GOATs and BOATs.

[Rocketswin2013]

Pat Riley came up with BOAT, and it is based purely on raw ability, nothing more.

GOAT(Greatest players of All-time):
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Duncan
6. Shaq
7. Magic
8. Kobe
9. Bird
10. LeBron

BOAT(Best players of All-time):
1. LeBron
2. Wilt
3. Shaq
4. MJ
5. Kareem
6. Magic
7. Duncan
8. Hakeem
9. Bird
10. West

That is all.

[Kvnzhangyay]

It's hard to place Bird and Kobe in front of Lebron now, IMO.

All 3 of them have had a fair share of playoff letdowns and such, but other than that my list is pretty similar

[Westbrook0]

Pat Riley came up with BOAT, and it is based purely on raw ability, nothing more.

GOAT(Greatest players of All-time):
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Duncan
6. Shaq
7. Magic
8. Kobe
9. Bird
10. LeBron

BOAT(Best players of All-time):
1. LeBron
2. Wilt
3. Shaq
4. MJ
5. Kareem
6. Magic
7. Duncan
8. Hakeem
9. Bird
10. West

That is all.


Interesting topic.

BOAT

1. Michael Jordan - Jordan's younger years, when he averages something like 32, 8 and 8 while being an incredible defender, are just unheard of in the modern game. Even in his prime, where he was winning championships, he was purely a better basketball player than anyone who has ever played the game.

2. LeBron - Agreed here.
3. Oscar Robertson (No way he is outside the top five if we are talking BOAT instead of GOAT)
4. Shaq
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Hakeem
8. Kareem (When we're taking accomplishments, titles, longevity and accolades into account, he's no. 2 greatest.)
9. Wilt
10. Duncan

[RoundMoundOfReb]

GOAT:
1. LeBron James

BOAT:
1. LeBron James

[Kvnzhangyay]

Interesting topic.

BOAT

1. Michael Jordan - Jordan's younger years, when he averages something like 32, 8 and 8 while being an incredible defender, are just unheard of in the modern game. Even in his prime, where he was winning championships, he was purely a better basketball player than anyone who has ever played the game.

2. LeBron - Agreed here.
3. Oscar Robertson (No way he is outside the top five if we are talking BOAT instead of GOAT)
4. Shaq
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Hakeem
8. Kareem (When we're taking accomplishments, titles, longevity and accolades into account, he's no. 2 greatest.)
9. Wilt
10. Duncan

For me, the BOAT is
1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Shaq
4. Hakeem

I'm not quite sure how BOAT is ranked though, so I just did by peak?

[Fallen Angel]

Lebron being a streaky/below average shooter is really nothing to be proud of. His FT% (mid-70% averages) is even below what you'd want a an elite perimeter player. In recent years he's even become very choosy on when he wants to defend with intent.

BOAT:

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Bird
4. Kobe
5. Hakeem
6. Shaq
7. Lebron
8. Magic
9. Duncan
10. Oscar

[Magic 32]

I wonder how Pat feels about that statement now.

In the same interview he also said that the 2012 dream team would blow the 1992 team out of the water.

But he finally learned who Lebron really is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA5f-QizXYE

[scandisk_]

you can make a case for bron on top3 BOAT, but the best evar? nahhh

that's MJ and Kareem

top 3 goat

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. KAJ

top 3 boat

1. MJ/Kareem
2. Wilt/Shaq
3. Magic/Bird/Bran

[Prime_Shaq]

GOAT:
1) MJ
2) KAJ
3) Russell

BOAT:
1) MJ
2) Shaq
3) KAJ

[SyRyanYang]

Lebron is an overrated defender, no where near the level of the likes of MJ, Wilt, Hakeem and KAJ. Offensively he's not as good as Shaq or Bird.

7th BOAT at best

[tomtucker]

video of the greatest boats
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLWHzEP_0Rw

[NZStreetBaller]

why are people so obsessed with top 10 GOAT list seriously everytime that is in a thread you end up with 4+ pages. who damn cares where people rank players.

[SyRyanYang]

why are people so obsessed with top 10 GOAT list seriously everytime that is in a thread you end up with 4+ pages. who damn cares where people rank players.

I'm with you mate:rockon:

[raprap]

why are people so obsessed with top 10 GOAT list seriously everytime that is in a thread you end up with 4+ pages. who damn cares where people rank players.
It's a good discussion topic but I'm with you. It's subjective anyway.

[Marchesk]

http://www.johnmillerboats.com/millerboat_1967.jpg

[Marchesk]

One of the BOAT teams:

http://korkedbats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Lakers-On-A-Boat.jpg

[Bless Mathews]

GOAT:
1. LeBron James

BOAT:
1. LeBron James



Next year you will be able to enjoy going to bars.

[Mr. Jabbar]

GOAT:
1. LeBron James

BOAT:
1. LeBron James

:lol

[Jasper]

I'd rather have seen the boats or yachts of the goats