Clippers trade for Lance Stephenson from Hornets

[chips93]

Done deal: http://www.insidehoops.com/lance-stephenson-traded-061515.shtml

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They would be sending back hawes and barnes, so stephenson would be their small forward

i like the move, they need more scoring and shooting. its a high risk move, but lance is talented, and worth the gamble

[konex]

That would be a great move. He would thrive as a 3rd or 4th option again

[outbreak]

I'm torn between thinking it's stupid based on his recent season and thinking it could be awesome if it pans out. At least you have to give them credit for trying, too many teams don't swing for the fences and settle for being mediocre.

[Levity]

he's the talent they need at the 3, but god damn there's so many question marks surrounding this kid.

I'd assume a guy like doc could keep him in check, but id still be hesitant to see how he plays with a ball dominant PG in paul, seeing as spot up shooting is not one of stephensons fortes

[Rocketswin2013]

LAC needs to try something. Even if it doesn't turn out to be great, it's still isn't exactly a failure. Considering the fact that Barnes is horrible and Hawes couldn't make the rotation.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

They are trading virtually nothing to get him. But Lance is a team chemistry killer. He has done it now with two different teams.

I wouldn't want to take that risk.

[navy]

Lance is cancer. Even in his good seasons he wasnt good.

[dirkdiggler41]

They got JJ and Jamal. Why not try to get a sf?

[Bobcats2013]

What Lance provides is an alpha that this team desperately needs.

[navy]

They got JJ and Jamal. Why not try to get a sf?
He would play the 3.

[navy]

What Lance provides is an alpha that this team desperately needs.
Chris Paul?

[ClipperRevival]

Absolutely need to make this trade. Hawes was worthless and Barnes had some good stretches for us but he is 35 and way past his prime. There is no other team that desparately needs a young, athletic wing player than the Clips. Right now, we aren't good enough to win a title. Lance is a gamble but one worth taking imo because we don't lose much.

[HylianNightmare]

Love it

[ClipperRevival]

he's the talent they need at the 3, but god damn there's so many question marks surrounding this kid.

I'd assume a guy like doc could keep him in check, but id still be hesitant to see how he plays with a ball dominant PG in paul, seeing as spot up shooting is not one of stephensons fortes

We have enough shooters. We need D on the perimeter, a slasher and someone who can run the floor.

[mehyaM24]

doc would get him to play above average basketball again.

get it done

[Young X]

Unless the Clippers improve their god awful bench, defense or get rid of Crawford they're not doing shit. It's just gonna be another disappointing playoff exit.

I guess Stephenson will provide better defense in the playoffs but I don't see how this will help take them to championship level. Their core problems are still there and Jamal Crawford is still there.

[Magic 32]

More stable players that CP3 can count on.

[konex]

They desperately need a defensive wing. Barnes is so washed and he can't even ht 3s anymore

[SugarHill]

Lance is the ultimate house negro.
:biggums:

[Ca$H]

:biggums:

:roll: :roll:

[Akrazotile]

Lance is cancer. Even in his good seasons he wasnt good.


Hes a dope for sure, but his game is EXACTLY what the Clippers need along with a quality third big, and obviously there arent that many other options out there as far as difference makers.

I frequently criticize teams for taking dumb chances on knuckleheads, but in this circumstance I think its a reasonable calculated risk. I bet theyre prob encouraged by the way Smoove payed off for Houston, too.

[Proctor]

They need to find someone else not named Stephenson. I'd prefer a 35 year old Barnes on my team tbh.

[navy]

Hes a dope for sure, but his game is EXACTLY what the Clippers need along with a quality third big, and obviously there arent that many other options out there as far as difference makers.

I frequently criticize teams for taking dumb chances on knuckleheads, but in this circumstance I think its a reasonable calculated risk. I bet theyre prob encouraged by the way Smoove payed off for Houston, too.
Josh Smith is actually good in my opinion. Lance is not.

[Bobcats2013]

Chris Paul?

He's borderline but mostly beta. Stephenson is an energy alpha, he knows how to get emotions out of players.

[senelcoolidge]

Looks like a done deal. I'm not sure how I feel about this. If Stephenson has his head straight than it's a good fit, but if not than he's just a cancer. Is it me or does Doc give up on his players really fast.

[JohnFreeman]

Lance is horrible. Pretty much useless when his jump shot isn't falling, which is most of the time.

[Al Thornton]

Looks like a done deal. I'm not sure how I feel about this. If Stephenson has his head straight than it's a good fit, but if not than he's just a cancer. Is it me or does Doc give up on his players really fast.

it's more like he realizes his mistakes and tries to fix them. which is good it would just be more helpful if he didn't make the bad moves in the first place.

[Akrazotile]

I dont understand yall sayin Stephenson sucks. You must be judging him by Charlotte's ill-conceived idea to give him a leadership role and expext him to carry a significant load.

He clearly thrived as a freelancing (no pun intended) swing player running the wing on fastbreaks or spotting up for open shots in Indy. Basically a support player adding a dynamic/athletic punch to the core options of the team. Sure his lack of maturity still frustrated Indy at times and thats the risk the Clippers are taking. But to say he cant play?? We clearly have seen that he can, in the role the Clippers have lined up for him. He was very nearly an allstar doing it in Indy.

[PJR]

I presume this opens the door for Charlotte to draft Devin Booker. Dammit.

[Hey Yo]

Lance Stephenson averages:
- 2013-14 w/ Pacers: 13.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG & 4.6 APG
- 2014-15 w/ Hornets: 8.2 PPG, 4.5 RPG & 3.9 APG

[bluechox2]

done deal...

[Hey Yo]

Synergy Sports Tech ‏@SynergySST 5 minutes ago
Which version of Lance Stephenson is LAC getting, the dynamic 2014 version or the inefficient 2015 version?



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[rmt]

Hope that high basketball IQ and sound decision making (sarcasm) in late game situations will over-ride any Paul heroics.

[kurple]

He would play the 3.
doesnt make him an SF

[Darius]

Clippers need to make this gamble.

They are capped out with very limited trade chips. It might not work out but they aren't getting over the top with this squad as it stands now.

[ihatetimthomas]

Im shocked for anyone who thinks this is a bad deal for the Clippers. They unloaded Hawes who they clearly have no confidence in and was beat out of the rotation by Big Baby. Unreal they could actually get value back for his crap season.

He had a off year last season, but played well on the Pacers where there were more talent and leadership. I think with Doc and CP3, he will be in check. And they can just not pick up his option next year if he is a cancer.

Lance is a playmaker and will help the bench in a big way. He is a solid defender and can create his shot and distribute. They need a guy like him. I think the gamble is completely worth it.

[Hey Yo]

Clippers need to make this gamble.

They are capped out with very limited trade chips. It might not work out but they aren't getting over the top with this squad as it stands now.
They already did.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--hornets--lance-stephenson-141352816.html

[T_L_P]

I guess the Clippers had to do it.

Barnes is obviously a better player, but like an above poster said, he's old and he'll be done soon. Hawes is terrible.

I think Lance will perform better in a situation like this. He's best suited as the 4th option, and the Clippers seem to be structured - something he desperately needs.

[ihatetimthomas]

I guess the Clippers had to do it.

Barnes is obviously a better player, but like an above poster said, he's old and he'll be done soon. Hawes is terrible.

I think Lance will perform better in a situation like this. He's best suited as the 4th option, and the Clippers seem to be structured - something he desperately needs.

Barnes obviously better?

[Rocketswin2013]

He's borderline but mostly beta. Stephenson is an energy alpha, he knows how to get emotions out of players.
Yeah, he gets emotion out of guys alright. IIRC Evan Turner beat the shit out of him at a practice last year. :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

So what do they do with their SF position and for backup bigs? You can't keep trotting out Glen Davis

[T_L_P]

Barnes obviously better?

Yes. Though, like I said, I anticipate Lance playing better next season in a structured situation - and I doubt Barnes is gonna be giving his all for the Hornets (assuming he plays).

2015 Barnes is > 2015 Lance. One was a cancer and the other was an okay role player.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Huh? Since when is Lance a 3?

[Spurs m8]

lol clippers have put themselves in such a joke position.

Cheers gm doc

[JerrySeinfeld]

They needed more shooting so they get Lance Stephenson.

Doc as GM is hilarious

[ihatetimthomas]

They needed more shooting so they get Lance Stephenson.

Doc as GM is hilarious

Its not like the off season is done lol. They traded a big who was out of the rotation for a young wing player who has a versatile skill set . I think this is one of the better deals he's done since coming in

[HomieWeMajor]

Clips get darker and loose a light skin and a white guy.
I like it http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/images/smilies/dancing.gif

[JohnFreeman]

In a high-risk, high-reward move, the Los Angeles Clippers have acquired guard Lance Stephenson from the Charlotte Hornets, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The Clippers are sending forwards Spencer Hawes and Matt Barnes to the Hornets, sources said. The teams were having a trade call with the NBA office to finalize the deal on Monday evening, sources said.

done deal

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--hornets--lance-stephenson-141352816.html

[bigt]

Can someone explain to me why Charlotte do this? Lance didn't play well with them but he was on a pretty decent contract, better than the Hawes contract at least

[ClipperRevival]

Can someone explain to me why Charlotte do this? Lance didn't play well with them but he was on a pretty decent contract, better than the Hawes contract at least

They obviously don't believe in Lance anymore. Sometimes a player just needs a change of scenary. On paper, the Clips stole this one because Hawes was worthless and Barnes is 35 and he could decline dramatically at anytime. Lance is still only 24 with a high ceiling if he has his head on right. The Clips needed a guy like Lance more than anything else.

[QuebecBaller]

For Hawes and Barnes? Damn, the Hornets really wanted to get rid of him

[LoneyROY7]

F*CK YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Lance DA GAWD gonna return playing with Blake and Chris.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

No more Barnes? I like this move. A lot. :applause:

Now its time to dump Jamal f*cking Crawford.

[ArbitraryWater]

F*CK YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Lance DA GAWD gonna return playing with Blake and Chris.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

soo, next year will finally be, 'their year' ? :D


No more Barnes? I like this move. A lot. :applause:

Now its time to dump Jamal f*cking Crawford.

that nigha's 2014 6MOY award was horrible.. robbed Gibson.

[QuebecBaller]

I can imagine the phone call

Jordan: Hey Doc, would you like to have Stephenson on your team?

Doc: Well, not really...

Jordan: You sure? You don't have anything to offer for him?

Doc: Hawes and Barnes is the best I can give I guess...

Jordan: It's a deal. Bye

Doc: Wait! What? :mad:

[LoneyROY7]

soo, next year will finally be, 'their year' ? :D

Lock. It. Up.

[LONGTIME]

:oldlol: Cloppers

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

soo, next year will finally be, 'their year' ? :D



that nigha's 2014 6MOY award was horrible.. robbed Gibson.

Yeah I was kinda neutral about it. Good seeing him help us win games in the regular-season, but you just knew guy was gonna shit his pants come playoff time. His ineptitude against elite teams is common knowledge among Clipper faithful. :lol

*Kobe voice* Ship his azz out...

[LoneyROY7]

Can't wait for Lance to blow in little Steph's ear.

[Heavincent]

Risky move. He was absolute garbage with the Hornets.

[Young X]

That's another 2nd round exit.

Still didn't fix the fact that they have the worst bench in the league.

Still have Crawford who will once again kill them in the playoffs.

Still will be a mediocre defense.

No backup big.

Austin Rivers getting major playoff minutes.

It's the same shit every year - win 56 games, get the 3rd/4th seed, then their flaws get exposed against a higher seeded team in the semifinals. :sleeping

[tpols]

That's another 2nd round exit.

Still didn't fix the fact that they have the worst bench in the league.

Still have Crawford who will once again kill them in the playoffs.

Still will be a mediocre defense.

No backup big.

Austin Rivers getting major playoff minutes.

It's the same shit every year - win 56 games, get the 3rd/4th seed, then their flaws get exposed against a higher seeded team in the semifinals. :sleeping

It's pretty terrible spacing with lance jordan blake etc.. fk I wish I could see chris paul on a team like the bulls out east. He'd have a legit chance at making something of himself

[GoRapz]

Since when could Lance play the 3 full time? Clippers still have a huge hole at the 3

[ClipperRevival]

That's another 2nd round exit.

Still didn't fix the fact that they have the worst bench in the league.

Still have Crawford who will once again kill them in the playoffs.

Still will be a mediocre defense.

No backup big.

Austin Rivers getting major playoff minutes.

It's the same shit every year - win 56 games, get the 3rd/4th seed, then their flaws get exposed against a higher seeded team in the semifinals. :sleeping

Sort of true. Crawford sucks in the playoffs. The more structured game of the playoffs doesn't suit him and his D is a joke. We really can't do much about the bench because our roster is too top heavy. Doc is going to have to work some magic to fill out the bench. But we did get a guy with a lot of upside if things work out. We got a little better imo. Hawes really was worthless in 95% of the games and at Barnes' age, he can decline anytime.

[L8krH8tr]

I can already picture his Bernie Mac looking ass pouting on the bench and then cheering one minute later.

[ClipperRevival]

Since when could Lance play the 3 full time? Clippers still have a huge hole at the 3

He can play the 3 full time imo. Sure, he will be undersized against some 3s but for the most part, he should be fine. He is 6'6" and about 225 lbs with a 6'10.5" wingspan. That's not bad. He is the wing player this team desparately needed.

[Young X]

Sort of true. Crawford sucks in the playoffs. The more structured game of the playoffs doesn't suit him and his D is a joke. We really can't do much about the bench because our roster is too top heavy. Doc is going to have to work some magic to fill out the bench. But we did get a guy with a lot of upside if things work out. We got a little better imo. Hawes really was worthless in 95% of the games and at Barnes' age, he can decline anytime."Getting a little better" doesn't mean shit in the western conference when you're facing the Warriors, Thunder, Spurs, Rockets, and Grizzlies.

Unless they improve their bench, they will be in the same spot. They could realistically slip to the 6th-8th seed where they would have no chance of winning anything.

[boozehound]

not a terrible move from either side. Lance's value was at a real low, so getting a decent if underwhelming outside shooting big and a tone setting vet role player is pretty good.


if steph meshes, he is a solid piece on that team. Only 1 year (team option next year) and they have no cap to upgrade in FA.

[ihatetimthomas]

That's another 2nd round exit.

Still didn't fix the fact that they have the worst bench in the league.

Still have Crawford who will once again kill them in the playoffs.

Still will be a mediocre defense.

No backup big.

Austin Rivers getting major playoff minutes.

It's the same shit every year - win 56 games, get the 3rd/4th seed, then their flaws get exposed against a higher seeded team in the semifinals. :sleeping

There is a long off season still. Why does this deal mean they are done making deals and improving the bench? The finals haven't even finished, do you think the clippers are done for the off season? This is the first move made, not their last.

[Sarcastic]

He's only got a year left on his deal right? It's worth the risk if that's all that's left.

[Young X]

There is a long off season still. Why does this deal mean they are done making deals and improving the bench? The finals haven't even finished, do you think the clippers are done for the off season? This is the first move made, not their last.You're right, but I doubt they make any further improvements. Doc Rivers is an idiot GM, and I really don't see how this trade helps them. Could be wrong though.

[warriorfan]

as long as clips have Mr. 0/0 they will be pretenders

[HylianNightmare]

I can't believe that's all Charlotte gets

[GimmeThat]

Nerlen Noel would be the center that makes this team a contender.

Elton Brand DiD went from clippers to philly once.

[DMAVS41]

Don't see much of a downside here.

He's only on the books for this year before a team option.

The Clippers had no ability to do anything in the off season and this trade is a good risk to take.

What's the downside? They choke away a series lead and lose in the 2nd round? Seems like par for the course for this Paul/Doc led Clippers team.

The upside is quite big here as Lance might get back to playing his brand of basketball on a loaded team where he just has to fill in the gaps.

[ClipperRevival]

"Getting a little better" doesn't mean shit in the western conference when you're facing the Warriors, Thunder, Spurs, Rockets, and Grizzlies.

Unless they improve their bench, they will be in the same spot. They could realistically slip to the 6th-8th seed where they would have no chance of winning anything.

Thank GM Doc for that. We really have little to work with to dramatically improve. We would have to work some magic. It is what it is at this point.

[BlakFrankWhite]

:oldlol:

So Clipps will be chokers,betas and undisciplined.....excellent combo!

[KungFuJoe]

This is a great move. Lance had too much pressure on him with his new contract. He's better as a versatile third or even fourth option so he'll fit right in.

Oh. And **** Matt Barnes.

[KungFuJoe]

They need to dump Crawford though. As one dimensional as there is. It was a joke watching him trying to back up CP3 at times. Only reason Rivers got playing time was because Crawford can't run an offense to save his life. And zero defense.

[wally_world]

Clips did Barnes dirty imo

[Spurs m8]

Barnes is a dog so he probs deserves it.

Faux tough guy

[ihatetimthomas]

You're right, but I doubt they make any further improvements. Doc Rivers is an idiot GM, and I really don't see how this trade helps them. Could be wrong though.

I feel it's a pretty low risk high reward situation. He is basically a expiring deal and they unloaded Hawes contract who wasn't even playing at the end of the year. He is a playmaker who plays D and can help out the bench. They still have needs but clearly the makeup of the team last year was not going to cut it.

[dab0yech0]

I hear we are signing Paul Pierce outright or dealing Jamal Crawford for him.

That means:

DJ
Blake/Baby
Pierce/
Lance/JJ
CP/ Austin

Definitely need another backup big and another perimeter defender but I like where this is going

[BlackWhiteGreen]

:oldlol: Charlotte what the hell is this? Taking on MORE future salary for him?

[rufuspaul]

:oldlol: Charlotte what the hell is this? Taking on MORE future salary for him?

I don't think this is the end of dealing for the Hornets. Barnes has a clause in his contract that allows the team to drop him before the season starts. I think the Hornets will do just that. Hawes will split time as backup 4 and 5 and I can see the hornets trading Bismack. The Hornets will draft a shooter (Booker) at 9.

Lance could be a very good fit for the Clippers. He didn't work out in Charlotte because his game is too similar to Kemba's. Both need the ball a lot to score. What the Hornets lacked is 3pt shooting and Lance certainly didn't provide that, shooting an abysmal 17% last season.

For all the people saying Lance is a locker room cancer, Rich Cho said that he handled himself very professionally throughout the adversity last season, if you believe him.

[HurricaneKid]

For all the people saying Lance is a locker room cancer, Rich Cho said that he handled himself very professionally throughout the adversity last season, if you believe him.

Well if the GM that is trying to trade him says so it must be true.

Barnes was the soul of the Clippers. He was the guy that defended the oppositions best wing. He was the guy that stood up for Blake when other teams got overly physical. He was the guy that never got the ball but always contributed somehow. I think his absence is going to leave a gaping hole in that team.

[el gringos]

Good deal for both teams. Hawes is on a great contract and is a good match offensively for al Jefferson. Also fits Vonleh or zeller. Good 4 man rotation, and doesn't it save them enough to take another shot at a 1-3 guy in fa?


Clippers it allows them to trade Crawford or jj if they find the right deal for a second pg or a wing

[rufuspaul]

Good deal for both teams. Hawes is on a great contract and is a good match offensively for al Jefferson. Also fits Vonleh or zeller. Good 4 man rotation, and doesn't it save them enough to take another shot at a 1-3 guy in fa?


Clippers it allows them to trade Crawford or jj if they find the right deal for a second pg or a wing


We

[SwishSquared]

I hear we are signing Paul Pierce outright or dealing Jamal Crawford for him.

That means:

DJ
Blake/Baby
Pierce/
Lance/JJ
CP/ Austin

Definitely need another backup big and another perimeter defender but I like where this is goingHas Pierce made a decision on whether to opt out yet? If he opts-in and Doc can straight up trade JJ for him, that's not a bad move b/c it leaves them with an exception to snag a backup big man.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Talent wise makes a ton of sense for the Clips, but I hope chemistry wise it kills them.

[kshutts1]

I can imagine the phone call

Jordan: Hey Doc, would you like to have Stephenson on your team?

Doc: Well, not really...

Jordan: You sure? You don't have anything to offer for him?

Doc: Hawes and Barnes is the best I can give I guess...

Jordan: It's a deal. Bye

Doc: Wait! What? :mad:
Super underrated post. Especially because I can hear that in my head, and Jordan says "It'sadeal.Bye" so fast it's one word.
:roll:

[ClipperRevival]

Good deal for both teams. Hawes is on a great contract and is a good match offensively for al Jefferson. Also fits Vonleh or zeller. Good 4 man rotation, and doesn't it save them enough to take another shot at a 1-3 guy in fa?


Clippers it allows them to trade Crawford or jj if they find the right deal for a second pg or a wing

JJ had the best season of his career this year. He is infinitely better than Crawford. I love him but Crawford is a negative in the playoffs. On D, he is a joke and the structured game of the playoffs doesn't suit him. Anytime he steps on the floor, we are in the negative. He should still have some value as a great scorer off the bench for someone. Hopefully, Doc can turn him into a good big or a good wing player. That would really help our roster.

[bluechox2]

how soon until hes blowing into docs ear

[hawksdogsbraves]

The Hornets are honestly probably a bottom 2-3 franchise in the league right now. No stars, best young talent is a defensive specialist with a broken jumper, small market, and a GM making mind boggling moves.

Nets are probably in worse shape, but if Charlotte lets Biyombo walk and actually decides to give big minutes to Hawes while shooting for the 8 seed, (and inevitably falling short and winding up in the 10 seed again) then from a fan's perspective things look pretty hopeless. Bad coach, bad GM, no talent, and stuck on the 8-10 seed treadmill.

[keep-itreal]

I can imagine the phone call

Jordan: Hey Doc, would you like to have Stephenson on your team?

Doc: Well, not really...

Jordan: You sure? You don't have anything to offer for him?

Doc: Hawes and Barnes is the best I can give I guess...

Jordan: It's a deal. Bye

Doc: Wait! What? :mad:

:oldlol:

[Rooster]

JJ had the best season of his career this year. He is infinitely better than Crawford. I love him but Crawford is a negative in the playoffs. On D, he is a joke and the structured game of the playoffs doesn't suit him. Anytime he steps on the floor, we are in the negative. He should still have some value as a great scorer off the bench for someone. Hopefully, Doc can turn him into a good big or a good wing player. That would really help our roster.

You need Crawford though for the marathon regular season. Clips need to have the homecourt advantage throughout the playoff to give themselves a better chance and that's what Crawford brings on the regular season.

The trade was a high risk but it's worth to take it. Clips choked and can't get through second round so they definitely need some tweaking. Barnes is a step slower and Hawes was out of the rotation. They also have that team option on Lance so Lance has no other choice but to behave and perform. Maybe a chance of scenery will do him good.

[ClipperRevival]

You need Crawford though for the marathon regular season. Clips need to have the homecourt advantage throughout the playoff to give themselves a better chance and that's what Crawford brings on the regular season.

The trade was a high risk but it's worth to take it. Clips choked and can't get through second round so they definitely need some tweaking. Barnes is a step slower and Hawes was out of the rotation. They also have that team option on Lance so Lance has no other choice but to behave and perform. Maybe a chance of scenery will do him good.

I love Crawford but we don't need him. He is one of the guys that makes our offense look so good in the regular season but his play drops off considerably in the playoffs and that's what it's all about. I would rather take a less explosive guy who will be more solid in the playoffs over him.

[Cold soul]

Good calculated risk by Clippers but bad trade for Hornets who should of got more in return.

[rufuspaul]

Good calculated risk by Clippers but bad trade for Hornets who should of got more in return.

Like what? The Hornets have been trying to trade him since up until the deadline last season.

[Cold soul]

Like what? The Hornets have been trying to trade him since up until the deadline last season.

A draft pick? Hornets are a young team but desperately need ton of talent.

[ihatetimthomas]

I love Crawford but we don't need him. He is one of the guys that makes our offense look so good in the regular season but his play drops off considerably in the playoffs and that's what it's all about. I would rather take a less explosive guy who will be more solid in the playoffs over him.

To Crawfords defense, he was playing out of his mind up until he injured his calf. He returned only a little bit before the playoffs. I doubt he was 100%. He didn't appear to have the movement he had before he went down. I think at his price, you can't do much better. Even if he is a red season player, you need those wins in a loaded west.

[ihatetimthomas]

Like what? The Hornets have been trying to trade him since up until the deadline last season.
Goes to show you how badly they wanted him out. But I do think they could have gotten at least a 2nd round pick but I could be wrong. I guess his value was that low if they we're willing to take a big who had a terrible season.