6 for 24 is dead

[HOoopCityJones]

7 for 22?

20 pts on 20 shots.

Bron stans/Kobe haters running outta excuses as we breathe :bowdown:

[navy]

7/22 > 6/24

[Heavincent]

Shooting 39% in the series (on extremely high volume). Kobe would be getting KILLED for this. Bran does it and people are acting like he's having some amazing series.

The double standard is real.

[HOoopCityJones]

7/22 > 6/24

^ Bron stan

That's all that means. :cheers: :applause:

[Levity]

7/22 > 6/24

W > L

[Lebron23]

Shooting 39% in the series. Kobe would be getting KILLED for this. Bran does it and people are acting like he's having some amazing series.

The double standard is real.


Look at his supporting casts. He's not playing with Prime Odom and Prime Gasol.

[navy]

W > L
Fair enough. But at least wait till the series ends. :confusedshrug:

[Heavincent]

Look at his supporting casts. He's not playing with Prime Odom and Prime Gasol.

Mozgov is putting up 17/8 in this series.

[Levity]

Look at his supporting casts. He's not playing with Prime Odom and Prime Gasol.

valid point. but the cavs do have the two best big men in the series.

[G0ATbe]

This is probably his10th game in the playoffs on par with Kobe's 6/24 efficiency wise. I don't remember Kobe having such an inefficient postseason:lol

[riseagainst]

Mozgov is putting up 17/8 in this series.

gasol put up 19/12/4 with 2.6 blks a game over 7 games.

[HOoopCityJones]

Shooting 39% in the series (on extremely high volume). Kobe would be getting KILLED for this. Bran does it and people are acting like he's having some amazing series.

The double standard is real.

This is what makes it so sweet, to them Lebron is balling and to be honest most of us think so as well, but now they have to admit Kobe's game 7 was a great game. :roll:

23 pts and 15 rebounds in a game 7 Finals out rebounding a Celtics front court of Rasheed Wallace and Kevin Garnett as a SG.

[Lebron23]

valid point. but the cavs do have the two best big men in the series.


I agree with that. I blamed LeBron in Game 4. He looks tired, exhausted, and fatigued.

[imdaman99]

I just laugh when it's Lebron stans with that 6-24 taunting, as if Lebron didn't shoot 3-14 against the same team in a series changing disappointing game :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

Shooting 39% in the series (on extremely high volume). Kobe would be getting KILLED for this. Bran does it and people are acting like he's having some amazing series.

The double standard is real.

Bron is averaging 8 or 9 assists and 12 rebounds. Plus his supporting cast isn't better at least on paper, I haven't looked at the numbers.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Lmao....Kobe had a future hall-of-famer PF...who carried him to victory.


Who does Bron have?....hardly anyone knew Mozgov or Delly beofre this season

[konex]

gasol put up 19/12/4 with 2.6 blks a game over 7 games.

If GS stays small, Mozgov will have better stats by the end of this series. Pau only scored 20+ in 3 of those games IIRC

[HOoopCityJones]

No one shot particularly well in that series, especially Game 7 which was a defensive gritty game for the ages. Kobe was just as consistent throughout that series which is why he won Finals Mvp over Pau.

[SouBeachTalents]

This is what makes it so sweet, to them Lebron is balling and to be honest most of us think so as well, but now they have to admit Kobe's game 7 was a great game. :roll:

23 pts and 15 rebounds in a game 7 Finals out rebounding a Celtics front court of Rasheed Wallace and Kevin Garnett as a SG.

The difference is LeBron was averaging 40/12/8 on 40% through the first 3 games, and considering he was playing with nothing but role players and against a 67 win team, that's what made it so impressive. I don't think anybody is praising LeBron today, he had a below average game last night and was outplayed by Iggy. But you're insane to think 40/12/8 on 40%= 23/15/2 on 25% with better teammates.

[Magic 32]

But you're insane to think 40/12/8 on 40%= 23/15/2 on 25% with better teammates.

Are we talking about one game or the series here?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Look at his supporting casts. He's not playing with Prime Odom and Prime Gasol.

Gasol never put up 28 points in a Finals game. :confusedshrug:

[riseagainst]

Gasol never put up 28 points in a Finals game. :confusedshrug:

how could he when kobe is taking all the shots?

[Droid101]

But you're insane to think 40/12/8 on 40%= 23/15/2 on 25% with better teammates.
:lol Cherry picking the good Bron games but only posting one game of Kobe's?

Typical.

Also, you're insane to think L = W

[riseagainst]

:lol Cherry picking the good Bron games but only posting one game of Kobe's?

Typical.

Also, you're insane to think L = W

29-8-4, 40%FG
vs
36-12-8, 39%FG

:confusedshrug:

difference is. Kobe had Pau Gasol who is also an offensive threat. Who does Cleveland have outside of lebron? :lol

[DMAVS41]

Shooting 39% in the series (on extremely high volume). Kobe would be getting KILLED for this. Bran does it and people are acting like he's having some amazing series.

The double standard is real.

It's because Lebron is in tougher circumstances in this series than Kobe ever was in a finals...and because Lebron's impact isn't so tied to scoring the way Kobe's is.

Why do you people not grasp that Lebron does other things on the court like defend, rebound, pass, and control the game at a higher level than Kobe ever did.

I'm not even propping Lebron for this series. I've been saying his scoring efficiency is shit and it's missing the point to act like because of his offense they are winning.

But stop pretending like they are remotely the same player outside of scoring.

If they were...then this would be a bigger deal.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

29-8-4, 40%FG
vs
36-12-8, 39%FG

:confusedshrug:

difference is. Kobe had Pau Gasol who is also an offensive threat. Who does Cleveland have outside of lebron? :lol

His center just posted an efficient 28 points. What more do you want?

[branslowski]

I just laugh when it's Lebron stans with that 6-24 taunting, as if Lebron didn't shoot 3-14 against the same team in a series changing disappointing game :oldlol:

Bron stans seem to forget when Bron in Game1 vs Celtics in 07' playoffs went 2-18 fg 11% and then followed that up with a 6-24 game 2. The 6-24 jokes been dead since they first came out.:coleman:

[navy]

His center just posted an efficient 28 points. What more do you want?
lebron didnt have a good game last night. What more do you want said?

You want someone to say Kobe played well in that game 7 finals at home? Is that how low your standards are for Kobe?

[riseagainst]

His center just posted an efficient 28 points. What more do you want?

so Mozgov is suddenly better than prime Gasol because of 1 game?

[navy]

so Mozgov is suddenly better than prime Gasol because of 1 game?
Yes. It's called the Lebron effect.

[SouBeachTalents]

:lol Cherry picking the good Bron games but only posting one game of Kobe's?

Typical.

Also, you're insane to think L = W

Lol, did you read his post?


This is what makes it so sweet, to them Lebron is balling and to be honest most of us think so as well, but now they have to admit Kobe's game 7 was a great game. :roll:

23 pts and 15 rebounds in a game 7 Finals out rebounding a Celtics front court of Rasheed Wallace and Kevin Garnett as a SG.

He was saying since LeBron was getting so much credit in this series through the first 3 games, Kobe's Game 7 should be considered great as well. So yes, 40/12/8 40% >>>>> 23/15/2 25%.

And yes, Kobe won, but people will never seem to accept that basketball is a team game. Would you really apply that argument to say Kobe's Game 7 was better than Jordan's 63 point game simply because he won and Jordan lost?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

so Mozgov is suddenly better than prime Gasol because of 1 game?

It's just silly to complain about the lack of big men "help" on offense when your boy's "nonhelp" outscored Gasol's career high in the Finals his fourth time on the floor. :confusedshrug:

[Inferno]

Shooting 39% in the series (on extremely high volume). Kobe would be getting KILLED for this. Bran does it and people are acting like he's having some amazing series.

The double standard is real.

True

[Droid101]

Bron stans seem to forget when Bron in Game1 vs Celtics in 07' playoffs went 2-18 fg 11% and then followed that up with a 6-24 game 2. The 6-24 jokes been dead since they first came out.:coleman:
This. It has always been retarded and will always be retarded. It's a quick way to spot an idiot though, so that's nice.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Plebs, settle down.

Duncan > both.

[DetroitPistonFan]

Look at his supporting casts. He's not playing with Prime Odom and Prime Gasol.
Yes a prime Pau and prime Odom who both sucked offensively in the Finals series against the Celtics. Just like LeBron's teammates who suck offensively.

[funnystuff]

Kobe is trash in elimination games and Lebron isnt. This was a game 4, Kobe shot 6/24 in a game 7. Thats horrible, Pau got robbed of FMVP in 2010 and non kobe jockers all see that.

[Magic 32]

Kobe is trash in elimination games and Lebron isnt. This was a game 4, Kobe shot 6/24 in a game 7. Thats horrible, Pau got robbed of FMVP in 2010 and non kobe jockers all see that.

All those word yet so few facts.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

All those word yet so few facts.

He's actually right about elimination games/game 7s. (http://swishnba.com/2013/10/11/kobe-vs-lebron-whos-more-clutch/)

Don't agree on his last point, one bad scoring game doesn't negate the rest of the series.

[Braincells]

It doesn't matter how many times you shoot. It's the W that counts the most. No one is going to remember 6/24 because the Lakers won. Did People remember Jordan's 5/19 in the 96 finals? No, they just remember that he won. Same thing with Lebron if he manages to win with these guys. Winning is everything.

[Magic 32]

He's actually right about elimination games/game 7s. (http://swishnba.com/2013/10/11/kobe-vs-lebron-whos-more-clutch/)

Don't agree on his last point, one bad scoring game doesn't negate the rest of the series.

Playing this helps....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqpF1COUzoU

[SouBeachTalents]

It doesn't matter how many times you shoot. It's the W that counts the most. No one is going to remember 6/24 because the Lakers won. Did People remember Jordan's 5/19 in the 96 finals? No, they just remember that he won. Same thing with Lebron if he manages to win with these guys. Winning is everything.

Says this in a thread titled "6 for 24" written 5 years after that game happened

[riseagainst]

will ring number 6 for number 24 ever happen?

or will he just shoot 6 for 24 again?

[Wade's Rings]

Kobe is trash in elimination games and Lebron isnt. This was a game 4, Kobe shot 6/24 in a game 7. Thats horrible, Pau got robbed of FMVP in 2010 and non kobe jockers all see that.

It wasn't an Elimination Game but yesterdays Game 4 was still very important. They have a chance to go up 3-1 which seals their championship aspirations. Again, not an elimination Game but with a Win yesterday the Title goes to the Cavs.

[Braincells]

Says this in a thread titled "6 for 24" written 5 years after that game happened

Context matters. OP is bringing it up because it's relevant to what Lebron is doing at the moment.

I'm also talking about the masses and not the hardcore fans on the site.

[TMacYaoRockets]

Kobe is trash in elimination games and Lebron isnt. This was a game 4, Kobe shot 6/24 in a game 7. Thats horrible, Pau got robbed of FMVP in 2010 and non kobe jockers all see that.
Pau didn't do so great offensively in the Finals and you want him to be Finals MVP?

[Derka]

Math isn't your strong suit.

[sd3035]

Lebald went 2-18 with 10 turnovers against the Celtics in the Eastern Conference semis :roll: :roll: :roll:

[chazzy]

2010 Finals - 53 TS%
2015 Finals - 47 TS%

[Doranku]

2010 Finals - 53 TS%
2015 Finals - 47 TS%
:oldlol:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

2010 Finals - 53 TS%
2015 Finals - 47 TS%

2007 Finals -43 TS%

[sixer6ad]

Any legitimate, real basketball fan who would get rid of hate and opinion would call this performance one of the greatest of all time. Rough game last night? Of course. But...if you can't come on ISH and say what he is doing this series is amazing, you're not here for discussion of a game or series, you're here to hate. It's that simple.

Those of us that realize history is being made need to remain unemotional about hatred and just enjoy these games.

I will trust people like Doug Collins and other NBA experts in their continued praise.

[riseagainst]

only kobe stans would make fun of this performance.
Fact is, what lebron is currently doing is greater than anything kobe has ever done.

:oldlol:

[Rocketswin2013]

It's because Lebron is in tougher circumstances in this series than Kobe ever was in a finals...and because Lebron's impact isn't so tied to scoring the way Kobe's is.

Why do you people not grasp that Lebron does other things on the court like defend, rebound, pass, and control the game at a higher level than Kobe ever did.

I'm not even propping Lebron for this series. I've been saying his scoring efficiency is shit and it's missing the point to act like because of his offense they are winning.

But stop pretending like they are remotely the same player outside of scoring.

If they were...then this would be a bigger deal.
This.

[BBallZen83]

I agree to a point with the OP. Everything needs to be given context though, like it rarely ever is. Lebron obviously doesn't want to be shooting high volume, but he just kind of has to cause he doesn't have a legitimate 2nd and 3rd option any more. This is where I feel like he differs from Kobe. I feel that there have been many times where Kobe is trying to prove a point with his shooting instead of just doing whatever the team needs.

NOW i'm not saying that is what he did in game 7 against the Celtics. Obviously no one was shooting good, and he did grab crucial boards and hit freethrows late, and was just trying to do anything to get the W. Unlike other times where he was trying to prove some kind of point because of his ego like against Detroit in 04.

[Doranku]

Any legitimate, real basketball fan who would get rid of hate and opinion would call this performance one of the greatest of all time. Rough game last night? Of course. But...if you can't come on ISH and say what he is doing this series is amazing, you're not here for discussion of a game or series, you're here to hate. It's that simple.

Those of us that realize history is being made need to remain unemotional about hatred and just enjoy these games.

I will trust people like Doug Collins and other NBA experts in their continued praise.

It was up until last game. He was flat out awful last night. If he continues to play like that in Games 5 and 6 and the Cavs end up losing in 6, there will be nothing all-time great or historic about this series for Bron Bron. :(

Sucks for you guys, looked like he might do the impossible and pull off one of the biggest upsets of all time while posting a stat-line never seen before in the finals. Oh well!

[Shih508]

Matter of the fact, if Kobe is leading this squad against 67win Warriors, Kobe's team would have little chance to even win a game let alone two. Kobe can't do nothing without great supports and it's a fact. Therefore it doesn't matter what fg% Lebron is shooting since he alrdy won two games in this series.

Lebron > Kobe !!!

Kobe #11 greatest of all time soon to be 12 when KD gets healthy

[Ca$H]

Ayotunde is dead? RIP my African Nikka. :cry:

[DMAVS41]

Any legitimate, real basketball fan who would get rid of hate and opinion would call this performance one of the greatest of all time. Rough game last night? Of course. But...if you can't come on ISH and say what he is doing this series is amazing, you're not here for discussion of a game or series, you're here to hate. It's that simple.

Those of us that realize history is being made need to remain unemotional about hatred and just enjoy these games.

I will trust people like Doug Collins and other NBA experts in their continued praise.


It's really not one of the greatest though. He's playing great overall and he's clearly been the best player in this series, but this is absolutely not 4 of the greatest games in finals history.

Just look objectively at it.

In the first 3 games the Warriors essentially singled Lebron and left defenders on an island. This is unusual to say the least, but even more unusual is they let him back his man down for 3 to 5 seconds at a time without help.

He simply did not score all that great outside of game 1.

Also, his late game play has been brutal. He's not doing anything of note late in these games.

His defense has been tremendous and he's working his ass off on the glass.

Overall great performance so far? Sure, but it's not historic by any means...

[SouBeachTalents]

It's really not one of the greatest though. He's playing great overall and he's clearly been the best player in this series, but this is absolutely not 4 of the greatest games in finals history.

Just look objectively at it.

In the first 3 games the Warriors essentially singled Lebron and left defenders on an island. This is unusual to say the least, but even more unusual is they let him back his man down for 3 to 5 seconds at a time without help.

He simply did not score all that great outside of game 1.

Also, his late game play has been brutal. He's not doing anything of note late in these games.

His defense has been tremendous and he's working his ass off on the glass.

Overall great performance so far? Sure, but it's not historic by any means...

It's not historic just in the numbers and production, it's the fact he's leading a team with nothing but role players to a current series tie against a 67 win team with the MVP and several All-NBA/All-Defensive team players. If he plays close to the level he was at in the first 3 games for the rest of the series and the Cavs win it'd be one of the all time performances in NBA history, if not sports history

[Droid101]

It's not historic just in the numbers and production, it's the fact he's leading a team with nothing but role players to a current series tie against a 67 win team with the MVP and several All-NBA/All-Defensive team players. If he plays close to the level he was at in the first 3 games for the rest of the series and the Cavs win it'd be one of the all time performances in NBA history, if not sports history
Please slowly slide your lips off LeBron's historically tiny dick. Take your time, we don't want either of you to get hurt.

[DMAVS41]

It's not historic just in the numbers and production, it's the fact he's leading a team with nothing but role players to a current series tie against a 67 win team with the MVP and several All-NBA/All-Defensive team players. If he plays close to the level he was at in the first 3 games for the rest of the series and the Cavs win it'd be one of the all time performances in NBA history, if not sports history

If they win it and he plays great? Absolutely.

But it's now officially make or break time for this stuff. The Warriors played like ass in games 2 and almost all of game 3. Give Lebron/Cavs credit, but the truth is the Warriors just played poorly on their own. Barnes and Green were awful and Curry had the worst 6 qtr stretch of the season.

It's not all the Cavs.

I totally agree that if he pulls this off and manages two great games and he wins this series it will be deserving of all time great status.

But as of now? It's just not deserving of that. Honestly, right now it just looks like the Warriors had a rough 6 qtr stretch and if they play well...they'll win the series going away.

Clearly anything can happen, but there is no doubt the Warriors are much better and if they play at all close to their level....they'll destroy this Cavs team with Lebron scoring so poorly.

[tpols]

It's not historic just in the numbers and production, it's the fact he's leading a team with nothing but role players to a current series tie against a 67 win team with the MVP and several All-NBA/All-Defensive team players. If he plays close to the level he was at in the first 3 games for the rest of the series and the Cavs win it'd be one of the all time performances in NBA history, if not sports history

Thompson/Mozgov combo have destroyed the the "all defensive/allstar" frontcourt of Bogut/Green. They are shitting on them... bron isnt making thompson rebound at all time levels. He gives him extra opportunities, kobe assists if you will, but thats the same thing that was always dismissed by bron fans for Kobe so...

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Ayotunde is dead? RIP my African Nikka. :cry:

:oldlol:

Such a funny gimmick.

[Xiengqichess]

Matter of the fact, if Kobe is leading this squad against 67win Warriors, Kobe's team would have little chance to even win a game let alone two. Kobe can't do nothing without great supports and it's a fact. Therefore it doesn't matter what fg% Lebron is shooting since he alrdy won two games in this series.

Lebron > Kobe !!!



Kobe #11 greatest of all time soon to be 12 when KD gets healthy


Kobe took Luke Walton, Smush, Kwanne Brown to 3-1 lead with the Sun. Kobe outscored a final team by himself through 3 quarters.

[6 for 24]

Ayotunde is dead? RIP my African Nikka. :cry:

Not to worry, this posting is a fallacy. Not only am I alive and well, but so too are hopes for title #6 for #24!

I haven't been posting as often, frankly, because I am quite preoccupied. As many of you know, I and my fellow Kobe stans have a case of "Sudden Onset of Diehard Oakland MYopia", or SODOMY. I happen to know (from information posted in a bathroom here) that kennethgriffin, 98empiree, and many others are also practicing SODOMY and frankly, I am impressed they have the stamina to keep it up while ALSO continuously posting here. Kenneth in particular is a true champion, having time to engage in SODOMY as well as post several threads featuring Lebron "dick pics", although I guess the two aren't mutually exclusive. Keep up the good fight boys!

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

[CarlosBoozer]

He's alive :biggums:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

:bowdown:

[HOoopCityJones]

That shit is stale

[Lebron23]

Not to worry, this posting is a fallacy. Not only am I alive and well, but so too are hopes for title #6 for #24!

I haven't been posting as often, frankly, because I am quite preoccupied. As many of you know, I and my fellow Kobe stans have a case of "Sudden Onset of Diehard Oakland MYopia", or SODOMY. I happen to know (from information posted in a bathroom here) that kennethgriffin, 98empiree, and many others are also practicing SODOMY and frankly, I am impressed they have the stamina to keep it up while ALSO continuously posting here. Kenneth in particular is a true champion, having time to engage in SODOMY as well as post several threads featuring Lebron "dick pics", although I guess the two aren't mutually exclusive. Keep up the good fight boys!

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye


:applause: :applause: :applause:

[KG215]

2010 Finals - 53 TS%
2015 Finals - 47 TS%
Yeah, don't know why we have to just focus on FG%. Kobe was still a more efficient player because LeBron has been really, really bad from the 3P line in the playoffs, and he's an average FT shooter. Kobe shot 37% from 3 on 6 attempts per game in the 2010 playoffs and 84% from the FT line on 8 attempts per game. LeBron on the other hand is shooting 22% from 3 on 5 attempts per game and 74% from the FT line on 8 attempts per game.

You can't look just at FG% in this instance. Not when Kobe shot 15% better from 3 on one more attempt per game and 10% better from the FT line on the same number of attempts per game in the playoffs. That's how you get the discrepancy in Kobe's 2010 playoff TS% and LeBron's 2015 playoff TS%. Kobe's TS% in the 2010 playoffs was 56.7%. LeBron's TS% in these playoffs is 48.7%. Kobe was, by considerable amount, a more efficient player in the 2010 playoffs than LeBron has been in these playoffs.

[jstern]

Not to worry, this posting is a fallacy. Not only am I alive and well, but so too are hopes for title #6 for #24!

I haven't been posting as often, frankly, because I am quite preoccupied. As many of you know, I and my fellow Kobe stans have a case of "Sudden Onset of Diehard Oakland MYopia", or SODOMY. I happen to know (from information posted in a bathroom here) that kennethgriffin, 98empiree, and many others are also practicing SODOMY and frankly, I am impressed they have the stamina to keep it up while ALSO continuously posting here. Kenneth in particular is a true champion, having time to engage in SODOMY as well as post several threads featuring Lebron "dick pics", although I guess the two aren't mutually exclusive. Keep up the good fight boys!

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye

This guy is pretty good. I'm glad he's still alive. Hope the sodomy gets better.

[sportjames23]

Not to worry, this posting is a fallacy. Not only am I alive and well, but so too are hopes for title #6 for #24!

I haven't been posting as often, frankly, because I am quite preoccupied. As many of you know, I and my fellow Kobe stans have a case of "Sudden Onset of Diehard Oakland MYopia", or SODOMY. I happen to know (from information posted in a bathroom here) that kennethgriffin, 98empiree, and many others are also practicing SODOMY and frankly, I am impressed they have the stamina to keep it up while ALSO continuously posting here. Kenneth in particular is a true champion, having time to engage in SODOMY as well as post several threads featuring Lebron "dick pics", although I guess the two aren't mutually exclusive. Keep up the good fight boys!

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[konex]

Matter of the fact, if Kobe is leading this squad against 67win Warriors, Kobe's team would have little chance to even win a game let alone two.

Wrong. Kobe can shoot a ton without being gassed in the 4th cos his game isn't all driving to the hoop. The 2006 Suns team is a good comparison to this GS team and Kobe nearly beat them with a much worse cast than Bron has now...

[aj1987]

Wrong. Kobe can shoot a ton without being gassed in the 4th cos his game isn't all driving to the hoop. The 2006 Suns team is a good comparison to this GS team and Kobe nearly beat them with a much worse cast than Bron has now...
The '06 Suns were 16th defensively and the current Warriors are 1st.