Reminder: GSW is not a stacked team

[Vancouver-Grizz]

Its kinda funny that majority of the people think GSW should of swept Cleveland when Love went down and Irving got injured in game 1.

Before the season even started CLEVELAND was a 2/5 favorite to win it all and GSW odds were 34.

NOBODY thought in the beginning of the season would of expected the Warriors to be this good because the talent was not screaming championship contenders.

People mentioned that if GSW wins the Championship, it should be with an asterisk but many forget that this inexperienced team is not even suppose to be here. When you look at the roster of the GSWs, they are all role players except Curry. And yes, Thompson is not a star but a role player on a fat ass contract. If it were the Spurs then maybe I would consider them lucky.

Am I surprised that Cleveland was able to beat them back to back? Not at all! Experience is huge and GSW have ZERO other then Kerr. At least Cleveland's worlds best player LeBron including, M.Miller, J.Jones, Perkins, Marion, and Haywood all played in the finals.

So all that Asterisk talk is non sense and all the talk about LeBron should be finals MVP even if they do lose is complete garbage.

[Rocketswin2013]

NBA players are also not even good at basketball.

[Mr. Jabbar]

you are right. lebron just slipped from 30 to 35 all time as i read that

[Droid101]

Before the season even started CLEVELAND was a 2/5 favorite to win it all and GSW odds were 34.
This. Absolutely no excuses for a Cavs loss here. None.

[Fudge]

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
David Lee
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut
Shaun Livingston
Leandro Barbosa

Nope, stacked af.

[SouBeachTalents]

Its kinda funny that majority of the people think GSW should of swept Cleveland when Love went down and Irving got injured in game 1.

Before the season even started CLEVELAND was a 2/5 favorite to win it all and GSW odds were 34.

NOBODY thought in the beginning of the season would of expected the Warriors to be this good because the talent was not screaming championship contenders.

People mentioned that if GSW wins the Championship, it should be with an asterisk but many forget that this inexperienced team is not even suppose to be here. When you look at the roster of the GSWs, they are all role players except Curry. And yes, Thompson is not a star but a role player on a fat ass contract. If it were the Spurs then maybe I would consider them lucky.

Am I surprised that Cleveland was able to beat them back to back? Not at all! Experience is huge and GSW have ZERO other then Kerr. At least Cleveland's worlds best player LeBron including, M.Miller, J.Jones, Perkins, Marion, and Haywood all played in the finals.

So all that Asterisk talk is non sense and all the talk about LeBron should be finals MVP even if they do lose is complete garbage.

All those players experience have been huge in the Finals. They've all been difference makers on the court. No way this series goes to 6 games without their contributions

[BlakFrankWhite]

-Having the best backcourt in the league.
-Having 2 DPOY level players.
-Having a stacked bench...and prolly the 6th MOTY.
-being relatively injury free.

Aint stacked though.....you LBJ haters are so set in your ways...lol

[navy]

David Lee comes off the bench.

Not stacked though

[Rocketswin2013]

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
David Lee
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut
Shaun Livingston
Leandro Barbosa

Nope, stacked af.
They benched Speights and the guy had like the third best PER of the second half of the season. Guy was 6MOY material, and they've just benched him for the hell of it and are about to win it all.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

-Having the best backcourt in the league.
-Having 2 DPOY level players.
-Having a stacked bench...and prolly the 6th MOTY.
-being relatively injury free.

Aint stacked though.....you LBJ haters are so set in your ways...lol

Its also called Chemistry.

Green and Iggy and Bogut were not even considered as all nba defensive material until this season.

[1987_Lakers]

David Lee comes off the bench.

So does Iggy who has been a beast in these Finals.

Speights averaged like 10 ppg off the bench too.

Stacked.

[Magic 32]

http://s7.postimg.org/3ketb3ti3/yui.png

[Vancouver-Grizz]

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
David Lee
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut
Shaun Livingston
Leandro Barbosa

Nope, stacked af.


Then I ask you this....did you think GSWs was going to be a contender on the opening day of the regular season with this roster?

[1987_Lakers]

Green and Iggy and Bogut were not even considered as all nba defensive material until this season.

:wtf:

Iggy & Bogut were considered elite defenders way before they arrived to Golden State. Green just started his career and this was first year as a starter.

[J Shuttlesworth]

David Lee comes off the bench.

Not stacked though
David Lee would be the 2nd best scorer on the Cavs... ****ing crazy

[navy]

So does Iggy who has been a beast in these Finals.

Speights averaged like 10 ppg off the bench too.

Stacked.
Barbosa
Shawn Livingston
Andre Iggy
David Lee
Speights

That's literally an entire team off the bench. :oldlol:

What other team in the nba can say this?

[TheCorporation]

[x] 67-win team
[x] MVP Stephen Curry
[x] Idiotic thread
[x] You obviously don't know what the word stacked means


Curry, Klay, Iggy (as a 6th man!?), Green, Bogut, Barnes, Barbosa, Lee

How many teams would have:

David Lee, Iggy, Livingston, Barbosa come off the bench? lol How is this team not stacked?

[Fudge]

They benched Speights and the guy had like the third best PER of the second half of the season. Guy was 6MOY material, and they've just benched him for the hell of it and are about to win it all.
Holy shit. Forgot about Speights. :oldlol:

They had David ****ing Lee rotting on the bench all throughout the playoffs, just until like game 2 in the Finals. That's when you know.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Its also called Chemistry.

Green and Iggy and Bogut were not even considered as all nba defensive material until this season.


Who were Delly and Mozgov?....who had heard of them before this season?.LeBron has carried their sorry asses this far..

Iggy and Bogut were considered excellent defenders for years...

Keep wearing those hater glasses tho

[iTare]

Reminder: yes they are you f*cking idiot.

[Fudge]

Then I ask you this....did you think GSWs was going to be a contender on the opening day of the regular season with this roster?
Yeah.

They've been a borderline contender the past 2 or so years now. It was bound to happen.

They're stacked. That's the reality of it. You have to move on.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Look at this shit:

http://i.imgur.com/GbHRYya.png

They can get away with playing their highest paid player for 9 minutes, and not play their second highest player at all in game 5, and still win by 13. ****ing ridiculously stacked... and let's not forge that Iggy/Livingston generally come off the bench

[Rocketswin2013]

Speights scored 10 PPG on 15 MPG in 76 games this season. Doesn't even warrant minutes on this stacked GS roster.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Look at this shit:

http://i.imgur.com/GbHRYya.png

They can get away with playing their highest paid player for 9 minutes, and not play their second highest player at all in game 5, and still win by 13. ****ing ridiculously stacked... and let's not forge that Iggy/Livingston generally come off the bench

Andy V the Cavs 3rd highest paid player and the cavs can get away with not even having him

stacked then?

[BlakFrankWhite]

EPIC thread backfire

[warriorfan]

Look at this shit:

http://i.imgur.com/GbHRYya.png

They can get away with playing their highest paid player for 9 minutes, and not play their second highest player at all in game 5, and still win by 13. ****ing ridiculously stacked... and let's not forge that Iggy/Livingston generally come off the bench

meltdown

[navy]

Andy V the Cavs 3rd highest paid player and the cavs can get away with not even having him

stacked then?
Yeah if he could actually play.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Andy V the Cavs 3rd highest paid player and the cavs can get away with not even having him

stacked then?
Get away? You don't think they could use his presence right now? :lol

[Magic 32]

A lot of B+ players. Including his so-called "2nd option".

[oarabbus]

Look at this shit:

http://i.imgur.com/GbHRYya.png

They can get away with playing their highest paid player for 9 minutes, and not play their second highest player at all in game 5, and still win by 13. ****ing ridiculously stacked... and let's not forge that Iggy/Livingston generally come off the bench


You could also give credit to Myers and Lacob (and Jerry West) for making the right decisions and drafting their talent while acquiring the right pieces. They aren't "getting away" with shit. That's what good management looks like.

That being said, we are a extremely talented and deep team and OP might be retarded.


Its also called Chemistry.

Green and Iggy and Bogut were not even considered as all nba defensive material until this season.


Bogut was first draft pick for a reason :biggums:

[Norcaliblunt]

Guys like Livngston, Bogut, and Barbosa are players who were thought to be finished due to injuries the last few years.

[navy]

Guys like Livngston, Bogut, and Barbosa are players who were thought to be finished due to injuries the last few years.
Yeah the Warriors were smart and the chances they took payed off.

Let's be real though. Delladova right now is starting for the Cavs. Who's his backup when he gets tired? Literally nobody.

[Fudge]

Guys like Livngston, Bogut, and Barbosa are players who were thought to be finished due to injuries the last few years.
Livingston arguably had his best season last year in Brooklyn. Bogut averaged double figures in rebounds last year and actually stayed relatively healthy in comparison to other seasons.

Barbosa, yeah. Thought he was done ever since he left Phoenix.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

You could also give credit to Myers and Lacob (and Jerry West) for making the right decisions and drafting their talent while acquiring the right pieces. They aren't "getting away" with shit. That's what good management looks like.

That being said, we are a extremely talented and deep team and OP might be retarded.




Bogut was first draft pick for a reason :biggums:

and good chemistry. my point in this thread was to acknowledge that Warriors are still a young inexperienced team and that everyone was banking that they should roll the Cavs over even though they were not even considered as contenders before the season. Nobody thought they were crazy stacked coming in. They are deep team but not stacked. Bosh, Wade Lebron was STACKED. Allen, Pierce, Garnett STACKED. C.Paul, B.Griffin, D.Jordan STACKED!

[Fudge]

Curry
Thompson
Iguodala
Green
Bogut
Lee

STACKED!

[J Shuttlesworth]

You could also give credit to Myers and Lacob (and Jerry West) for making the right decisions and drafting their talent while acquiring the right pieces. They aren't "getting away" with shit. That's what good management looks like.

That being said, we are a extremely talented and deep team and OP might be retarded.




Bogut was first draft pick for a reason :biggums:
The management gets credit, of course. There's nothing wrong with being a stacked team. Just enjoy the benefits, ***** :cheers:

[Vancouver-Grizz]

Curry
Thompson
Iguodala
Green
Bogut
Lee

STACKED!


They had this team last year and no one was calling them STACKED. If GSW won 50 games this year and got in as the 8th seed, still stacked?

[oarabbus]

Curry
Thompson
Iguodala
Green
Bogut
Lee

STACKED!


Lee was in the doghouse multiple games and Bogut was nonexistent the entire series.

[oarabbus]

The management gets credit, of course. There's nothing wrong with being a stacked team. Just enjoy the benefits, ***** :cheers:


Haha for sure. :cheers:

[Magic 32]

Iguodala
Bogut
Lee

STACKED!

Rejects from the eastern conference. Played on consistently bad teams. Frequently off the bench.

[KembaWalker]

Barbosa
Shawn Livingston
Andre Iggy
David Lee
Speights

That's literally an entire team off the bench. :oldlol:

What other team in the nba can say this?

you can say that about any team :biggums:

[Fudge]

They had this team last year and no one was calling them STACKED. If GSW won 50 games this year and got in as the 8th seed, still stacked?
But they didn't. They finished first and no other team really came close in the West.

MVP (Curry)
2x All-stars (Thompson, Curry)
2 players that were top 6 in DPOY voting (Green, Bogut)
Far and away the best bench in the league.

This team is stacked. Dosen't change, no matter how you spin it.

[1987_Lakers]

They had this team last year and no one was calling them STACKED. If GSW won 50 games this year and got in as the 8th seed, still stacked?

They always had the talent, they just weren't used properly by Mark Jackson.

With Kerr having this team playing the right way and Draymond Green's emergence they became elite.

- MVP on the team
- Top 3 SG in Klay
- DPOY candidate Bogut
- DPOY candidate Green
- Extremely deep bench that has legit scorers and defenders

If that is not stacked I don't know what is.

[warriorfan]

But they didn't. They finished first and no other team really came close in the West.

MVP (Curry)
2x All-stars (Thompson, Curry)
2 players that were top 6 in DPOY voting (Green, Bogut)
Far and away the best bench in the league.

This team is stacked. Dosen't change, no matter how you spin it.

meltdown

[KembaWalker]

Quick question, if Cavs win the finals next season is their championship gonna have an asterisk due to being stacked? Like most people are implying with this GSW squad

Cause I'm pretty sure I've seen multiple poster say if Cavs were healthy it wouldn't even be close

[iTare]

But they didn't. They finished first and no other team really came close in the West.

MVP (Curry)
2x All-stars (Thompson, Curry)
2 players that were top 6 in DPOY voting (Green, Bogut)
Far and away the best bench in the league.

This team is stacked. Dosen't change, no matter how you spin it.
wish i could spin a rope around warriorfan's pencil neck and drag him through rough terrain.

[oarabbus]

Rejects from the eastern conference. Played on consistently bad teams. Frequently off the bench.

you can say that about any team :biggums:


:applause:

[Norcaliblunt]

Rejects from the eastern conference. Played on consistently bad teams. Frequently off the bench.

Not to mention they are all on the downside of their careers. These people acting like they are in their primes.

[navy]

you can say that about any team :biggums:
Cavs bench

Joe Harris
Mike Miller
Shawn Marion
James Jones
Kendrick Perkins

That's not an actual team. Unless winning 0 games counts.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

They always had the talent, they just weren't used properly by Mark Jackson.

With Kerr having this team playing the right way and Draymond Green's emergence they became elite.

.


A lot of people was upset about the firing and that M.Jackson did a great job. Kerr wins 67 and wipes everything away.

Again. All I am trying to point out is that it is the finals and there is no asterisk if GSW wins it all and that Cleveland has no excuses period. Cleveland destroyed ATL even before the injuries without Love.

[Fudge]

Not to mention they are all on the downside of their careers. These people acting like they are in their primes.
We finna act like Lee and Iggy wouldn't be showing flashes of their prime selves if they got the minutes they were consistently getting the past few seasons?

:hammerhead:

Hell, Iggy gets inserted into the starting lineup two games ago and look what he's doing.

Don't even give me that.

[Magic 32]

Cavs bench

Mike Miller
Shawn Marion
James Jones
Kendrick Perkins


All of them with championship experience.

How many on the Warriors had any finals experience?

[1987_Lakers]

A lot of people was upset about the firing and that M.Jackson did a great job. Kerr wins 67 and wipes everything away.

Wrong, alot of people including MYSELF thought he was holding this team back particularly on offense with too much ISO ball. I thought it was a good decision to fire him at the time.

[J Shuttlesworth]

All of them with championship experience.

How many on the Warriors had any finals experience?
lol it's crazy when someone's hatred leads them to this level of delusion.

[Magic 32]

lol it's crazy when someone's hatred leads them to this level of delusion.

Maybe Lebron should let them play.

[KembaWalker]

Cavs bench

Joe Harris
Mike Miller
Shawn Marion
James Jones
Kendrick Perkins

That's not an actual team. Unless winning 0 games counts.

Well uh last time I checked they ARE NBA players, which makes that squad an NBA team....

Also implying that the GSW bench team you listed would win over 10 games... :sleeping

[J Shuttlesworth]

Maybe Lebron should let them play.
Maybe Marion should magically heal his calf injury that has him basically retired.
Maybe Perkins should learn how to run up and down the floor in a small ball game.
Maybe Miller/Jones should play... oh wait, they have been. JJ getting 17 minutes a game, and Miller being a completely liability on defense when he's in the game.

Don't be so stupid.

[bobopenguin]

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
David Lee
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut
Shaun Livingston
Leandro Barbosa

Nope, stacked af.

funny, cos before this season, these guys are scrub according to most of u.

[bobopenguin]

Joe Harris
Mike Miller
Shawn Marion
James Jones
Kendrick Perkins


and all these were part of championship team...

[SyRyanYang]

They are certainly not stacked personnel wise.
Curry is pretty average as far as champion leaders go.
Klay is decent for a second option but has been rather inconsistent in the playoffs and especially the finals.
Barnes and Green are 3rd year players developed to fit their brand of basketball.
Bogut is washed up, can only play limited minutes and is a liability on offense.
Iggy is past his prime and struggle to hit consistent jumpers all year (unless Lebron is defending)
Lee is geart and should get more minutes if it weren't for the injury
The Brazilian blur went back to Brazil

No one talked about Mo and Livingston in the free agency and all of a sudden they make GS stacked???

Lots of teams have looked good on paper and failed miserably. GS are "stacked" because they're clicking on all cylinders and everyone plays to their strength. Give credit to Kerr and Myers for developing team chemistry and signing high IQ players that fit the team identity.

Personnel wise they aren't so different from last year's team who lost in the first round.

[Fudge]

funny, cos before this season, these guys are scrub according to most of u.
Yeah? Post some links to where you've seen us say this.

If you can't, go crawl back in your cage, put your helmet back on and shush. Wipe that drool off of your face while you're at it.

:banana:

https://www.deseretnews.com/interactive/2013/living-lonely/assets/sections/part_3/gallery_zach/lonely3_zach_02_sm.jpg

[Vancouver-Grizz]

They are certainly not stacked personnel wise.
Curry is pretty average as far as champion leaders go.
Klay is decent for a second option but has been rather inconsistent in the playoffs and especially the finals.
Barnes and Green are 3rd year players developed to fit their brand of basketball.
Bogut is washed up, can only play limited minutes and is a liability on offense.
Iggy is past his prime and struggle to hit consistent jumpers all year (unless Lebron is defending)
Lee is geart and should get more minutes if it weren't for the injury
The Brazilian blur went back to Brazil

No one talked about Mo and Livingston in the free agency and all of a sudden they make GS stacked???

Lots of teams have looked good on paper and failed miserably. GS are "stacked" because they're clicking on all cylinders and everyone plays to their strength. Give credit to Kerr and Myers for developing team chemistry and signing high IQ players that fit the team identity.

Personnel wise they aren't so different from last year's team who lost in the first round.


Ding Ding... Nothing against the GSWs... Just trying to end all that asterisk talk if they win. Winning is winning and all Lebron supporters are looking for every excuse if they lose.

[Magic 32]

https://www.deseretnews.com/interactive/2013/living-lonely/assets/sections/part_3/gallery_zach/lonely3_zach_02_sm.jpg

Is that the guy in your avatar?

[1987_Lakers]

They are certainly not stacked personnel wise.
Curry is pretty average as far as champion leaders go.
Klay is decent for a second option but has been rather inconsistent in the playoffs and especially the finals.
Barnes and Green are 3rd year players developed to fit their brand of basketball.
Bogut is washed up, can only play limited minutes and is a liability on offense.
Iggy is past his prime and struggle to hit consistent jumpers all year (unless Lebron is defending)
Lee is geart and should get more minutes if it weren't for the injury
The Brazilian blur went back to Brazil

No one talked about Mo and Livingston in the free agency and all of a sudden they make GS stacked???

Lots of teams have looked good on paper and failed miserably. GS are "stacked" because they're clicking on all cylinders and everyone plays to their strength. Give credit to Kerr and Myers for developing team chemistry and signing high IQ players that fit the team identity.

Personnel wise they aren't so different from last year's team who lost in the first round.

The nitpicking in this post is hilarious.:oldlol:

[Young X]

They have 10 guys who can step in and contribute in any game.

Curry
Thompson
Green
Igoudala
Barnes
Bogut
Lee
Livingston
Barbosa
Speights

Besides Bogut, everyone of these guys have stepped up and contributed at some point of time during these finals alone.

[jstern]

You wrote that before the season started Cleveland was favorite to win the whole thing 2/5, and that nobody expected much out of Golden State.

But I don't understand your logic? The fact of the matter is that Golden State won 67 games, and Cleveland is missing is playing without two of its stars.

So does the 67 games won mean nothing, just because before the season started people speculated this and that? Should the odds of Cleveland winning it all be at 2/5 without Irving Love?

[Norcaliblunt]

Lol what championship level team doesn't have players who can step up.

[SyRyanYang]

They have 10 guys who can step in and contribute in any game.

Curry
Thompson
Green
Igoudala
Barnes
Bogut
Lee
Livingston
Barbosa
Speights

Besides Bogut, everyone of these guys have stepped up and contributed at some point of time during these finals alone.

Players play well in a certain system doesn't make the team stacked. Can they step up and contributed on any team?

[Norcaliblunt]

Are Cavs and lebron fans really crying about injuries? Haha.

[Young X]

Players play well in a certain system doesn't make the team stacked. Can they step up and contributed on any team?So what makes a team stacked then?

They have the MVP, another all star, about 5 excellent defensive players, 2 former (recent) all stars on their bench, a bunch of smart, disciplined role players and they play well together as a team. That's a stacked team.

[oarabbus]

So what makes a team stacked then?

They have the MVP, another all star, about 5 excellent defensive players, 2 former (recent) all stars on their bench, a bunch of smart, disciplined role players and they play well together as a team.

You can do that for any team (in the West)

Clippers? They have CP3 Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. Stacked.


Spurs? Multiple hall of famers led by a legend who at this point in time has accomplished more than LeBron James. Tons of dudes with finals experience, the reigining FMVP. Stacked.

[Fudge]

You can do that for any team (in the West)

Clippers? They have CP3 Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. Stacked.


Spurs? Multiple hall of famers led by a legend who at this point in time has accomplished more than LeBron James. Tons of dudes with finals experience, the reigining FMVP. Stacked.
You named two teams. And theyre both considered stacked, and they were both considered contenders before the season started. But neither team has the amount of talent that GSW does.

What's your point?

[eriX]

I think you guys are defending GSW being stacked as a bad thing which is the consensus amongst trolls on ISH. Reality is more stacked the better. GSW is stacked, some of their best players are still on rookie contracts aka klay and green makes combined 4mill according to that table before and Curry is making 12. If we went into free agency right now, these 3 players will all be worth 10 mill +, Curry probably close to 18+. But this is good management from GSW to achieve a stacked team.

Cavs are also decently stacked if Kyrie and love hadn't gone down, but who would've thought delly, thompson and mozgov would step up their intensity to a much higher degree in the finals when they were just role players before. Again good management from the Cavs in believing in these players.

[Young X]

What does? You can do that for any team (in the West)

Clippers? They have CP3 Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. Stacked.

Spurs? Multiple hall of famers led by a legend who at this point in time has accomplished more than LeBron James. Tons of dudes with finals experience, the reigining FMVP. Stacked.Clippers had CP, Blake, DJ, Redick and then the rest of their team is complete garbage. They had Austin Rivers and Big Baby Davis getting major minutes.

Rockets had Harden, Dwight (injured), Jones, Ariza, Brewer and then...Smith? Motiejunas? Beverly (injured)?

Thunder had Westbrook, injured KD (only played 27 games), Ibaka, Kanter and then... Morrow? Waiters lol?

Grizzlies had Gasol, Z-Bo, Conley, Allen and then...

None of these teams come close to being as stacked as Golden State.

[SyRyanYang]

So what makes a team stacked then?

They have the MVP, another all star, about 5 excellent defensive players, 2 former (recent) all stars on their bench, a bunch of smart, disciplined role players and they play well together as a team. That's a stacked team.

Having multiple top players that were established and in their prime makes a team stacked (i.e. the Heat). Having role players players playing to their full strength doesn't.

[eriX]

Having multiple top players that were established and in their prime makes a team stacked (i.e. the Heat). Having role players players playing to their full strength doesn't.

basketball is a team game.

[SyRyanYang]

basketball is a team game.

Thanks Magic:rolleyes:

[Fudge]

Having multiple top players that were established and in their prime makes a team stacked (i.e. the Heat). Having role players players playing to their full strength doesn't.
LeBron James
Klay Thompson
Goran Dragic
Serge Ibaka
Draymond Green
Tyson Chandler
Tony Allen

Not stacked, people.

Why? They don't have multiple top tier players. Just a bunch of role players that are just...really good. I repeat, not stacked because they have a bunch of great role players and only ONE star.

Guys, not stacked. Again, NOT stacked.

:hammerhead:

[Sarcastic]

As per Lebron the other day, the Cavs have the "best player in the world". No excuses.

[SyRyanYang]

LeBron James
Klay Thompson
Goran Dragic
Serge Ibaka
Draymond Green
Tyson Chandler
Tony Allen

Not stacked, people.

Why? They don't have multiple top tier players. Just a bunch of role players that are just...really good. I repeat, not stacked because they have a bunch of great role players and only ONE star.

Guys, not stacked. Again, NOT stacked.

:hammerhead:

What makes you so sure this team will win it all?:rolleyes:
Oh and both Klay and Serge are borderline all-stars, not exactly role players

[Kvnzhangyay]

What makes you so sure this team will win it all?:rolleyes:
Oh and both Klay and Serge are borderline all-stars, not exactly role players

If that team doesn't win it all then half the team must be injured :biggums:

[Fudge]

What makes you so sure this team will win it all?:rolleyes:
Oh and both Klay and Serge are borderline all-stars, not exactly role players
Borderline all-star? Klay IS an all-star.

If Serge is a borderline all star, then Draymond is one too. Just as impactful with almost similar production.

So what's the problem here?

[Young X]

Fudge talkin' that shit :applause:

[SyRyanYang]

Borderline all-star? Klay IS an all-star.

If Serge is a borderline all star, then Draymond is one too. Just as impactful with almost similar production.

So what's the problem here?

Problem is, the Warriors have 3 max players in Curry, Klay and Green, which is pretty average for a championship contender.
Your team has 5.

[SyRyanYang]

If that team doesn't win it all then half the team must be injured :biggums:

I've said before, there are many teams in the past that looked great on paper and failed miserably.

Many people believed that a team consisted of Kobe, Dwight, Pau and Nash can easily win it all. Look how that turned out.

[Fudge]

Problem is, the Warriors have 3 max players in Curry, Klay and Green, which is pretty average for a championship contender.
Your team has 5.
Don't switch up now. They're all role players. Doesn't matter how good they are, they're just role players. Just going by what you said.

Built a team a with one star and bunch of role players, depending how good they are is on you.

Not stacked.

[TheCorporation]

A lot of B+ players. Including his so-called "2nd option".

Please tell me which teams are full of better players? Please find me a team that has better talent than:

Curry
Klay
Iggy
Barnes
Green
Bogut
Lee
Livingston
Barbosa
Speights

I'll wait...

Hell, find me a team with as much talent as their second/bench team

Livingston
Barbosa
Iggy
Speights
Lee

[TheCorporation]

As per Lebron the other day, the Cavs have the "best player in the world". No excuses.

You seem lost, read the thread title again. We're talking about the GSW and how stacked they are.

Reading > You

[SyRyanYang]

Don't switch up now. They're all role players. Doesn't matter how good they are, they're just role players. Just going by what you said.

Built a team a with one star and bunch of role players, depending how good they are is on you.

Not stacked.

Who's switching up now?:lol

[Fudge]

Just like I thought. I win...again.:pimp:

Golden State is stacked. You know it, and your ugly Asian whore mother knows it, Ryan. :)

[bobopenguin]

LeBron James
Klay Thompson
Goran Dragic
Serge Ibaka
Draymond Green
Tyson Chandler
Tony Allen

Not stacked, people.

Why? They don't have multiple top tier players. Just a bunch of role players that are just...really good. I repeat, not stacked because they have a bunch of great role players and only ONE star.

Guys, not stacked. Again, NOT stacked.

:hammerhead:

good luck with the salary.
u have to take that into consideration.
warrior has to blow it up one day.

[SyRyanYang]

Please tell me which teams are full of better players? Please find me a team that has better talent than:

Curry
Klay
Iggy
Barnes
Green
Bogut
Lee
Livingston
Barbosa
Speights

I'll wait...

Hell, find me a team with as much talent as their second/bench team

Livingston
Barbosa
Iggy
Speights
Lee
Lee was a starter before he got injured.

Barbosa went back to Brazil become no one wanted him, Livingston was a backup PG for the Nets, Speights was also a bench player, averaging 8 points the year before he signed with the Warriros. All of a sudden, the players no one wanted made the Warriors stacked?

[SyRyanYang]

Just like I thought. I win...again.:pimp:

Golden State is stacked. You know it, and your ugly Asian whore mother knows it, Ryan. :)

The guy who has to resort to name-calling thinks he wins:lol
Oh dear, should I give you a trophy?

[TheCorporation]

Lee was a starter before he got injured.

Barbosa went back to Brazil become no one wanted him, Livingston was a backup PG for the Nets, Speights was also a bench player, averaging 8 points the year before he signed with the Warriros. All of a sudden, the players no one wanted made the Warriors stacked?

The Warriors are so stacked they didn't even "need" to play their #1 paid player (David Lee) except sparingly for a few minutes here and there.

They also had Andre Igoudala coming off the bench. Let that sink in.

Barbosa & Speights are nice scoring sparks off the bench, and to have Livingston too, that's just nuts.

Need I remind you these aren't their starters...They still then have

Curry, Klay, Barnes, Green, Bogut

Let it sink in please.

[The Iron Fist]

Who were Delly and Mozgov?....who had heard of them before this season?.LeBron has carried their sorry asses this far..

Iggy and Bogut were considered excellent defenders for years...

Keep wearing those hater glasses tho
If Cleveland's roster is so bad, why did Bron choose to go there?

[The Iron Fist]

Cavs bench

Joe Harris
Mike Miller
Shawn Marion
James Jones
Kendrick Perkins

That's not an actual team. Unless winning 0 games counts.
Legm chose them though.

[TheCorporation]

If Cleveland's roster is so bad, why did Bron choose to go there?

You do know three of their starters are hurt, right?

Just in case you didn't know:

Kyrie Irving
Kevin Love
Anderson Varajao

No team in the planet would win a Finals without their #2, #3 and arguable #4 or #5 player on the team.

That's like taking Pippen, Rodman, and maybe Kerr from the Bulls. Jordan was 1-9 before Pippen. Imagine MJ not having Pippen or Rodman or Kerr.

[The Iron Fist]

You do know three of their starters are hurt, right?

Just in case you didn't know:

Kyrie Irving
Kevin Love
Anderson Varajao

No team in the planet would win a Finals without their #2, #3 and arguable #4 or #5 player on the team.

That's like taking Pippen, Rodman, and maybe Kerr from the Bulls. Jordan was 1-9 before Pippen. Imagine MJ not having Pippen or Rodman or Kerr.
Answer the question.

[Euroleague]

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
David Lee
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut
Shaun Livingston
Leandro Barbosa

Nope, stacked af.

Does not looked stacked at all to me. More like proof of how weak the NBA is.

Out of this year's 4 Euroleague Final Four teams,

Fenerbache Ulker
Real Madrid
CSKA Moscow
Olympiacos Piraeus

The only team that the Warriors are better than compared to those 4 teams is Fenerbahce Ulker.

[SyRyanYang]

The Warriors are so stacked they didn't even "need" to play their #1 paid player (David Lee) except sparingly for a few minutes here and there.

Easily one of the worst contracts in the league right now.




X & Y are nice scoring sparks off the bench, and to have Z too, that's just nuts.

Could have said the same thing about any team.



Need I remind you these aren't their starters...They still then have

Curry, Klay, Barnes, Green, Bogut

Let it sink in please.


Curry 7th pick
Klay 11th pick
Barnes 7th pick
Green 35th pick

None of them was overwhelming talent before the Warriors drafted and developed them

[Euroleague]

Lee was a starter before he got injured.

Barbosa went back to Brazil become no one wanted him, Livingston was a backup PG for the Nets, Speights was also a bench player, averaging 8 points the year before he signed with the Warriros. All of a sudden, the players no one wanted made the Warriors stacked?

Barbosa is obviously not the player he used to be, but I don't think playing in Brazil is relevant. In case you are unaware, the league in Brazil is quite good.

Outside of the elite European leagues, it's the best international league. And the best players make a lot of money there. So the fact that Barbosa played in his home country for a while, for one of the biggest clubs there, for a lot of money, after he came of a knee injury is irrelevant.

To keep mentioning it is to continue to fall for this NBA marketing BULLSHIT. Just because some retarded announcer brings it up, as part of NBA MARKETING GIMMICKS, trying always to make basketball outside of NBA look worse than it is, and NBA look better than it is, because he is PAID TO DO SO, does not mean you have to mindlessly fall for it.

It's just marketing brainwashing.

[Funktion]

Cousins, for Lee, Barnes, and Bogut

[monkeypox]

One of the weakest two teams in a final that I've ever seen. I really like GS but man, they're not actually that good for an NBA championship team (if they even win it.)

[Sarcastic]

You seem lost, read the thread title again. We're talking about the GSW and how stacked they are.

Reading > You

Regardless of their degree of stackedness, our god should be able to persevere through any obstacle in front of him. It's what goats are made of.

[dunksby]

There is nothing wrong with being stacked, but there is something seriously wrong with OP's head.

[Prime_Shaq]

Stacked and a good team but not an all-time great team IMO.

[nzahir]

you are right. kobe just slipped from 30 to 35 all time as i read that

I wouldnt go that far but thats your opinion

[Clifton]

Then I ask you this....did you think GSWs was going to be a contender on the opening day of the regular season with this roster?
What's your point? Does Lebron have to play against the team of my incorrect estimations of 10 months ago, or the team that's actually out there?

Because the team that's actually out there has 2 top-5 DPOY candidates in its frontcourt and 6 guys in its backcourt that would score 18ppg on almost any other team.

[Clifton]

Stacked and a good team but not an all-time great team IMO.
They should be. They shouldn't be as good as they are, because Stephen Curry *should* only be as good as Chauncey Billups or Damian Lillard. Instead he's going to be an all-time great. If Curry can stay healthy, he will be in a very select company of elites when he retires. I still don't think people realize just how good the guy is at basketball. He's little so folks fool themselves into thinking he wills himself to 30 point games by just hoisting up 30 footers. His impact goes way beyond that. He draws defenses' attention at Allen Iverson-like proportions, but without any of AI's ball-stopping and other flaws... and he's able to do it 30 feet away from the basket, not just in the paint.

If Curry were anyone else this would just be another ho-hum 50-win Western Conference team that wins maybe 1-2 rings, like those 00s Mavs.

[Fudge]

Does not looked stacked at all to me. More like proof of how weak the NBA is.

Out of this year's 4 Euroleague Final Four teams,

Fenerbache Ulker
Real Madrid
CSKA Moscow
Olympiacos Piraeus

The only team that the Warriors are better than compared to those 4 teams is Fenerbahce Ulker.
Shut the hell up, Eurotrash. Never quote a post of mine ever again.

[Fudge]

What's your point? Does Lebron have to play against the team of my incorrect estimations of 10 months ago, or the team that's actually out there?

Because the team that's actually out there has 2 top-5 DPOY candidates in its frontcourt and 6 guys in its backcourt that would score 18ppg on almost any other team.
:bowdown:

Shut it down.

[Jacks3]

They should be. They shouldn't be as good as they are, because Stephen Curry *should* only be as good as Chauncey Billups or Damian Lillard. Instead he's going to be an all-time great. If Curry can stay healthy, he will be in a very select company of elites when he retires. I still don't think people realize just how good the guy is at basketball. He's little so folks fool themselves into thinking he wills himself to 30 point games by just hoisting up 30 footers. His impact goes way beyond that. He draws defenses' attention at Allen Iverson-like proportions, but without any of AI's ball-stopping and other flaws... and he's able to do it 30 feet away from the basket, not just in the paint.

If Curry were anyone else this would just be another ho-hum 50-win Western Conference team that wins maybe 1-2 rings, like those 00s Mavs.

Agreed that Curry is underrated but if he were anybody else they wouldn't even sniff 1 ring.

[LBJMVP]

meltdown

this guys only arguement against fact is to type meltdown :roll: :roll:

[scm5]

If the Cavs were healthy, they would easily be the most stacked team in the league.

Lebron > Curry
Kyrie >> Klay
Love > Green
Varejao = Lee
Mozgov = Bogut
Thompson = Iguodala
JR > Barbosa
Shumpert < Livingston
Dellevadova < Speights

In terms of talent, the Cavs have more. GSW just pieces together really well and have players that buy into the team. No one player dominates the ball and it works really well.

[coast2coast]

GSW is not a stacked team

2014-2015 Golden State Warriors are the 7th best team in NBA history.

I assume that your definition of "not stacked" refers to lack of height in the starting rotation for the last game?

Anything else would bring into question your basketball IQ, which would appear to be low.

[riseagainst]

This. Absolutely no excuses for a Cavs loss here. None.

you are a certified retard.

:lol
:roll:

[LBJMVP]

If the Cavs were healthy, they would easily be the most stacked team in the league.

Lebron > Curry
Kyrie >> Klay
Love > Green
Varejao = Lee
Mozgov = Bogut
Thompson = Iguodala
JR > Barbosa
Shumpert < Livingston
Dellevadova < Speights

In terms of talent, the Cavs have more. GSW just pieces together really well and have players that buy into the team. No one player dominates the ball and it works really well.

well when you take away kyrie, love, and varajoe all you have left is jr being better than barbosa and even that is debatable this series :lol

you forgot to add barnes as well... no instead of love put in james jones, and instead of irving put in mike miller, and instead of varajoe put kendrick perkins or haywood haha

[HurricaneKid]

Green and Iggy and Bogut were not even considered as all nba defensive material until this season.

Iggy was 1st team all Def LAST YEAR.

There is literally an overflowing of stupid coming from the board lately.

[scm5]

well when you take away kyrie, love, and varajoe all you have left is jr being better than barbosa and even that is debatable this series :lol

you forgot to add barnes as well... no instead of love put in james jones, and instead of irving put in mike miller, and instead of varajoe put kendrick perkins or haywood haha

Yeah but also take into account what each team accomplished in the regular season. GSW put up all-time numbers in terms of offense and defense.

Talent wise, yes they are pretty stacked, but it's also because they are so well put together.

[Braincells]

lol

Speights is terrible and a black hole on offense. He missed a wide open dunk in game 2 that could have been the difference.

[Rose'sACL]

Yeah but also take into account what each team accomplished in the regular season. GSW put up all-time numbers in terms of offense and defense.

Talent wise, yes they are pretty stacked, but it's also because they are so well put together.
Cavs were right there when love, kyrie and other role players were healthy.

Why does this forum act like kyrie and love are not hurt?

[LBJMVP]

Cavs were right there when love, kyrie and other role players were healthy.

Why does this forum act like kyrie and love are not hurt?

cause it hurts their agenda. then some people go as far as to say that the team is better off without them cause of defense?

yah, cleveland is better off without irving who MVP of the FIBA world cup and an Allstar MVP can score from anywhere and also is a little underrated on defense and better off with delly... and there also better off with james jones instead of love who can routinely put up 20 and 12

[toxicxr6]

Does not looked stacked at all to me. More like proof of how weak the NBA is.

Out of this year's 4 Euroleague Final Four teams,

Fenerbache Ulker
Real Madrid
CSKA Moscow
Olympiacos Piraeus

The only team that the Warriors are better than compared to those 4 teams is Fenerbahce Ulker.


The only thing that sucks more than those euro league teams is your opinion

Please don't post anymore

The frekkin Knicks would murder all those teams.. The frekkin Knicks !!

[Vancouver-Grizz]

Maybe it is me then. Cause all I see is a bunch of role players playing great basketball with good communication with the coaching staff. I never argued that the GSW wasn't good, just not stacked. They all came to play and understood their role kinda like the Detroit Pistons that won it all.

Reason why I even started this post was to stop all that asterisk talk if the Warriors win which is quite annoying considering they rolled the west against teams that WERE stacked like the Clippers.

[ZMonkey11]

25% of this board has a neurodegenerative disease. You can tell by the stupidity of the OPs.

[NBASTATMAN]

67 WINS in the West with Great competition is STACKED... Curry makes them stacked though.. Without him they win 50 games at best

[Fudge]

Maybe it is me then. Cause all I see is a bunch of role players playing great basketball with good communication with the coaching staff. I never argued that the GSW wasn't good, just not stacked. They all came to play and understood their role kinda like the Detroit Pistons that won it all.

Reason why I even started this post was to stop all that asterisk talk if the Warriors win which is quite annoying considering they rolled the west against teams that WERE stacked like the Clippers.
Do you even know WHY they're run is being labelled with an asterisk? :rolleyes:

It's because they've been "steamrolling" hobbled teams. Literally every team they've run into so far, have had significant injuries to either star players, or solid game changing role players.

And no, they didn't face this "stacked" Clippers that you speak of, nor the Spurs, who, according to a few people in this thread, are some of the most stacked teams in the West.

Hold this big, fat....
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Asterisk_font_awesome.svg/512px-Asterisk_font_awesome.svg.png

[Vancouver-Grizz]

67 WINS in the West with Great competition is STACKED... Curry makes them stacked though.. Without him they win 50 games at best


They won 51 the previous year with Steph and no one called them STACKED

[Euroleague]

Shut the hell up, Eurotrash. Never quote a post of mine ever again.

The truth hurts a-hole. Even a lot of the biggest NBA only fans in Europe these days are laughing at how bad both of these teams in the finals are and are basically admitting neither one could win a Euroleague title. And I am talking about NBA only fans - people that believe the bullshit NBA, Nike, Gatorade, ESPN, ABC, TNT, etc. marketing about the NBA being a billion times better than the Euroleague.

But no one that's actually seen both leagues can actually believe it anymore, no matter how biased they are towards the NBA.

Just 5 years ago a team like the Suns was much better than the Warriors, but basically same type of team, and they never even got to the finals. Name one team from the Heat the last 4 years that would not have absolutely destroyed this Cavs team.

And that's not even getting into the discussion of how teams like 2011 Dallas that won the title were already exponentially weaker than NBA champions from typical past recent eras - yet that team would destroy both of these teams in this final easily.

The NBA level somehow gets worse and worse every year, and honestly at this point I don't even understand why or what is causing it. But the level it is dropping is obvious and significant at this point. A team like this Warriors would never sniff a NBA title since the 80s up until this year.

[Euroleague]

The only thing that sucks more than those euro league teams is your opinion

Please don't post anymore

The frekkin Knicks would murder all those teams.. The frekkin Knicks !!

The Knicks would win like 1-2 games in Euroleague, at best probably.

[Fudge]

The truth hurts a-hole. Even a lot of the biggest NBA only fans in Europe these days are laughing at how bad both of these teams in the finals are and are basically admitting neither one could win a Euroleague title. And I am talking about NBA only fans - people that believe the bullshit NBA, Nike, Gatorade, ESPN, ABC, TNT, etc. marketing about the NBA being a billion times better than the Euroleague.

But no one that's actually seen both leagues can actually believe it anymore, no matter how biased they are towards the NBA.

Just 5 years ago a team like the Suns was much better than the Warriors, but basically same type of team, and they never even got to the finals. Name one team from the Heat the last 4 years that would not have absolutely destroyed this Cavs team.

And that's not even getting into the discussion of how teams like 2011 Dallas that won the title were already exponentially weaker than NBA champions from typical past recent eras - yet that team would destroy both of these teams in this final easily.

The NBA level somehow gets worse and worse every year, and honestly at this point I don't even understand why or what is causing it. But the level it is dropping is obvious and significant at this point. A team like this Warriors would never sniff a NBA title since the 80s up until this year.
http://s11.postimg.org/du8n15sap/white_kid_dance_club_Edit.gif

[oarabbus]

Do you even know WHY they're run is being labelled with an asterisk? :rolleyes:

It's because they've been "steamrolling" hobbled teams. Literally every team they've run into so far, have had significant injuries to either star players, or solid game changing role players.

And no, they didn't face this "stacked" Clippers that you speak of, nor the Spurs, who, according to a few people in this thread, are some of the most stacked teams in the West.

Hold this big, fat....
IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Asterisk_font_awesome.svg/512px-Asterisk_font_awesome.svg.png[/IMG]


Warriors living Rent Free!!

[Dro]

How are they NOT stacked? lol

[tmacattack33]

Its kinda funny that majority of the people think GSW should of swept Cleveland when Love went down and Irving got injured in game 1.

Before the season even started CLEVELAND was a 2/5 favorite to win it all and GSW odds were 34.

NOBODY thought in the beginning of the season would of expected the Warriors to be this good because the talent was not screaming championship contenders.

People mentioned that if GSW wins the Championship, it should be with an asterisk but many forget that this inexperienced team is not even suppose to be here. When you look at the roster of the GSWs, they are all role players except Curry. And yes, Thompson is not a star but a role player on a fat ass contract. If it were the Spurs then maybe I would consider them lucky.

Am I surprised that Cleveland was able to beat them back to back? Not at all! Experience is huge and GSW have ZERO other then Kerr. At least Cleveland's worlds best player LeBron including, M.Miller, J.Jones, Perkins, Marion, and Haywood all played in the finals.

So all that Asterisk talk is non sense and all the talk about LeBron should be finals MVP even if they do lose is complete garbage.

Fukk outta here with this off-season odds crap. :roll:

And get the fukk outta here talking about Kendrick Perkins and Shawn Marion's Finals experience. :oldlol: Not sure if you've been watching, but i don't think either has played a single minute in the Finals. And Haywood hasn't played all playoffs. What in the fukk.

[tmacattack33]

Maybe it is me then. Cause all I see is a bunch of role players playing great basketball with good communication with the coaching staff. I never argued that the GSW wasn't good, just not stacked. They all came to play and understood their role kinda like the Detroit Pistons that won it all.

Reason why I even started this post was to stop all that asterisk talk if the Warriors win which is quite annoying considering they rolled the west against teams that WERE stacked like the Clippers.



Your argument doesn't even make sense.

Your argument: Golden State doesn't deserve an asterisks, because they were never supposed to be this good in the first place.



That's some faulty logic right there.

[50_40_90_]

Miami Heat's 2013 championship needs an asterisk.

-Lebron
-Wade
-Bosh
-James Jones
-Mario Chalmers
-Udonis Haslem
-Birdman
-Mike Miller
-Rashard Lewis
-Shane Battier

STACKED!

Spurs were lucky to make it to game 7

This team has no regard for human life!

[1987_Lakers]

A player who did not start a single game for the Warriors during the regular season just won Finals MVP. Not stacked though.:oldlol:

[houston]

agree with the op

[riseagainst]

OP is absolutely correct. GSW is not stacked. Stacked means having multiple franchise level players on the same team. GSW only has 1 such player and his name is Andre Iguodala.

[ArbitraryWater]

Its also called Chemistry.

Green and Iggy and Bogut were not even considered as all nba defensive material until this season.

:roll: :roll: