.com/DdsCCkz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5F8nyrM.png

This woman is obviously severely mentally disturbed. Coocoo. Wacko. If you yourself are a sane person this should be obvious to you within five minutes of meeting her.

How someone like that can be a college professor and a leader in the NAACP says everything you need to know about her university and the NAACP. Completely invalidated institutions with zero merit.
She could be talking about her husbands father.

Weird as it may sound before my grandparents passed I seem to remember my dad referring to my mom's biological dad and his father-in-law as "dad" at least on occasion. *EDIT* (Though I don't think he ever said/would have said the keyword "my" dad like to claim it was his real dad)

And of course if that's just some random old man than that's def a straight up lie :lol

[DeuceWallaces]

I wouldn't say she was "caught". She's not trying to run some kind of scam. She obviously has a mental issue.

To be honest, if she wants to wear spray tan and a wig, it doesn't really hurt anybody. Let her look how she wants to look, but she should probably get some kind of counselling.

Are you familiar with the story at all?

She was caught telling multiple lies to further her career.

[CavaliersFTW]

Whether she continues her life as usual without much consequence of this or not, she should at least from here on out own her past. I don't know that people should have a problem with her being white and being a member of the NAACP or advocating for blacks if she's doing it with competence, passion and sincerity and w/e. But she's gotta be honest, dishonestly and getting caught being dishonest is cringeworthy.

[Akrazotile]

She was definitely "caught" lying. She made up stories about being African American and said her adopted black brother was her son. You think she would have got the professor job for Africana studies and be allowed to run the state chapter of the NAACP if she was white?

I'm not saying what she did was wrong. A white person should have equal opportunity to nail down these positions, the same as a black person. So in that regard it's kind of refreshing to see her do those things, whereas she wouldn't have been able to if she had portrayed her normal self. I'm just saying she was caught lying.


Since when do you have to be black to teach AA history? Do you have to be white to teach European history?

Same with th NAACP. Yall know David Stern worked for the NAACP before being hired by the NBA right?

[dude77]

so what if she was lying .. she was just trying to fit in to who she feels that she is .. she only lied because she thought she wouldn't be accepted .. kinda like fggts do/used to do .. suddenly you hypocrites aren't so tolerant .. how surprising .. lieists .. leave this woman alone

[NumberSix]

I'm white and have no clue how this would be percieved from the NAACP perspective or the black/African American perspective. Just YouTubing her name with a 24 hour filter I was surprised at the first two results of regular YouTubers I found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdIenhGWq94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwvTDe4qTSY

They don't care, in fact they seem to be supportive. Don't know if that represents a majority opinion or minority opinion from black/African Americans on this.

But when I thought about it, if I knew someone who was black who eventually became to be identified/known as white for w/e reasons (to attempt to get some sort of job or just to live a different identity or w/e) honestly, I wouldn't give a shit nor would I ever even feel the need to 'expose' them or w/e even if I knew they were doing it deceptively. I'd probably feel the same as those two people expressed they felt. Like, go for it who cares. It's probably weird for sure for her family, past friends, but w/e.

And her NAACP region has stated they have not changed her status so maybe they don't care either.
Well, the first woman is obviously a right winger. I'll give an explanation why she doesn't care.

I don't know if there are any videos yet of left wingers angry about this woman did, but I can tell you, when there is, the gist of it will be them ranting about her "appropriating" other people victim status. How she didn't have to "go through the struggle" or how she "gets the benefits without the setbacks" and something or other about "coming from a place of privilege".

The left's whole game is using victim status as a political tool. It's political capital. Right wingers basically don't give a shit about the whole victim status thing. That's why the lady in the video doesn't care. She doesn't think this white lady is stealing an unearned victim card. The lady in the video, like most people on the right, base their ideas on principles that apply to everyone, no matter who they are. Not hierarchies of levels of oppression and victim hood.

[NumberSix]

Are you familiar with the story at all?

She was caught telling multiple lies to further her career.
Well, it seems like we all understand the reality that she's not actually a black person in a white body. She's a person with a mental issue where she believes something that isn't true.

She said she considers herself "black". I don't know exactly what that means to her, but I believe It. I don't think she's trying to trick people. I believe that she truly believes that she is her idea of what it means to be black.

I view this the same way I view a trans-woman teaching a women's studies class. I don't think a trans woman is scamming people to further her career like how "psychics" do. I get that a trans woman genuinely views themself as a woman and thinks they have every right to present themself as such. That's how I view this. I don't think she's presenting herself as a black woman for the purpose of scamming people.

[LJJ]

She could be talking about her husbands father.

That's not her husband's father, she doesn't have a husband. And that's not her son, that's her adopted kid brother. This is a crazy person. Clinically.

[CavaliersFTW]

Don't we all kind of lie to varying degrees to get ahead in life? The degree to which we do it varies by our moral compasses and our willingness to take the risk but...

http://i.imgflip.com/b6sa.gif

For example does a man like that not deceptively lie about having hair? For dates, public appearances, to feel younger around co-workers etc? Should someone go up to him and say "Are you or are you not bald sir.

Have none of you lied about your level of job-related experience to get hired somewhere?

Do women not wear make up and dye their hair to feign being younger, healthier and prettier?

This woman took it all to a level few would go... but I'm pretty sure we all are deceptive to a degree for personal gain.

[Patrick Chewing]

That's not her husband's father, she doesn't have a husband. And that's not her son, that's her adopted kid brother. This is a crazy person. Clinically.

That's nuts.


Look at her extensions in that pic though :oldlol:

She tried her best, yet failed.

[warriorfan]

Don't we all kind of lie to varying degrees to get ahead in life? The degree to which we do it varies by our moral compasses and our willingness to take the risk but...

http://i.imgflip.com/b6sa.gif

For example does a man like that not deceptively lie about having hair? For dates, public appearances, to feel younger around co-workers etc? Should someone go up to him and say "Are you or are you not bald sir.

Have none of you lied about your level of job-related experience to get hired somewhere?

Do women not wear make up and dye their hair to feign being younger, healthier and prettier?

This woman took it all to a level few would go... but I'm pretty sure we all are deceptive to a degree for personal gain.

Learn to keep it 100

[DeuceWallaces]

Well, it seems like we all understand the reality that she's not actually a black person in a white body. She's a person with a mental issue where she believes something that isn't true.

She said she considers herself "black". I don't know exactly what that means to her, but I believe It. I don't think she's trying to trick people. I believe that she truly believes that she is her idea of what it means to be black.

I view this the same way I view a trans-woman teaching a women's studies class. I don't think a trans woman is scamming people to further her career like how "psychics" do. I get that a trans woman genuinely views themself as a woman and thinks they have every right to present themself as such. That's how I view this. I don't think she's presenting herself as a black woman for the purpose of scamming people.

No. What the fvck are you even talking about.

She lied to further her career and agenda. She clearly knows she's not black. She lied about her parents and lied about her son. When finally caught she had to resort to "we're all from Africa."

Your dumbass analogy to trans-gender issues is moot and has no value in this discussion.

[NumberSix]

No. What the fvck are you even talking about.

She lied to further her career and agenda. She clearly knows she's not black. She lied about her parents and lied about her son. When finally caught she had to resort to "we're all from Africa."

Your dumbass analogy to trans-gender issues is moot and has no value in this discussion.
Mental illness isn't that cut and dry. I would guess that she both knows she isn't actually black and believes that in some way she is at the same time.

Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't think she's just a scumbag who was trying to run a hustle.

[CavaliersFTW]

That's not her husband's father, she doesn't have a husband. And that's not her son, that's her adopted kid brother. This is a crazy person. Clinically.
Damn, I thought she married a guy from Africa okay maybe that was just another lie?

She's obviously told a lot of lies over the years which she needs to come clean on if shes to continue pursuing her careers and living the life she wants to live. She should be able to do those things, and even look the way she looks, and still be able to say she's white that shouldn't be that big of a deal IMO.

[L.Kizzle]

http://7770647a14b0867efc75-b939f832d8cd9c860ce8909163419528.r92.cf2.rackcdn.c om/90152.jpg

[AceManIII]

I'm more appalled that she sent herself hate mail...crazy person...

[HitandRun Reggie]

I'm more appalled that she sent herself hate mail...crazy person...

Now that the spotlight is on her, it looks like under further scrutiny, she may have done that. She wouldn't be the first person to do this but she might be the first white person pretending to be a black person who sends hate mail to herself pretending it's from a white person to her imaginary black identity. :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Now that the spotlight is on her, it looks like under further scrutiny, she may have done that. She wouldn't be the first person to do this but she might be the first white person pretending to be a black person who sends hate mail to herself pretending it's from a white person to her imaginary black identity. :oldlol:


Sounds like something a Democrat would do to create a false narrative of racism.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Don't we all kind of lie to varying degrees to get ahead in life? The degree to which we do it varies by our moral compasses and our willingness to take the risk but...

http://i.imgflip.com/b6sa.gif

For example does a man like that not deceptively lie about having hair? For dates, public appearances, to feel younger around co-workers etc? Should someone go up to him and say "Are you or are you not bald sir.

Have none of you lied about your level of job-related experience to get hired somewhere?

Do women not wear make up and dye their hair to feign being younger, healthier and prettier?

This woman took it all to a level few would go... but I'm pretty sure we all are deceptive to a degree for personal gain.

This is a very different situation. She lied to get jobs that related directly to her lie. If you want to go the hair comparison route, it would be like finding out that the original hair club for men president who always said "I'm not just the president, I'm also a customer" had only pretended to have gone bald.

[CavaliersFTW]

This is a very different situation. She lied to get jobs that related directly to her lie. If you want to go the hair comparison route, it would be like finding out that the original hair club for men president who always said "I'm not just the president, I'm also a customer" had only pretended to have gone bald.
True that she lied to get a job directly related to her lie, not true that it's a "very" different situation. I think it's only a slightly different situation. Though one that many of us may perceive a lot differently. It's all stemming from what I posted, we all tend to lie in some way or another lie about ourselves to other people to better oursevles. The way we present ourselves in public, the way we edit our social media to filter out the bad and only show the good. It's all a "lie" in some form or another. It's all shades of gray. Doing it more directly to a job, is just crossing a lot more gray area than most of us would choose to cross. Due to the potential fall out of getting exposed legal or otherwise, and/or a sense of guilt. The examples I listed are no doubt far less severe examples, but I think they come from the same inclination we all have to improve our lives, even if it means fabricating the truth. Cross enough shades of grey and at some point it starts to be perceived as fraud. This woman will probably get investigated as I think there might be a few laws about fraud and misrepresentation being skirted here though I don't know that for certain. That'd be up to the NAACP I guess.

[warriorfan]

True that she lied to get a job directly related to her lie, not true that it's a "very" different situation. I think it's only a slightly different situation. Though one that many of us may perceive a lot differently. It's all stemming from what I posted, we all tend to lie in some way or another lie about ourselves to other people to better oursevles. The way we present ourselves in public, the way we edit our social media to filter out the bad and only show the good. It's all a "lie" in some form or another. It's all shades of gray. Doing it more directly to a job, is just crossing a lot more gray area than most of us would choose to cross. Due to the potential fall out of getting exposed legal or otherwise, and/or a sense of guilt. The examples I listed are no doubt far less severe examples, but I think they come from the same inclination we all have to improve our lives, even if it means fabricating the truth. Cross enough shades of grey and at some point it starts to be perceived as fraud. This woman will probably get investigated as I think there might be a few laws about fraud and misrepresentation being skirted here though I don't know that for certain. That'd be up to the NAACP I guess.

Not even trying to be a dick but are you projecting? Not everyone is a fugazi.

[DeuceWallaces]

True that she lied to get a job directly related to her lie, not true that it's a "very" different situation. I think it's only a slightly different situation. Though one that many of us may perceive a lot differently. It's all stemming from what I posted, we all tend to lie in some way or another lie about ourselves to other people to better oursevles. The way we present ourselves in public, the way we edit our social media to filter out the bad and only show the good. It's all a "lie" in some form or another. It's all shades of gray. Doing it more directly to a job, is just crossing a lot more gray area than most of us would choose to cross. Due to the potential fall out of getting exposed legal or otherwise, and/or a sense of guilt. The examples I listed are no doubt far less severe examples, but I think they come from the same inclination we all have to improve our lives, even if it means fabricating the truth. Cross enough shades of grey and at some point it starts to be perceived as fraud. This woman will probably get investigated as I think there might be a few laws about fraud and misrepresentation being skirted here though I don't know that for certain. That'd be up to the NAACP I guess.

Speak for yourself. I'd question your personal and professional morality if you do even half that shit.

[YouGotServed]

> born white
> pretends to be black for monetary gain

http://i.imgur.com/29Xmsza.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

I posted vids of people supportive here's one of someone who's opposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieyZ5MFeXY

[CavaliersFTW]

Speak for yourself. I'd question your personal and professional morality if you do even half that shit.
Half of what "shit"?

[NumberSix]

I posted vids of people supportive here's one of someone who's opposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieyZ5MFeXY
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

What did I tell you?

[Jailblazers7]

I'm definitely more attracted to her in the picture where she is black. Good choice on her part.

[CavaliersFTW]

Not even trying to be a dick but are you projecting? Not everyone is a fugazi.
You're right not everyone, but a lot of people are, even if it's subtle.

A man with a concealing combover is not being real about his hairline. A woman putting make up on is not being real about their actual skin and face. These are examples on the more innocent end of the spectrum, but there's definitely a spectrum.

[CavaliersFTW]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

What did I tell you?
You did call that.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Since when do you have to be black to teach AA history? Do you have to be white to teach European history?

Same with th NAACP. Yall know David Stern worked for the NAACP before being hired by the NBA right?

Let's be honest here. Like I said, do you think she would be allowed to become a professor of Africana studies and the head of her NAACP chapter if people knew she was white? I'm not saying it's not possible or has no precedence, but how many white ethnic studies professors are out there? Not a lot. And far fewer(if any) heads of NAACP chapters who are white. To accomplish either one would be a feat in itself, but for her to hold both positions as a white person? Do you think that would be possible for this blond haired, blue eyed white lady if she hadn't pretended to be black? C'mon....

Just because the NAACP supports her for now(let's see what happens if it can be proved she sent hate mail to herself), doesn't mean she would have gotten the position if they knew she was white.

[NumberSix]

You did call that.
Lol. Don't ever let the left fool you into thinking they're about "tolerance". They're about exploiting victim status for political gain.

[CavaliersFTW]

Let me just be clear here I don't think what this lady did was right, and I would raise an eyebrow and maybe wouldn't trust her if I knew her myself after her getting exposed like she did it was pretty cringe worthy.

Then again, I don't know her body of work. If her body of work is genuine and she's out to make the world a better place how "bad" this is becomes more difficult to determine.

I just enjoy playing devils advocate here to get a good understanding of all sides. And I do believe people tend to be a lot less perfect than they think they are, I honestly don't know many people who haven't been dishonest about something or other in their life. Thus, my shades of grey post. I think a lie is a lie. It's all just shades of gray IMO how extreme the lie was and what impact it was intended to have.

[oarabbus]

Lol. Don't ever let the left fool you into thinking they're about "tolerance". They're about exploiting victim status for political gain.

As someone who identifies as moderate, leaning left, but has become increasingly conservative over the years, :applause:


Seriously I hope you guys don't nominate a complete blundering retarded hackjob of a politician for 2016. I will gladly vote for not-Hilary next year, as long as the alternative isn't a total moron.

[Akrazotile]

No. What the fvck are you even talking about.

She lied to further her career and agenda. She clearly knows she's not black. She lied about her parents and lied about her son. When finally caught she had to resort to "we're all from Africa."

Your dumbass analogy to trans-gender issues is moot and has no value in this discussion.


So Bruce Jenner and countless other transgenders who get married and have kids and fully PRETEND to be a hetero member of their original gender strictly for fear of social and career backlash arent lying and misrepresenting themselves to get ahead?

[KNOW1EDGE]

Bingo.

People - asians espcecially - should start putting african amrican on college and job apps and dare someone to tell them they are not the person they identify as.

I never thought of this.

Next time I go in to get my license renewed I'm stating that I am black/African american. If Bruce Jenner can be a woman why can't I be black?

[NumberSix]

So Bruce Jenner and countless other transgenders who get married and have kids and fully PRETEND to be a hetero member of their original gender strictly for fear of social and career backlash arent lying and misrepresenting themselves to get ahead?

Not gonna hold my breath for an answer since clearly youll duck this.
In one thread I mentioned about how people who vote republican give more money to charity than people who vote democrat, he came in with his typical "you don't know what you're talking about. You never give any evidence. You spew talking points" act.

I posted tons of data, studies from the chronicle of philanthropy, rankings of which states and cities give the most and least, and a list that showed the top charitable states were all red states and all the bottom 7 states were blue.

Dude never made another appearance in that thread.

[Jameerthefear]

> born white
> pretends to be black for monetary gain

http://i.imgur.com/29Xmsza.jpg
:roll:

[DeuceWallaces]

So Bruce Jenner and countless other transgenders who get married and have kids and fully PRETEND to be a hetero member of their original gender strictly for fear of social and career backlash arent lying and misrepresenting themselves to get ahead?

There's one prominent person who did this and he has been a media attention whore his whole life and is not furthering any specific career or sense of credibility.

[KNOW1EDGE]

How is this any different from Bruce Jenner?

Both are mentally ill.

Both are furthering their careers and making money off their ilness'

One is mutilating his body and being called a hero.

The other is teaching college students and being called a scumbag and a liar.

TF IS WRONG? ONLY IN AMERICA! TF? THE ACTUAL FUHCK?

[DeuceWallaces]

In one thread I mentioned about how people who vote republican give more money to charity than people who vote democrat, he came in with his typical "you don't know what you're talking about. You never give any evidence. You spew talking points" act.

I posted tons of data, studies from the chronicle of philanthropy, rankings of which states and cities give the most and least, and a list that showed the top charitable states were all red states and all the bottom 7 states were blue.

Dude never made another appearance in that thread.

You post nothing but conservative talking points and convoluted "studies" from right wing websites. Exactly what I claimed you'd do. That infographic and "study" was hilariously stupid and filled with idiotic assumptions. Giving based on state by voting; most of which is usually given to "family-first", "charitable" organizations, i.e. we hate f4gs and minorities. Just more conservative bullshit.

Moreover, I was not discussing the charitable giving, but all the other nonsense you spew with no statistical backing about social stratification, education, ethnicity, and achievement.

You're a fvcking clown. A talking toilet bowl clogged with conservative talking points.

[Akrazotile]

There's one prominent person who did this and he has been a media attention whore his whole life and is not furthering any specific career or sense of credibility.


Yes. Pretend Bruce Jenner is the ONLY gay/transgender person who ever married a straight woman and hid his orientation from everyone he met in order to have a better chance of moving up the career/social ladder :rolleyes:

How many politicians alone we see exposed for this? And tons of business people, teachers, just everyday gay people. "I didnt come out bc I didnt wanna lose my job" is an extremely common sentiment. This woman also produced a warped reflection of her personal identity bc she liked her jobs and wanted to keep them. Same thing.

[oh the horror]

I never thought of this.

Next time I go in to get my license renewed I'm stating that I am black/African american. If Bruce Jenner can be a woman why can't I be black?




Or furthermore, a black woman? Go head girlfriend.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Or furthermore, a black woman? Go head girlfriend.

If they denied my right to identify as whomever/whatever I please could I sue them?

Or is that even a thing? Do I have the right to do that? Or is it only famous people who are allowed to be mentally-I'll and be praised for it?

[rezznor]

Here's the real question though?

is she allowed to say the N-word?


https://pinfuriating.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/moron-5-crossinglines.gif

[DonDadda59]

How is this any different than Bruce Jenner saying he's a woman?

Definitely some merit to this question.

Bruce Jenner gets some procedures done, slaps on a dress and some makeup, takes a few pics... "She's" a hero all of a sudden. Yet this strong, proud nubian princess is a pariah? I mean I get that many people are getting on her case over her lies, that's understandable. But it seems a lot have a problem with her transforming herself into a Black woman.

Let's say for argument's sake instead of lying to get ahead in the NAACP and Uinversity where she works, she was say a cashier at your local supermarket... Why is Bruce's transformation considered 'heroic' while this woman's, or someone similar to her, is viewed negatively? :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

Definitely some merit to this question.

Bruce Jenner gets some procedures done, slaps on a dress and some makeup, takes a few pics... "She's" a hero all of a sudden. Yet this strong, proud nubian princess is a pariah? I mean I get that many people are getting on her case over her lies, that's understandable. But it seems a lot have a problem with her transforming herself into a Black woman.

Let's say for argument's sake instead of lying to get ahead in the NAACP and Uinversity where she works, she was say a cashier at your local supermarket... Why is Bruce's transformation considered 'heroic' while this woman's, or someone similar to her, is viewed negatively? :confusedshrug:
What I don't get is why the usual ISH lefty PC police have such animosity towards this woman. Calling her a liar and acting like she's scamming for her own personal gain. She obviously has some mental issues that she's not fully in control of. We all understand that she's not actually black, but I don't get why some are acting like she's doing it with some kind of nefarious intentions. It appears like she's a nice person who also has some mental issues where she truly believes she is in some kind of way black.

[Smook B]

She could get it though :pimp:

[DonDadda59]

What I don't get is why the usual ISH lefty PC police have such animosity towards this woman. Calling her a liar and acting like she's scamming for her own personal gain. She obviously has some mental issues that she's not fully in control of. We all understand that she's not actually black, but I don't get why some are acting like she's doing it with some kind of nefarious intentions. It appears like she's a nice person who also has some mental issues where she truly believes she is in some kind of way black.

Yeah, the woman is clearly insane. Not dangerous in any way... but out of her mind. Just like Bruce Jenner. But Bruce is a 'hero' for believing he is a woman and wanting to mutilate himself. Yet this lady gets some hair extensions and a tan... she's the new Hitler.

[Akrazotile]

Definitely some merit to this question.

Bruce Jenner gets some procedures done, slaps on a dress and some makeup, takes a few pics... "She's" a hero all of a sudden. Yet this strong, proud nubian princess is a pariah? I mean I get that many people are getting on her case over her lies, that's understandable. But it seems a lot have a problem with her transforming herself into a Black woman.

Let's say for argument's sake instead of lying to get ahead in the NAACP and Uinversity where she works, she was say a cashier at your local supermarket... Why is Bruce's transformation considered 'heroic' while this woman's, or someone similar to her, is viewed negatively? :confusedshrug:


I believe the real answer has to do with which group she comes from and which one she wishes to be a part of.

Transgenders, if they don't "switch bodies", are almost invariably homosexual. Which is a group liberals sympathize with. In fact it goes beyond sympathy, leftists have this weird obsession with very publicly and vociferously being their ******s keeper. It's like wearing your team's jersey or putting your political party's bumper sticker on your car. They love the attention and identity they get from being on Team Tolerance more than they actually care/think about the issues themselves.

If this had been a black woman at an all-white institution, literally the only black woman there, and she had been uncovered to have portrayed herself as white just to avoid all the nuisance and potential awkwardness etc, liberals would be screaming out what a champion she was and how her business was nobody elses etc.

Or if she had wanted to be a man, then of course as a woman trying to break the barrier into a more historically "accepted" group she'd be a brave, strong woman setting a great example etc.

The problem is basically she is flouting the liberal flow chart of double standards. Yes, she's a woman, but she's a white woman, pretending to be a black woman for her own personal reasons. THAT'S wrong, because now it's exploitative since she's white and slavery existed before and all that. If a black woman wanted to become white, or a white woman wanted to become a white man, these things are all fine. But liberals have a very strict flow chart about how sensitivity, tolerance, and political correctness works. This is counterintuitive and makes the liberal tears of fake indignity run hot.

[MavsSuperFan]

lettuce be honest. It would have been harder to become a leader in the naacp if she was truthful about her race. Or become a successful African American studies professor

[MavsSuperFan]

I believe the real answer has to do with which group she comes from and which one she wishes to be a part of.

Transgenders, if they don't "switch bodies", are almost invariably homosexual. Which is a group liberals sympathize with. In fact it goes beyond sympathy, leftists have this weird obsession with very publicly and vociferously being their ******s keeper. It's like wearing your team's jersey or putting your political party's bumper sticker on your car. They love the attention and identity they get from being on Team Tolerance more than they actually care/think about the issues themselves.

If this had been a black woman at an all-white institution, literally the only black woman there, and she had been uncovered to have portrayed herself as white just to avoid all the nuisance and potential awkwardness etc, liberals would be screaming out what a champion she was and how her business was nobody elses etc.

Or if she had wanted to be a man, then of course as a woman trying to break the barrier into a more historically "accepted" group she'd be a brave, strong woman setting a great example etc.

The problem is basically she is flouting the liberal flow chart of double standards. Yes, she's a woman, but she's a white woman, pretending to be a black woman for her own personal reasons. THAT'S wrong, because now it's exploitative since she's white and slavery existed before and all that. If a black woman wanted to become white, or a white woman wanted to become a white man, these things are all fine. But liberals have a very strict flow chart about how sensitivity, tolerance, and political correctness works. This is counterintuitive and makes the liberal tears of fake indignity run hot.
:lol why are you angry doe :wtf:

[Akrazotile]

lettuce be honest. It would have been harder to become a leader in the naacp if she was truthful about her race. Or become a successful African American studies professor


Yeah, it's completely outrageous and unethical.


Just like these lying, conniving snakes who misrepresented themselves to try and sell records in the 50s.

https://rockhall.com/media/assets/inductees/default/clyde-mcphatter.jpg
http://s18.postimg.org/dy0ictqjt/image.jpg
https://cdn2.cdnme.se/cdn/9-1/45156/images/2012/nat-king-cole-1_184730686.jpg



Same thing, right?

[Akrazotile]

:lol why are you angry doe :wtf:


Well, mostly just because unintelligent people like you getting outraged easily over contrived and frivolous things prevents our country as a whole from focusing on the real areas we need to change and improve.

I mean that's pretty much why. :confusedshrug:

Does that answer your question?

[MavsSuperFan]

> born white
> pretends to be black for monetary gain

http://i.imgur.com/29Xmsza.jpg
There are a few situations where being black is an advantage
Eg. when trying to become a civil rights leader and a professor teaching african american studies.

[Akrazotile]

There are a few situations where being black is an advantage
Eg. when trying to become a civil rights leader and a professor teaching african american studies.

Yeah, right, totally. Oh and don't forget runningback and rapper.

It's very important that we identify traditionally white professions and do our best to diversify them, coercively if necessary, and then identify traditionally black professions, and do everything within our power to preserve their racial integrity.

#FlowChart
#LiberalDoe
#PretendSmart

[MavsSuperFan]

Well, mostly just because unintelligent people like you getting outraged easily over contrived and frivolous things prevents our country as a whole from focusing on the real areas we need to change and improve.

I mean that's pretty much why. :confusedshrug:

Does that answer your question?
I think have only gotten angry about 3 topics on here

1. men not having the right to give up rights to a child through an equivalent law that is similar to baby Moses laws.
2. The possibility of not having the death penalty.
3. Religious people infringing on my rights.

I am too selfish to get angry about issues that affect others, even if I support them.


ust because unintelligent people like you getting outraged easily over contrived and frivolous things prevents our country as a whole from focusing on the real areas we need to change and improve.

Please provide examples of when you think I have offered an unintelligent or illogical opinion and give me the chance to defend my POV.

Please provide examples of how you think the country can improve?
Overall i think america is the best country on earth. There are various parts that could improve, but every country has flaws.

[MavsSuperFan]

Yeah, right, totally. Oh and don't forget runningback and rapper.

It's very important that we identify traditionally white professions and do our best to diversify them, coercively if necessary, and then identify traditionally black professions, and do everything within our power to preserve their racial integrity.

#FlowChart
#LiberalDoe
#PretendSmart
:lol white victimhood:cry: :cry:

[Akrazotile]

Please provide examples of how you think the country can improve?
Overall i think america is the best country on earth. There are various parts that could improve, but every country has flaws.


The economy is changing and as a result of illegal immigration, teen birth rates, and generous welfare incentives, we have a growing population of young people who will not grow up with the skills to be productive in society.

Idiot liberals want to raise the minimum wage, yet continue to flood the country with cheap illegal labor and encourage unfit teen moms to get knocked up and 'raise' kids who won't be equipped to function in a service economy. Wages are a result of supply and demand of available labor. The more unskilled people there are, of course the wages will drop. That's how the economy works. Liberals are living in a retarded bubble of ignorance and denial.

Look at these GS Warrior games. A bunch of people who learned to code computers for fun as kids and hit the jackpot when it became a big part of the economy, now they live in ivory towers as far away from the Oakland side of town as possible, spend obscene amounts of money attending basketball games, and have the nerve to talk about raising the minimum wage, supporting illegals, granting more welfare, blaming white police officers etc. But if they care so much about these underserved communities, why don't they go live in them? A lot of these idiots are the same ones who explain away every violent black criminal's choice of lifestyle by saying "white flight has ruined their schools systems and gave them no other choice" etc etc but they're the ones flying away!

They want to sit in ivory towers and PREACH impossible ideals that DO NOT WORK for lower income, lower educated people. "Yeah, just give them some more govt money, they'll totes use it responsibly and overcome!" "If you need me I'll be in my exclusive gated all-white neighborhood overlooking Carmel."

The gap is growing in this country because liberals mouths are saying "support the lower class! support the minority!" but their actions are slamming a lead foot on the gas to get away from them as fast and far as possible while continuing to shout from the window "I'm all about the lower classsss!!!!!"

Shit's a joke. And these poor communities end up going nowhere, and are reproducing way too fast relative to what will be available in the future, ESPECIALLY if we raise minimum wages. It's an unsustainable situation, but liberals are so obsessed with posturing themselves as Robin Hood, while taking NO actions to back it up, that we're stuck in the mud with increasingly violent, gang-related communities that are spreading across entire regions of cities like Chicago and Baltimore etc. It's ****ing up, and as someone who cares about the ****ing country I live in, that matters to me. Unlike you.

[Akrazotile]

Moreover, global population is ****ing up the Earth's environment permanently and irreversibly. I'm not just talking about climate change, I'm talking about precious species that took literally billions of years to evolve into a very specific, unique role on the planet being wiped out rapidly. That shit is brutal. If you care about the Earth, you shoudl care about this.

We don't need another 1 billion muslims on this planet. We need to STOP these people from reproducing. 7 billion people already, we don't need to go any farther. We have to SERIOUSLY FACE these issues.

The time for being an effeminate, over-sensitive, PC dominated beta like deucewallaces is OVER. If you care about the country, the planet, the world, it has to be OVER. We have to face difficult problems and enforce difficult strategies to alleviate them. It's not always the prettiest and easiest and ideologically most please solution. Liberals simply can't stomach this real life shit. That's why they believe the way they do. There's a reason eternal salvation is promised AFTER real life in most world religions. Because this life shit is hard, and people can't ignore it and turn away from it and expect it to function. If you believe in a reward that's fine, but there's a reason it comes at the end. That's why I always LOL when people like you bash religion. You're every bit as religious as anyone else! Your religious ideals are just a hundred times less practical. That's the great irony.

[TripleA]

what do you think the U.S should do to face these problems.

[Jameerthefear]

i wish akrazotile wasnt so ****ing stupid

[ace23]

I posted vids of people supportive here's one of someone who's opposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieyZ5MFeXY
Yo this ***** going off and I'm only 55 seconds in :roll: :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

I would still eat that ass like a bowl of coco puffs........


Same here. But them lips down there are probably so loose cause of the BBC.

[Ne 1]

She's not white, she's transracial.

check your cisrace privilege.

[catch24]

Her views on civil rights issues are not at issue, but someone who is one race and claims to be of another has serious mental problems. There is probably some sort of psychiatric term for this but I don't know what it is. :oldlol:

[Ne 1]

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2f06kad.jpg


http://oi57.tinypic.com/2641e1w.jpg

[Akrazotile]

Her views on civil rights issues are not at issue, but someone who is one race and claims to be of another has serious mental problems. There is probably some sort of psychiatric term for this but I don't know what it is. :oldlol:


I think it's ******.

[DeuceWallaces]

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2f06kad.jpg


http://oi57.tinypic.com/2641e1w.jpg

That would have been a compelling argument from the get-go, but not after being caught in a series of lies.

Furthermore, gender identification issues at least have some biological support through various studies showing elevated hormone levels or neural activity typically found in the opposite gender.

I'm not aware of any such phenomena between ethnicities.

[Patrick Chewing]

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2f06kad.jpg


http://oi57.tinypic.com/2641e1w.jpg


Whoever this Twitter user is, is insane.

People aren't born in the wrong skin, unless you're born a lizard. GTFO here. These quotes are loony.

And the second one? Illegal? It is perfectly legal for me not to accept people. I don't have to like you and you don't have to like me. Perfectly legal.


Just because some fat retard hashatagged the shit out these Tweets doesn't give these asinine tweets any relevance.

Where did all these dumb people come from??

[Ne 1]

That would have been a compelling argument from the get-go, but not after being caught in a series of lies.

Furthermore, gender identification issues at least have some biological support through various studies showing elevated hormone levels or neural activity typically found in the opposite gender.

I'm not aware of any such phenomena between ethnicities.

We can see evidence of mental illness, therefore, we must change the definition of male and female.

[brownmamba00]

wow now we trans-racial people too:lol

peeps need to realize all these trans gender/racial people are nothing but crazy.wack.handicapped mentally

[HitandRun Reggie]

wow now we trans-racial people too:lol

peeps need to realize all these trans gender/racial people are nothing but crazy.wack.handicapped mentally

LIES!

https://theveryspecialblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screen-shot-2014-10-07-at-9-44-39-pm.png

[brownmamba00]

LIES!

https://theveryspecialblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screen-shot-2014-10-07-at-9-44-39-pm.png
the concept of ******'s is nothing new tho

but this bitch took it to a whole other level she's crazy

[DeuceWallaces]

We can see evidence of mental illness, therefore, we must change the definition of male and female.

What the fvck are you even talking about?

[RedBlackAttack]

Did you guys see the follow-up story done with her brother. She specifically told him not to "blow her cover" when he came to Spokane.

This woman is too much. lol

_______________________________________


Rachel Dolezal’s Brother Says She Warned: “Don’t Blow My Cover”

Ezra Dolezal told BuzzFeed News that his adopted sister warned him to not tell anyone in Spokane that she wasn’t really black as she started a new life for herself.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-06/12/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-30921-1434143993-1.jpg
From left to right: Ezra Dolezal, Franklin Moore (Rachel’s biological son), Rachel Dolezal, and Zach Dolezal.


It was 2012, and Rachel Dolezal had a warning for her adopted brother as she prepared for a new life in Spokane, Washington.

“She just told me, ‘Over here, I’m going to be considered black, and I have a black father. Don’t blow my cover,’” Ezra Dolezal, 22, told BuzzFeed News in an interview.

Rachel also told him to tell people that he and her other adopted brother were her “blood brothers,” he said.

His sister did not offer “any logical explanation” for why she was changing her identity, and Ezra never confronted her about it. But it was the next stage after growing apart from her parents, Ruthanne and Larry Dolezal, and leaving their home in Montana.

“She wanted to make a new life for herself but she took it to the ultimate extreme,” Ezra said. “Not only did she move out to Spokane, but she created a whole new identity for herself.”

That life as the president of the Spokane chapter of the NAACP and a city police oversight commissioner erupted in controversy this week after her parents told local media she is actually white, and passing off her younger adopted black brother as her own son.

Ezra first began noticing a change in his sister around six years ago, including a lot of hair products when he visited her in Spokane.

“My younger sister Esther is fully African-American and Rachel used to do her hair a lot. She really enjoyed it, so she already knew a lot about hair products and started applying them to herself,” Ezra said.

Then, starting in 2011, Rachel began applying makeup to her face to appear “darker and darker” and perming her naturally straight, blonde hair, Ezra said.

While the change in her physical appearance was gradual, her decision to officially identify as black was sudden, he added.

Ezra believes the only reason his sister would change her identity was due to the racism she claimed to have encountered at Howard University, where she graduated with her master’s degree in fine art in 2002.

Rachel, he added, would often complain that she was treated poorly as one of only a few white students on a mostly black campus.

“She used to tell us that teachers treated her differently than other people and a lot of them acted like they didn’t want her there,” Ezra said. “Because of her work in African-American art, they thought she was a black student during her application, but they ended up with a white person.”

He said that the experience made her angry, and it was then that Rachel started being “hateful to white people.”

“It’s like what psychologists call self-hating,” Ezra said. “She had no reason not to like herself being white. She was an awesome artist and she could have accomplished everything she did, if she had stayed exactly the same.”

Ezra said Rachel also brainwashed their other adopted brother, Izaiah, into hating white people and told him that their parents were racist. Rachel obtained legal custody of Izaiah in 2010, and calls the now-21-year-old her birth son.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-06/12/19/enhanced/webdr05/enhanced-571-1434153070-1.jpg

While acknowledging that their parents were strict and sometimes used corporal punishment, Ezra denied Rachel’s claims that she and the other siblings were abused.

“She was treated really well as a child,” he said, adding, “I think I would know if I was abused growing up, and I definitely wasn’t.”

He also contradicted Rachel’s account that she had lived in South Africa and hunted with bows and arrows. Ezra said he lived there with his parents, and other adopted siblings, from 2002 to 2006. Rachel was living in Virginia at the time and never visited the family abroad, he added.

“She’s never been to Africa in her entire life,” Ezra said.

Ezra’s relationship with his sister wasn’t always so toxic.

“I would talk to her all the time before all this fell apart and she became angry towards everybody,” he said.

But now, Ezra said he doesn’t believe anything Rachel has said or done over the past few years, including her claims of being diagnosed with cervical cancer in 2006.

“I wasn’t in touch with her regularly during that time, but she didn’t mention anything about having cancer until very recently,” he said.

He also doesn’t buy her claims of receiving hate mail or being the target of racist attacks.

“She made herself into a martyr on purpose for people to feel sorry for her and to help her,” Ezra said.

For her part, Rachel has rejected the implication that she lied about being targeted or receiving threats. And the NAACP issued a statement Friday backing her record of advocacy and service, particularly as president of the local Spokane chapter.

“President Rachel Dolezal is enduring a legal issue with her family, and we respect her privacy in this matter,” the NAACP said. “One’s racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership. The NAACP Alaska-Oregon-Washington State Conference stands behind Ms. Dolezal’s advocacy record.”

But Ezra said he felt it was a “slap in the face” to African-Americans for his sister to co-opt their struggles when she grew up white, in a nice house, with a good education.

“She puts dark makeup on her face and says she black,” he said. “It’s basically blackface,” he said.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/rachel-dolezals-brother-says-she-warned-dont-blow-my-cover#.hcqk8Apxl

[Akrazotile]

Did you guys see the follow-up story done with her brother. She specifically told him not to "blow her cover" when he came to Spokane.

This woman is too much. lol

_______________________________________


Rachel Dolezal’s Brother Says She Warned: “Don’t Blow My Cover”

Ezra Dolezal told BuzzFeed News that his adopted sister warned him to not tell anyone in Spokane that she wasn’t really black as she started a new life for herself.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-06/12/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-30921-1434143993-1.jpg

From left to right: Ezra Dolezal, Franklin Moore (Rachel’s biological son), Rachel Dolezal, and Zach Dolezal.


It was 2012, and Rachel Dolezal had a warning for her adopted brother as she prepared for a new life in Spokane, Washington.

“She just told me, ‘Over here, I’m going to be considered black, and I have a black father. Don’t blow my cover,’” Ezra Dolezal, 22, told BuzzFeed News in an interview.

Rachel also told him to tell people that he and her other adopted brother were her “blood brothers,” he said.

His sister did not offer “any logical explanation” for why she was changing her identity, and Ezra never confronted her about it. But it was the next stage after growing apart from her parents, Ruthanne and Larry Dolezal, and leaving their home in Montana.

“She wanted to make a new life for herself but she took it to the ultimate extreme,” Ezra said. “Not only did she move out to Spokane, but she created a whole new identity for herself.”

That life as the president of the Spokane chapter of the NAACP and a city police oversight commissioner erupted in controversy this week after her parents told local media she is actually white, and passing off her younger adopted black brother as her own son.

Ezra first began noticing a change in his sister around six years ago, including a lot of hair products when he visited her in Spokane.

“My younger sister Esther is fully African-American and Rachel used to do her hair a lot. She really enjoyed it, so she already knew a lot about hair products and started applying them to herself,” Ezra said.

Then, starting in 2011, Rachel began applying makeup to her face to appear “darker and darker” and perming her naturally straight, blonde hair, Ezra said.

While the change in her physical appearance was gradual, her decision to officially identify as black was sudden, he added.

Ezra believes the only reason his sister would change her identity was due to the racism she claimed to have encountered at Howard University, where she graduated with her master’s degree in fine art in 2002.

Rachel, he added, would often complain that she was treated poorly as one of only a few white students on a mostly black campus.

“She used to tell us that teachers treated her differently than other people and a lot of them acted like they didn’t want her there,” Ezra said. “Because of her work in African-American art, they thought she was a black student during her application, but they ended up with a white person.”

He said that the experience made her angry, and it was then that Rachel started being “hateful to white people.”

“It’s like what psychologists call self-hating,” Ezra said. “She had no reason not to like herself being white. She was an awesome artist and she could have accomplished everything she did, if she had stayed exactly the same.”

Ezra said Rachel also brainwashed their other adopted brother, Izaiah, into hating white people and told him that their parents were racist. Rachel obtained legal custody of Izaiah in 2010, and calls the now-21-year-old her birth son.

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While acknowledging that their parents were strict and sometimes used corporal punishment, Ezra denied Rachel’s claims that she and the other siblings were abused.

“She was treated really well as a child,” he said, adding, “I think I would know if I was abused growing up, and I definitely wasn’t.”

He also contradicted Rachel’s account that she had lived in South Africa and hunted with bows and arrows. Ezra said he lived there with his parents, and other adopted siblings, from 2002 to 2006. Rachel was living in Virginia at the time and never visited the family abroad, he added.

“She’s never been to Africa in her entire life,” Ezra said.

Ezra’s relationship with his sister wasn’t always so toxic.

“I would talk to her all the time before all this fell apart and she became angry towards everybody,” he said.

But now, Ezra said he doesn’t believe anything Rachel has said or done over the past few years, including her claims of being diagnosed with cervical cancer in 2006.

“I wasn’t in touch with her regularly during that time, but she didn’t mention anything about having cancer until very recently,” he said.

He also doesn’t buy her claims of receiving hate mail or being the target of racist attacks.

“She made herself into a martyr on purpose for people to feel sorry for her and to help her,” Ezra said.

For her part, Rachel has rejected the implication that she lied about being targeted or receiving threats. And the NAACP issued a statement Friday backing her record of advocacy and service, particularly as president of the local Spokane chapter.

“President Rachel Dolezal is enduring a legal issue with her family, and we respect her privacy in this matter,” the NAACP said. “One’s racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership. The NAACP Alaska-Oregon-Washington State Conference stands behind Ms. Dolezal’s advocacy record.”

But Ezra said he felt it was a “slap in the face” to African-Americans for his sister to co-opt their struggles when she grew up white, in a nice house, with a good education.

“She puts dark makeup on her face and says she black,” he said. “It’s basically blackface,” he said.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/rachel-dolezals-brother-says-she-warned-dont-blow-my-cover#.hcqk8Apxl



So she embraced the change in personal identity she began to feel, and served as president of an advocacy group that ostensibly helps minorities deal with various issues.

And you feel good about yourself for ridiculing and piling on her?

[Patrick Chewing]

I actually agreed with Douchewallace here. Bottom line, she lied about her race for personal gain. The NAACP is a hypocritical joke of an organization anyway. No way they would elect a Republican African-American to run a chapter. They rather have a Liberal white woman in blackface do the job. What does that tell ya?

[Akrazotile]

I actually agreed with Douchewallace here. Bottom line, she lied about her race for personal gain. The NAACP is a hypocritical joke of an organization anyway. No way they would elect a Republican African-American to run a chapter. They rather have a Liberal white woman in blackface do the job. What does that tell ya?



Well I dont personally care what this woman does or what happens to her, nor what the naacp chooses to do with itself and its affairs, but just speaking generally if someone wants to be trans-racial, we might as well just put it in the same category as trans-gender and accept it as the new normal. Its really all the same.

[L.Kizzle]

Yeah, it's completely outrageous and unethical.


Just like these lying, conniving snakes who misrepresented themselves to try and sell records in the 50s.

https://rockhall.com/media/assets/inductees/default/clyde-mcphatter.jpg
http://s18.postimg.org/dy0ictqjt/image.jpg
https://cdn2.cdnme.se/cdn/9-1/45156/images/2012/nat-king-cole-1_184730686.jpg



Same thing, right?
My boy Jackie Wilson.

[Patrick Chewing]

True, she can be or "pretend" to be whoever she wants. We can mock and ridicule all we want too. Clearly, just like Bruce Jenner, she has a mental disorder as she cannot accept who she is.

I like to accept reality, and the reality is that Bruce Jenner is a man and will always be a man regardless of his operation. And this woman will always be a Caucasian woman regardless of how much spray tan she sprays on or how many extensions she purchases.

This fake anger towards people who don't accept them for who they want to be is silly though.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHbGLtBWwAA6lmX.jpg

[MavsSuperFan]

The only real issues is that she lied to get career advancement and educational opportunities. Other than that she should be allowed to pretend to be black. it is a free country. whats the harm of a person pretending to be another race?

[wakencdukest]

She's an asshole. Lied her way into the NAACP, lied about being abused in her childhood, pretty much lied about everything to get where she's at today. Despite what she does for the black community as president of the Spokane chapter of the NAACP, she's still a huge, manipulative, lying piece of shit.

[warriorfan]

http://www.ecranlarge.com/uploads/image/000/500/original-488909-360.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtsvIpJFTw full trailer

[DeuceWallaces]

Well I dont personally care what this woman does or what happens to her, nor what the naacp chooses to do with itself and its affairs, but just speaking generally if someone wants to be trans-racial, we might as well just put it in the same category as trans-gender and accept it as the new normal. Its really all the same.

It's not the same at all. There's biochemical evidence behind lots of gender identity issues. This woman is just a liar.

[NumberSix]

She's an asshole. Lied her way into the NAACP, lied about being abused in her childhood, pretty much lied about everything to get where she's at today. Despite what she does for the black community as president of the Spokane chapter of the NAACP, she's still a huge, manipulative, lying piece of shit.
People keep saying this, but what has she actually done for "the black community"? Anything?

[NumberSix]

It's not the same at all. There's biochemical evidence behind lots of gender identity issues. This woman is just a liar.
No, there isn't. There's no difference between the brain of a "trans-gendered" person and a regular gay person who does not have "gender issues".

[warriorfan]

No, there isn't. There's no difference between the brain of a "trans-gendered" person and a regular gay person who does not have "gender issues".

Yes. For example, NumberSix is really an elderly Chinese Woman but has the mind and soul of a Male WASP.

[wakencdukest]

People keep saying this, but what has she actually done for "the black community"? Anything?


I'm not sure. But as president of an NAACP chapter, whatever she did must have been for the black cause.

[RedBlackAttack]

So she embraced the change in personal identity she began to feel, and served as president of an advocacy group that ostensibly helps minorities deal with various issues.

And you feel good about yourself for ridiculing and piling on her?
Yes. I think the story is hilarious.

[Stempel, HERB]

No. What the fvck are you even talking about.

She lied to further her career and agenda. She clearly knows she's not black. She lied about her parents and lied about her son. When finally caught she had to resort to "we're all from Africa."

Your dumbass analogy to trans-gender issues is moot and has no value in this discussion.

https://youtu.be/NzbhbetwYFU?t=1m51s

[TheMan]

WTF is the big deal:confusedshrug:

I'm Mexican but sometimes I like telling people I'm either Colombian, Argentine, Puerto Rican, Cuban etc for shits and giggles and to throw 'em a curve once in a while.:lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Did you guys see the follow-up story done with her brother. She specifically told him not to "blow her cover" when he came to Spokane.

This woman is too much. lol

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[SIZE="5"][B]Rachel Dolezal

[ArbitraryWater]

RachelDolezal responds:

https://twitter.com/deray/status/609862176728313856

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah306/MaleRuler/GIFs/Confused-Jacksonville-Jaguars-fan-in-stands_zps5syosz9r.gif

[DeuceWallaces]

No, there isn't. There's no difference between the brain of a "trans-gendered" person and a regular gay person who does not have "gender issues".


Furthermore, although a conclusion about etiology of trans identity remains nondefinitive (Ellis & Erickson, 2002; Erhardt, Epstein, & Money, 1968; Ma, 1997; Money & Dalery, 1976; Sanchez & Vilain, 2009; Yalom, Green, & Fisk, 1973) current life sciences research lends support to the notion that being transgender is not a mental health disorder, but rather might best be conceptualized as a birth defect resulting from the delivery or nondelivery of androgens at critical times in brain development to the individual while in utero (see Berglund, Lindstrom, Dhejne-Helmy, & Savic, 2008; Forger et al., 2004; Kruijver et al., 2000; Moir & Jessel, 1989; Pickeial, Makaowski, Boguski, & Boeke, 2000; Zhou, Hofman, Gooren, & Swaab, 1995). Thus, from a biological perspective, it would seem that gender identity is not only reflective of one’s assigned biological sex, but also brain reflective; meaning that a person can be assigned one biological sex in terms of genitalia and be the opposite or same sex in terms of one’s brain (Prince, 2005). Indeed, researchers have revealed a difference in the density in neural connectivity in the area of the hypothalamus known as the “bed nucleus of the stria terminalis” between male and female brains, whereby masculinized brains have 44–60% more neural connectivity and a denser cell network within this area of the brain in comparison with their female counterparts (Zhou et al., 1995). This regional brain difference has also been reported in male-to-female (MTF) transsexuals (Berglund et al., 2008; Kruijver et al., 2000, 2000; Zhou et al., 1995). To reiterate, it is through the occurrence or nonoccurrence of androgen dosages at critical times, while in utero that is believed to account for feminization or masculization of one’s brain (Pickeial et al., 2000).

Blumer, M. L. C., Green, M. S., Knowles, S. J. and Williams, A. (2012), Shedding Light on Thirteen Years of Darkness: Content Analysis of Articles Pertaining to Transgender Issues In Marriage/Couple and Family Therapy Journals. Journal of Marital and Family Therapy, 38: 244–256. doi: 10.1111/j.1752-0606.2012.00317.x

There. Now shut the fvck up. Once again you have no idea what you're talking about. This partial review from an introductory portion of a peer reviewed paper lists 17 unique studies suggesting a variety of mechanisms which may be responsible for transgender issues. This is just one paragraph from one review.

Took me 30 seconds to find that. Maybe next time you don't know what the fvck you're talking about you should try and learn something first.

[Jameerthefear]

deuce protectin his n*ggas!!

[DeuceWallaces]

deuce protectin his n*ggas!!

Actually, I don't know shit about transgender anything, but after reading a post, and before I decided to open my mouth, I took 5 minutes to read a quality study and become, at least slightly, informed.

I know that seems like alien technology to most of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-yHQn4ECio

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces][B]Blumer, M. L. C., Green, M. S., Knowles, S. J. and Williams, A. (2012), Shedding Light on Thirteen Years of Darkness: Content Analysis of Articles Pertaining to Transgender Issues In Marriage/Couple and Family Therapy Journals. Journal of Marital and Family Therapy, 38: 244

[DeuceWallaces]

I did not say there is no difference between the brain of a normal straight male and a trans male-to-female. I said there is no difference between the brain of a gay male and a trans. Your post has nothing to do with that.

You're wrong on that too. The work being done in this field is based on the same techniques but do not show similar relationships and the suggested causes are different.

Once again, shut the fvck up.

[longtime lurker]

This lady is all kinds of fvcked up. She took cultural appropriation to the 100th level. And for all you dip shits saying this is the same thing as Caitlyn Jenner you're ****ing idiots. No need to support a lying nutbag just because you dislike transgendered people.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Well she quit her NAACP position today.

And in addition to possibly sending herself hate mail, she apparently denied class participation in certain minority events to light skinned Hispanics who didn't look Latino enough even though one girl was born in a Latin American country and her first language was Spanish. This lady is nuts. :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

Well she quit her NAACP position today.

And in addition to possibly sending herself hate mail, she apparently denied class participation in certain minority events to light skinned Hispanics who didn't look Latino enough even though one girl was born in a Latin American country and her first language was Spanish. This lady is nuts. :oldlol:




Where'd you see that? Apparently they weren't "ethnic enough" for the white woman :oldlol:

[HitandRun Reggie]

Where'd you see that? Apparently they weren't "ethnic enough" for the white woman :oldlol:

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/14/rachel_dolezal_sunday_update_reports_from_inside_h er_race_and_culture_college_courses_also_rob_lowe_ jumps_in/

[oh the horror]

Wow. Can't imagine what her students or in particular that student must be thinking now.


A white woman posing as a black woman telling you that you don't look ethnic enough to have experienced racial discrimination.


If that isn't irony then I don't know wtf is

[ShackEelOKneel]

She put out a statement that sounds nice, but mostly because she deflected the issue. She talked about social and racial justice, which of course will get most upset in the situation to back off a bit, but didn't acknowledge her lying and deceit. Luckily, her mother responded in pointing out that she did not apologize or address the real issue. Just kind of shows the continued deceit and manipulation of her.

[NumberSix]

People should probably just leave this woman alone. It's clear she already has issues and all this negative attention could drive her to commit suicide. She likes looking like a bi-racial person. It's really not that big of a deal.

[longtime lurker]

Well she quit her NAACP position today.

And in addition to possibly sending herself hate mail, she apparently denied class participation in certain minority events to light skinned Hispanics who didn't look Latino enough even though one girl was born in a Latin American country and her first language was Spanish. This lady is nuts. :oldlol:

I read that story and I honestly can't believe she had the balls to do that. Just an example of how problematic her lying this whole time is.

[navy]

I honestly think we should accept her desire to be black. Although, all the crazy lying and mental shit she does needs to stop.

Same with transexuals. Sorry you're still a man.

[HitandRun Reggie]

I'm willing to bet publishers and movie producers are lining up around the block to give this woman millions. Hell I bet she has an offer from a porn producer for at least $100,000. Think about it, white guy does her when she's black, she gets the BBC as a white girl. Then she goes half black on her body right down the middle including a bicolor bush, and gets DP'd by a white and black dude. That's the AVN movie of the year right there my friends. :rockon:

Ok maybe I got a little carried away...

[Meticode]

What a world. We're born male and female and can choose to legally change to the opposite sex. We're born a certain race, now it's fine to lie about your previous life, pretend to be a race you're not to get personal gain.

[That_Admiral]

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/14/rachel_dolezal_sunday_update_reports_from_inside_h er_race_and_culture_college_courses_also_rob_lowe_ jumps_in/
Sorry i haven't really been up to date in this, but how is this story transgender?

[Akrazotile]

What a world. We're born male and female and can choose to legally change to the opposite sex. We're born a certain race, now it's fine to lie about your previous life, pretend to be a race you're not to get personal gain.


Its actually not a super recent phenomena. Many immigrants of yesteryear would change their last names if they came from a country that was often persecuted or looked down on in American cities back in the day; Italians, Irish, Jews, Cubans etc.

People gon be who they wanna.

[Bandito]

Its actually not a super recent phenomena. Many immigrants of yesteryear would change their last names if they came from a country that was often persecuted or looked down on in American cities back in the day; Italians, Irish, Jews, Cubans etc.

People gon be who they wanna.
Like some people calling themselves Jackie Chan or something similar so it is easier to pronounce for western people:lol

[Akrazotile]

Like some people calling themselves Jackie Chan or something similar so it is easier to pronounce for western people:lol


Yeah, the pronounciation simplification happened a lot, but even beyond that sometimes people would completely change their last name to avoid ethnic association. Like Dean Martin's real name was Dino Crocetti but he used a more neutral name to avoid anti-Italian backlash. Sammy Davis Jr's mom was Cuban, but he always claimed his hispanic side was Rican bc of the anti-Cuban sentiment of the 50s. And Frank Sinatra's dad used go around as Marty O'Brien for a period of time bc of prejudices against Italians in his times. Whoopi Goldberg adopted her last name when she went into showbiz bc showbiz is said to be Jew friendly. While real jews often took gentile last names in previous eras to be able to avoid certain discriminations.

So its not really that new for people to adopt and/or purport ethnicities that make sense for them and their pursuits.

[HomieWeMajor]

Only real ni99as like me , Bryant Gumbel and Ernie Johnson can call ourselfs black from birth.

[Heilige]

Yeah, the pronounciation simplification happened a lot, but even beyond that sometimes people would completely change their last name to avoid ethnic association. Like Dean Martin's real name was Dino Crocetti but he used a more neutral name to avoid anti-Italian backlash. Sammy Davis Jr's mom was Cuban, but he always claimed his hispanic side was Rican bc of the anti-Cuban sentiment of the 50s. And Frank Sinatra's dad used go around as Marty O'Brien for a period of time bc of prejudices against Italians in his times. Whoopi Goldberg adopted her last name when she went into showbiz bc showbiz is said to be Jew friendly. While real jews often took gentile last names in previous eras to be able to avoid certain discriminations.

So its not really that new for people to adopt and/or purport ethnicities that make sense for them and their pursuits.


In today's world what do you think of people who adopt and/or puport ethnicities that make sense for them and their pursuits? Do you consider them sellouts?

[Akrazotile]

In today's world what do you think of people who adopt and/or puport ethnicities that make sense for them and their pursuits? Do you consider them sellouts?


No, why would I? Nobody is bound to identify with a particular group culturally, even if they were born as a part of that physical demographic.

It's basically like men who know they're gay or who know they feel like women on the inside, but walk around pretending to be straight and even getting married and having kids for cover. If it's their business and it's not bothering anyone, I don't really give AF. However if I feel like joking about it or criticizing any aspect of it, that's my right as well.

[Heilige]

No, why would I? Nobody is bound to identify with a particular group culturally, even if they were born as a part of that physical demographic.

It's basically like men who know they're gay or who know they feel like women on the inside, but walk around pretending to be straight and even getting married and having kids for cover. If it's their business and it's not bothering anyone, I don't really give AF. However if I feel like joking about it or criticizing any aspect of it, that's my right as well.


I see what you mean. If you were italian, black, irish, etc would you have done what they did? Interestingly, Frank Sinatra kept his last name. He was told to change it to Satin but kept it as Sinatra.

[oh the horror]

I see what you mean. If you were italian, black, irish, etc would you have done what they did? Interestingly, Frank Sinatra kept his last name. He was told to change it to Satin but kept it as Sinatra.



That's because ol' Frankie blue eyes could walk into a room, pull his pants down, bend over and fart and it would still somehow be charming

[bdreason]

So she had 4 black brothers, and lived much of her life as a black women, which includes being discriminated against for being black. I find it incredibly ironic that she's essentially being fired because of her race, despite the fact that she lived most of her life as a black woman and fought for black rights.

I know people will say that she lied about her race... but I thought it was illegal to hire/fire someone in America because of their race, so why does it matter what she wrote on an application?


I also realize that this lady is probably bat-shit crazy, so I don't think it's a complete tragedy... but it brings up some interesting philosophical questions about what it means to be black or white.

[oh the horror]

So she had 4 black brothers, and lived much of her life as a black women, which includes being discriminated against for being black. I find it incredibly ironic that she's essentially being fired because of her race, despite the fact that she lived most of her life as a black woman and fought for black rights.

I know people will say that she lied about her race... but I thought it was illegal to hire/fire someone in America because of their race, so why does it matter what she wrote on an application?


I also realize that this lady is probably bat-shit crazy, so I don't think it's a complete tragedy... but it brings up some interesting philosophical questions about what it means to be black or white.




Or perhaps they pushed her out because she's bat shit crazy? I know I'd be very fu*king concerned about that woman after finding out all of the little gems about her

[Akrazotile]

So she had 4 black brothers, and lived much of her life as a black women, which includes being discriminated against for being black. I find it incredibly ironic that she's essentially being fired because of her race, despite the fact that she lived most of her life as a black woman and fought for black rights.

I know people will say that she lied about her race... but I thought it was illegal to hire/fire someone in America because of their race, so why does it matter what she wrote on an application?


I also realize that this lady is probably bat-shit crazy, so I don't think it's a complete tragedy... but it brings up some interesting philosophical questions about what it means to be black or white.


Technically it's only illegal to hire someone for being white, or fire them for not being white.

Discrimination is legal as long as a white person doesnt benefit.

[bdreason]

Or perhaps they pushed her out because she's bat shit crazy?


They didn't seem to think she was bat-shit crazy until they found out she wasn't black. From what I've read, she actually rebuilt her NAACP section from the ground up. She wasn't fired for being bad at her job, she was fired because she lied... but she lied about something that isn't supposed to matter.

[bdreason]

Technically it's only illegal to hire someone for being white, or fire them for not being white.

Discrimination is legal as long as a white person doesnt benefit.


Work discrimination is a interesting subject. For example, if you walk into a Chinese Restaurant, you'll find that most, if not all the employees are Chinese. Yet nobody ever seems to question their hiring practices. Are you telling me that not a single non-Chinese person has ever applied for a job there? Am I supposed to believe that it's a coincidence that every employee is Chinese?


Now, personally, I don't care who these people hire. However, I find it interesting that you see these work discrimination lawsuits on the news, that typically involve discrimination against a single minority... when there are literally millions of cases of work discrimination across the Country, effecting ALL races.

[NumberSix]

Work discrimination is a interesting subject. For example, if you walk into a Chinese Restaurant, you'll find that most, if not all the employees are Chinese. Yet nobody ever seems to question their hiring practices. Are you telling me that not a single non-Chinese person has ever applied for a job there? Am I supposed to believe that it's a coincidence that every employee is Chinese?


Now, personally, I don't care who these people hire. However, I find it interesting that you see these work discrimination lawsuits on the news, that typically involve discrimination against a single minority... when there are literally millions of cases of work discrimination across the Country, effecting ALL races.
In my opinion, you should be able to hire whoever you want. It's your business. You should be able to run it however you want.

[Akrazotile]

Work discrimination is a interesting subject. For example, if you walk into a Chinese Restaurant, you'll find that most, if not all the employees are Chinese. Yet nobody ever seems to question their hiring practices. Are you telling me that not a single non-Chinese person has ever applied for a job there? Am I supposed to believe that it's a coincidence that every employee is Chinese?


Now, personally, I don't care who these people hire. However, I find it interesting that you see these work discrimination lawsuits on the news, that typically involve discrimination against a single minority... when there are literally millions of cases of work discrimination across the Country, effecting ALL races.


Well most small chinese restaurants are run by immigrant families who dont speak much english. So in that instance it's probably more of a case that they wouldnt be able to communicate with any employees that dont speak chinese, and probably dont trust some stranger to have access to the cash register which is their livelyhood. At big chains like PF Changs you do get plenty of non-chinese servers certainly.

But in general youre right. For instance at grocery stores, they always have asian people at the sushi counter. And most of the time theyre not even japanese, but the stores seem to think any ol Asian will do as far as convincing customers the product is "authentic." And obviously they have plenty of non-asians throughout the rest of the store, and sushi isnt some big difficult secret to make, so its not a coincidence the asians are always put there. Theyre placed at the sushi counter for image purposes.

But again, in practice it is ONLY illegal to hire someone for being white. A black owned business would never be investigated for having a majority black staff despite how unlikely that would be to happen by coincidence given population ratios. Banks or law firms or other places could flat out come out and say "We are hiring this Arab candidate bc he's Arab and we want to embrace diversity" and the government would nod and give a big thumbs up.



Whites are literally handicapping themselves for job prospects bc politicians and business owners who want minority votes/business (many of whom dont actually care about minorities, theyre just leverage) put on a big to-do about unconditional diversity. And you have losers like deucewallace who WANT to handicap their own demographic bc he thinks it positions him as some cool, smart hero rescuer. I mean seriously if you look at far left liberals, its usually the emos, the awkwards, the skinny hipsters. The dudes who resent their place in traditional society, so they try to carve an identity as social justice warriors. But they dont go and volunteer. They dont give money. And 99% of them would happily turn conservative if you put a million dollars and the keys to a big company in THEIR pocket, but for now while theyre insecure and pathetic nobody's at home cutting their wrists, they want to posture themselves as some noble fighters for justice. But really its just a selfish act theyre putting on. Their actions speak louder than words. Just look at all the millionares chillaxin at the Warriors game tonight. Do their tax dollars go into Oakland school systems? Hell no, they stay the **** away from Oakland. Bt theyll happily tell you whom YOU have to hire, and whom you dont.

[ShackEelOKneel]

In my opinion, you should be able to hire whoever you want. It's your business. You should be able to run it however you want.

So essentially, you want to go back to the 50s when hiring based on discrimination was ok.

[Akrazotile]

So essentially, you want to go back to the 50s when hiring based on discrimination was ok.


You know people today get hired bc they went to the same school as a manager, or the same fraternity, or come from the same city, or any number of reasons completely unrelated to merit?


If someone wants to hire someone for their own business on whatever their own personal criteria is, what does it matter to you? For the most part, people are trying to make money and will hire people based ability. But if they have a particular demographic hang up for their own particular business, what does it really matter to you?

Try and explain to me why it really matters to you. Without falling back on a bunch of talking point rhetoric about how "omg racistttt!" Articulate what the big deal is about letting people hire whomever they want.

[oh the horror]

They didn't seem to think she was bat-shit crazy until they found out she wasn't black. From what I've read, she actually rebuilt her NAACP section from the ground up. She wasn't fired for being bad at her job, she was fired because she lied... but she lied about something that isn't supposed to matter.




So if you found out a person representing your organization sent herself hate mail on top of a long list of various lies along the way plus the media circus along with it, you'd be cool with her being there because she's good at her job.



Or are we all going to act aloof and try to make this a point of her simply being white?



I'm sure the plight of the white man has been rough but really?

[Dresta]

Work discrimination is a interesting subject. For example, if you walk into a Chinese Restaurant, you'll find that most, if not all the employees are Chinese. Yet nobody ever seems to question their hiring practices. Are you telling me that not a single non-Chinese person has ever applied for a job there? Am I supposed to believe that it's a coincidence that every employee is Chinese?


Now, personally, I don't care who these people hire. However, I find it interesting that you see these work discrimination lawsuits on the news, that typically involve discrimination against a single minority... when there are literally millions of cases of work discrimination across the Country, effecting ALL races.That's because the whole concept doesn't make any damn sense, and never has. It's completely unenforceable and ineffective, and more often than not results in a whole litany of frivolous lawsuits and resource wastage. Just another way for lawyers to make money off of petty issues, and for bureaucratic legal regulations to slow everything down.

These kind of policies always create more problems than there were in the first place.

[oh the horror]

Now the "we support Bruce Jenner" crowd is in full support. Apparently calling this woman brave and if she truly "FEELS" deep down like a black woman then we should all support that.



Americans are losing their minds.

[HitandRun Reggie]

The sh!t that keeps trickling in about this woman's life is gold! :roll: Talk about irony and hypocrisy....

Apparently she went to Howard University on scholarship, which is impressive in itself I would assume for a white girl(cue in someone to tell me how wrong I am), but she sued the university for allegedly discriminating against her because...she was white. :oldlol: She said she was denied a TA position because of her race. She also made a formal complaint with the university that only African American's artwork was being displayed at an exhibit, and hers wasn't allowed.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/rachel-dolezal-sued-howard-university-alleged-discrimination-favored/story?id=31787446

I'm telling you this woman is going to get a multimillion book or movie deal.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Now the "we support Bruce Jenner" crowd is in full support. Apparently calling this woman brave and if she truly "FEELS" deep down like a black woman then we should all support that.



Americans are losing their minds.

Not necessarily. I fully support Jenner, but not this woman. She is very deceitful and now is back peddling in an attempt to save face. She indicated that one of the things that makes her black is that her adopted brother called her his mom. I'm sorry, but having somebody in your family that is black, does not make you black. I have no problem with her identifying with black people, but that does not give you the right as a white person to call out Latino people for not looking ethnic enough either. She also lied about "going natural" with her hair. The whole thing was a facade and she is only saying what she is now because she was caught. Again, if she had always said that she was white and identified with black people, there would be no issue, but she is only saying that now because it is her only option to not look completely despicable.

[Heilige]

If this had been a black woman at an all-white institution, literally the only black woman there, and she had been uncovered to have portrayed herself as white just to avoid all the nuisance and potential awkwardness etc, liberals would be screaming out what a champion she was and how her business was nobody elses etc.


Wouldn't they be calling her a coon, aunt jemimah, uncle tom ,etc if she did those things?

[TheMan]

Well she quit her NAACP position today.

And in addition to possibly sending herself hate mail, she apparently denied class participation in certain minority events to light skinned Hispanics who didn't look Latino enough even though one girl was born in a Latin American country and her first language was Spanish. This lady is nuts. :oldlol:
Oddly enough, that's happened to my cousin. She's blonde with blue eyes, she was an exchange student from a Mexico City university and went to a university in Southern California
for one year. She told me that she wanted to join a Chicano/Mexican student's group but was denied entry from other students because she didn't look Latina enough :lol They told her she was practically a white girl even though she was born and raised in Mexico and her first language was Spanish. :rolleyes: One fellow student even accused her of not even being a real Mexican, he told her she was Spanish pretending to be Mexican :facepalm

[NumberSix]

Not necessarily. I fully support Jenner, but not this woman. She is very deceitful and now is back peddling in an attempt to save face. She indicated that one of the things that makes her black is that her adopted brother called her his mom. I'm sorry, but having somebody in your family that is black, does not make you black. I have no problem with her identifying with black people, but that does not give you the right as a white person to call out Latino people for not looking ethnic enough either. She also lied about "going natural" with her hair. The whole thing was a facade and she is only saying what she is now because she was caught. Again, if she had always said that she was white and identified with black people, there would be no issue, but she is only saying that now because it is her only option to not look completely despicable.
Maybe she had to be deceitful because she knew what kind of bigotry she would face if people knew she was transracial? :confusedshrug:

[HitandRun Reggie]

Oddly enough, that's happened to my cousin. She's blonde with blue eyes, she was an exchange student from a Mexico City university and went to a university in Southern California
for one year. She told me that she wanted to join a Chicano/Mexican student's group but was denied entry from other students because she didn't look Latina enough :lol They told her she was practically a white girl even though she was born and raised in Mexico and her first language was Spanish. :rolleyes: One fellow student even accused her of not even being a real Mexican, he told her she was Spanish pretending to be Mexican :facepalm

A lot of people assume that because someone looks white, their parents are white too. I know of several Latinos families with dark complected parents, that have blond haired and green eyed children.

[Patrick Chewing]

Now the "we support Bruce Jenner" crowd is in full support. Apparently calling this woman brave and if she truly "FEELS" deep down like a black woman then we should all support that.



Americans are losing their minds.


I'm glad you're not fully engulfed by the Kool-Aid out there in Liberal Land.

[TheMan]

A lot of people assume that because someone looks white, their parents are white too. I know of several Latinos families with dark complected parents, that have blond haired and green eyed children.
I have a son with green eyes, I don't look white, though some people have mistaken me for Italian or Greek. My wife is olive skinned...this whole race thing is silly, tbh. If that white lady wants to be black, who gives a fvck?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Besides, who wants to be a honkey.

[oh the horror]

I personally find her to be a con artist. And there are many examples of such. The broad is a fu*kin manipulative liar and a masterful one at that.


It's not about just "wanting to be black".

[HitandRun Reggie]

Her story keeps on getting more crazy. She had said she was born in an Indian tepee and lived in South Africa, she now admits both lies. She also says her parents probably aren't her real parents and demands a DNA test to prove it for anyone saying otherwise (now I know why they ratted her out :oldlol:).

The police have in May have accused her of harassment, misconduct and leaking private info to the public because she is part of a police oversight committee, and certain information she is privy too can only be released by the police.

And yes, she went there. She has compared herself to Bruce Jenner. :coleman: