Pros and Cons of these cities

[Heilige]

I will be graduating in May 2017 from college and am considering moving to one of these cities:

Atlanta, Georgia

Boston, Massachusetts

Charlotte, North Carolina

Dallas, Texas

Houston, Texas

Seattle, Washington



What are the pros and cons of each of these cities and which would you recommend? I want to get a job as a bank examiner once I graduate and work in commercial banking. Also, I am interested in investing in real estate. I am basically just interested in my career at the moment. I also am interested in going to operas, symphonies, etc.

[~primetime~]

Dallas

pros - good economy/job market, low cost of living, no state tax
cons - summer is hot as fck

[rufuspaul]

Charlotte:

Pros: Growing city with good job market. Young population (av. age 25). Hot summers but otherwise nice climate (can golf year round). Has NFL, NBA, AAA baseball and hockey. Easy driving distance to mountains or coast. Major airport with direct flights to most cities. 14 local breweries and growing.

Cons: Traffic, sprawl growing pains. Aside from Charlotte, Asheville, Boone and the Research Triangle the rest of NC is a bastion of backwoods redneck racists and homophobes.

[BlazerRed]

Only one that matters is Seattle. The rest are Least Coast cities or southern trash.

Seattle Pros:
Amazing weather in summer
Surrounded by incredible scenery, lots of outdoor options
Good food
Largish city, lots of sports, music, events

Seattles Cons:
Winter weather
Can be hard to make friends

[nathanjizzle]

cons are

Atlanta, Georgia too many black people

Boston, Massachusetts rude white people

Charlotte, North Carolina too hospitable country folk

Dallas, Texas christian texas mentality

Houston, Texas christian texas mentality.

Seattle, Washington antisocial white yuppies

[rufuspaul]

Boston:

Pros: Beautiful in the summer. Lots of history, culture. On the coast. Close to NYC and other parts of New England.

Cons: People can be stand-off-ish, hard to get to know. Winters are hell. The Celtics.

[daily]

Wouldn't employment be the determining factor on what city you move to?

[DeuceWallaces]

Getting a bit ahead of yourself buddy, but good luck.

[Heilige]

Wouldn't employment be the determining factor on what city you move to?


yeah, that is the deciding factor.

[bballnoob1192]

Dallas

pros - good economy/job market, low cost of living, no state tax
cons - summer is hot as fck
winters aint that much fun in dallas either. icy roads all day everyday

[Heilige]

Boston:

Pros: Beautiful in the summer. Lots of history, culture. On the coast. Close to NYC and other parts of New England.

Cons: People can be stand-off-ish, hard to get to know. Winters are hell. The Celtics.


Is Boston known as a racist city?

[Jameerthefear]

ATL
Pros: Lotta shit to do, good nightlife and having an NBA team in town is never a bad thing.
Cons: Traffic is TERRIBLE

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I will be graduating in May 2017 from college and am considering moving to one of these cities:

Atlanta, Georgia
Pros- I have heard the nightlife, culture, music is awesome in this city
Cons- I have heard it still has some really bad neighborhoods. Still pretty rough all over.
Boston, Massachusetts
Pros- One of the safest cities I have been to. South Boston and all those "bad" areas really aren't at all. Great place for college kids and college graduates. Well paying jobs.
Cons- most competitive job market wise out of all the cities you listed. To me it's nightlife was lacking and it doesn't give me that city vibe. Reminds me of Baltimore but a whole lot safer all over.
Charlotte, North Carolina
Pros- Cheap city. Have heard its underrated by those who live there post graduation.
Cons- Can't think of many major things.
Dallas, Texas


Houston, Texas

Haven't been to either Dallas or Houston but a pro is that Texas is relatively cheap. If you are a fresh grad, I would recommend Austin, Texas. Huge bar scene and college/post college scene.

Seattle, Washington

Pros- Haven't been there but the skyline is beautiful from what I've seen. It seems like a good safe city. Friends have walked around 3-4am and feel comfortable.
Cons- It rains a lot. The weather is a lot better down south in California.

What are the pros and cons of each of these cities and which would you recommend? I want to get a job as a bank examiner once I graduate and work in commercial banking. Also, I am interested in investing in real estate. I am basically just interested in my career at the moment. I also am interested in going to operas, symphonies, etc.


For your career plan, I honestly would recommend Charlotte, Austin, or Boston. The one thing about Boston is that it's similar to NYC in terms of competitiveness for jobs. To get a high paying job eventually in banking is pretty hard to attain in Southern cities however.

[Heilige]

For your career plan, I honestly would recommend Charlotte, Austin, or Boston. The one thing about Boston is that it's similar to NYC in terms of competitiveness for jobs. To get a high paying job eventually in banking is pretty hard to attain in Southern cities however.


Thanks man, I appreciate it. In terms of race relations how would you rate those cities?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Thanks man, I appreciate it. In terms of race relations how would you rate those cities?
Race relations can be iffy in any city. I don't think it's a huge deal.

[Heilige]

Race relations can be iffy in any city. I don't think it's a huge deal.


Thanks man. In terms of having symphonies, theater, operas, etc what would be the best citie/s among those? Also, in terms of raising a family, good schools, etc?

[rufuspaul]

Thanks man. In terms of having symphonies, theater, operas, etc what would be the best citie/s among those? Also, in terms of raising a family, good schools, etc?

All of them have their own symphonies and opera companies. The Boston Pops concerts in Symphony Hall and outside on the Esplinade in summer are good.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Thanks man. In terms of having symphonies, theater, operas, etc what would be the best citie/s among those? Also, in terms of raising a family, good schools, etc?

Boston. Great suburbs too.

[GimmeThat]

I'd probably suggest you to talk to your recruiter about this. And if your recruiter says that it really doesn't matter, then perhaps it is time to suspect the possibility of potential/additional income this job entails on its own.

[JohnnySic]

Boston:

Pros: Summer is great if you like hot, humid weather. Lots of beaches, the Cape. Walkable downtown. The Celtics.

Cons: 6+ months shittty weather. Expensive to live. VERY cliquey people. Making friends and dating suck. Limited nightlife options if that's your thing.

[KevinNYC]

As outsider without the inside scoop, I would have the list in this way


Seattle, Washington been there and loved it great high culture




Boston, Massachusetts should be great for high culture, Cambridge nearby too

Charlotte, North Carolina



Atlanta, Georgia
Dallas, Texas



Houston, Texas


Not a fan of hot, hot summers, but also the bottom three on the list never appealed to me for other reasons. Austin would be the Texas city of choice for me

[rufuspaul]

Atlanta:

Pros: Friendly people, plenty of culture, art, music, pro sports. Massive international airport with easy access to just about anywhere in the world. Nice parks and open spaces. Great restaurants in cool neighborhoods like Decatur, Little 5 Points, Buckhead.

Cons: Traffic is a fuking nightmare. Worse than L.A. Mild winters but when the occasional snow comes the entire city shuts down. Other than Savannah and a few spots on the coast the rest of Georgia is meh.

[KevinNYC]

I think if I was about to leave school, I would seriously think about climate change when picking a place to live, if I was planning on being there a while.

Atlanta had a major, major drought just a few years ago. If the recent Pacific weather pattern keeps up, Seattle will be a lot warmer in Winter and Boston will get killed. If the oceans stay warm, the likelihood of major hurricanes increases and Houston is an area that is often hit. They had one storm that dropped 40 inches of rain on them.

[Heilige]

I think if I was about to leave school, I would seriously think about climate change when picking a place to live, if I was planning on being there a while.

Atlanta had a major, major drought just a few years ago. If the recent Pacific weather pattern keeps up, Seattle will be a lot warmer in Winter and Boston will get killed. If the oceans stay warm, the likelihood of major hurricanes increases and Houston is an area that is often hit. They had one storm that dropped 40 inches of rain on them.


What do you mean when you say Boston will get killed?

[rufuspaul]

What do you mean when you say Boston will get killed?


Winter is coming.

[~primetime~]

When I think of 'Boston Culture'

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bostonteens.png

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Boston:

Pros: Summer is great if you like hot, humid weather. Lots of beaches, the Cape. Walkable downtown. The Celtics.

Cons: 6+ months shittty weather. Expensive to live. VERY cliquey people. Making friends and dating suck. Limited nightlife options if that's your thing.

Surprisingly I have heard their nightlife is great for college aged ppl. Although, I have heard about the dating and how it's hard to find. I nearly went to college in Boston. I'm sure I wouldn't have regretted living there.

[rufuspaul]

When I think of 'Boston Culture'

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bostonteens.png


:oldlol: There are rednecks in every region.

[JohnnySic]

Surprisingly I have heard their nightlife is great for college aged ppl. Although, I have heard about the dating and how it's hard to find. I nearly went to college in Boston. I'm sure I wouldn't have regretted living there.
Yeah for college aged people its great. Limited options still. Too many fake "Irish" bars, but that's what people like around here.

[KevinNYC]

What do you mean when you say Boston will get killed?
For the past two years the Pacific has been very hot. This has caused the same weather pattern. Instead of the global wind current circling around the Arctic, they have been very wavy.

The result of these wavy pattern is warm, even hot weather on the Pacific, Alaska in the mid 50's. This as the wave rises, the wave of the current falls over Upper midwest and northeast. Boston has had crazy snowfalls that last two years.

Some people think the anomalous pattern will become far more frequent in the coming years. Essentially the oceans are warming far more than the rest of the planet and that warmth has to go somewhere.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Being born and raised in NYC area, we had frigid winters. Ever been to Boston in December? The suburbs look like the Ice Age hit them. We rarely get it as bad as Boston.

[JohnnySic]

^And Boston is basically tropical compared to Montreal in the winter.

[Nanners]

Out of the cities you listed, I would go with Seattle.

Pros - Beautiful city surrounded by mountains and open water. Easy access to really good hiking, boating, and other outdoor activities. Lots of good jobs and economic opportunity. Very low crime rate. Tons of great food. Weed is legal, if you are in to that kind of thing. Weather is very mild, it rarely gets extremely hot or cold.

Cons - Fairly expensive place to live. The traffic can get pretty shitty. Some people think its difficult to make friends and meet people in Seattle. The sky is often cloudy and grey, which some people don't like (personally I love the Pacific NW weather.)

[Jailblazers7]

Checking out Charlotte tomorrow for a job interview. I'll give my review as an outsider this weekend after I get back.

[rufuspaul]

Checking out Charlotte tomorrow for a job interview. I'll give my review as an outsider this weekend after I get back.


I apologize in advance for the weather we've been having this week. It's been hot as fukk. We usually don't have it this bad until August.

[Jailblazers7]

I apologize in advance for the weather we've been having this week. It's been hot as fukk. We usually don't have it this bad until August.

Not looking forward to walking the city in a suit with that heat but I'll manage. By the way, how is the airport out there? I imagine it's a lot like Pittsburgh but I just wanted to make sure I shouldn't be getting to the airport a little earlier than I normally would. My flight takes off at 8 so I don't anticipate any issues.

[rufuspaul]

Not looking forward to walking the city in a suit with that heat but I'll manage. By the way, how is the airport out there? I imagine it's a lot like Pittsburgh but I just wanted to make sure I shouldn't be getting to the airport a little earlier than I normally would. My flight takes off at 8 so I don't anticipate any issues.

It's not so bad now that they've finished with the newer parking deck construction. Are you renting a car?

[Jailblazers7]

It's not so bad now that they've finished with the newer parking deck construction. Are you renting a car?

Nope, I figured I would just get Ubers or taxis around town and out to the airport.

[rufuspaul]

Nope, I figured I would just get Ubers or taxis around town and out to the airport.

Cool. I use Uber all the time. You should have no problem.

[highwhey]

Out of the cities you listed, I would go with Seattle.

Pros - Beautiful city surrounded by mountains and open water. Easy access to really good hiking, boating, and other outdoor activities. Lots of good jobs and economic opportunity. Very low crime rate. Tons of great food. Weed is legal, if you are in to that kind of thing. Weather is very mild, it rarely gets extremely hot or cold.

Cons - Fairly expensive place to live. The traffic can get pretty shitty. Some people think its difficult to make friends and meet people in Seattle. The sky is often cloudy and grey, which some people don't like (personally I love the Pacific NW weather.)
Sounds like a general description of the entire pacific nw lol. My sister moved out to Portland last year and had similar things to say about it.

[Smook A.]

Houston

Pros: Awesome restaurants, and cheaper cost of living. You can get a pretty large house for about the same price as tiny home in LA.

Cons: Hot as hell. Really humid and bad traffic.

[Nanners]

Sounds like a general description of the entire pacific nw lol. My sister moved out to Portland last year and had similar things to say about it.

yep seattle and portland have a lot of similarities.

i moved from oklahoma city to portland about 6 months ago, best decision i have ever made. :oldlol:

[rufuspaul]

yep seattle and portland have a lot of similarities.

i moved from oklahoma city to portland about 6 months ago, best decision i have ever made. :oldlol:

Yeah, I don't blame you. One of my friends from high school is a chef out there. I went to visit him last year and ended up partying with him and his friends in the restaurant biz who are in this "underground" dinner club of the who's who of the Portland food scene. First time I've ever had pig snout. For an amateur foodie like myself it was an awesome experience. Like any big city there's a downside of homeless, clinically insane people wandering about (welcome to America), but overall I found it to be a very vibrant scene and the coast was beyond beautiful.

[Nanners]

Yeah, I don't blame you. One of my friends from high school is a chef out there. I went to visit him last year and ended up partying with him and his friends in the restaurant biz who are in this "underground" dinner club of the who's who of the Portland food scene. First time I've ever had pig snout. For an amateur foodie like myself it was an awesome experience. Like any big city there's a downside of homeless, clinically insane people wandering about (welcome to America), but overall I found it to be a very vibrant scene and the coast was beyond beautiful.

The food scene here is something else. The amount of new high end restaurants opening every month is staggering. Unlike Boston with seafood or Austin with BBQ, Portland does not really have its own traditional food identity, so there is just an enormous amount of variety. The food scene seems to be closely tied to the craft beer scene, which is also off the charts here.

The homeless here are pretty harmless, you wont see human feces on the sidewalks like you do in san francisco :oldlol:

[Lebowsky]

Yeah, I don't blame you. One of my friends from high school is a chef out there. I went to visit him last year and ended up partying with him and his friends in the restaurant biz who are in this "underground" dinner club of the who's who of the Portland food scene. First time I've ever had pig snout. For an amateur foodie like myself it was an awesome experience. Like any big city there's a downside of homeless, clinically insane people wandering about (welcome to America), but overall I found it to be a very vibrant scene and the coast was beyond beautiful.
Pig snout is a fairly common thing to eat in Spain and France, quite delicious if you ask me. How was is cooked?

[rufuspaul]

Pig snout is a fairly common thing to eat in Spain and France, quite delicious if you ask me. How was is cooked?

It was an appetizer course and was stuffed with mushrooms and deep fried. I would think the chef had to first braise it in order to soften it up. Anyway it was pretty damn good.

[Jailblazers7]

My review of Charlotte:

Pros: It seems to be a melting pot sort of city. Lots of people from other cities and states. Good food and beer (went to 300 East, rufus and had some bomb fish tacos). Friendly people overall and I had the coolest Uber drivers I've ever had lol.

Cons: There is definitely a noticeable sprawl to the area. Not entirely bad because I walked through some neighborhoods just a mile outside the city that look like a small town. It was so ****ing hot but apparently that's not normal this time of year. Financial industry is king which is good or bad depending on your opinion. Panthers and Hornets.

I'd give it a good grade but not sure I'd want to move. Pretty similar feel to Pitt so I'd probably need to get a big offer to make the move.

[rufuspaul]

My review of Charlotte:

Pros: It seems to be a melting pot sort of city. Lots of people from other cities and states. Good food and beer (went to 300 East, rufus and had some bomb fish tacos). Friendly people overall and I had the coolest Uber drivers I've ever had lol.

Cons: There is definitely a noticeable sprawl to the area. Not entirely bad because I walked through some neighborhoods just a mile outside the city that look like a small town. It was so ****ing hot but apparently that's not normal this time of year. Financial industry is king which is good or bad depending on your opinion. Panthers and Hornets.

I'd give it a good grade but not sure I'd want to move. Pretty similar feel to Pitt so I'd probably need to get a big offer to make the move.


:cheers: You were 2 blocks from my house.