Why Dennis rodman didn't get pick in the all star game when he played for the Bulls??

[Lebron23]

He was leading the NBA in rebounds per game from 1996 to 1998. He missed several games in 1996 and 1997, but he played 80 games in 1998. Did the NBA coaches hate him?? He was kinda very popular during that time.

http://www.sportsblink.com/product_images/dennis-rodman-chicago-bulls-black-action-autographed-photograph-3342726.jpg

[TheMarkMadsen]

TNT and TBS aired the all star game and they also aired Nitro at the time

Rodman was NWO 4 Lyfe and rumor has it that Turner didn't want to take the chance of the NWO showing up at the ASG and destroying MJ with the atomic leg drop/outsiders edge on his station in classic NWO double turn fashion

hope that helps man

[SamuraiSWISH]

Because he was an amazing defensive ROLE PLAYER

[Lebron23]

TNT and TBS aired the all star game and they also aired Nitro at the time

Rodman was NWO 4 Lyfe and rumor has it that Turner didn't want to take the chance of the NWO showing up at the ASG and destroying MJ with the atomic leg drop/outsiders edge on his station in classic NWO double turn fashion

hope that helps man


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Because he was an amazing defensive ROLE PLAYER


Fans love his antics. He was more exciting than Current Kawhi Leonard.

[Cleverness]

Because he was an amazing defensive ROLE PLAYER

Was he more than this when he was selected to the ASG twice with Detroit?

His numbers were better with Chicago, too.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

back then all star games was all about offensive players. It wasn't until Ben Wallace got selected then more defensive players got recognized.

[KembaWalker]

TNT and TBS aired the all star game and they also aired Nitro at the time

Rodman was NWO 4 Lyfe and rumor has it that Turner didn't want to take the chance of the NWO showing up at the ASG and destroying MJ with the atomic leg drop/outsiders edge on his station in classic NWO double turn fashion

hope that helps man

yoooooo :roll: :applause:

[masonanddixon]

You were probably like two years old when Rodman was a Bull but he was nowhere near All Star level during that time. It would be like saying PJ Tucker should be an all star.

[SHAQisGOAT]

back then all star games was all about offensive players. It wasn't until Ben Wallace got selected then more defensive players got recognized.

Tbh, Rodman was an all-star in 1990 and 1992.

You're easily stretching it...
Dudes like Mark Eaton, Bobby Jones, Don Buse, Lonnie Shelton, Mo Cheeks, Lionel Hollins, Van Lier, Bill Briges... Were all-stars at some point, not saying plenty weren't even pretty good in other areas too (some efficient scoring, rebounding, passing...) but they were all great defensive players in their prime and that was mostly their bread-n-butter, what they were mostly "known" for.



You were probably like two years old when Rodman was a Bull but he was nowhere near All Star level during that time. It would be like saying PJ Tucker should be an all star.

:rolleyes:

Yea, you're going way too far...


Bit off-topic:

Just realized the other day that Rodman shot 101 threes in 1992, making 32 of them... That's 31.7% on 1.2 attempts.
Now, he was never a complete inept shooter or something, he could hit jumpers here and there when left wide-open, he brought some solid, efficient from the field scoring in his younger years, but I didn't recall him having that type of decent shooting season from 3pt-land.
And that's with scoring 9.8 PPG on 53.9% from the field, to go along with 18.7 RPG (easily led the league), 2.3 APG, almost 1 steal/block per game, and ofc that tremendous, extremely versatile m2m defense. 10th in MVP voting that year.

[L.Kizzle]

Because forwards like Jayson Williams, Antoine Walker, Christian Laettner, Vin Baker and Juwon Howard were easily better.

[Dro]

You were probably like two years old when Rodman was a Bull but he was nowhere near All Star level during that time. It would be like saying PJ Tucker should be an all star.
You say the dumbest sh*t...I'm going to assume all of your posts are trolling from now on.......

[iamgine]

Because they already had Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in the ASG.

[3ball]

Rodman won his back-to-back DPOY awards (1990, 1991) as a SF.

At that time, Rodman was elite at defending both the interior (Barkley, Malone) and the perimeter (Dominique, Pippen, MJ, Drexler).. Later in his career as a Spur and Bull, he played PF.. By then he was a slower player who ONLY guarded the interior.. That's the difference.

Here are several 3 minute videos highighting all the possessions Rodman guarded MJ in the 1989 ECF (6 videos for the 6 games):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Z2vU7TDh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5hlC8hN3B0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXanXLkiz70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3pm_igVqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtPVBkcCE8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOzBnzgk4E


Here's a thread showing GIF's of 28 field goals made by MJ when guarded heads-up by Rodman:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11468594&postcount=4

[SamuraiSWISH]

Was he more than this when he was selected to the ASG twice with Detroit?

His numbers were better with Chicago, too.
His rebound numbers, yes, but when he played SF for the back to back Pistons he was a better PLAYER. He wasn't obsessed exclusively with rebounds at the expense of everything else. He could defend perimeter players, and low block players at an equally high level. He couldn't do that as a Bull. Or even in San Antonio.

[Jameerthefear]

The media didn't want to expose MJ. Having that much talent on the team would expose MJ so hard he'd retire.

[97 bulls]

His rebound numbers, yes, but when he played SF for the back to back Pistons he was a better PLAYER. He wasn't obsessed exclusively with rebounds at the expense of everything else. He could defend perimeter players, and low block players at an equally high level. He couldn't do that as a Bull. Or even in San Antonio.
How do you know this???? Even in his mid 30s Phil Jackson called Rodman the greatest athlete he ever coached. Do you think that perhaps he didnt defend perimeter players in San Antonio simply because of the role that his coaches asked him to play????

And why would he need to defend perimeter players in Chicago?????? The Bulls had arguably the top two greatest perimeter defenders ever in Pippen and Jordan. And two more damn good defenders in Ron Harper and Randy Brown. And needed a PF.




http://www.slamonline.com/nba/zen-master-on-rodman-greatest-athlete-he-ever-coached/
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Phil-Jackson-Rodman-is-the-greatest-athlete-I-v?urn=nba,103886

[3ball]

Even in his mid 30s Phil Jackson called Rodman the greatest athlete he ever coached.


Just look at the video footage - Rodman is clearly much quicker as a 26-year old, small forward DPOY, than he ever was as a 35 year-old power forward for the Bulls in 1997, when he averaged 3 PPG and 7 RPG for the entire playoffs.

Here are several short videos showing the possessions that Rodman guarded MJ in the 1989 ECF (6 videos for the 6 games) - Rodman is clearly a different player than he was later in his career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Z2vU7TDh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5hlC8hN3B0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXanXLkiz70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3pm_igVqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtPVBkcCE8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOzBnzgk4E


Here's a thread showing GIF's of 28 field goals made by MJ when guarded heads-up by Rodman:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11468594&postcount=4
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[97 bulls]

Just look at the video footage - Rodman is clearly much quicker as a 26-year old, small forward DPOY, than he ever was as a 35 year-old power forward for the Bulls in 1997, when he averaged 3 PPG and 7 RPG for the entire playoffs.

Here are several 3 minute videos of the possessions Rodman guarded MJ in the 1989 ECF (6 videos for the 6 games) - Rodman is clearly a different player than he was later in his career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Z2vU7TDh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5hlC8hN3B0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXanXLkiz70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3pm_igVqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtPVBkcCE8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOzBnzgk4E


Here's a thread showing GIF's of 28 field goals made by MJ when guarded heads-up by Rodman:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11468594&postcount=4
What does this have to do with rather or not he was capable of defending the perimeter with San Antonio and Chicago????? It had nothing to do with whether or not he could do it. And everything to do with what his team needed him to do.

I showed you links in which Jackson plainly stated Rodman was the greatest athlete he ever coached. He got Rodman in his mid 30s. How can you answer this???????

[SHAQisGOAT]

How do you know this???? Even in his mid 30s Phil Jackson called Rodman the greatest athlete he ever coached. Do you think that perhaps he didnt defend perimeter players in San Antonio simply because of the role that his coaches asked him to play????

And why would he need to defend perimeter players in Chicago?????? The Bulls had arguably the top two greatest perimeter defenders ever in Pippen and Jordan. And two more damn good defenders in Ron Harper and Randy Brown. And needed a PF.




http://www.slamonline.com/nba/zen-master-on-rodman-greatest-athlete-he-ever-coached/
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Phil-Jackson-Rodman-is-the-greatest-athlete-I-v?urn=nba,103886

:rolleyes:

He was in his mid30's with the Bulls and considerably heavier... Still a great defensive player, a beast of a rebounder, better to defend the post, but couldn't guard dudes on the perimeter not even that close to his best, younger days.
At his peak (around the time he was winning dpoy) he couldn't guard the post as well as in his later years - nor them very big players - but still very good at it and considerably better on the perimeter.
He was also a more productive offensive player earlier on, even though he had better passing (mainly outlet) with the Bulls.

[97 bulls]

:rolleyes:

He was in his mid30's with the Bulls and considerably heavier... Still a great defensive player, a beast of a rebounder, better to defend the post, but couldn't guard dudes on the perimeter not even that close to his best, younger days.
At his peak (around the time he was winning dpoy) he couldn't guard the post as well as in his later years - nor them very big players - but still very good at it and considerably better on the perimeter.
He was also a more productive offensive player earlier on, even though he had better passing (mainly outlet) with the Bulls.
Dude. Dennis Rodman was a freak athlete. Thats how he dominated the game. Jackson.said he was the best hes ever coached. Not seen, but coached. Kobe Bryant agreed. The man was a machine.

You guys are acting as if he couldn't do this when you have no clear proof. Other than his age. And I just refuted it. I firmly believe he still would've been a great perimeter defender even in his mid 30s if his coaches asked him.

[97 bulls]

If Rodman wanted to, he could've easily averaged 13/19 quite a few times in his career he CHOSE not to because he knew what his team needed to be successful.

[3ball]

Jackson said Rodman was the best athlete hes ever coached. Not seen, but coached.


Phil said Rodman was the best athlete because Rodman was just THAT great an athlete in this 30's.

But he was even more athletic in his pre-Bull days of the late 80's and early 90's, when he played SF (not PF), guarded the best perimeter players in the game, won 2 DPOY's and made 2 All-Star teams.
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[DonDadda59]

The media didn't want to expose MJ. Having that much talent on the team would expose MJ so hard he'd retire.

The 2014 East All Stars.

http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/up/2014/02/images/2014-eastern-conference-all-stars.jpg

See if you can spot the guys Bron didn't have as teammates that calendar year.

[GimmeThat]

that's like asking the question as to why Dennis Rodman wasn't given the lifetime achievement award After winning the DPOY early on in his career and now on a championship caliber team, on his way to the hall of fame.

it's a good question.



he was old when he was on the Bull's squad, wasn't he?

[97 bulls]

Phil said Rodman was the best athlete because Rodman was just THAT great an athlete in this 30's.

But he was even more athletic in his pre-Bull days of the late 80's and early 90's, when he played SF (not PF), guarded the best perimeter players in the game, won 2 DPOY's and made 2 All-Star teams.
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He plainly said Rodman was the best athlete hes ever coached. Thats including prime Jordan, prime Pippen, and prime Bryant. I find it hard to believe that he would say that, but still not be able to be good enough athletically to be a lockdown perimeter defensive player.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Dude. Dennis Rodman was a freak athlete. Thats how he dominated the game. Jackson.said he was the best hes ever coached. Not seen, but coached. Kobe Bryant agreed. The man was a machine.

You guys are acting as if he couldn't do this when you have no clear proof. Other than his age. And I just refuted it. I firmly believe he still would've been a great perimeter defender even in his mid 30s if his coaches asked him.

Never said he wasn't a freak athlete, he clearly was... But, again, by that time he was 35 years old, considerably heavier - which also enabled him to hang (better) with the Shaq's and Karl Malone's - and couldn't guard the perimeter close to as he did before, don't kid yourself, he didn't have close to the same type of quickness on the perimeter as before. Better at guarding the post? Definitely, but before he could also do that (not as effective) while being terrific on the perimeter.

What clear proof do you have then? Show us footage of Rodman guarding dudes LIKE Jordan, Bird, Magic, Ricky Pierce, Vandeweghe, Person, English... on the perimeter as he had done before, or even close to the same level as before.
We can say that you can't show stuff like that, we can say that he didn't have the same "perimeter athleticism" as before (which is natural under those "circumstances"), while all you got to say is that coaches didn't ask him to :rolleyes:

[97 bulls]

Never said he wasn't a freak athlete, he clearly was... But, again, by that time he was 35 years old, considerably heavier - which also enabled him to hang (better) with the Shaq's and Karl Malone's - and couldn't guard the perimeter close to as he did before, don't kid yourself, he didn't have close to the same type of quickness on the perimeter as before. Better at guarding the post? Definitely, but before he could also do that (not as effective) while being terrific on the perimeter.

What clear proof do you have then? Show us footage of Rodman guarding dudes LIKE Jordan, Bird, Magic, Ricky Pierce, Vandeweghe, Person, English... on the perimeter as he had done before, or even close to the same level as before.
We can say that you can't show stuff like that, we can say that he didn't have the same "perimeter athleticism" as before (which is natural under those "circumstances"), while all you got to say is that coaches didn't ask him to :rolleyes:
I cant show him guarding the players you listed because he didnt. Now show me proof that he couldn't smart guy. My point still stands that Jackson said hes the greatest athlete he ever coached. He coached Rodman at 33, 34, and 35. He had Jordan, Pippen, and Bryant in their primes as well. Meaning he coached all the guys. So what hes saying is Rodman, even at that stage in his career and heavier, was a better athlete than Jordan, Bryant, and Pippen. Three sensational athletes. Now is it unreasonable to believe that based on what Phil Jackson said (and mind you what agends would he have for saying such) that Rodman even in his mid 30s couldnt have still been a great perimeter defender because even at that age he was still ultra athletic, have amazing stamina, the IQ, and the drive to still be a great defender????

I mean these guys are saying he couldn't defend the perimeter. Why????? Who lit him up like that? Even more was it done on a consistent basis??????

3Ball is showing videos of him defending Jordan in the late 80s. Why????? It has nothing to do with Rodman as a Bulls or a Spur.