Can Nash Ball or D'Antoni offense capable of winning a championship??

[Lebron23]

The closest thing to an NBA Championship for them was back in the 2007 NBA Season when Nash, and Amare were at the Peak and Prime of their NBA Career. NBA suspends Stoudemire, Diaw for leaving bench, and the Spurs won that series.

The No Defense System turned Nash from an NBA All Star to an NBA Superstar.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Not with the defense Nash was playing. They already had the most stacked/talented roster for years and couldnt win, says alot

[Rocketswin2013]

I'd say 2010 was closer for "Nash ball", Kobe threw up a horrible brick in that crucial WCF Game 5 and Artest saved the day. That game was really close.

[Mrofir]

Nash could have won a championship under the right circumstances. But it didn't happen.

the suspension was probably the first outside influence, but there is also the joe johnson orbital injury in 05, amare's microfracture, and a few freak plays in 2010.

Although in 2010 that team shouldn't have even sniffed the wcf

[Lebron23]

Not with the defense Nash was playing. They already had the most stacked/talented roster for years and couldnt win, says alot


http://www.nba.com/media/suns/fantastic_four_800.jpg

[Lebron23]

Nash could have won a championship under the right circumstances. But it didn't happen.

the suspension was probably the first outside influence, but there is also the joe johnson orbital injury in 05, amare's microfracture, and a few freak plays in 2010.

Although in 2010 that team shouldn't have even sniffed the wcf


Nash should have been more Alpha. When Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, and even Parker won their championship. They led their teams in scoring, and they played good defense.

Nash was a so so defender.

[Mrofir]

http://www.nba.com/media/suns/fantastic_four_800.jpg



That team had Amare in his 3rd season, JJ in his 4th season, and even Marion was only in his 6th season.


They had one season to put it together. JJ didn't play in the playoff series they lost.

That team would have won a championship if they had stayed together.

[Mrofir]

Alpha.


:facepalm


that's my cue to check other threads

[SHAQisGOAT]

Nash should have been more Alpha. When Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, and even Parker won their championship. They led their teams in scoring, and they played good defense.

Nash was a so so defender.

What?

Only one who you could make a case for ->good<- defense would probably be Zeke and even so...

Nash wasn't even what you'd call a so so defender.

[Fallen Angel]

2006-2007:

Steve Nash-Leonardo Barbosa
Raja Bell
Shawn Marion-James Jones
Boris Diaw
Amare Stoudimire-Kurt Thomas

That 8 man rotation could make the Playoffs in the West, probably win or be 2nd in their division. Come playoff time you'd see a lot of Hack-a-Player strategy because this crop of players cannot contain Deandre Jordan and Dwight Howard on the offensive glass. Hacking players completely slows the tempo of games and I'm not confident that this Suns team (who is dependent on jumpers) could stay in rhythm, outside of Steve Nash. They really lack the size to compete with the centers in the West.

[SHAQisGOAT]

the suspension was probably the first outside influence, but there is also the joe johnson orbital injury in 05, amare's microfracture, and a few freak plays in 2010.

^This

Steve didn't play D but that wasn't the "issue" when you look at how those teams were constructed and what happened (the stuff above)... Let's not act like his defense was the reason why they didn't win or even close to it, let's not act like he was a center down the middle, supposed to protect the paint or something along those lines.

[Lebron23]

2006-2007:

Steve Nash-Leonardo Barbosa
Raja Bell
Shawn Marion-James Jones
Boris Diaw
Amare Stoudimire-Kurt Thomas

That 8 man rotation could make the Playoffs in the West, probably win or be 2nd in their division. Come playoff time you'd see a lot of Hack-a-Player strategy because this crop of players cannot contain Deandre Jordan and Dwight Howard on the offensive glass. Hacking players completely slows the tempo of games and I'm not confident that this Suns team (who is dependent on jumpers) could stay in rhythm, outside of Steve Nash. They really lack the size to compete with the centers in the West.

This

Best posts so far in this thread. Warriors have the same problems, but at least they are still a great defensive team even when their offense isn't clicking.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Doesn't it speak volumes about how good Nash is as a player that all of Dantonis other teams with the Knicks or the Laker either got destroyed in the play offs or didnt even make the play off's?

[Lebron23]

Doesn't it speak volumes about how good Nash is as a player that all of Dantonis other teams with the Knicks or the Laker either got destroyed in the play offs or didnt even make the play off's?


He's the poster boy of the D'Antoni Offense. And you need a great point guard like Nash in order for the system to be effective.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

He's the poster boy of the D'Antoni Offense. And you need a great point guard like Nash in order for the system to be effective.
Nah man Nash was just an astounding PG surrounded by explosive finishers. Dantoni is a drug addicted that hasn't accomplished anything in the realm of basketball without Steve Nash on his team. He coached Melo and Amare in New York and resigned by his own free will when he realized the team wasn't going to make the play off's.

[brain drain]

Doesn't it speak volumes about how good Nash is as a player that all of Dantonis other teams with the Knicks or the Laker either got destroyed in the play offs or didnt even make the play off's?

Yeah but on the other hand, Nash without D'Antoni's system and Amare / Marion etc. was also not on the same level.

IMO, it was a perfect fit for all involved. Everybody looked better than they would have anywhere else.

And as to the original question: I think they were perfectly capable of winning a championship, but the stars never aligned quite right. Similar to Sacramento before them. But in a way, it doesn't really matter. Ring or not, the way they played basketball was more interesting and did more for the league than some other teams that did win the championship. Again, similar to Sac before them.

[TheReal Kendall]

Seems like OP just wanna shit on Nash.

Nash was good when he played for the Mavs too so it wasn't Dantoni.

That avi is pretty creepy OP