LeBron stats last five minutes of close games in these finals.

[Carbine]

I am disregarding game 4 because the last five minutes the game wasn't close. However in that game Lebron entered the game in the fourth only down ten points and went 0/2 and never scored. That was not the type of effort you expect from a potential GOAT candidate.

In all the other games it has been super close the last five minutes of the game (and overtimes) and LeBron has went 5/25 and scored 28 points. If it wasn't for a very good close out by him in game 3 where he went 2/4 and scored 10 points he has been a disaster.

Game one he goes 1/7 and scored three points

Game two he goes 1/10 in last five mins and overtime and scores 10 points.

Game Four he didn't even score in the fourth.

Game five he was 1/4 scores four points.


Overall he has been great, but in crunch time he has played poorly. When comparing him to GOAT candidates, this matters to me.

[SpaceJammeR]

did these goat players have mozgov, and smith as the 2nd and 3rd best scorer and delly as the point guard... with a 7 man rotation? did these goat players have to play 42+ minutes and lead the team in points, assist and almost rebounds as well?

[r15mohd]

seeing points arent the only aspect of the game...can you include assist, turnovers, rebound (def/off), etc.

[kamil]

Is he pulling another 2011 playoff performance?

[theaussieguy]

did these goat players have mozgov, and smith as the 2nd and 3rd best scorer and delly as the point guard... with a 7 man rotation? did these goat players have to play 42+ minutes and lead the team in points, assist and almost rebounds as well?

yea but lebron got a baby dick

[Carbine]

seeing points arent the only aspect of the game...can you include assist, turnovers, rebound (def/off), etc.

I did take notice of assists but didn't record them. It wasn't that many. Maybe - 5 total in all games in last five minutes and overtime. He didn't have many turnovers.

The bottom line is these games were there to be had and LeBron has kinda crapped the bed. This series could easily be 3-2 for the Cavs if LeBron had performed well in these deciding moments of games 1 and and 5 (they won game three where he was very good and won game two on the road when he went 1/10)

[CelticBaller]

Fatigue is also a factor, but yeah he hasn't been playing well on the 4th


We kinda expected this didn't we?

[Solefade]

ISH so dumb lmao, the dude is averaging near a 40pt triple double and is literally doing everything for his team

[Magic 32]

ISH so dumb lmao, the dude is averaging near a 40pt triple double and is literally doing everything for his team


Less is more sometimes.

[r15mohd]

Less is more sometimes.


and exactly what "more" will come out of it if he does less? i'd like to hear your thoughts on this :confusedshrug:

this is certainly not one of those instances, IMO

[KungFuJoe]

Lebron is known to fade when the pressure gets high. This is nothing new. You can't teach heart.

[r15mohd]

Lebron is known to fade when the pressure gets high. This is nothing new. You can't teach heart.


His overall 4th qtr appearance sucks...but his elimination games have been pretty great. I would side that with heart, will, drive, and whatever other synonym you'd like to compile

[Magic 32]

and exactly what "more" will come out of it if he does less? i'd like to hear your thoughts on this :confusedshrug:

this is certainly not one of those instances, IMO

Wekk thanks to Lebron we will never know (other than looking at the Hawks and Bulls series).

[JerrySeinfeld]

FMVP if they lose doe

[r15mohd]

I did take notice of assists but didn't record them. It wasn't that many. Maybe - 5 total in all games in last five minutes and overtime. He didn't have many turnovers.

The bottom line is these games were there to be had and LeBron has kinda crapped the bed. This series could easily be 3-2 for the Cavs if LeBron had performed well in these deciding moments of games 1 and and 5 (they won game three where he was very good and won game two on the road when he went 1/10)

How about being more in depth on missed shots by teammates on kick-outs from Lebron drives...it's easy to blanket his end of 4th qtr play but he's been playing for the most part, 1vs5 in these instances. Other than Delly have a good 4th that one game, and Lebron feeding Moz due to his hot hand in game 4, not many to rely on.

He still needs to step up in the 4th, I agree...but if your criteria is under 5mins and 1 player doing the damage, you've already lost the game to me.

[r15mohd]

Wekk thanks to Lebron we will never know (other than looking at the Hawks and Bulls series).

Looked at it, same types of shots for his teammates however they have gotten worse at 3 while he's gotten better. Bad timing for that to happen when the reason they win games is due to the non-Lebron's making their shots on kick-outs from Lebron's attacking

Try again, homer :no:

[dankok8]

At the very least the Game 5 stats in the OP are wrong...

LBJ scored 16 points (6-13 from the field including hitting three 3pt shots, 1-2 from the line) and dished out 2 assists.

EDIT: Now I see OP posted only crunch time/last 5 min but why not include Game 3 or mention that Game 4 was a blowout.

[r15mohd]

At the very least the Game 5 stats in the OP are wrong...

LBJ scored 16 points (6-13 from the field including hitting three 3pt shots, 1-2 from the line) and dished out 2 assists.

He's weaning it down to the last 5mins...and not much happened for Lebron there, IIRC.

His own listing tho on what is considered GOAT vs non-GOAT. NBA tenured folks all agree otherwise tho...I'll side with their knowledge/judgement on the game

[JerrySeinfeld]

Greatest Finals Ever :applause:

[Solefade]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHpj_ZkUkAE44yj.png:large

https://twitter.com/SherwoodStrauss/status/610910641327509504

[sd3035]

FMVP if they lose doe

FMVP for the Warriors? Are they allowed to do that?

[Funktion]

Bron will have no signature play or effect on the series when it's said and done. Just an L

[JerrySeinfeld]

Bron will have no signature play or effect on the series when it's said and done. Just an L

He'll always have that box score though, stuffed to the brim

[bluechox2]

and people being enamored with the broad picture with his game totals which practically is 3/4ths of the game, and in the last quarter he quits...has been teh story of his life

[KungFuJoe]

His overall 4th qtr appearance sucks...but his elimination games have been pretty great. I would side that with heart, will, drive, and whatever other synonym you'd like to compile

He's a great player and sometimes, greatness can overcome lack of heart. But he's faded more than he's risen to the challenge. And when he fades, my god, he can be absolutely horrible.

[SexSymbol]

He's a shitty clutch player, that's an old story that just repeats itself over and over and over again.

[sd3035]

There's a direct correlation between underendowed males and their inability to perform in the clutch (Jordan was an anomaly)

[knicksman]

Heres how you play the game. Preserve your stamina by playing off-ball so you can go all out in the 4th. Its easier to score in the 1st qtr than in crunch time, So role players are more likely to score in the 1st. If you really want to win and not a statpadder, let your role players play early and take over in crunch time not the other way around. You could see really the difference between bran and curry. Curry only force the issue when theyre down 7 in the 2nd quarter and in the 4th qrtrs while only disrupting the defense most of the game to open up his teammates. While bran takes the easy shots and expects his teammates to take the tough shots for him. LOL that leadership tho. And dont give me the excuse of teammates coz hes been this way throughout his career. Selfish who would rather make sure that he secure his stats first and hopes that the media would throw his teammates under the bus for him.

[Meticode]

I am disregarding game 4 because the last five minutes the game wasn't close. However in that game Lebron entered the game in the fourth only down ten points and went 0/2 and never scored. That was not the type of effort you expect from a potential GOAT candidate.

In all the other games it has been super close the last five minutes of the game (and overtimes) and LeBron has went 5/25 and scored 28 points. If it wasn't for a very good close out by him in game 3 where he went 2/4 and scored 10 points he has been a disaster.

Game one he goes 1/7 and scored three points

Game two he goes 1/10 in last five mins and overtime and scores 10 points.

Game Four he didn't even score in the fourth.

Game five he was 1/4 scores four points.


Overall he has been great, but in crunch time he has played poorly. When comparing him to GOAT candidates, this matters to me.
If you're excluding game 3 then you should exclude 4 and 5 as well. Under 2 minutes the game was pretty close to being out of reach. At this point he's gassed.

[branslowski]

If you're excluding game 3 then you should exclude 4 and 5 as well. Under 2 minutes the game was pretty close to being out of reach. At this point he's gassed.

:violin:

[Meticode]

He's a shitty clutch player, that's an old story that just repeats itself over and over and over again.
And he's proved he can be clutch as well.

[Meticode]

:violin:
Yes, I know, the truth hurts. :cry:

[Meticode]

:violin:
In all honesty, yes he's underperformed late in the fourth quarters. I'm just giving reasons for this. Chalk it up to being unclutch, or the defense zoning in, or him being gassed, but most people who just plain out hate LeBron for the sake of it will chalk it up to sucking to drive their personal agendas.

[SexSymbol]

And he's proved he can be clutch as well.
In the finals? Not really.

[branslowski]

In all honesty, yes he's underperformed late in the fourth quarters. I'm just giving reasons for this. Chalk it up to being unclutch, or the defense zoning in, or him being gassed, but most people who just plain out hate LeBron for the sake of it will chalk it up to sucking to drive their personal agendas.

Would'nt then the ppl who love him make excuses for him like "hes gassed"?

[Spurs5Rings2014]

There's a direct correlation between underendowed males and their inability to perform in the clutch (Jordan was an anomaly)

:roll:

[Blue&Orange]

If you're excluding game 3 then you should exclude 4 and 5 as well. Under 2 minutes the game was pretty close to being out of reach. At this point he's gassed.
:roll: :roll: :oldlol: :roll: :lol :oldlol: :roll:

[Blue&Orange]

Was Lebron gassed last year when he stappaded most of his points in the 4th quarter against Mat Bonner?