I would vote for donald turmp if i lived in the US

[NZStreetBaller]

as president. you guys are in financial trouble at the moment and rather than voting for a black guy because its new or a female because its new id rather vote for a guy who actually knows something about money rather then someone who is likeable.

That is all. enjoy your day USA
not too much mcdonalds today.

[aj1987]

as president. you guys are in financial trouble at the moment and rather than voting for a black guy because its new or a female because its new id rather vote for a guy who actually knows something about money rather then someone who is likeable.

That is all. enjoy your day USA
not too much mcdonalds today.
6 of Trump's businesses declared chapter 11, if I'm not mistaken. ~20 failed businesses and has a personal debt of ~$1B.

[NZStreetBaller]

6 of Trump's businesses declared chapter 11, if I'm not mistaken. ~20 failed businesses and has a personal debt of ~$1B.

All great entrepreneurs face certain failures in life you knob thats why they become smarter and better at what they do.....

[NumberSix]

Donald Trump is a clown.

And he doesn't even know much about business. He inherited a fortune and pretty much all of his business dealings have failed and gone bankrupt. All the successful things that have the "Trump" name, don't actually have anything to do with him. Other people in real estate are smart enough to know that the public thinks "Trump" is a prestigious name, so they pay him to use the name on things he has nothing to do with.

[aj1987]

All great entrepreneurs face certain failures in life you knob thats why they become smarter and better at what they do.....
I don't recall a single "entrepreneur" having a PERSONAL debt of $1B. In the last decade alone, 2 of his businesses have declared bankruptcy. Oh well, he's still an "entrepreneur" lets give him another 20-30 years and $4B-$5B to become "smarter and better".

[NZStreetBaller]

I think health insurance and healthcare issues will determine who wins this 2016 presidential race.


Which is pathetic and a reflection of the us people reliance on the government. That entitlement mentality is terrible

[IcanzIIravor]

Which is pathetic and a reflection of the us people reliance on the government. That entitlement mentality is terrible

What type of healthcare system do you guys have in NZ?

[masonanddixon]

Which is pathetic and a reflection of the us people reliance on the government. That entitlement mentality is terrible

lol man Australia/NZ is completely built on entitlement culture, if not for entitlements/handouts/benefits like 70% of the population would be homeless.

[NZStreetBaller]

What type of healthcare system do you guys have in NZ?

Im not sure aye. I pay for mine.....

Plus i live in aus now.

[Jameerthefear]

Trump is a ****ing moron.

[Velocirap31]

Trump should be homeless on the street after his financial failures, but he was bailed out by bankruptcy and other sleezy methods.

[L.Kizzle]

Donald Stump
Toupee Fiasco

[plowking]

lol man Australia/NZ is completely built on entitlement culture, if not for entitlements/handouts/benefits like 70% of the population would be homeless.

How are you so stupid?

And stop projecting.

[DukeDelonte13]

Donald Trump is a clown.

And he doesn't even know much about business. He inherited a fortune and pretty much all of his business dealings have failed and gone bankrupt. All the successful things that have the "Trump" name, don't actually have anything to do with him. Other people in real estate are smart enough to know that the public thinks "Trump" is a prestigious name, so they pay him to use the name on things he has nothing to do with.

this

[rufuspaul]

Trump is a publicity hound and megalomaniac. He will have absolutely zero influence in this election.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump is a publicity hound and megalomaniac. He will have absolutely zero influence in this election.


I think what Trump is doing is actually quite brilliant. I think he's saying the things the other candidates wish they could say, but won't, at least not yet. Therefore, Trump will get weeded out, and eventually back the candidate that is willing to do most of the things Trump is talking about.

[rufuspaul]

I think what Trump is doing is actually quite brilliant. I think he's saying the things the other candidates wish they could say, but won't, at least not yet. Therefore, Trump will get weeded out, and eventually back the candidate that is willing to do most of the things Trump is talking about.


Why would anyone want the backing of a total nut case?

[KevinNYC]

as president. you guys are in financial trouble at the moment and rather than voting for a black guy because its new or a female because its new id rather vote for a guy who actually knows something about money rather then someone who is likeable.
Donald Trump believes vaccines cause autism.

Donald Trump says Global Warming is a hoax and that it was created by the Chinese to stifle the American economy.

Donald Trump shit hits pants repeatedly over Ebola in the US when nobody who contracted Ebola in the US died. Literally a 100% survival rate.

Donald Trump says the real unemployment rate in the US right now is 18 to 20%

Donald Trump is an insecure bullshit artist who routinely lies about easily provable stuff. He claims the Cessna Citation X plane he owns, "It

[Patrick Chewing]

Why would anyone want the backing of a total nut case?


Ya gotta think outside of the man himself. I only heard bits and pieces of his speech yesterday, but his "tough talk" on China, the current administration, and Mexico are what I think the Republican base and some Independents want to hear.


Can you picture Jeb Bush or Scott Walker calling someone a loser? LOL no way they'd do it. But that's the kind of people that are running the country right now on both sides of the aisle.....losers.

[BurningHammer]

Will there ever be a 3rd party candidate becoming the POTUS?

[rufuspaul]

Will there ever be a 3rd party candidate becoming the POTUS?


As long as it's not the ****ing Tea Party.

[rufuspaul]

[QUOTE=KevinNYC] He claims the Cessna Citation X plane he owns, "It

[CeltsGarlic]

No way anyone should vote for him.

[Droid101]

Ya gotta think outside of the man himself. I only heard bits and pieces of his speech yesterday, but his "tough talk" on China, the current administration, and Mexico are what I think the Republican base and some Independents want to hear.

:roll:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a0/d1/97/a0d19746dfdd788e968572a399faeb46.jpg

[KevinNYC]

:lol That one made me spit coffee.


My local paper this morning referred to Trump as: reality television personality and businessman. That's about right.
There used to be a magazine in NY that always referred to him as "short-fingered vulgarian Donald Trump."

I can't think of him any other way now.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Im not sure aye. I pay for mine.....

Plus i live in aus now.

wtf makes you think we get free healthcare? In the states, you either have healthcare, or you don't and have to pay a fine at the end of the year for choosing not to be insured.

[Derka]

Trump is the worst sort of person and the truth is...if by some insane happenstance he makes it to the primaries, Americans will cast votes for him.

Sometimes, I honestly hate us. He does this shit every four years entirely for brand recognition and nothing else and we buy it every single time.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump is the worst sort of person and the truth is...if by some insane happenstance he makes it to the primaries, Americans will cast votes for him.

Sometimes, I honestly hate us. He does this shit every four years entirely for brand recognition and nothing else and we buy it every single time.


Settle down. He's nowhere close to being electable, so there's no need to hate us. He's no different than Colonel Bernie Sanders throwing his name in the ring.


What we shouldn't have had was another 4 years of Obama.

[KevinNYC]

He does this shit every four years entirely for brand recognition and nothing else and we buy it every single time.

He understands that political reporters need to turn out multiple stories a week and often it's covering campaigns (especially 18 months before the election) can be pretty boring. So he floats his balloon, pays some people to chant his name, and the cameras and column inches follow. The dude understands the press.


I'm not so sure he actually understands economics though. Here's him three years ago, slagging Ben Bernaeke and saying that stimulus is terrible and would cause inflation and the devaluing of the dollar. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/donald-trump-federal-reserve_n_1882256.html). Here's headlines from earlier this year.
Dollar Surges to 11-Year High Against Biggest Rivals
The dollar is crushing other currencies

[CavaliersFTW]

donald turmp :lol

[Nastradamus]

as president. you guys are in financial trouble at the moment and rather than voting for a black guy because its new or a female because its new id rather vote for a guy who actually knows something about money rather then someone who is likeable.

That is all. enjoy your day USA
not too much mcdonalds today.

Then you are a very stupid man

[KevinNYC]

It seems like my instinct that he paid people to be there may be correct (https://medium.com/@GoAngelo/donald-trump-hired-paid-actors-to-attend-presidential-launch-event-7c65e8fadea0)
So he floats his balloon, pays some people to chant his name, and the cameras and column inches follow. The dude understands the press.[QUOTE]Trump is controversial and well-known and thus it just makes sense that you

[KevinNYC]

seems to have been confirmed
It has been claimed that Donald Trump's campaign hired professional actors to attend his campaign launch. Pictured right is Domenico Del Giacco, a jobbing extra in New York City, alongside a woman who was identified as fellow actress Kourtney Klotz

.....In an article published on the Medium social media platform, Carusone points to an Instagram post by actor Domenico Del Giacco, showing him posing in the lobby with the tag 'Trump Mania'.
Sources close to Del Giacco confirmed to DailyMail.com that he was paid to attend.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3128230/Did-Donald-Trump-hire-PAID-ACTORS-presidential-campaign-launch-Claims-professionals-extras-brought-pose-supporters.html#ixzz3dL5qpEp4

[BurningHammer]

Neil Young has called out Trump for using his "Rockin' in the Free World", which is not even the best choice at all if you look into the context.

[rufuspaul]

Neil Young has called out Trump for using his "Rockin' in the Free World", which is not even the best choice at all if you look into the context.


The Reagan campaign used Springsteen's Born in the USA in 1984, a song about an unemployed Vietnam vet with a hopeless future. People thought it was patriotic. People are stupid.

[DeuceWallaces]

Slick-Willy still da bess with Fleetwood Mac.

[DeuceWallaces]

Will there ever be a 3rd party candidate becoming the POTUS?

Perot had it until he temporarily dropped out.

Can I finish?

Can I finish?

OK, I'm finished.

[NumberSix]

Slick-Willy still da bess with Fleetwood Mac.
Surprised you would like Bill Clinton. Dude is a borderline right-winger by today's looney left standards.

[DeuceWallaces]

Surprised you would like Bill Clinton. Dude is a borderline right-winger by today's looney left standards.

Your misunderstanding and misrepresentation of everything I say and everything you potentially read, is not surprising.

[NumberSix]

Your misunderstanding and misrepresentation of everything I say and everything you potentially read, is not surprising.
Fair enough. You saying he had a good song choice isn't actually an implication of you liking him. My mistake.

[KevinNYC]

The Reagan campaign used Springsteen's Born in the USA in 1984, a song about an unemployed Vietnam vet with a hopeless future. People thought it was patriotic. People are stupid.

With Trump you wonder if they considered Fortunate Son first.

I remember getting into an argument with a friend's older sister about the The Police's 'Every Breath You Take' and how creepy a song it was. I was quite please years later when Sting mentioned it was an explicitly stalker song and how he used to laugh when people who tell him it was their wedding song.

I just learned that Blondie's One Way or Another (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zBwRDEFMRY) is a song about her being stalked, but I guess it's obvious once you think about it.


But the truth is songs work on multiple levels at the same time. How many songs with sad lyrics work to actually make you feel good? So yes, Born in the USA has the ironic lyrics, but it also has those ringing opening chords and that booming backbeat and that chorus that is made for stadiums full of folks who are not unemployed Vietnam veterans to sing at full volume. And you're right, his future is bleak, but the song still has a lot of hope. It's sung defiantly and can be taken as a song overcoming your bad circumstances and still winding up as a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA? Who doesn't want to be a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA? I want to be a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA.

And Every Breath You Take is sung as a love song from a devoted paramour. George Jone's biggest hit and the saddest song in the world, He Stopped Loving Her Today was originally written a joke song where you supposed to laugh at the poor bastard in the title, not feel his pain.

[NumberSix]

With Trump you wonder if they considered Fortunate Son first.

I remember getting into an argument with a friend's older sister about the The Police's 'Every Breath You Take' and how creepy a song it was. I was quite please years later when Sting mentioned it was an explicitly stalker song and how he used to laugh when people who tell him it was their wedding song.

I just learned that Blondie's One Way or Another (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zBwRDEFMRY) is a song about her being stalked, but I guess it's obvious once you think about it.


But the truth is songs work on multiple levels at the same time. How many songs with sad lyrics work to actually make you feel good? So yes, Born in the USA has the ironic lyrics, but it also has those ringing opening chords and that booming backbeat and that chorus that is made for stadiums full of folks who are not unemployed Vietnam veterans to sing at full volume. And you're right, his future is bleak, but the song still has a lot of hope. It's sung defiantly and can be taken as a song overcoming your bad circumstances and still winding up as a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA? Who doesn't want to be a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA? I want to be a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA.

And Every Breath You Take is sung as a love song from a devoted paramour. George Jone's biggest hit and the saddest song in the world, He Stopped Loving Her Today was originally written a joke song where you supposed to laugh at the poor bastard in the title, not feel his pain.
A lot of people don't really pay attention to lyrics and for many people that do, the meaning goes over their head.

An extreme leftists artist could make a song sarcastically called "home of the free" and some republican candidate would use it.

[KevinNYC]

Also just learned that Born in the USA was originally written for a Paul Schraeder movie for Springsteen to sing in. It became Light of Day with Michael J. Fox.

[KevinNYC]

A lot of people don't really pay attention to lyrics and for many people that do, the meaning goes over their head.

An extreme leftists artist could make a song sarcastically called "home of the free" and some republican candidate would use it.
It why a lot of overtly political songs fail. It has to work as a song first.

Steve Earle's Home to Houston is a lyrically anti-Iraq song, but it works terrifically as a rig-rock, truck-driving song. It also works that the POV of the song is not about politics but survival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DagXi9XGUJU

He's got others that are clunkers.

[kentatm]

I would vote for donald turmp if i lived in the US

http://i.imgur.com/EzCYUij.gif

[rufuspaul]

With Trump you wonder if they considered Fortunate Son first.

I remember getting into an argument with a friend's older sister about the The Police's 'Every Breath You Take' and how creepy a song it was. I was quite please years later when Sting mentioned it was an explicitly stalker song and how he used to laugh when people who tell him it was their wedding song.

I just learned that Blondie's One Way or Another (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zBwRDEFMRY) is a song about her being stalked, but I guess it's obvious once you think about it.


But the truth is songs work on multiple levels at the same time. How many songs with sad lyrics work to actually make you feel good? So yes, Born in the USA has the ironic lyrics, but it also has those ringing opening chords and that booming backbeat and that chorus that is made for stadiums full of folks who are not unemployed Vietnam veterans to sing at full volume. And you're right, his future is bleak, but the song still has a lot of hope. It's sung defiantly and can be taken as a song overcoming your bad circumstances and still winding up as a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA? Who doesn't want to be a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA? I want to be a cool-rocking Daddy in the USA.

And Every Breath You Take is sung as a love song from a devoted paramour. George Jone's biggest hit and the saddest song in the world, He Stopped Loving Her Today was originally written a joke song where you supposed to laugh at the poor bastard in the title, not feel his pain.


Life's ironies are always interesting.

[kentatm]

A lot of people don't really pay attention to lyrics and for many people that do, the meaning goes over their head.



The one that always makes me laugh is "Semi Charmed Kind of Life" by Third Eye Blind. Musically it's full of jangle pop rock hooks but lyrically its about a depressed crystal meth addict.

[KevinNYC]

$50 for less than 3 hours (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161) of pretending to support Donald Trump. TRUMP SUPPORTS $15 WAGE!

[QUOTE]Donald Trump's big presidential announcement Tuesday was made a little bigger with help from paid actors

[rufuspaul]

The dude is a truther. He could've filled the room with other conspiracy nuts and saved himself some $$$

[rezznor]

[QUOTE]Just When You Thought Trump

[Droid101]

According to fivethirtyeight, he is the most hated (by his own part) candidate EVER (since they starting tracking popularity of primary candidates in 80).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-real-candidate-in-one-chart/

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/enten-datalab-trumphated.png

[Godzuki]

i honestly don't get the point of Trump running, much less a lot of GOP candidates. they are blatantly turning off 3/4's of the country just to cater to the right wing and win primary's.

if u can't win it all whats the point? :confusedshrug:

considering running costs hundreds of millions of dollars, tons of effort, and splinters party unity/votes, it makes no sense why there are so many right wing candidates running with no hope to win.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Trump would make a horrible president for any country, but especially a decent one like the U.S

[BurningHammer]

Trump is having the worst week ever.

NBC just dumped his Miss USA and Miss Universe shows, and even worse, they won't allow him to return as host of "The Apprentice."

All due to his inflammatory comments about Mexico.
About to bump this thread up as well. :oldlol:

Too bad Cuban is with ABC nowadays. Can anybody think of good non-Martha Stewart replacement?

[KingBeasley08]

Damn, his attempt to get attention by running for President backfired hard

[Derka]

Damn, his attempt to get attention by running for President backfired hard
Indeed. Its hysterical to me that he spends all this money he inherited from his old man to run for President so he can use the races to promote his TV shows and pageants (where he makes money these days because his business interests flop quicker than a flaccid dong)...and now none of them want anything to do with him :applause:

[dazzer87]

Sorry ass about to sue NBC......All this hack does is sue companies. :roll: :facepalm