LeBron with 35 PPG on 40% shooting, Jordan with 41 PPG on 51% shooting.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Who had the better Finals series?

[riseagainst]

nigguh averaged 36-13-9 with 0 other offensive threats on his team. It'd be different if Kyrie was healthy and played and he stilled shot 40%.

[BlakFrankWhite]

One had a future hall of famer teammate....who's excelled on both ends of the coirt.

The other was surrounded by bums...and had no choice but to play hero ball.

[jayfan]

One could shoot. One can't.



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[jlip]

Actually in the '93 ECF right before the Finals MJ had a shooting series very similar to Lebron's Finals this year. MJ avg. 32.2ppg on just 40% shooting. The difference in terms of results between the two teams was MJ had this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llgnf6gY_gM#t=7m49s).

[tmacattack33]

Scoring isn't even Lebron's best offensive trait.

[FKAri]

Lebron because ESPN told me he's the GOAT

[Sarcastic]

Actually in the '93 ECF right before the Finals MJ had a shooting series very similar to Lebron's Finals this year. MJ avg. 32.2ppg on just 40% shooting. The difference in terms of results between the two teams was MJ had this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llgnf6gY_gM#t=7m49s).

Knicks lost that series because Charles Smith was a scrub that can't make a dunk, not because of Scottie Pippen.

[juju151111]

Actually in the '93 ECF right before the Finals MJ had a shooting series very similar to Lebron's Finals this year. MJ avg. 32.2ppg on just 40% shooting. The difference in terms of results between the two teams was MJ had this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llgnf6gY_gM#t=7m49s).
No had a sprain wrist that entire series and finally took off the brass in the finals. Also Mj wasn't choking in 4th Q.

[kennethgriffin]

nigguh averaged 36-13-9 with 0 other offensive threats on his team. It'd be different if Kyrie was healthy and played and he stilled shot 40%.


you got that right

lebron 39% is not an offensive threat

[jlip]

Jordan worshipers...:facepalm

MJ is the only athlete in sports history that can't have a bad/ mediocre series or be carried in clutch moments by a teammate without an excuse.

[DJ Leon Smith]

Jordan worshipers...:facepalm

MJ is the only athlete in sports history that can't have a bad/ mediocre series or be carried in clutch moments by a teammate without an excuse.

Remember when Jordan had a bad/ mediocre series and was outscored by a bench player and lost a ring?

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Shut down thread.

Kill yourself.

Jeff pat me on the back.

Strippers suck my balls.

Goodnight.

[jlip]

Remember when Jordan had a bad/ mediocre series and was outscored by a bench player and lost a ring?

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Shut down thread.

Kill yourself.

Jeff pat me on the back.

Strippers suck my balls.

Goodnight.

The difference between me and MJ worshipers is I can admit Lebron, without excuse, inexplicably played horribly in the 2011 Finals. The cult of MJ can't bring themselves to express anything that makes him look fallible. It's sacrilegious and blasphemous to them to do so.

[DonDadda59]

It'd be different if Kyrie was healthy and played and he stilled shot 40%.

Bron stilled shot 39.9% against the Bulls with Kyrie starting in every game that series. :confusedshrug:

[3ball]

35 shots to get 35 points is bad... Anytime someone does this, we say it's bad.

But when Lebron does it, we put on the blinders and act like its good?... Pathetic.

[Meticode]

When looking at offense you can't just look at field goal percentage and points scored and determine what is better.

http://i.imgur.com/EkmtUhB.png

[3ball]

Lebron had a bad supporting cast


True, but Lebron is not skilled enough to get 41 PPG alongside a good supporting cast anyway.. He's basically NEVER capable of averaging 40 PPG in a series.. If he couldn't do it in this series, he can't do it period.

It takes a different kind of skill to put up GOAT stats alongside a good supporting cast like MJ did.. Lebron simply doesn't have the sophisticated skill necessary to put up all-time numbers alongside a good supporting cast.

The only reason he even averaged 35 is because he had a bad supporting cast, and even then it took him 35 shots to do it.. 35 shots to get 35 points is HORRIBLE by any standard, let alone comparable to MJ.

[DonDadda59]

When looking at offense you can't just look at field goal percentage and points scored and determine what is better.

http://i.imgur.com/EkmtUhB.png

No one else touched the ball on the team until there was about 5 seconds or less on the shot clock. That's not exactly conducive to great offense.

If your role is to stand around and watch one guy go Iso on every possession and maybe get to launch a last second 3 or at best be his garbage man on the offensive glass... you're not going to be in any sort of offensive flow. :lol

[navy]

No one else touched the ball on the team until there was about 5 seconds or less on the shot clock. That's not exactly conducive to great offense.

If your role is to stand around and watch one guy go Iso on every possession and maybe get to launch a last second 3 or at best be his garbage man on the offensive glass... you're not going to be in any sort of offensive flow. :lol

Actually, that shows the Cavs would have been better off giving Lebron the ball even more than they did. Those stretches without Lebron are too brutle against the warriors defense.

This is what happens when you have no offensive creators and Delly plays 40 minutes a night.

[Meticode]

If your role is to stand around and watch one guy go Iso on every possession and maybe get to launch a last second 3 or at best be his garbage man on the offensive glass... you're not going to be in any sort of offensive flow. :lol
Their offensive flow was lost when Love and Irving went down. And as you can see the team couldn't create any offense when he was off the floor.

[3ball]

Actually, that shows the Cavs would have been better off giving Lebron the ball even more than they did. Those stretches without Lebron are too brutle against the warriors defense.
Lebron shot 32.5% on his isolations, so the only pertinent question is whether it's more beneficial for an opponent to let Lebron isolate at 32.5% a pop, or let Deandre Jordan shoot FT's.

Seriously, what's gives the other team more expected value: letting Lebron isolate at 32.5%, or let Deandre shoot FT's at a 50% clip?

[navy]

Lebron shot 32.5% on his isolations, so the only pertinent question is whether it's more beneficial for an opponent to let Lebron isolate at 32.5% a pop, or let Deandre Jordan shoot FT's.

Seriously, what's gives the other team more expected value: letting Lebron isolate at 32.5%, or let Deandre shoot FT's at a 50% clip?
Meh. The Cavs couldnt crack 20% without Lebron. So 32.5 % > 20%. :confusedshrug:

[FKAri]

Lebron shot 32.5% on his isolations, so the only pertinent question is whether it's more beneficial for an opponent to let Lebron isolate at 32.5% a pop, or let Deandre Jordan shoot FT's.

Seriously, what's gives the other team more expected value: letting Lebron isolate at 32.5%, or let Deandre shoot FT's at a 50% clip?


You're not good at math are you? :oldlol:

[dontgetchoked]

Bron stilled shot 39.9% against the Bulls with Kyrie starting in every game that series. :confusedshrug:

thats because jimmy butler put the handcuffs on him

[dontgetchoked]

Meh. The Cavs couldnt crack 20% without Lebron. So 32.5 % > 20%. :confusedshrug:

so lebron was bad and the cavs were worse... i dont get what the big deal is here.

kobe has had terrible finals series and people don't hesitate to give him shit for it, you also see, in this very thread, people trying to find bad performances by jordan. uhh ok? everyone in the history of the league has had bad games, why is lebron getting all the excuses? i remember kobe had a bad shooting game in the finals where he grabbed like 15 rebounds but people still say he was terrible, and he was. as was lebron.

it is true that scoring is only one part of the game, but it is, by far, the most important aspect of the game. besides, his defense wasn't good either. he was good on the boards, and with the passing. thats not good enough for finals mvp, and its not a good game from anyone else, except lebron, apparently.

[Mr. Jabbar]

its 39% not 40