The real reason LeBron is 2/6

[warriorfan]

Good things come to those who wait.

LeBron James never wanted to.

James has literally had his pick on whoever he wants on his team for the majority of his career. Instead of building a strong young core and developing with them he has just chosen to slap together super teams for instant contenders every year that don't quite work because it's not the proper way to build a team. LeBron is the type who puts the pizza in the microwave instead of preheating the oven then complains when it turns out shitty.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Yea, leaving CLE the first time around was fine, leaving MIA just reeked of quitter

[hawke812]

Good things come to those who wait.

LeBron James never wanted to.

James has literally had his pick on whoever he wants on his team for the majority of his career. Instead of building a strong young core and developing with them he has just chosen to slap together super teams for instant contenders every year that don't quite work because it's not the proper way to build a team. LeBron is the type who puts the pizza in the microwave instead of preheating the oven then complains when it turns out shitty.

This is true.

[kamil]

There are no shortcuts.

Oh wait, Dan Gilbert said that, lol.

[KungFuJoe]

Very true. People have been joking around with MJ's 1-9 lately, but it's that 1-9 that lead to 6-6.

[HOoopCityJones]

Last year's Heat would've ran this young core out the building imo.

[kennethgriffin]

free trips to the finals without deserving to be there is why hes 1.5 for 6


but its also the only reason lebron has any rings what so ever. since all he had to do was get lucky. which any team can do. upsets happen


if lebron played in the west his whole career he'd be a perfect 0 for 0 in nba finals. no losses. but no titles either

so you take the good with the bad i guess

[imdaman99]

Finally, OP makes a thread that isn't shit. I've been waiting 5 years :applause: Let me remind you that he isn't 2/6 yet...

Hope you have changed for the better :cheers:

[LikeABosh]

Another bump for after Lebron wins in 7 :banana:

[ShackEelOKneel]

You know what they say: When the going gets tough, LeBron gets going to another team.

[warriorfan]

Another bump for after Lebron wins in 7 :banana:

meltdown

[tmacattack33]

Good things come to those who wait.

LeBron James never wanted to.

James has literally had his pick on whoever he wants on his team for the majority of his career. Instead of building a strong young core and developing with them he has just chosen to slap together super teams for instant contenders every year that don't quite work because it's not the proper way to build a team. LeBron is the type who puts the pizza in the microwave instead of preheating the oven then complains when it turns out shitty.


Lebron came into the league in 2004, not 2010.

[JerrySeinfeld]

You know what they say: When the going gets tough, LeBron gets going to another team.

:lol

[raprap]

The problem with Bron was he's too good right from the start. He didn't have the luxury of playing with high draft picks and building a young core. I think the only player that the Cavs drafted in the lottery 2004-2010 was Luke Jackson. :oldlol:

[BBallZen83]

Well, there are actual reasons to why he is potentially 2/6 in the finals other than a feel good narrative for trolls.

2007- team vastly outmatched by Spurs. No business being there

2011- choked. I may be a fan, but I don't lie to myself. This is the one series I put square on his shoulders

2014 - His team was broke. He played well

*2015 - still not decided brosef. But if they do lose, again his team is plainly out matched.

There you have it. What actually happened vs. some BS narrative.

[alanLA92]

The problem with Bron was he's too good right from the start. He didn't have the luxury of playing with high draft picks and building a young core. I think the only player that the Cavs drafted in the lottery 2004-2010 was Luke Jackson. :oldlol:

That what happens when you play in the leastern conference.

[Hey Yo]

Good things come to those who wait.

LeBron James never wanted to.

James has literally had his pick on whoever he wants on his team for the majority of his career. Instead of building a strong young core and developing with them he has just chosen to slap together super teams for instant contenders every year that don't quite work because it's not the proper way to build a team. LeBron is the type who puts the pizza in the microwave instead of preheating the oven then complains when it turns out shitty.
Was Larry Hughes, Jamison, Shaq, JJ Hickson, Boobie, Ira Newble, Delonte West, Anthony Parker the dream teammates that James was waiting for?

[Nuff Said]

if lebron played in the west his whole career he'd be a perfect 0 for 0 in nba finals. no losses. but no titles either

[/B]
If he was on okc or Spurs he'd be dominating even more. I never understood how people can actually bash him for making the finals so many times as if it's easy even in a weak conference. If its so easy then why hasn't any other eastern player done it? Why hasn't melo? Why hasn't Wade? Howard? The truth is, it isn't easy at all.

[FKAri]

Lebron's been incredible. What he's doing in the finals is unheard of tbh. But that 2011 choke is the scar on his resume that will stay with him forever.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

staying in the east is the reason lebron has lost so many finals. he just makes them by default in that conference. and once when he gets there, its like oh shi t.

in reality lebron is 2/4 in the finals. the mia teams were the only ones that had a shot at the finals if they were in the west. the 2 clev finals shouldn't count against him. he willed his team into it but once he got there - oh shi t.

[diamenz]

lebron didn't do it the right way, and that shit's biting him in the ass.

[sportjames23]

You know what they say: When the going gets tough, LeBron gets going to another team.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[LBJMVP]

Well, there are actual reasons to why he is potentially 2/6 in the finals other than a feel good narrative for trolls.

2007- team vastly outmatched by Spurs. No business being there

2011- choked. I may be a fan, but I don't lie to myself. This is the one series I put square on his shoulders

2014 - His team was broke. He played well

*2015 - still not decided brosef. But if they do lose, again his team is plainly out matched.

There you have it. What actually happened vs. some BS narrative.


yeah, I really hate the 2/5 and possibly 2/6 narrative.

Yah ima cavs fan so im gonna back lebron. but in 07 we had no chance against the spurs, absolutely 0.

2011 i agree he choked. and 2014 the spurs were a way better team as well.

go look at the board in 2007 and find me a thread were someone said the cavs were gonna win that series. lebrons second best player was like boobie gibson :lol

[Elosha]

Seriously, why the hell isn't this thread written if/when the Cavs actually lose the Finals? Lebron's won before when he was down 3 to 2 against the Spurs. Kobe won when he was down 3 to 2 to Boston. Jordan won when he was down 0 to 2 to NY. The greatest players can sometimes overcome these type of odds.

Not saying that I think the Cavs are likely to win, but if they do come back and take the next 2, this thread is going to be justifiably ridiculed.

[brain drain]

Whole thread is ridiculous.

Getting to the finals with a team isn't underachieving.

Getting that Cleveland team to the finals in 2007 was definitely not underachieving.

Getting this current hobbled Cleveland team to the finals and winning (at least) 2 games is not underachieving.

You can definitely talk about the 2 MIA losses - but even then, all things considered, going to the finals 4 times in a row and winning 2 times ain't too shabby, either.

[BBallZen83]

lebron didn't do it the right way, and that shit's biting him in the ass.

So tired of this argument. Lebron gave Cleveland 7 good hard years! 7 years of his damn career, and the front office just didn't get the players around him. If he wanted to have any kind of legacy, he had to do what he did... so he did... and he won 2 rings and made 4 trips to the finals. I'd say that's not to shabby, but that's just me.

While he was gone, Cleveland finally got some good players to go around him, and now he is back and has a realistic shot with Cleveland. Looking back on the whole thing, I honestly see no other way he could have gone about things and still been able to build the legacy he has now.

[nashwade]

After the first stint at CLE he realised doing it the traditional way sucked. Around the same time he saw BOS and LAL succeeded with super star teams so why not.

That said he should never have left MIA last year. He may eventually have to go but not when Wade+Bosh have a few good years left.

[diamenz]

So tired of this argument. Lebron gave Cleveland 7 good hard years! 7 years of his damn career, and the front office just didn't get the players around him. If he wanted to have any kind of legacy, he had to do what he did... so he did... and he won 2 rings and made 4 trips to the finals. I'd say that's not to shabby, but that's just me.

While he was gone, Cleveland finally got some good players to go around him, and now he is back and has a realistic shot with Cleveland. Looking back on the whole thing, I honestly see no other way he could have gone about things and still been able to build the legacy he has now.

i call bull. hakeem never left houston. robinson never left san antonio. ewing never left new york. miller never left indiana.

yeah, the last two mentioned are ringless but at least they're not colluders.

[The Iron Fist]

Well, there are actual reasons to why he is potentially 2/6 in the finals other than a feel good narrative for trolls.

2007- team vastly outmatched by Spurs. No business being there

2011- choked. I may be a fan, but I don't lie to myself. This is the one series I put square on his shoulders

2014 - His team was broke. He played well

*2015 - still not decided brosef. But if they do lose, again his team is plainly out matched.

There you have it. What actually happened vs. some BS narrative.

Lets stop it with this bs already. If the Cavs had no business being there, they wouldn't have made it to the finals. But the fact of the matter is, the Cavs did make the finals, and lost to a better team. If we're going to start giving passes to teams because "they had no business being there",

Kobe is 5-0 in the finals. 2004 team was just too old to really compete and there were lots of injuries.
2008, when Vlad Radmonovich is your starting SF, you shouldn't even be in the playoffs much less the finals.