is this a make or break ending to lebrons career.

[kennethgriffin]

2 wins and...

3 titles ( erasing the past asterisks and finals losses )
3 fmvps ( erasing any doubt with ray allen savior jesus shots )
4 season mvps ( legitimized as not just a fluke media hype award )
6-7 all time ranking ( finally winning a real title. proving he doesnt need multiple HOF legends )





vs






1 loss and..

1.5 for 6 ( asterisk's reinforced, free trips to finals, colluding, lockouts etc.. )
0.5 fmvps ( cause of ray allen )
4 bogus ESPN hype machine trophies
11-12 all time ranking ( possibly worse... )






the last image we remember of lebron



http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc0nuu8RYz1rfgmbqo2_500.jpg


or



http://i61.tinypic.com/2qwzs5d.jpg






this truly will be the end all be all in lebrons basketball tale




can't wait to see how the story unfolds

http://www.scholastic.com/content5/media/products/01/9780545673501_xlg.jpg

[LikeABosh]

No. He's 7 years younger than your boy Kobe and already has 4 MVPs, 2 FMVPs. By the time he's 37 him vs. Kobe won't even be a debate. Get the fvck over it.

[riseagainst]

lebron is already better/greater than kobe has ever dreamed of becoming. Heck, he was already better like 8 years ago.

:roll:

[Meticode]

That's a good size for being flaccid.

[BarberSchool]

I feel like this is sadly true, and Lebron knows it, and is salty as f#@k about it.

This is why he said "I'm the best player in the world", and put on a stiupid face and held it for 10 seconds after saying he was the best. becuase he knows this finals trip would have been enough to recover in the public's eyes, his hometown's eyes, etc.

But now with the player's union actually allowing real PED testing starting next year (while silver pushed for this year), Bron might deep inside feel like his window has closedl, and we might see skinny/sick/no-lift Bron again like we did early this season, before he "GOT INJURED AND RECOVERED AFTER VISITING MIAMI" MID-SEASON.


That's a good size for being flaccid.A SKINNY 4.5 FLACCID? Not good for a 6'8" guy, with equatorial genes, bruh. Growers ancestors come from cold climates. Showers ancestors are from warm climates.

[Wally450]

Kenneth is crazy, dude legitimately give LeBron 1.5 championships

:roll: :roll:

[kennethgriffin]

Kenneth is crazy, dude legitimately give LeBron 1.5 championships

:roll: :roll:


Youre lucky i dont take away 0.5 from 2013. He got bailed out by ray allen but thats only a technical asterisk

Lockouts is a factual asterisk in the nba record book

[edrick]

Youre lucky i dont take away 0.5 from 2013. He got bailed out by ray allen but thats only a technical asterisk

Lockouts is a factual asterisk in the nba record book

If that's your definition of being bailed out, then Kobe was bailed out for literally every single ring he has, but okay.

[mehyaM24]

this makes lebron's career even stronger legacy wise.

only a low iq idiot would deny that

[KiiiiNG]

when kyrie went down everyone just assumed the series was over, including op. everyone expected a short series with multiple blowouts.

then, lebron went god mode and won two games by himself. so now, guys like op are acting like he SHOULD win the finals, when it reality, no player in history wins two games with this roster.

lebrons legacy has been boosted, no doubt about it. lebron doing the unthinkable and climbing multiple spots in the all-time list without actually having to win it all.

proof of his individual greatness.

[MP.Trey]

So now that LeBron is down 3-2, a championship this year suddenly erases all doubts about past championships, you weren't singing the same tune when he was up 2-1 :oldlol:

[KiiiiNG]

op getting ethered again already...

this ones gonna get ugly.

kenneth is another one of those guys that loves getting shit on for the sake of attention. sad man.

[Hey Yo]

Youre lucky i dont take away 0.5 from 2013. He got bailed out by ray allen but thats only a technical asterisk

Lockouts is a factual asterisk in the nba record book
They played 66 games. The same amount Kobe played for his first ring.

2/4 as first option and 2.5 /3 as second option....correct?

[Hey Yo]

op getting ethered again already...

this ones gonna get ugly.

kenneth is another one of those guys that loves getting shit on for the sake of attention. sad man.
And apparently loves the pic of LeBron's junk since he keeps posting it over and over.

Maybe he can have a Fat Head made out of it to put beside the one he has of Kobe on his bedroom ceiling?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

No. He's still the best player in the league and we're supposed to lose that one finals loss will cement his legacy? He still has time to improve his already ATG level r

[SexSymbol]

2/6 in the finals is pathetic.

[BBallZen83]

2/6 in the finals is pathetic.

Dude... come on. You and OP aren't being even remotely reasonable, of course I am in here because of the troll bait but whatever. Making it to a finals is an accomplishment, any way you slice it. period.

And dude, even if he is 2/6 after this finals, are you really going to hold this finals against him? Are you really gonna hold 2007 against him? He had no business winning in 07 and he has no business winning this year. Even if I was the most diehard Kobe troll like OP, I would simply admit this fact. It's just honest to God truth.

The one finals he should truly be blamed for, HE ALREADY HAS. He got roasted endlessly for 2011, and still does to this day by trolls (not normal humans).

I mean, we can just make up sh#t like 1.5* like OP always does. Fine, then Kobe got carried by Shaq, and got bailed out game 7 versus Boston, so he gets no rings for the 3 peat, and a half a ring for 2010. So Kobe actually only has 1.5 rings just like Lebron. And since Lebron shouldn't be held responsible for 2007 or this year, he is actually 2/4... Wait, ya know what, his teammates took a big sh*t last year, just like he did in 2011, so last year doesn't count against him either. So he is actually 2/3, why?? Cause I said it and it's gospel truth. I can make things fit in my head however I want just like OP.

[jayfan]

23-100 from 3 this postseason.





.

[BarberSchool]

23-100 from 3 this postseason.That is not winning basketball.

[kennethgriffin]

Dude... come on. You and OP aren't being even remotely reasonable, of course I am in here because of the troll bait but whatever. Making it to a finals is an accomplishment, any way you slice it. period.

And dude, even if he is 2/6 after this finals, are you really going to hold this finals against him? Are you really gonna hold 2007 against him? He had no business winning in 07 and he has no business winning this year. Even if I was the most diehard Kobe troll like OP, I would simply admit this fact. It's just honest to God truth.

The one finals he should truly be blamed for, HE ALREADY HAS. He got roasted endlessly for 2011, and still does to this day by trolls (not normal humans).

I mean, we can just make up sh#t like 1.5* like OP always does. Fine, then Kobe got carried by Shaq, and got bailed out game 7 versus Boston, so he gets no rings for the 3 peat, and a half a ring for 2010. So Kobe actually only has 1.5 rings just like Lebron. And since Lebron shouldn't be held responsible for 2007 or this year, he is actually 2/4... Wait, ya know what, his teammates took a big sh*t last year, just like he did in 2011, so last year doesn't count against him either. So he is actually 2/3, why?? Cause I said it and it's gospel truth. I can make things fit in my head however I want just like OP.


Great players win more often than they lose in each round

Nobody said its bad to make the finals. Its bad to lose every time you make the finals

It means you either dont belong there or youre a god damn choker


Didnt belong there in 2007
Choked 2011
Choked 2013 (saved by ray)
Choked 2014
Didnt belong there in 2015

[Hey Yo]

Why you always ignore my question about the lockout season, Griffmonkey?

[Andrei89]

Great players win more often than they lose in each round

Nobody said its bad to make the finals. Its bad to lose every time you make the finals

It means you either dont belong there or youre a god damn choker


Didnt belong there in 2007
Choked 2011
Choked 2013 (saved by ray)
Choked 2014
Didnt belong there in 2015
I am sure he choked in 2013 where he put up 36 points and and 12 rebounds and hit the dagger in game 7 of the NBA finals 2013.

God, please, I hope for your own sake, you are not this damn stupid in real life man. Holy shit that would be sad:facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

They played 66 games. The same amount Kobe played for his first ring.

2/4 as first option and 2.5 /3 as second option....correct?


Lockouts arent about how much you have to work towards a title. They change the schedule that favors younger athletic guys. Condensed back to back to backs. 4 games in 5 night. No training camp. No pre season. No time to work in new coaches or systems. Limited practice time. Inflated injuries. Major ones to guys like rose and other stars. Teams like the lakers (who had a new coach) had no time to implement their offense or defense. Pau sucked all year because of this stuff.. spurs had no chance cause of it. Teams that didnt belong in the finals made it like the thunder.

In 1999 the jazz more than likely win if theres no lockout

In 2012 the bulls more than likely win if theres no lockout


This is why its asterisked




Ive posted this sh*t dozens of times so its the last time i answer it

[kennethgriffin]

I am sure he choked in 2013 where he put up 36 points and and 12 rebounds and hit the dagger in game 7 of the NBA finals 2013.

God, please, I hope for your own sake, you are not this damn stupid in real life man. Holy shit that would be sad:facepalm


He missed the shot to tie it. The series was over

Choke

Bail out

Ray allen


Lebron couldnt make a jumper all series until game 7

[BBallZen83]

Great players win more often than they lose in each round

Nobody said its bad to make the finals. Its bad to lose every time you make the finals

It means you either dont belong there or youre a god damn choker


Didnt belong there in 2007
Choked 2011
Choked 2013 (saved by ray)
Choked 2014
Didnt belong there in 2015

Dude, you have plenty ability to use context when you defend Kobe, right? Like when Lebron stans say he got carried in 2010 game 7? You bring up how he grabbed boards and hit clutch freethrows late, right? So why can't you used context with Lebron.

He didn't choke in 2013. He got them back into the game in game 6 where Ray had that unbelievable 3. They were looking like toast, and then he went on a run with a lineup that made it competitive again, before Spoelstra dumbly changed the rotation and went away from what was working. Yes, he had some boneheaded plays after the lineup change, but still hit that 3 right before Ray's 3. Honestly, Ray's 3 sealed the deal, but Lebron brought them back into striking distance. He also followed with a great game 7 performance to win the title, so if you are gonna sit here and tell me that he choked in 2014, then I'm going to tell you that Kobe choked and got his ass saved in 2010 (even though he had multiple good games before that). See how it works??? I can be unreasonable and asinine too.

And in 2014, he didn't choke. The entire team laid an egg. He played well, no one else did.

[Hey Yo]

Lockouts arent about how much you have to work towards a title. They change the schedule that favors younger athletic guys. Condensed back to back to backs. 4 games in 5 night. No training camp. No pre season. No time to work in new coaches or systems. Limited practice time. Inflated injuries. Major ones to guys like rose and other stars. Teams like the lakers (who had a new coach) had no time to implement their offense or defense. Pau sucked all year because of this stuff.. spurs had no chance cause of it. Teams that didnt belong in the finals made it like the thunder.

In 1999 the jazz more than likely win if theres no lockout

In 2012 the bulls more than likely win if theres no lockout


This is why its asterisked




Ive posted this sh*t dozens of times so its the last time i answer it
I don't care about 1999. Kobe only played 66 games in the reg season of 2000. The same amount as the 2012 lockout season.

Why does his 2 option ring count and James' ring doesn't considering LeBron led the entire Heat postseason in MP, scoring, assists, rebounds and steals?

Plus won a title as the underdog that year?

[Andrei89]

25 points/10 rebounds/7assists/2steals/1 block a game + that heroic game 7

This is better than any Kobe finals ever. Let alone Lebron's 2012 finals run which was out of this world. Bonus: 2015 finals Lebron in a losing effort better than any Kobe finals ever.

[BBallZen83]

And Kenneth. You (in your own brain) can put an asterisk on a title, but it's just not the real world. Just because you say it, it still has no bearing on reality. A ring is a ring is a ring. Lockout shmockout.

Blah blah blah about a lockout favoring younger players. If that were the case it would have favored the Thunder way more than the heat with an aging injury prone Wade and much older roster in general.

[kennethgriffin]

I don't care about 1999. Kobe only played 66 games in the reg season of 2000. The same amount as the 2012 lockout season.

Why does his 2 option ring count and James' ring doesn't considering LeBron led the entire Heat postseason in MP, scoring, assists, rebounds and steals?

Plus won a title as the underdog that year?

Lol did you even read my post

[MP.Trey]

Dude, you have plenty ability to use context when you defend Kobe, right? Like when Lebron stans say he got carried in 2010 game 7? You bring up how he grabbed boards and hit clutch freethrows late, right? So why can't you used context with Lebron.

He didn't choke in 2013. He got them back into the game in game 6 where Ray had that unbelievable 3. They were looking like toast, and then he went on a run with a lineup that made it competitive again, before Spoelstra dumbly changed the rotation and went away from what was working. Yes, he had some boneheaded plays after the lineup change, but still hit that 3 right before Ray's 3. Honestly, Ray's 3 sealed the deal, but Lebron brought them back into striking distance. He also followed with a great game 7 performance to win the title, so if you are gonna sit here and tell me that he choked in 2014, then I'm going to tell you that Kobe choked and got his ass saved in 2010 (even though he had multiple good games before that). See how it works??? I can be unreasonable and asinine too.

And in 2014, he didn't choke. The entire team laid an egg. He played well, no one else did.

Nah dude. You can't bring logic and objectivity into this argument. It just ain't gonna work.

[Hey Yo]

Lol are you gonna keep deflecting, Kenny?

[raprap]

Why is OP not banned yet? :roll:

[Bankaii]

Hold up, is no one gonna comment on how this fgt has a pic of Lebron's peewee saved?
And lol at 1.5 rings. Winning in a lockout season>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>having the MDE literally double your output on offense.

[kennethgriffin]

And Kenneth. You (in your own brain) can put an asterisk on a title, but it's just not the real world. Just because you say it, it still has no bearing on reality. A ring is a ring is a ring. Lockout shmockout.

Blah blah blah about a lockout favoring younger players. If that were the case it would have favored the Thunder way more than the heat with an aging injury prone Wade and much older roster in general.


I didnt put the asterisk

Do you even know what an asterisk is


Its to signify a major change/atleration in the protocol of something

An asterisk in itself isnt negative. Its if they printed out an official nba transcript of past nba champions. The nba would have to put a column at the bottom in brackets that says (*signifies lockout) and asterisks next to 1999 and 2012 for easy reference


Thats all an asterisk is. Its just to point out "lockout"

Its up to you or whoever to take it as a negative or not


Regardless theres an asterisk... look up the definition before commenting lol

[LikeABosh]

Lockouts arent about how much you have to work towards a title. They change the schedule that favors younger athletic guys. Condensed back to back to backs. 4 games in 5 night. No training camp. No pre season. No time to work in new coaches or systems. Limited practice time. Inflated injuries. Major ones to guys like rose and other stars. Teams like the lakers (who had a new coach) had no time to implement their offense or defense. Pau sucked all year because of this stuff.. spurs had no chance cause of it. Teams that didnt belong in the finals made it like the thunder.

In 1999 the jazz more than likely win if theres no lockout

In 2012 the bulls more than likely win if theres no lockout


This is why its asterisked




Ive posted this sh*t dozens of times so its the last time i answer it
:roll: Good one Kenny. The Heat weren't a "young, athletic team" A lot of there main role players such as Battier, Miller, Haslem etc all aging veterans. Not to mention Wade who is always dealing with injuries. Are you forgetting the fact that Bosh was out half the playoffs with an injury? They also played the "youngest, most athletic" team you can possibly face in the Finals. GTFO of here with your revisionist history bullshit.

[kennethgriffin]

:roll: Good one Kenny. The Heat weren't a "young, athletic team" A lot of there main role players such as Battier, Miller, Haslem etc all aging veterans. Not to mention Wade who is always dealing with injuries. Are you forgetting the fact that Bosh was out half the playoffs with an injury? They also played the "youngest, most athletic" team you can possibly face in the Finals. GTFO of here with your revisionist history bullshit.


Lol yea they had some older role players but the big 3 were all absolute prime

I'm talking about older guys who have to play 40 minutes like kobe

[kennethgriffin]

Lol are you gonna keep deflecting, Kenny?


You didnt bother reading my explanation. .. you just repeated hat kobe played 66 games


But i said lockouts effect the entire league and outcomes. Kobe skipping games doesnt effect the other 29 teams

[mateoboz]

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51c440096bb3f7473f000000/lebron-james-gives-epic-speech-after-winning-nba-finals-mvp.jpg
I think this pic should represent the first scenario.

[LikeABosh]

Lol yea they had some older role players but the big 3 were all absolute prime

I'm talking about older guys who have to play 40 minutes like kobe
Wade is always struggling with injury. A condensed season is as hard on him as it would be on anyone in the league. Bosh went down with an injury in game 1 of 2nd round vs. the Pacers. This .5 ring nonsense you continue to spew is absolute bunk. No one in the real world says this.

[LikeABosh]

Show me were this asterisk is btw.

[sd3035]

His career is already a joke to intelligent people, 2/6 would just add another few laughs

[funnystuff]

Can mods not ban for posting a dick picture in every thread? Seriously wtf. Dude is worse than 3ball, but theyre both in the same spectrum of 'retard'.

[kennethgriffin]

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51c440096bb3f7473f000000/lebron-james-gives-epic-speech-after-winning-nba-finals-mvp.jpg
I think this pic should represent the first scenario.


Isnt that ray allens fmvp lol

[nzahir]

He missed the shot to tie it. The series was over

Choke

Bail out

Ray allen


Lebron couldnt make a jumper all series until game 7
Straight up lie; lebron also had 16 in the 4th and brought them back. Ray allens 1st 3 of the game so you could argue it was his fault for not scoring much before it.

[kennethgriffin]

Can mods not ban for posting a dick picture in every thread? Seriously wtf. Dude is worse than 3ball, but theyre both in the same spectrum of 'retard'.


How do you ban someone for posting a screen cap from a nationally televised nba game

It wasnt even looked into by censorship companies cause "you need a good microscope to see anything" .. offficial quote

:lol

[BBallZen83]

I didnt put the asterisk

Do you even know what an asterisk is


Its to signify a major change/atleration in the protocol of something

An asterisk in itself isnt negative. Its if they printed out an official nba transcript of past nba champions. The nba would have to put a column at the bottom in brackets that says (*signifies lockout) and asterisks next to 1999 and 2012 for easy reference


Thats all an asterisk is. Its just to point out "lockout"

Its up to you or whoever to take it as a negative or not


Regardless theres an asterisk... look up the definition before commenting lol

Bro, of course you are using asterisk with a negative connotation, that's the only reason you bring it up incessantly. And you always say 1.5*. So both rings have an asterisk according to you, and one ring only counts for a half. You care more about Lebron failing than Kobe winning, and that's a sad thing. There are tons of people like you that feel that way about Lebron, just like there are tons of people that feel that way about Kobe, and it's just plain sad.

Any other time in history we could appreciate multiple greats of different eras. But now sadly with the evolution of the internet, social media, and trolling nothing can be appreciated it seems. Lebron is a legend and Kobe is a legend, none of your sh*t posting will ever change that, just like Silk's won't for the other side.

This shit is literally as lame as team Edward vs. team Jacob.

[Hey Yo]

You didnt bother reading my explanation. .. you just repeated hat kobe played 66 games


But i said lockouts effect the entire league and outcomes. Kobe skipping games doesnt effect the other 29 teams
Kobe only playing 66 games is more convenient than the 2012 66 game lockout season, considering he was riding coattails and not leading.

[LikeABosh]

Isnt that ray allens fmvp lol
Yea the guy who scored 0 points in game 7

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQDsZljAOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-u4pIQyjfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VquoPzITjSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4seP2wD_K4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mT99HCFFI

[Springsteen]

His career is already a joke to intelligent people, 2/6 would just add another few laughs

NBA legends aren't intelligent basketball minds then, I guess. :facepalm

[Inferno]

Kenneth still mad because anyone who isn't a delusional Bean stan puts LeBron on Kobe's level easily.

[Cali Syndicate]

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51c440096bb3f7473f000000/lebron-james-gives-epic-speech-after-winning-nba-finals-mvp.jpg
I think this pic should represent the first scenario.

I'm pretty sure, Lebron will be adding another round of these to his resume before he hangs them up....it just won't be this season.

[Simple Jack]

If everyone just stopped responding to this idiot, I'm pretty sure he'd stop posting. Or maybe not. Who knows. This level of delusion is unprecedented.

[ballin33]

I'd have him right at fringe top 10 if he loses, and top 6 if he wins, with still plenty of time to improve. The only thing you can hold against him is '11 finals.

[kennethgriffin]

Kenneth still mad because anyone who isn't a delusional Bean stan puts LeBron on Kobe's level easily.


next year this dude could reverse kobes finals record

kobe 2 losses out of 7

lebron 2 wins out of 7



nobody with even half a brain could possibily put a failure like lebron over an alpha