How is it that LBJ,a pass first player has higher PPG than Kobe,a score first player?

[Nash]

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[eurobum]

How is it that LBJ,a high efficiency player has lower FG% than Kobe,a low efficiency player?

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[ISHGoat]

How is it that LBJ,a high efficiency player has lower FG% than Kobe,a low efficiency player?

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uh, no he doesnt

[daily]

How is it that LBJ,a high efficiency player has lower FG% than Kobe,a low efficiency player?

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End thread, Op's agenda detected and defused in first post

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It's out of his character as he said. He'd rather shoot 50% but he has no other choice.

[Jlamb47]

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You ever notice the minutes they played in their earlier career? The difference between having Shaq and not?

[Magic 32]

How is it that LBJ,a high efficiency player has lower FG% than Kobe,a low efficiency player?

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[kennethgriffin]

coming off the bench his 1st 2 years
playing with shaq


as #1 FGA leader of the lakers since 2001

kobes career PPG is 27.9 over 15 years


lebrons is 27.3

[LeFraud James]

If Kobe dribbled the air out of the ball for the first 16 seconds of every single possession his team gets he would not only have more PPG, but also more assists.

[KiiiiNG]

kobe got carried by shaq for years.

lebron IS the shaq of his teams, and literally does it all for them. not only does he score more than kobe, hes also a much better passer, better defender, better rebounder, better leader, better clutch player, more durable, and much higher basketball IQ.

its not fair comparing kobe to lebron, because lebron owns him at everything including head to head meetings.

[Dr Seuss]

kobe got carried by shaq for years.

lebron IS the shaq of his teams, and literally does it all for them. not only does he score more than kobe, hes also a much better passer, better defender, better rebounder, better leader, better clutch player, more durable, and much higher basketball IQ.

its not fair comparing kobe to lebron, because lebron owns him at everything including head to head meetings.

great points :applause:

the only thing i have kobe better than lebron at is winning.

[Rocketswin2013]

Kobe's scoring advantage over LeBron gets overstated sometimes, tbh.

[kennethgriffin]

kobe got carried by shaq for years.

lebron IS the shaq of his teams, and literally does it all for them. not only does he score more than kobe, hes also a much better passer, better defender, better rebounder, better leader, better clutch player, more durable, and much higher basketball IQ.

its not fair comparing kobe to lebron, because lebron owns him at everything including head to head meetings.



again...

in the 15 years as #1 FGA's leader for LA since 2001. kobes averaging 27.9ppg


lebron over 12 years is at 27.3


:lol

[KiiiiNG]

great points :applause:

the only thing i have kobe better than lebron at is winning.
as a second option? sure...

but as a first option they're even, and lebrons career isnt close to over.

by the time its said and done, lbj will have like 6 mvps and 4 fmvps, which absolutely shits on kobe's putrid 1 mvp and 2 fmvps

the statistical difference is also significant. kobe isnt close to lebron, sorry.

[Dr Seuss]

as a second option? sure...

but as a first option they're even, and lebrons career isnt close to over.



in the notoriously difficult east? sure...

[KiiiiNG]

again...

in the 15 years as #1 FGA's leader for LA since 2001. kobes averaging 27.9ppg


lebron over 12 years is at 27.3


:lol
while missing the most shots in nba history.

congrats! :oldlol:

[Papaya Petee]

again...

in the 15 years as #1 FGA's leader for LA since 2001. kobes averaging 27.9ppg


lebron over 12 years is at 27.3



:lol

Yeah you're right. Its pretty laughable that out of high school LeBron averaged 21,27 and 31 PPG vs Kobe 7,15 and 20 PPG.

:roll: :

[Dr Seuss]

while missing the most shots in nba history.

congrats! :oldlol:

and look at lebron trying to one-up him once again by going for the most missed shots in nba finals history. Lebron stays winning. :cheers:

[KiiiiNG]

in the east? sure...
kobes runs in 2009 was pathetically weak....

in 2010 he shot 6 for 24 in game 7 and won...

weak competition AND carried. the west just now got this dominant, it wasnt that way when kobe was getting carried.

[kennethgriffin]

Yeah you're right. Its pretty laughable that out of high school LeBron averaged 21,27 and 31 PPG vs Kobe 7,15 and 20 PPG.

:roll: :


lebron givin the same minutes and time behind 3 other prime allstars wouldnt have scored either

:lol


fact is when kobes given the same green light as lebron he scores more. its evident via 15 years worth of averages as #1 option

[Hey Yo]

great points :applause:

the only thing i have kobe better than lebron at is winning.
Not since Shaq left LA.

[Dr Seuss]

kobes runs in 2009 was pathetically weak....

weak competition AND carried. the west just now got this dominant, it wasnt that way when kobe was getting carried.

Haha pure bullshit.

[KiiiiNG]

Haha pure bullshit.
warriors are easily better than any team the lakers faced that year.

and lebron is about to take them out by himself. no pau gasol, no lamar odom. BY HIMSELF.

[kennethgriffin]

Not since Shaq left LA.

since shaq left kobes 2 for 3

lebrons 2 for 6


hold this L

[Hey Yo]

lebron givin the same minutes and time behind 3 other prime allstars wouldnt have scored either

:lol


fact is when kobes given the same green light as lebron he scores more. its evident via 15 years worth of averages as #1 option
Maybe he should have let NJ draft him then. He could have had that green light from his rookie year on, instead of handing out towels during timeouts his first 2 seasons.

all most forgot.....lol @ Kobe being first option after 2000.

[r15mohd]

lebron givin the same minutes and time behind 3 other prime allstars wouldnt have scored either

:lol


fact is when kobes given the same green light as lebron he scores more. its evident via 15 years worth of averages as #1 option


Scores more, and loses more too. He's never had a "green light" under Phil, and when he has had a green light (2005/6) and these past few years with the Dantoni, Mike Brown, Byron episodes, he's had nothing but losing efforts with high FG attempts and high points, and LOSSES.

Keep up the rhetoric Kenneth :rolleyes:

[Hey Yo]

since shaq left kobes 2 for 3

lebrons 2 for 6


hold this L
Kobe played like Shaq was gone against Detroit.

2 for 4 for Kobe as first option in the Finals

[Fudge]

while missing the most shots in nba history.

congrats! :oldlol:
:roll:

zing!

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe played like Shaq was gone against Detroit.

2 for 4 for Kobe as first option in the Finals

lol nice try.. if we're counting all years kobe was FGA leader in the playoffs.. kobes 4 for 6

[Papaya Petee]

lebron givin the same minutes and time behind 3 other prime allstars wouldnt have scored either

:lol


fact is when kobes given the same green light as lebron he scores more. its evident via 15 years worth of averages as #1 option

Yeah lets pretend like Kobe was 1/10th NBA ready as Lebron when they both got drafted :roll:

LeBron by his 3rd year was at 31/7/7 leading his team to the second round and making the Cavs competetive and relevant.
Put a 3rd year Kobe in the same situation with the same roster and the Cavs win 25-30 games.
Matter of fact even if he was given the green light , ZERO chance Kobe averages 27 and 31 PPG his 2nd and 3rd season.
You wanna remove years and ignore efficiency? Remove rookie year (1 year not 3) and LeBrons at 27.9 PPG
:roll:

[EwingMan]

How is it that LBJ,a high efficiency player has lower FG% than Kobe,a low efficiency player?

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[Hey Yo]

lol nice try.. if we're counting all years kobe was FGA leader in the playoffs.. kobes 4 for 6
Talking Finals here (like you and other Kobe Kids like to avoid) not the playoffs.

[kennethgriffin]

Talking Finals here (like you and other Kobe Kids like to avoid) not the playoffs.


sorry. the entire playoffs are part of basketball


:lol


and i've told you 1000 times. the real finals were in the west.

getting a FMVP for beating an eastern confrence team is like handing out exibition trophies

[Hey Yo]

sorry. the entire playoffs are part of basketball


:lol


and i've told you 1000 times. the real finals were in the west.

getting a FMVP for beating an eastern confrence team is like handing out exibition trophies
The Kobe rules "blah blah blah" Kobe agenda

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[Nash]

Also on much higher efficiency than Kobe I should have added to the OP.

Mysteries, mysteries..

[Ne 1]

as a second option? sure...

but as a first option they're even, and lebrons career isnt close to over.

by the time its said and done, lbj will have like 6 mvps and 4 fmvps, which absolutely shits on kobe's putrid 1 mvp and 2 fmvps

the statistical difference is also significant. kobe isnt close to lebron, sorry.
Too bad Kobe's 2001 and 2002 rings are on par with or better than some l"#1 option" rings.

[Ne 1]

Talking Finals here (like you and other Kobe Kids like to avoid) not the playoffs.
The finals are part of the playoffs, and you do have to get to the finals before you can win them.

[Hey Yo]

The finals are part of the playoffs, and you do have to get to the finals before you can win them.
So why do Kobe stans like yourself, Kenny and many others always talk about what Kobe accomplished BEFORE the Finals? You know.......the series you have to play in order to win a ring? If the East is/was so piss poor, then why did he play so poorly, on the biggest stage, in the majority of those 7 Finals??

[Jacks3]

lol @ LBJ being a pass-first player. Dude is currently taking 27 FGA per game in the post-season, and 34 FGA per game in the Finals. Dude was second in the entire league in isolation plays in the reg season despite having Kevin Love and Irving on his team, which is much better offensive talent than what Bryant ever had built around him. He was also #2 among non-points in touches per game, and #1 among all non-points in time of possession. Basically, he was playing a super ball-dominant isolation type of offense even though he had two offensive stars next to him including the best offensive PF in the league. Does that sound like some sort of super unselfish pass-first player to you? :oldlol:

[kNicKz]

How is it that LBJ,a high efficiency player has lower FG% than Kobe,a low efficiency player?

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[knicksman]

kobe got carried by shaq for years.

lebron IS the shaq of his teams, and literally does it all for them. not only does he score more than kobe, hes also a much better passer, better defender, better rebounder, better leader, better clutch player, more durable, and much higher basketball IQ.

its not fair comparing kobe to lebron, because lebron owns him at everything including head to head meetings.

then why hes 2/5

[Ne 1]

So why do Kobe stans like yourself, Kenny and many others always talk about what Kobe accomplished BEFORE the Finals? You know.......the series you have to play in order to win a ring? If the East is/was so piss poor, then why did he play so poorly, on the biggest stage, in the majority of those 7 Finals??
I don't just talk about the Finals, I look at all 4 rounds put together, and Kobe in general is an incredible playoff performer, although not as good in the Finals, but if you break down his Finals, he hasn't been bad either. And you can't just ignore that Kobe was destroying teams like the Spurs and Kings during the first 3peat and even though the gap between Shaq and Kobe was much larger in 2000 than it was in 2001 and 2002, you can't ignore how he stepped up and was the MVP of game 7 vs the Blazers in 2000 or how he stepped up in big moments in the clutch against the Suns and Pacers in the playoffs as well.

[Shih508]

Allen Iverson 29.7 ppg > Kobe's 25.6 or 27.9 for stan

AI > > > > > > > > KObe


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[HOoopCityJones]

lol @ LBJ being a pass-first player. Dude is currently taking 27 FGA per game in the post-season, and 34 FGA per game in the Finals. Dude was second in the entire league in isolation plays in the reg season despite having Kevin Love and Irving on his team, which is much better offensive talent than what Bryant ever had built around him. He was also #2 among non-points in touches per game, and #1 among all non-points in time of possession. Basically, he was playing a super ball-dominant isolation type of offense even though he had two offensive stars next to him including the best offensive PF in the league. Does that sound like some sort of super unselfish pass-first player to you? :oldlol:

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