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3ball
06-17-2015, 02:35 AM
He doesn't have the skill (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37) to put up GOAT stats alongside a good supporting cast like MJ did.

So he either plays with a stacked squad and his stats are nowhere near MJ, or he plays with a lesser supporting cast and he can't win..

He's ****ed... His style precludes him from being GOAT..

And even with a lesser supporting cast that allows him to rack up numbers, his numbers still aren't as good as MJ's - 35 shots to get 35 points is actually GARBAGE compared to MJ.. Straight garbage.. It's true - I'm just stating the obvious.
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SouBeachTalents
06-17-2015, 02:35 AM
He doesn't have the skill (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37) to put up elite stats alongside a good supporting cast like MJ did.

So he either plays with a stacked squad and his stats are nowhere near MJ, or he plays with a lesser supporting cast and he can't win.

He's ****ed... His style precludes him from being GOAT.

Sounds like Jordan before Pippen

navy
06-17-2015, 02:36 AM
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06-17-2015, 02:37 AM
Wade was a -56 in the 2013 NBA finals... A NBA finals record

Bosh was a role player in the 2012 finals and 2013 finals (0 points in G7)

Lebron had less help then MJ

r15mohd
06-17-2015, 02:39 AM
His style has won twice already, and this finals was not even his style of ball. So right there, you show how inept and full of stupidity u are. Stfu already with your endless rhetoric

Kvnzhangyay
06-17-2015, 02:39 AM
He doesn't have the skill (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37) to put up GOAT stats alongside a good supporting cast like MJ did.

So he either plays with a stacked squad and his stats are nowhere near MJ, or he plays with a lesser supporting cast and he can't win.

He's ****ed... His style precludes him from being GOAT.

He's won 2 rings bruh, and most certainly would have won it this year also if his team was healthy.

You think MJ and his style of play would win if the second and third option was out? How do you think MJ without Pippen or Rodman, maybe Kukoc (because scoring) would do? (1-9)

This is not to mention Varejao out

sbw19
06-17-2015, 02:44 AM
Cavs outside LeBron averaged 7apg in the Finals. They don't lose Kyrie and Love, that doesn't happen.

3ball
06-17-2015, 02:56 AM
Sounds like Jordan before Pippen


Jordan had the skill to maintain his goat stats once his supporting cast got better.

Lebron doesn't have such skill (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37), so he isn't capable of having all-time level stats alongside good supporting casts.

And even with a lesser supporting cast that allowed him to rack up numbers, he needed 35 shots to get 35 points in these Finals - that's GARBAGE compared to MJ, pre or post Pippen.

Straight garbage.. And 35 shots to get 35 points is considered bad, just in general.. I'm just stating the obvious.
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Kvnzhangyay
06-17-2015, 02:58 AM
Jordan had the skill (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37) to maintain his goat stats once his supporting cast got better.

Lebron doesn't have such skill (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11188520&postcount=37), so his numbers aren't capable of being at an all-time level alongside good supporting casts.

And even with a lesser supporting cast that allows him to rack up numbers, his numbers still aren't as good as MJ's - 35 shots to get 35 points is actually GARBAGE compared to MJ, pre or post Pippen.. Straight garbage.. It's true - I'm just stating the obvious.

You're avoiding the point- meaning you concede that MJ couldn't win without Pippen. Sure he has better stats, but you're admitting that MJ and his style could not win either without an elite defender and good to great offensive player in Pippen

3ball
06-17-2015, 03:07 AM
You're avoiding the point- meaning you concede that MJ couldn't win without Pippen.


Every great player, no matter how great, needs an all-star for support.

Magic needed three - Kareem, Worthy, Green

Bird needed three - McHale, Parish, DJ

Lebron needed three - Wade, Bosh, Allen

But MJ only needed Pippen.. :confusedshrug: .. Can you say.... G-O-A-T?.. :banana:


Also, I'M the one avoiding the point??.. You're avoiding the point that Lebron sucks - he needed 35 shots to average 35 PPG in the Finals.. That's pathetic, and not just in comparison to MJ - 35 shots to get 35 points is considered bad just in general.. This is normally common knowledge, but because it's Lebron, let's all be dumb and ignore it.. :rolleyes:

SouBeachTalents
06-17-2015, 03:12 AM
Every great player, no matter how great, needs an all-star for support.

Magic needed three - Kareem, Worthy, Green

Bird needed three - McHale, Parish, DJ

Lebron needed three - Wade, Bosh, Allen

But MJ only needed Pippen.. :confusedshrug: .. Can you say G-O-A-T??.. :banana:


Also, I'M the one avoiding the point??.. You're avoiding the point that Lebron sucks - he needed 35 shots to average 35 PPG in the Finals - that's pathetic, and not just in comparison to MJ - 35 shots to get 35 points is considered bad just in general.. This is normally common knowledge, but because it's Lebron, let's all be dumb and ignore it.. :rolleyes:

So A.C. Green gets mentioned but not Rodman or Grant?

And if Allen gets mentioned for Miami, then so do the likes of Kukoc, Armstrong, Kerr, Harper etc.

Kvnzhangyay
06-17-2015, 03:14 AM
Every great player, no matter how great, needs an all-star for support.

Magic needed three - Kareem, Worthy, Green

Bird needed three - McHale, Parish, DJ

Lebron needed three - Wade, Bosh, Allen

But MJ only needed Pippen.. :confusedshrug: .. Can you say.... G-O-A-T?.. :banana:


Also, I'M the one avoiding the point??.. You're avoiding the point that Lebron sucks - he needed 35 shots to average 35 PPG in the Finals.. That's pathetic, and not just in comparison to MJ - 35 shots to get 35 points is considered bad just in general.. This is normally common knowledge, but because it's Lebron, let's all be dumb and ignore it.. :rolleyes:

Why does PPG matter?
Your thread was about how Lebron's style can't win, which is obviously wrong because he can win when his teammates are up to par

You are only proving my point that Lebron's style CAN win, he just needs great teammates. You've got to be joking me if you think this injury-depleted starting cast was good :facepalm

3ball
06-17-2015, 03:51 AM
So A.C. Green gets mentioned but not Rodman or Grant?

And if Allen gets mentioned for Miami, then so do the likes of Kukoc, Armstrong, Kerr, Harper etc.
AC Green was an all-star alongside Magic.. Horace Grant was never an all-star alongside MJ.. MJ's first 3-peat was won with only 1 all-star - Pippen.. Meanwhile, Bird, Magic and Lebron each had multiple all-stars helping them for all of their rings.

And Rodman was never an all-star alongside MJ either... He was an all-star in 1990 and 1992 as a small forward DPOY for the Pistons.. By the time he got to the Bulls, he was a 34-year old PF, and not the same dynamic, all-round defender he was before.

Kblaze8855
06-17-2015, 08:06 AM
Even with years of contending remaining only 7ish players in 70 years were the best player on more title teams(depending on who you think is better in 1982 Kareem or Magic) . If LeBrons style can't win what's with all the victory?

Children and idiots claiming that winning multiple NBA championships somehow isn't winning doesn't make it true.

sd3035
06-17-2015, 08:13 AM
lol 3ball causing meltdowns again :roll:

LiLharvard
06-17-2015, 08:17 AM
1-9

what does this even mean

sd3035
06-17-2015, 08:19 AM
what does this even mean

I think it's a distress call when someone is having a meltdown

warriorfan
06-17-2015, 08:21 AM
Well said op. It's getting scary on how this isn't the first time LeBron has done this and people just refuse to see the truth...When the media hype train around LeBron dies and people re-examine his career they are going to start to see all of this and his All Time Ranking will suffer greatly.

Sakkreth
06-17-2015, 08:27 AM
Well said op. It's getting scary on how this isn't the first time LeBron has done this and people just refuse to see the truth...When the media hype train around LeBron dies and people re-examine his career they are going to start to see all of this and his All Time Ranking will suffer greatly.

But does Curry even have a ranking ?

sd3035
06-17-2015, 08:27 AM
Well said op. It's getting scary on how this isn't the first time LeBron has done this and people just refuse to see the truth...When the media hype train around LeBron dies and people re-examine his career they are going to start to see all of this and his All Time Ranking will suffer greatly.


Any D league scrub would have won 2 titles with that amount of help and ref rigging

Lebron's career has been an epic failure thus far

warriorfan
06-17-2015, 08:28 AM
Any D league scrub would have won 2 titles with that amount of help and ref rigging

Lebron's career has been an epic failure thus far

he's gonna be the modern day empty stats wilt except minus fuccing a ton of chicks. this is not a good thing

NumberSix
06-17-2015, 08:32 AM
Every great player, no matter how great, needs an all-star for support.

Magic needed three - Kareem, Worthy, Green

Bird needed three - McHale, Parish, DJ

Lebron needed three - Wade, Bosh, Allen

But MJ only needed Pippen.. :confusedshrug: .. Can you say.... G-O-A-T?.. :banana:


Also, I'M the one avoiding the point??.. You're avoiding the point that Lebron sucks - he needed 35 shots to average 35 PPG in the Finals.. That's pathetic, and not just in comparison to MJ - 35 shots to get 35 points is considered bad just in general.. This is normally common knowledge, but because it's Lebron, let's all be dumb and ignore it.. :rolleyes:
Right, and LeBron had no all star support. No what's the point of your thread?

Elosha
06-17-2015, 09:35 AM
3Ball, if you want to point out that Jordan would have likely shot better against GS, I'd agree with you. If you want to state Jordan is a better overall player, I'd agree with you. But stop trying to tear down Lebron constantly, it makes you look so insecure. Sure Lebron could have shot much better. He's never going to be a great mid range jump shooter, and he's never going to have MJ's versatility and creativity for scoring. That doesn't mean that you can't take your hat off to him. He just averaged almost 36 ppg, over 13 rebounds, and almost 9 assists. His two main offensive complements were out of commission, along with a big, Anderson Varejo. He played a Herculean amount of minutes and was clearly gassed.

Yes, he didn't play/shoot particularly well in fourth quarters/overtime, but this stems as much from his exhaustion as from a lack of "killer instinct." So instead of constantly disparaging him saying his "style can't win" when in fact he's a two time champ, why don't you acknowledge his incredible effort? It doesn't mean he's better than MJ, anyone knowledgeable here would never think that anyway.

SpecialQue
06-17-2015, 09:39 AM
I think it's a distress call when someone is having a meltdown

I missed it when everyone decided to use it to talk shit...seriously, what does that mean?

sdot_thadon
06-17-2015, 09:51 AM
One thing it proved for sure is his style will almost guarantee any team a shot at the title. Proven 2nd option or not.

r15mohd
06-17-2015, 10:04 AM
indicated this at the beginning of the thread...Lebron certainly did not play his style of ball this Finals. so to insinuate it can't win is pretty stupid, and pointless, as are most threads started by 3ball :rolleyes:

nashwade
06-17-2015, 11:20 AM
Kobe-ball doesn't win championship......

as proven by Kobe himself

EllisGW
06-17-2015, 11:26 AM
Well said op. It's getting scary on how this isn't the first time LeBron has done this and people just refuse to see the truth...When the media hype train around LeBron dies and people re-examine his career they are going to start to see all of this and his All Time Ranking will suffer greatly.


You are not a warriors fan you are white trash.....you just troll

EllisGW
06-17-2015, 11:27 AM
Kobe ball works and lebron ball works they are both multiple nba champions

Velocirap31
06-17-2015, 11:36 AM
Good supporting cast?

Patrick Chewing
06-17-2015, 11:51 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHrcJJwVAAAkp9W.jpg

oarabbus
06-17-2015, 12:57 PM
3ball is sad because MJ literally never played a team as good as this Warriors team nor has he ever put up close to the stats LeBron just put up.