Wade vs Kobe Battles

[Wade's Rings]

2004-2005
12.25.2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmozQwuTwCA

2005-2006
12.25.2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaPWuctzcEE

1.16.2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThBppqTcdAo

2006-2007
12.25.2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNo3RIPwQiw

1.15.2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSDCVnl-xE

2008-2009
12.19.2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUPhO3wG58

1.11.2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ABdo5KF5bA

2009-2010
12.04.2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ZZnrGeFzU

3.4.2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX2gy9rKNU

Career Head-2-Head Stats
Dwyane Wade: 24.2/4.3/6.6/1.9/1.1 shooting 45% 11 Wins

Kobe Bryant: 27.3/4.2/4.9/1.3/.4 shooting 44% 8 Wins

Hopefully we can get a few more battles before these two retire.

[Mr Feeny]

2004-2005
12.25.2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmozQwuTwCA

2006-2007
12.25.2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNo3RIPwQiw

1.15.2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSDCVnl-xE

2008-2009
12.19.2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUPhO3wG58

2009-2010
12.04.2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ZZnrGeFzU

3.4.2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkzLNK5rhIw

Hopefully we can get a few more battles before these two retire.

My favorite was the Christmas game in 2006 with the two best perimeter players going head to head. It was billed as scoring champions vs finals MVP. Shaq was injured so he didn't play and I remember Kobe saying he could score 60 on Wade.

By the time the game was done, Wade had hung 40 points 11 assists, 4 steals and 4(!) blocks on 60 percent shooting including some insane spin moves and euro steps. Kobe ended the game with 4-17 shooting. It was a clinic by Wade back when he was at his best. Before his injuries. It's sad that THAT Wade didn't hang around for long. What could have been. His game was so beautiful to watch.

[kennethgriffin]

My favorite was the Christmas game in 2006 with the two best perimeter players going head to head. It was billed as scoring champions vs finals MVP. Shaq was injured so he didn't play and I remember Kobe saying he could score 60 on Wade.

By the time the game was done, Wade had hung 40 points 11 assists, 4 steals and 4(!) blocks on 60 percent shooting including some insane spin moves and euro steps. Kobe ended the game with 4-17 shooting. It was a clinic by Wade back when he was at his best. Before his injuries. It's sad that THAT Wade didn't hang around for long. What could have been. His game was so beautiful to watch.


http://i.imgur.com/ndW39tD.gif

[Wade's Rings]

My favorite was the Christmas game in 2006 with the two best perimeter players going head to head. It was billed as scoring champions vs finals MVP. Shaq was injured so he didn't play and I remember Kobe saying he could score 60 on Wade.

By the time the game was done, Wade had hung 40 points 11 assists, 4 steals and 4(!) blocks on 60 percent shooting including some insane spin moves and euro steps. Kobe ended the game with 4-17 shooting. It was a clinic by Wade back when he was at his best. Before his injuries. It's sad that THAT Wade didn't hang around for long. What could have been. His game was so beautiful to watch.

When did Kobe say he could score 60 on Wade?

Without that injury in 2007 Wade would win his first MVP and would have 2 Seasons equivalent to his 2009 Season.

[ArbitraryWater]

Where's the 2006 one in LA? Those gotta be the best ones...

2005 in LA, Shaq return, Kobe scores 42, Wade closes...
2006 in LA, center stage once again, Kobe with 37 & W this time.

Link for the 2005 and 2006 RS meetings in Miami?

edit: wrong stats

[Magic 32]

My favorite was the Christmas game in 2006

My favorite was also in 2006. WOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8XVPptZmeA

Nothing but net on almost every shot.

[Mr Feeny]

When did Kobe say he could score 60 on Wade?

Without that injury in 2007 Wade would win his first MVP and would have 2 Seasons equivalent to his 2009 Season.

It was the day before the match. I remember the Miami beat writers all being offended by it. Agreed with your second point. He was playing extremely well until he got injured against Houston. There was a game against the spurs that fall where he scored 19 points or so in the last 10 minutes against the eventual NBA champions to almost single handily bring Miami back and win the game. He had a memorable back to back block sequence on Tony Parker. You could probably find it somewhere on YouTube.

[Mr Feeny]

My favorite was also in 2006. WOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8XVPptZmeA

Nothing but net on almost every shot.

Why have you quoted me. Are you under the impression that I'm interested in your opinion?

[Wade's Rings]

Link for the 2005 and 2006 RS meetings in Miami?

I don't have videos showing both Wade & Kobe's Highlights those years.

[Magic 32]

Are you under the impression that I'm interested in your opinion?

Well, your putrid and bitter attempt at trolling certainly suggest that.

At least you wanted a reaction. So here is one more from me..

2/6

[Wade's Rings]

It was the day before the match. I remember the Miami beat writers all being offended by it. Agreed with your second point. He was playing extremely well until he got injured against Houston. There was a game against the spurs that fall where he scored 19 points or so in the last 10 minutes against the eventual NBA champions to almost single handily bring Miami back and win the game. He had a memorable back to back block sequence on Tony Parker. You could probably find it somewhere on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54WBjPjNLpk

[catch24]

That 2006 Christmas game was a disappointment because Kobe had the flu.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2708149

Those matchups in 2006 and 2009/10 were absolutely fantastic though. I had game-recaps on my old YT account. Should have kept them on my hard-drive.

[Mr Feeny]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54WBjPjNLpk

There we go! Wow, that's a long time ago. He just regressed into a whole other type of player. His first step there, as you can see, as so quick it's unreal. He was so flexible and could get to the rim at will. Lebron was always the other one who could make it to the rim whenever he liked albeit using his transcendent athleticism rather ran pure agility and finesse like Wade there. But boy, was Wade something back then. Incredible. Thanks for the video :applause:

[Wade's Rings]

There we go! Wow, that's a long time ago. He just regressed into a whole other type of player. His first step there, as you can see, as so quick it's unreal. He was so flexible and could get to the rim at will. Lebron was always the other one who could make it to the rim whenever he liked albeit using his transcendent athleticism rather ran pure agility and finesse like Wade there. But boy, was Wade something back then. Incredible. Thanks for the video :applause:

No problem.

[Mr Feeny]

That 2006 Christmas game was a disappointment because Kobe had the flu.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2708149

Those matchups in 2006 and 2009/10 were absolutely fantastic though. I had game-recaps on my old YT account. Should have kept them on my hard-drive.

So he says. I loved it nontheless. 40 points, 11 assists, 4 steals and 4 blocks on 60 percent shooting while holding the other guy to 4-17 is just insanely good no matter what. Jordan, incidentally, let us know just how much a flu could stop him.

[Mr Feeny]

That 2006 Christmas game was a disappointment because Kobe had the flu.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2708149

Those matchups in 2006 and 2009/10 were absolutely fantastic though. I had game-recaps on my old YT account. Should have kept them on my hard-drive.

The 2009 matchups were great. The Lakers won the home game if I'm not mistaken while the Heat won the one in Miami (the one where Wade hit that 28 footer at the 3rd quarter buzzer and then scored back to back buckets in the final minute and a half to take them to victory.) Games between Miami and LA were always fun to watch for most of us.
The 06 one in LA was when Bynum his Shaq with a spin move and the crowed erupted. Shaq looked simply stunned.

[Wade's Rings]

The 2009 matchups were great. The Lakers won the home game if I'm not mistaken while the Heat won the one in Miami (the one where Wade hit that 28 footer at the 3rd quarter buzzer and then scored back to back buckets in the final minute and a half to take them to victory.) Games between Miami and LA were always fun to watch for most of us.
The 06 one in LA was when Bynum his Shaq with a spin move and the crowed erupted. Shaq looked simply stunned.

From 2008-2010 all the games were decided by 3 Points or less.

[Mr Feeny]

From 2008-2010 all the games were decided by 3 Points or less.

That's incredible. Almost unbelievable when you think about it.

[NBASTATMAN]

My favorite was the Christmas game in 2006 with the two best perimeter players going head to head. It was billed as scoring champions vs finals MVP. Shaq was injured so he didn't play and I remember Kobe saying he could score 60 on Wade.

By the time the game was done, Wade had hung 40 points 11 assists, 4 steals and 4(!) blocks on 60 percent shooting including some insane spin moves and euro steps. Kobe ended the game with 4-17 shooting. It was a clinic by Wade back when he was at his best. Before his injuries. It's sad that THAT Wade didn't hang around for long. What could have been. His game was so beautiful to watch.



CHRISTMAS MASSACRE.. Poor Kobe :rockon:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

That 2006 Christmas game was a disappointment because Kobe had the flu.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2708149

Those matchups in 2006 and 2009/10 were absolutely fantastic though. I had game-recaps on my old YT account. Should have kept them on my hard-drive.

Yeah. Too bad Kobe couldn't compete. That game winner he had in Wade's grill doe ... :eek:

[Mr Feeny]

CHRISTMAS MASSACRE.. Poor Kobe :rockon:

Yup. He pretty much annihilated him. There was once hesitation dribble in the third quarter where he COMPLETLY lost Kobe and drove and dunked. He was just so damn good back then.

[NBASTATMAN]

Yup. He pretty much annihilated him. There was once hesitation dribble in the third quarter where he COMPLETLY lost Kobe and drove and dunked. He was just so damn good back then.



If AND WHEN Wade was healthy he was the best player in the league.. imo.. Yes better than Lebron and Kobe.. :rockon:

[Wade's Rings]

If AND WHEN Wade was healthy he was the best player in the league.. imo.. Yes better than Lebron and Kobe.. :rockon:

:applause:

[Mr Feeny]

If AND WHEN Wade was healthy he was the best player in the league.. imo.. Yes better than Lebron and Kobe.. :rockon:

He was sensational when healthy. I'll give you that.

[NBASTATMAN]

He was sensational when healthy. I'll give you that.


HE dominated the best defenses while KObe and Lebron were garbage vs those same defenses... EASILY WADE OVER KOBE AND LEBRON

[Wade's Rings]

HE dominated the best defenses while KObe and Lebron were garbage vs those same defenses... EASILY WADE OVER KOBE AND LEBRON

:applause: :bowdown:

[Wade's Rings]

bump

1.11.09 new battle

[Wade's Rings]

Bump

1.16.2006 new battle

[Nuff Said]

That's my dawg! *chris tucker voice*

[Andrei89]

Prime Wade was the superior player.

Slightly less of a scorer, but, a much better passer and a superior defender, I dont care if Kobe has 20 illegitimate " All NBA First Defense teams".

[NBASTATMAN]

Prime Wade was the superior player.

Slightly less of a scorer, but, a much better passer and a superior defender, I dont care if Kobe has 20 illegitimate " All NBA First Defense teams".
:applause: :cheers:

[STATUTORY]

Prime Wade was the superior player.

Slightly less of a scorer, but, a much better passer and a superior defender, I dont care if Kobe has 20 illegitimate " All NBA First Defense teams".

if we define prime by 4 game stretch in the finals where he was getting all the whistles then sure

[Wade's Rings]

if we define prime by 4 game stretch in the finals where he was getting all the whistles then sure

Kobe has a Series where he shot 96 Free Throws :confusedshrug:

[sportjames23]

Is this the start of the Kobe/Wade Wars?

[Andrei89]

if we define prime by 4 game stretch in the finals where he was getting all the whistles then sure


If you watched the finals you would know all those calls were legit. Not his fault Mavs could not stop him. Prime Wade is one of the best players I have seen. A shame he is cursed with injuries.

We need Plowking here to bump that awesome thread.

[Papaya Petee]

08-09 Wade was just ridiculous to watch.

Kobe was at 27/5/5 that year and couldn't hang with Wade.

Most of their match ups were very close except for some
06 Christmas Massacre was brutal.
Kobe in 2012 owning Wade after that brutal foul in the ASG

Even in 2013 they both went at each other. Wade had 27 and 30 point games while Kobe had 28 in both I believe.

[ArbitraryWater]

08-09 Wade was just ridiculous to watch.

Kobe was at 27/5/5 that year and couldn't hang with Wade.

Most of their match ups were very close except for some
06 Christmas Massacre was brutal.
Kobe in 2012 owning Wade after that brutal foul in the ASG

Even in 2013 they both went at each other. Wade had 27 and 30 point games while Kobe had 28 in both I believe.

Kobe had 22 in LA, Wade wrecked him in that one.

[Wade's Rings]

Bump

12.25.2005 new battle

[Wade's Rings]

bump new duel

3.4.2010 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX2gy9rKNU

[WayOfWade]

bump new duel

3.4.2010 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX2gy9rKNU
Good Stuff!:rockon:

[GrapeApe]

Wade and Kobe have had some great battles over the years, and it's clear that there's legitimate mutual respect between them. Too bad they only played twice a year and never met in the finals. That would have been truly epic. It's unlikely we'll ever see two SG's of that caliber in the league again. Second and third greatest to ever do it.

:cheers:

[AnaheimLakers24]

Top 10 vs a top 15 player :applause:
doesnt get better than that

[eliteballer]

08-09 Wade was just ridiculous to watch.

Kobe was at 27/5/5 that year and couldn't hang with Wade.

Most of their match ups were very close except for some
06 Christmas Massacre was brutal.
Kobe in 2012 owning Wade after that brutal foul in the ASG

Even in 2013 they both went at each other. Wade had 27 and 30 point games while Kobe had 28 in both I believe.

:oldlol: yeah in 09 Kobe only averaged 27/5/5 in 36 MPG and led the Lakers to 65 wins in the West with Bynum missing 30 games

[HiphopRelated]

It was the day before the match. I remember the Miami beat writers all being offended by it. Agreed with your second point. He was playing extremely well until he got injured against Houston. There was a game against the spurs that fall where he scored 19 points or so in the last 10 minutes against the eventual NBA champions to almost single handily bring Miami back and win the game. He had a memorable back to back block sequence on Tony Parker. You could probably find it somewhere on YouTube.
That was probably my favorite Wade game (reg season)

[GrapeApe]

That was probably my favorite Wade game (reg season)

That entire season up until the shoulder injury was one ridiculous game after another. He was playing at a historic level and was on his way to winning MVP. Despite his numbers dropping considerably after the injury, he still led the league in PER that season. That's how good he was before getting hurt. The final 2 months of '07 and the injured '08 season were sandwiched between 29/8/6/2.5/1, 30+ PER and 30/8/5/2.2/1.3, 30+ PER. Judging by those numbers, '08 had a chance to be Wade's absolute peak season. Damn you Shane Battier!

[DoctorP]

2004-2005
12.25.2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmozQwuTwCA

2005-2006
12.25.2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaPWuctzcEE

1.16.2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThBppqTcdAo

2006-2007
12.25.2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNo3RIPwQiw

1.15.2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQSDCVnl-xE

2008-2009
12.19.2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUPhO3wG58

1.11.2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ABdo5KF5bA

2009-2010
12.04.2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ZZnrGeFzU

3.4.2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryX2gy9rKNU

Career Head-2-Head Stats
Dwyane Wade: 24.2/4.3/6.6/1.9/1.1 shooting 45% 11 Wins

Kobe Bryant: 27.3/4.2/4.9/1.3/.4 shooting 44% 8 Wins

Hopefully we can get a few more battles before these two retire.

Sweet thread. Repped.

[Cold soul]

Prime Wade was the superior player.

Slightly less of a scorer, but, a much better passer and a superior defender, I dont care if Kobe has 20 illegitimate " All NBA First Defense teams".

Lol superior player? Come on now at their best both were close same tier as players go I give Kobe the slight edge. 09 Wade was unreal he easily could been MVP that season.

[Papaya Petee]

:oldlol: yeah in 09 Kobe only averaged 27/5/5 in 36 MPG and led the Lakers to 65 wins in the West with Bynum missing 30 games
Didn't mean it in a negative way. I ment that he was beasting. But in their 2 H2H matchup in 08-09 Wade had his way with Kobe.

Just shows how dominant he was that year.

[AlphaWolf24]

I loved watching the match ups....

You could tell Wade was always looking forward to play his best against Kobe....it was like he waited his whole life to show everyone he could be great like young Kobe was...

Reminded me of when Mitch Richmond would try his best against Michael Jordan.....Mitch had some great games..

That game winner Kobe hit in Wades grill took his soul.....then the all star game and the "foul out" game.....Wade hasn't been the same since

[Papaya Petee]

I loved watching the match ups....

You could tell Wade was always looking forward to play his best against Kobe....it was like he waited his whole life to show everyone he could be great like young Kobe was...

Reminded me of when Mitch Richmond would try his best against Michael Jordan.....Mitch had some great games..

That game winner Kobe hit in Wades grill took his soul.....then the all star game and the "foul out" game.....Wade hasn't been the same since
But since then Wades won every game against Kobe outplaying him or playing Kobe to a draw in all of them.....

[Dragonyeuw]

When you look at the big 3 perimeter player matchups in the mid-late 00's between Lebron/Kobe/Wade, Wade vs Kobe and Wade vs Lebron usually delivered more than Lebron vs Kobe which was THE hyped matchup. I remember when Wade and Lebron back in 2006 went mano a mano for like 40+ each, an amazing display for two young superstars before they hit their peak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arRfX-PEWko

[derb2k2]

I loved watching the match ups....

You could tell Wade was always looking forward to play his best against Kobe....it was like he waited his whole life to show everyone he could be great like young Kobe was...

Reminded me of when Mitch Richmond would try his best against Michael Jordan.....Mitch had some great games..

That game winner Kobe hit in Wades grill took his soul.....then the all star game and the "foul out" game.....Wade hasn't been the same since


your fanaticism is showing bro and there was some damn luck in that banker.

[Wade's Rings]

When you look at the big 3 perimeter player matchups in the mid-late 00's between Lebron/Kobe/Wade, Wade vs Kobe and Wade vs Lebron usually delivered more than Lebron vs Kobe which was THE hyped matchup. I remember when Wade and Lebron back in 2006 went mano a mano for like 40+ each, an amazing display for two young superstars before they hit their peak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arRfX-PEWko

Wade & Lebron had another match or 2 where they went for 40+ vs each other.

[mehyaM24]

But since then Wades won every game against Kobe outplaying him or playing Kobe to a draw in all of them.....

since then, wade has this guy named lebron - you know, the mvp and undisputed best player in the game?

yea.. that guy

[GrapeApe]

since then, wade has this guy named lebron - you know, the mvp and undisputed best player in the game?

yea.. that guy

What does that have to do with Wade outplaying Kobe individually? :confusedshrug:

Another poster mentioned it but Kobe has always brought the best out of Wade. That's a sign of respect for Kobe, who Wade himself has always respected. That's what I liked about the rivalry. There wasn't a lot of yapping, just going out at each other and playing at a high level on the court.

[mehyaM24]

What does that have to do with Wade outplaying Kobe individually? :confusedshrug:
Another poster mentioned it but Kobe has always brought the best out of Wade. That's a sign of respect for Kobe, who Wade himself has always respected. That's what I liked about the rivalry. There wasn't a lot of yapping, just going out at each other and playing at a high level on the court.



the guy i quoted said wade "won every game" post 2010.


much of that has to do with lebron


lebron has ALSO made a conscious effort to take kobe's soul when they meet h2h.


he's been quoted on saying that he gets fired up playing against kobe (for whatever reason).

[GrapeApe]

the guy i quoted said wade "won every game" post 2010.


much of that has to do with lebron


lebron has ALSO made a conscious effort to take kobe's soul when they meet h2h.


he's been quoted on saying that he gets fired up playing against kobe (for whatever reason).

Kobe's an all time great so it's not surprising that guys like Lebron and Wade get fired up playing against him. Like I said earlier, it's a sign of respect. I remember young Wade going off against Iverson a few times and Wade later said he was fired up to play against him because of how much he respected Iverson's game.

[WayOfWade]

But since then Wades won every game against Kobe outplaying him or playing Kobe to a draw in all of them.....
Umm... look I'm as big a Wade fan as anybody, but that is nowhere near the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH1H8ag5YTA
True Wade has owned Kobe in just about every one of their matchups since Kobe hit that game winner against him, but Kobe easily got him here; Wade even fouled out doing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12eoXapHnes

[Papaya Petee]

Umm... look I'm as big a Wade fan as anybody, but that is nowhere near the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH1H8ag5YTA
True Wade has owned Kobe in just about every one of their matchups since Kobe hit that game winner against him, but Kobe easily got him here; Wade even fouled out doing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12eoXapHnes

You're showing me individual plays? I can bring up single plays as well.

Aside from that 2012 matchup in LA, Wade has gotten the upper hand on Kobe. Simple as that.

[stalkerforlife]

Wade going up against Kobe was like Kobe going up against Jordan.

Wade tried really hard to impress his hero and prove himself.

[WayOfWade]

You're showing me individual plays? I can bring up single plays as well.

Aside from that 2012 matchup in LA, Wade has gotten the upper hand on Kobe. Simple as that.
You are correct, my only point was that Kobe did indeed win one game against Wade and outplayed him, and that Wade hadn't beaten him every time since 2010. You are also right about showing individual plays, I've seen dozens of videos of Wade taking massive dumps on Kobe, especially after 2010.

[catch24]

Posted in here earlier, but my favorites are the game from late 2008 in Miami (2009 season), the 2006 game with Shaq and Bynum beefing @ LA, Kobe's game winner in Wade's face, and the 2010 game @ Miami when both exchanged clutch shots on one another.

Epic battles from these gentlemen. Best 2 guards after Mike.

[WayOfWade]

Posted in here earlier, but my favorites are the game from late 2008 in Miami (2009 season), the 2006 game with Shaq and Bynum beefing @ LA, Kobe's game winner in Wade's face, and the 2010 game @ Miami when both exchanged clutch shots on one another.

Epic battles from these gentlemen. Best 2 guards after Mike.
Quality Post!!! :applause:

[Papaya Petee]

You are correct, my only point was that Kobe did indeed win one game against Wade and outplayed him, and that Wade hadn't beaten him every time since 2010. You are also right about showing individual plays, I've seen dozens of videos of Wade taking massive dumps on Kobe, especially after 2010.
It was just a confusing post from that other guy, claiming since Kobe hit the game winner he's been outplaying Wade. Aside from that 2012 game it has been all Wade.

Both are all time greats, so they'll have a ton of highlight plays against each other :cheers:

[catch24]

Quality Post!!! :applause:

:cheers:

Cool to have Wade fans on here. Brings me back to 09 again... 2008 and 2009 was ISH at its absolute peak - no doubt.

[Dragonyeuw]

the 2006 game with Shaq and Bynum beefing.

Wasnt that xmas 2004, the first Shaq- Kobe matchp?

[DoctorP]

My favorite was the Christmas game in 2006 with the two best perimeter players going head to head. It was billed as scoring champions vs finals MVP. Shaq was injured so he didn't play and I remember Kobe saying he could score 60 on Wade.

By the time the game was done, Wade had hung 40 points 11 assists, 4 steals and 4(!) blocks on 60 percent shooting including some insane spin moves and euro steps. Kobe ended the game with 4-17 shooting. It was a clinic by Wade back when he was at his best. Before his injuries. It's sad that THAT Wade didn't hang around for long. What could have been. His game was so beautiful to watch.

This version of Wade is the 2nd best player I have ever seen. Better than Kobe, better than LeBron better than Iverson. Only Jordan was better. Too bad it didn't last long but it was memorable.

[eliteballer]

This version of Wade is the 2nd best player I have ever seen. Better than Kobe, better than LeBron better than Iverson. Only Jordan was better. Too bad it didn't last long but it was memorable.

*looks at posters location*

[PsychoBe]

no one wants to mention the game-winner kobe made beyond the 3-point arc right over wade himself.

yet let it be reversed and kobe detractors would never let him live it down.

[WayOfWade]

no one wants to mention the game-winner kobe made beyond the 3-point arc right over wade himself.

yet let it be reversed and kobe detractors would never let him live it down.
Yeah, that absolutely sucked for me watching that shot, even worse with my Kobetard older brother right next to me. Sick shot though, kudos to Kobe for hitting it

[GrapeApe]

no one wants to mention the game-winner kobe made beyond the 3-point arc right over wade himself.

yet let it be reversed and kobe detractors would never let him live it down.

It's been mentioned multiple times in this thread.

[Wade's Rings]

no one wants to mention the game-winner kobe made beyond the 3-point arc right over wade himself.

yet let it be reversed and kobe detractors would never let him live it down.

It was mentioned multiple times in this thread and Kobe stans constantly bring it up. He even sent one of Kobe's shots into the stands. I wonder why Wade's blocks on Kobe are never brought up :confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe showing Wade what all nba first team defense looks like :bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4

[WayOfWade]

Kobe showing Wade what all nba first team defense looks like :bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4
Wade showing Kobe how to win games in the 4th quarter:bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFQdOTqkM4

[Wade's Rings]

Wade showing Kobe how to win games in the 4th quarter:bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFQdOTqkM4

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Vaniiiia]

Wade showing Kobe how to win games in the 4th quarter:bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFQdOTqkM4
Wade :bowdown:

LeBron :bowdown: :bowdown:

Kobe :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

Wade showing Kobe how to win games in the 4th quarter:bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFQdOTqkM4

:bowdown:

[DoctorP]

I hope this year brings one last battle between these 2 old warriors.

[Wade's Rings]

I hope this year brings one last battle between these 2 old warriors.

Same here.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Wade showing Kobe how to win games in the 4th quarter:bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFQdOTqkM4

Kobe winning the game

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/kobe-wade.jpg

[Wade's Rings]

Kobe winning the game

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/kobe-wade.jpg

:lebronamazed:

[TheMarkMadsen]

:lebronamazed:


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20Situation/Revenge/b1ef9639.gif

[WayOfWade]

Kobe winning the game

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/kobe-wade.jpg
Yeah I can't really top that. Heck of a play by Kobe, Top 10 player all time

[Wade's Rings]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20Situation/Revenge/b1ef9639.gif

And people say Wade is soft/wouldn't survive in the 80s & 90s.

[GrapeApe]

Kobe winning the game

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/kobe-wade.jpg

Pfft. Banked in. Lucky ass shot.








































































J/K. Actually it was a hell of a play just to get the shot off.

[eliteballer]

Man, Wade always looks so bad when he tries to guard Kobe 1 on 1.

[GrapeApe]

Man, Wade always looks so bad when he tries to guard Kobe 1 on 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFQdOTqkM4

[Wade's Rings]

Bump. Will add the Final matchup tonight, let's hope it's a great one :rockon:

[riseagainst]

Bump. Will add the Final matchup tonight, let's hope it's a great one :rockon:


:applause:

[Smoke117]

Time for Wade to rape Kobe one last time...Kobe has never been able to even come close to containing Wade. The SG with all his first team defensive nods who is considered the premier defensive SG for his generation (:oldlol: ) has gotten abused by Wade in practically every matchup they've had.


http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/kobe-wade.jpg

...a lucky game winner would be all Kobe fans have.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Notice how every Wade fan could appreciate that picture and gave props to Kobe

and of course Smoke is the only guy who is hating :oldlol: :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Time for Wade to rape Kobe one last time...Kobe has never been able to even come close to containing Wade. The SG with all his first team defensive nods who is considered the premier defensive SG for his generation (:oldlol: ) has gotten abused by Wade in practically every matchup they've had.



...a lucky game winner would be all Kobe fans have.


Smoke, just shut the **** up about this already or I'm going to embarrass you due to your lack of bball knowledge.. actually I'ma do it anyway..



05 Kobe didn't even make the all defensive team, Wade was still 2nd team.. must be Kobe's fault though?

06 Wade didn't even make the second team in 2006, how are you gonna blame a 1st teamer for stealing his spot? That doesn't make any sense

07 Wade didn't play enough games

08 Wade didn't play enough games

How can you blame any of that on Kobe "stealing his spot"

09 he didn't beat out Chris Paul. There are 2 guard spots buddy.

10 didn't beat out Rondo

11 Didn't even make the second team.

12 Didn't even make the second team

13 Didn't even make the second team

14 Didn't even make the second team

15 Didn't even make the second team


You can argue 2 years, 09 and 10 and even that is sketchy considering there are two other players other than Kobe that were still beating him out.

2 years and yet you constantly act like his entire career he was snubbed.



Now please, stop with this bs

[TheMarkMadsen]

and before somebody comes in here and says, "they never select two shooting guards or two point guards so you can't say Rondo and Paul made it over Wade"

well that just isn't true. because in 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 07, 08 there were two guards of the same position in both guard spots for the all defensive first team

[Smoke117]

Notice how every Wade fan could appreciate that picture and gave props to Kobe

and of course Smoke is the only guy who is hating :oldlol: :oldlol:

What is there to appreciate about it...it was a lucky ass shot, period. There is nothing remotely special about it. Why are the defending league champions even needing a lucky game winner to beat the 2010 heat at home anyway? lol.


Kobe showing Wade what all nba first team defense looks like :bowdown: :bowdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4

And are you serious with this? LOL...one play? There are about 3 or 4 all defensive first team nods that Wade and NOT KOBE should have.

Here's a more realistic video of Kobe's defense on Wade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvWjQpskhXE

[TheMarkMadsen]

Smoke please address this


05 Kobe didn't even make the all defensive team, Wade was still 2nd team.. must be Kobe's fault though?

06 Wade didn't even make the second team in 2006, how are you gonna blame a 1st teamer for stealing his spot? That doesn't make any sense

07 Wade didn't play enough games

08 Wade didn't play enough games

How can you blame any of that on Kobe "stealing his spot"

09 he didn't beat out Chris Paul. There are 2 guard spots buddy.

10 didn't beat out Rondo

11 Didn't even make the second team.

12 Didn't even make the second team

13 Didn't even make the second team

14 Didn't even make the second team

15 Didn't even make the second team


You can argue 2 years, 09 and 10 and even that is sketchy considering there are two other players other than Kobe that were still beating him out.

2 years and yet you constantly act like his entire career he was snubbed.


b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b but Kobe stole all of Wade's all defensive first teams

:roll: :roll:

[Smoke117]

Smoke, just shut the **** up about this already or I'm going to embarrass you due to your lack of bball knowledge.. actually I'ma do it anyway..



05 Kobe didn't even make the all defensive team, Wade was still 2nd team.. must be Kobe's fault though?

06 Wade didn't even make the second team in 2006, how are you gonna blame a 1st teamer for stealing his spot? That doesn't make any sense

07 Wade didn't play enough games

08 Wade didn't play enough games

How can you blame any of that on Kobe "stealing his spot"

09 he didn't beat out Chris Paul. There are 2 guard spots buddy.

10 didn't beat out Rondo

11 Didn't even make the second team.

12 Didn't even make the second team



I never said it was completely Kobe's fault that Wade is underrated defensively...but Kobe didnt' deserve to garner any of those first team nods. His best defensive season was the 2000 season BEFORE he started caring more about scoring 30 points a game than playing great all around ball. He certainly wasn't a first team all defensive caliber player in the latter half of the last decade or any part of the one were in now. Rondo, CP3, Wade were ALL BETTER than Kobe. The fact that Wade wasn't even 2nd team in 2011 and Kobe was first team is a great example of what a bunch of horse shit the all defensive nods are...Wade was still playing great defense in 2011 and Kobe was mediocre at best...yet who is first team while Wade isn't on any team? I don't even think you Kobe stans even watched him play to think he was ever more than decent defensive player careerwise. I don't see how you can be so biased to not believe what your own eyes tell you. The last 5 years of his career before he got injured he was a legit mediocre defensive player making the all nba first team (and 2nd team)...that's just a fact.

[STATUTORY]

Man, Wade always looks so bad when he tries to guard Kobe 1 on 1.

I remember when Kobe had dat boy on the verge of tears during an all star game and Wade resorted to breaking Kobe's nose

lost some respect for Dwayne after that

[TheMarkMadsen]

I never said it was completely Kobe's fault that Wade is underrated defensively...but Kobe didnt' deseve to be on any of those first team nods. His best defensive season was the 2000 season BEFORE he started caring more about scoring 30 points a game than playing great all around ball. He certainly wasn't a first team all defensive caliber player in the latter half of the last decade or any part of the one were in now. Rondo, CP3, Wade were ALL BETTER than Kobe. The fact that Wade wasn't even 2nd team in 2011 and Kobe was first team is a great example of what a bunch of horse shit the all defensive nods are...Wade was still playing great defense in 2011 and Kobe was mediocre at best...yet who is first team while Wade isn't on any team? I don't even think you Kobe stans even watched him play to think he he was ever more than decent defensive player throughout his career. I don't see how you can be so biased to not believe what your your own eyes tell you. The last 5 years of his career before he got injured he was a legit mediocre defensive player making the all nba first team (and 2nd team)...that's just a fact.


says shit like this and then calls me bias :oldlol: :oldlol:

I'm glad that now you will finally shut the hell up about Kobe "stealing Wade's defensive nods"

Wade had like 3-4 years of his entire prime where he was even eligible to make the all defensive team (06, 09, 10, 11) that's it..

Deal with the facts, Kobe has nothing to do with Wade not making the all defensive teams.. now take your whiny ass home already

[Smoke117]

says shit like this and then calls me bias :oldlol: :oldlol:

I'm glad that now you will finally shut the hell up about Kobe "stealing Wade's defensive nods"

Wade had like 3-4 years of his entire prime where he was even eligible to make the all defensive team (06, 09, 10, 11) that's it..

Deal with the facts, Kobe has nothing to do with Wade not making the all defensive teams.. now take your whiny ass home already

...Kobe didn't deserve to be first team all defensive in 09, 10, or 11. How is that biased? The eye test and the advanced stat test show him to be mediocre to decent those seasons. He certainly wasn't close to Wade's level in those years. If Wade wasn't making the all defensive first team those 3 years than it should have been somebody else besides Kobe...that's for damn sure. Kobe stole first team all defensive nods from many players throughout his career...not just Wade. Though I suppose more accurately it's that the coaches just didn't give a shit and didn't want to take the time to give legitimate selections.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Shut up about Kobe for like two seconds, i'm begging you :oldlol: :oldlol:

The reason that Wade doesn't make the first team is because he couldn't beat out Rondo multiple times, couldn't beat out Paul in 09 and couldn't beat out Larry Hughes in 05

of course that probrably doesn't matter as much to you because it doesn't jive with your "Kobe is evil man" theory but hey, these are the facts.

Deal with them as you please

[Showtime2001]

Clearly Smoke is more obsessed with Kobe than his actual fans are.

[IllegalD]

Clearly Smoke is more obsessed with Kobe than his actual fans are.


That's usually the case with most Kobe haters, especially the ones on this board . They spend more time talking about Kobe than their own teams. (Wade Stanleys, Smoke, Simon, LeBron Stanleys, Jameerthequeer, Red1, DMAVS, etc)

[Smoke117]

Shut up about Kobe for like two seconds, i'm begging you :oldlol: :oldlol:

The reason that Wade doesn't make the first team is because he couldn't beat out Rondo multiple times, couldn't beat out Paul in 09 and couldn't beat out Larry Hughes in 05

of course that probrably doesn't matter as much to you because it doesn't jive with your "Kobe is evil man" theory but hey, these are the facts.

Deal with them as you please

...right, except everything I say about Kobe is sound and a lot of other people agree. It's not like I'm the only basketball fan saying Kobe is overrated defensively...that's a pretty common perception by anyone who isn't a kobe stan and knows anything about basketball. By the way...look at the title of this thread? What does it say? "Wade vs Kobe Battles" What the hell else am I supposed to talk about in this thread you ****ing mongoloid?

[Showtime2001]

That's usually the case with most Kobe haters, especially the ones on this board . They spend more time talking about Kobe than their own teams. (Wade Stanleys, Smoke, Simon, LeBron Stanleys, Jameerthequeer, Red1, DMAVS, etc)
Definition of rent free.

[TheMarkMadsen]

...right, except everything I say about Kobe is sound and a lot of other people agree. It's not like I'm the only basketball fan saying Kobe is overrated defensively...that's a pretty common perception by anyone who isn't a kobe stan and knows anything about basketball. By the way...look at the title of this thread? What does it say? "Wade vs Kobe Battles" What the hell else am I supposed to talk about in this thread you ****ing mongoloid?

Stop talking like your opinion is better than any other opinion, your opinion does not equal fact, not even close. You love to throw blanket statements and act like "lots of peoples agree", yeah well lots of people agree that the world is flat too.

can you please address the fact that Wade's first team woes are due to not being able to beat out Rondo twice, Paul in 09 and Hughes in 05?

Has nothing to do with Kobe as you love to imply it does.

You are wrong. From now on when you bitch and moan about Wade not making all defensive teams, keep Kobe's name out of your mouth (I know that for you this will be near impossible) because he isn't the reason why your boy spent his entire career not making first team all defense

[Inferno]

Dare I say Wade is the 3rd best SG all time just behind Kobe? :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Dare I say Wade is the 3rd best SG all time just behind Kobe? :applause:


If you want to completely ignore Jerry West then yeah sure.

[IllegalD]

If you want to completely ignore Jerry West then yeah sure.

Don't forget Clyde Drexler.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Don't forget Clyde Drexler.


Wade was better imo. Hard to compare West since I've never seen him play in real time.

[Wade's Rings]

On Eliteballer and statutory's comments about Kobe vs Wade 1v1. Nobody Touches Jordan is uploading Wade/Kobe defense on Kobe/Wade videos, should I make a thread on it and add the videos while putting your statement to the test?

[Dray n Klay]

On Eliteballer and statutory's comments about Kobe vs Wade 1v1. Nobody Touches Jordan is uploading Wade/Kobe defense on Kobe/Wade videos, should I make a thread on it and add the videos while putting your statement to the test?

No.

[Smoke117]

Stop talking like your opinion is better than any other opinion, your opinion does not equal fact, not even close. You love to throw blanket statements and act like "lots of peoples agree", yeah well lots of people agree that the world is flat too.

can you please address the fact that Wade's first team woes are due to not being able to beat out Rondo twice, Paul in 09 and Hughes in 05?

Has nothing to do with Kobe as you love to imply it does.

You are wrong. From now on when you bitch and moan about Wade not making all defensive teams, keep Kobe's name out of your mouth (I know that for you this will be near impossible) because he isn't the reason why your boy spent his entire career not making first team all defense


Uh...no I don't think they do in this day and age...but okay. :confusedshrug: Btw...I love how you as Kobe stan somehow thinks your opinion is objective and unbiased...adorable.

[WayOfWade]

Don't forget Clyde Drexler.
Jerry West > Dwyane Wade > Cyde Drexler. Deal with it

[TheMarkMadsen]

Glad you have finally realized that Rondo, Paul and Hughes kept Wade off the defensive first teams and not Kobe

:applause: :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

I'm being objective. I gave you a year by year breakdown proving that Kobe has never "stolen" a first team spot from Wade. There was always another guard that beat Wade out.

[Smoke117]

I'm being objective. I gave you a year by year breakdown proving that Kobe has never "stolen" a first team spot from Wade. There was always another guard that beat Wade out.

...again...that other guard actually deserved to be on the first all defensive team...

[TheMarkMadsen]

...again...that other guard actually deserved to be on the first all defensive team...

ok then explain 05, 06, 07, 08, 11, 12, 13, 14


05 Kobe wasn't even on the all defensive team and Wade still only made 2nd team

Kobe's fault too I guess?

FACE THE FACTS MAN. Kobe didn't keep Wade off the all defensive first team. There are literally only 2 years you could argue that he did (09 & 10) and even then he was still losing out to Paul and Rondo

You wanna argue those two years? OK whatever, but stop acting like he was snubbed his entire career due to Kobe, that is ridiculous and only something and uninformed hater would say.

[Smoke117]

ok then explain 05, 06, 07, 08, 11, 12, 13, 14


05 Kobe wasn't even on the all defensive team and Wade still only made 2nd team

Kobe's fault too I guess?

FACE THE FACTS MAN. Kobe didn't keep Wade off the all defensive first team. There are literally only 2 years you could argue that he did (09 & 10) and even then he was still losing out to Paul and Rondo

You wanna argue those two years? OK whatever, but stop acting like he was snubbed his entire career due to Kobe, that is ridiculous and only something and uninformed hater would say.


Since you are so ****ing daft I'm going to make this clear for you...Kobe didnt' even deserve HALF of his first team all defensive nods REGARDLESS of who the competition was. He was an above average - decent defensive player for most of his career...period.

I'm curious though...are you one of those absurd kobe stans who actually thinks his defense was on par with Jordans? If you know me you know I'm not a fan of either players...but Jordan is a couple tiers above Kobe defensively for sure career vs career.

[TheMarkMadsen]

wow exactly what I expected.

No actual answer to the question. I straight up asked you to explain how Kobe is taking this awards away from Wade during years which Kobe himself didn't even make the team or during years which Wade didn't even make the second team.

and of course all I got was the classic Smoke response of "**** Kobe **** I'm angry"

:sleeping :sleeping

[Smoke117]

wow exactly what I expected.

No actual answer to the question. I straight up asked you to explain how Kobe is taking this awards away from Wade during years which Kobe himself didn't even make the team or during years which Wade didn't even make the second team.

and of course all I got was the classic Smoke response of "**** Kobe **** I'm angry"

:sleeping :sleeping

Well I guess you put one over on me eh? Congratulations! :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Lebronxrings]

:sleeping :sleeping

[Dray n Klay]

:sleeping :sleeping

:lol :lol

[Wade's Rings]

Wade was better imo. Hard to compare West since I've never seen him play in real time.

Wade > West IMO

[Dray n Klay]

Wade > West IMO

West was FAR better than Wade


30/12/9 career Finals averages >>> 23/6/5 for Wade

[Wade's Rings]

West was FAR better than Wade


30/12/9 career Finals averages >>> 23/6/5 for Wade

Per 100 possession stats.

[Showtime2001]

Between Wade and West its really a toss up but I would give the slight advantage to Wade.

[aj1987]

Wade was better imo. Hard to compare West since I've never seen him play in real time.
The only thing West has over Wade is stats and he has that over Kobe as well. Kobe and West are flat out better players than West.


Going back to the defensive teams, Wade definitely got snubbed a bunch of times. He deserved first teams in '05, '09, '10, and '11. 2nd teams '06, '12, and '13. Yeah, '13. Dude was really good on the defensive end and his clutch defense actually won the Heat a couple of games during the streak. People forget that Wade was a top 10 player during the RS in '13. 21/5/5/2/1 on 52% with elite defense.

[SpaceJam]

MJ
Kobe
Wade

END IT

[Wade's Rings]

The only thing West has over Wade is stats and he has that over Kobe as well. Kobe and West are flat out better players than West.


Going back to the defensive teams, Wade definitely got snubbed a bunch of times. He deserved first teams in '05, '09, '10, and '11. 2nd teams '06, '12, and '13. Yeah, '13. Dude was really good on the defensive end and his clutch defense actually won the Heat a couple of games during the streak. People forget that Wade was a top 10 player during the RS in '13. 21/5/5/2/1 on 52% with elite defense.

I'd say he should've been 1st Team in '12.

[Dray n Klay]

I'd say he should've been 1st Team in '12.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: