Steph Curry in Finals. 29 assists 25 turnovers

[Jon_Koncak]

Steph Curry is an amazing scorer,the best shooter the NBA has ever seen.But he is a mediocre playmaker,i cant imagine Nash or Paul having this kind of terrible ass/to ratio.No surprise coach K had Kyrie and Harden playing as main distributors in team USA and using Steph strictly as an off the ball shooter.

[coin24]

Double teamed all game, still beasting:bowdown:

[deja vu]

He's not a point guard who happens to be a great shooter. He's a great shooter who happens to be a point guard.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

He has a 103 ORTG against the 18th ranked defense:oldlol: :oldlol: pathetic performance

[SyRyanYang]

Did Nash or Paul get doubled on EVERY pick and roll?:confusedshrug:

[Jon_Koncak]

Did Nash or Paul get doubled on EVERY pick and roll?:confusedshrug:

that's what happens to superstars,they get double teamed.A LOT.Are we gonna seriously justify his 25 turnovers on double teams?C mon.

[edrick]

Did Nash or Paul get doubled on EVERY pick and roll?:confusedshrug:

You guys would NEVER say this if it was about Lebron. Let's be real.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Did Nash or Paul get doubled on EVERY pick and roll?:confusedshrug:
They both have and both their teams offenses excelled. Theyre MUCH better pickandroll players than Steph, much better passers and playmakers. Stephs halfcourt game is weaksauce the only thing thats great in his shotmaking

[StephHamann]

This is by far the weakest era of all time, i'l talke Bob Cousy over this clown Curry and his faggy friends.

[warriorfan]

For one 70% of the passes he gets out of those hard doubles is to Draymond Green. If you have been watching the series you have known that Draymond can't get a bucket if his life depended on it. He doesn't even try to shoot anymore, he usually just dribbles and smashes into Mozgov or Thompson and doesn't even get a layup off. Or else he does an ugly drive and kick to Iguodala who is wide open and Curry gets the hockey assist and no credit on the stats even though he created the whole play. ORTG is a shitty stat to use in general and especially if not used in context. The reason why it's so low is because CLE is taking a grinding halt to their game by using the full 24 seconds as much as possible and then getting offensive rebounds on top of that. Steph

Curry has averaged 26 / 5 / 7 on 60% TS while seeing double team attention every possession and having team mates that aren't taking advantage of open looks or taking any pressure off of him.

That is why he is going to be the FMVP.

[warriorfan]

They both have and both their teams offenses excelled. Theyre MUCH better pickandroll players than Steph, much better passers and playmakers. Stephs halfcourt game is weaksauce the only thing thats great in his shotmaking


Let's see Nash or Paul run pick and roll with Draymond Green and Andrew Bogut... :oldlol:

Let's see Nash or Paul make a finals? :oldlol:

Let's be serious, if Nash or Paul replaced Curry on this Warrior team they would of not even made the Finals. :oldlol:

[NBASTATMAN]

Steph Curry is an amazing scorer,the best shooter the NBA has ever seen.But he is a mediocre playmaker,i cant imagine Nash or Paul having this kind of terrible ass/to ratio.No surprise coach K had Kyrie and Harden playing as main distributors in team USA and using Steph strictly as an off the ball shooter.


THE GUY plays more like a TWO guard ala KOBE than a pt guard ala Steve Nash...

[IGOTGAME]

He's not a point guard who happens to be a great shooter. He's a great shooter who happens to be a point guard.

This

[edrick]

A dude with amazing handles, that is also a turnover machine? That makes sense. :rolleyes:

[theaussieguy]

this is where the eyetest>stats. Anyone who watches games knows that curry is more than adequate at playmaking in fact the notion that he is like a ball dominant score first PG like Westbrook is absurd. Yes he is a score first guard but that's because he happens to be one of the greatest shooters of all time.

People need to wake up and realize his mere presence on the court is playmaking because he draws so many double teams. If he didn't have the overall skill in his game I would agree, but he does but theres no point focusing on playmaking when a lot of the time you are better off taking the shot urself.

In saying that tho, Id really like to see Klay get involved more.

[sportjames23]

Steph Curry in the Finals. Up 3-2 on the verge of winning his first title.

All that matters.

[konex]

Or maybe he's been trapped all series?

[tpols]

this is where the eyetest>stats. Anyone who watches games knows that curry is more than adequate at playmaking in fact the notion that he is like a ball dominant score first PG like Westbrook is absurd. Yes he is a score first guard but that's because he happens to be one of the greatest shooters of all time.

People need to wake up and realize his mere presence on the court is playmaking because he draws so many double teams. If he didn't have the overall skill in his game I would agree, but he does but theres no point focusing on playmaking when a lot of the time you are better off taking the shot urself.

In saying that tho, Id really like to see Klay get involved more.

Yup.. he always throws it to the pick setter after being hard doubled and offense swings from there. It's easy to rack up assists ala lebron where you just pound the ball against single coverage and throw a last second pass.. doesn't necessarily mean you were better just Cuz you got the stats tho

[Young X]

He's not a point guard who happens to be a great shooter. He's a great shooter who happens to be a point guard.Exactly. He's not a PG. He's a ridiculous shotmaker with some PG skills.

Someone like Lebron is more of a PG than him...and it's not only him but most of the other elite "PG's" aren't actually PG's either. It's a dying breed.

Doesn't matter a whole lot though. This team doesn't need him to be a PG for them to excel. He's a terrific player and he's on the verge of helping them win a championship.

[Braincells]

Be that as it may, Blatt is doing a wonderful job of sending extra defenders and trapping him on the perimeter.

Curry is still putting up superstar numbers and decent shooting percentages with the whole Cavs defense shadowing him on all possessions.

Stat sheets won't show the attention Curry is attracting every possession down the floor. He's the sole reason the likes of Iggy and Barnes are getting open looks.

The funny thing is Blatt will live with Iggy scoring 15 all night if it means Curry not shooting.

Dude is showing why he's the MVP. I'm impressed.

[MEB2kDeez]

Steph Curry in the Finals. Up 3-2 on the verge of winning his first title.

All that matters.
Fact

[Heavincent]

i cant imagine Nash or Paul having this kind of terrible ass/to ratio.

I can't imagine Chris Paul making it past the second round.

[Rocketswin2013]

He's not very good at some aspects of passing. And he's generally bad at passing out of traps because of his small size. Guys like LeBron and Harden cab see over those traps. He's also not very good as a passer in the lane, not comfortable with skip passes, either. Really good in transition, though. And good getting it to guys under the rim.


And Kyrie is just an outright better ballhandler in traffic, so if course his A/TO is better.

[bitedez]

For one 70% of the passes he gets out of those hard doubles is to Draymond Green. If you have been watching the series you have known that Draymond can't get a bucket if his life depended on it. He doesn't even try to shoot anymore, he usually just dribbles and smashes into Mozgov or Thompson and doesn't even get a layup off. Or else he does an ugly drive and kick to Iguodala who is wide open and Curry gets the hockey assist and no credit on the stats even though he created the whole play. ORTG is a shitty stat to use in general and especially if not used in context. The reason why it's so low is because CLE is taking a grinding halt to their game by using the full 24 seconds as much as possible and then getting offensive rebounds on top of that. Steph

Curry has averaged 26 / 5 / 7 on 60% TS while seeing double team attention every possession and having team mates that aren't taking advantage of open looks or taking any pressure off of him.

That is why he is going to be the FMVP.

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[Done_And_Done]

Steph Curry in the Finals. Up 3-2 on the verge of winning his first title.

All that matters.

Pretty much

[bballnoob1192]

COME AT ME BRO!
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[24-Inch_Chrome]

He's not a point guard who happens to be a great shooter. He's a great shooter who happens to be a point guard.

This.

[warriorfan]

Let's see Nash or Paul run pick and roll with Draymond Green and Andrew Bogut... :oldlol:

Let's see Nash or Paul make a finals? :oldlol:

Let's be serious, if Nash or Paul replaced Curry on this Warrior team they would of not even made the Finals. :oldlol:

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[Derka]

He's not a point guard who happens to be a great shooter. He's a great shooter who happens to be a point guard.
This. Thread should have ended here.

[Euroleague]

Steph Curry is an amazing scorer,the best shooter the NBA has ever seen.But he is a mediocre playmaker,i cant imagine Nash or Paul having this kind of terrible ass/to ratio.No surprise coach K had Kyrie and Harden playing as main distributors in team USA and using Steph strictly as an off the ball shooter.

It's not play making that is his problem. It's that he's retarded. He's clearly one of the dumbest players in the NBA. It's nothing based on his skill, it's just decision making.

And it's funny you mention Harden, because he's even dumber than Curry is.

[Euroleague]

Or maybe he's been trapped all series?

Blatt uses good defensive schemes, but let's be serious here. The Cavs defense is absolutely horrible. They have almost no defensive level at all, no physicality, no athleticism.

Their big men cannot switch on anything. They can't guard on switches if their life depended on it. And their main defender on him in Dellavedova is nothing but an outright scrub that has only three basketball skills - dribbling, passing, and hustling, and he's only really good at the hustling one.

Curry is going against an all time weak defense as far as NBA finals teams go. And any good point guard should be trapped if is he facing any competent defensive scheme. Of course, this is the NBA we are talking about..................

[warriorfan]

Blatt uses good defensive schemes, but let's serious here. The Cavs defense is absolutely horrible. They have almost no defensive level at all, no physicality, no athleticism.

Their big men cannot switch on anything. They can't guard on switches if their life depended on it. And their main defender on him in Dellavedova is nothing but an outright scrub that has only three basketball skills - dribbling, passing, and hustling, and he's only really good at the hustling one.

Curry is going against an all time weak defense as far as NBA finals teams go.


wrong, they are trapping the screen every time

they are starting 3 excellent perimeter defenders

Thompson and Mozgov are both good presences in the paint

Since their offense is LeBron ball ISO every time, the rest of the team saves most of their energy on defense.

This current Cavs line up is a very good defensive team.

[TheCorporation]

Curry actually has a chance to break the record for most turnovers in a Finals series :bowdown:

The 5-game record is 25, so he actually tied that mark (w/ Isiah Thomas)

The 6-game record is 30
The 7-game record is 31

Go, Curry!

[Inferno]

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[bdreason]

He's no CP3.

[SyRyanYang]

Curry actually has a chance to break the record for most turnovers in a Finals series :bowdown:

The 5-game record is 25, so he actually tied that mark (w/ Isiah Thomas)

The 6-game record is 30
The 7-game record is 31

Go, Curry!

Isiah and Magic

not a bad company at all:rockon:
One more indication that Stephen will be up there one day

[J Shuttlesworth]

Crazy enough I expected LeBron to have high turnovers in this series. For whatever reason, he was turning it over a ton against Chicago and Atlanta, but has protected it very well against the Dubs despite an even higher usage rate than the last rounds.

[SyRyanYang]

Crazy enough I expected LeBron to have high turnovers in this series. For whatever reason, he was turning it over a ton against Chicago and Atlanta, but has protected it very well against the Dubs despite an even higher usage rate than the last rounds.

He probably knew that GS feed off turnovers and fastbreaks.
Good adjustment

[Euroleague]

wrong, they are trapping the screen every time

they are starting 3 excellent perimeter defenders

Thompson and Mozgov are both good presences in the paint

Since their offense is LeBron ball ISO every time, the rest of the team saves most of their energy on defense.

This current Cavs line up is a very good defensive team.

The Cavs have absolutely NO ONE that can guard anything on a switch.

Excellent perimeter defenders? WTF are you smoking?

Thompson and Mozgov might be a size factor in the paint, but they are absolutely horrific at trying to guard on the switches, among the worst imaginable, and as far as Mozgov goes, they resorted to not even using him due to that.

This is why NBA becomes a joke in many ways. When NBA only fans can't even admit what is clear and obvious to anyone with even basic and rudimentary basketball knowledge.

Curry is a great shooter and a very exciting player, and he's definitely one of my favorite players ever to watch play. But if he was playing against even a remotely competent level defense, he can't get even half of those looks or shots. And if people don't grasp that, they don't know a thing about basketball.

And you can bring any comment from those announcers you want saying otherwise, and yes I know they are former coaches. They are just paid millions of dollars to market the NBA entertainment product, and anyone with a brain can grasp that what they are saying is not an actual analysis - it's just NBA marketing talking points.

The truth is there is absolutely no defense being played anywhere. Curry is making about 3 truly defended shots a game, and maybe just one a game that's really deep, something like that, with the rest of it is just basically going against no defense.

It's not picking on him. LeBron is basically doing the same thing. The only guy even attempting to guard LeBron is Iguodala, and even he's only putting up a very minimal amount of defensive pressure.