2015 Copa America

[9erempiree]

Better late than never.

As of 6/17:

Group A
Pos Team Pts P W D L GS GA +/-
1 Chile Chile 4 2 1 1 0 5 3 +2
2 Bolivia Bolivia 4 2 1 1 0 3 2 +1
3 Mexico Mexico 2 2 0 2 0 3 3 +0
4 Ecuador Ecuador 0 2 0 0 2 2 5 -3
Group B
Pos Team Pts P W D L GS GA +/-
1 Argentina Argentina 4 2 1 1 0 3 2 +1
2 Paraguay Paraguay 4 2 1 1 0 3 2 +1
3 Uruguay Uruguay 3 2 1 0 1 1 1 +0
4 Jamaica Jamaica 0 2 0 0 2 0 2 -2
Group C
Pos Team Pts P W D L GS GA +/-
1 Brazil Brazil 3 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1
2 Venezuela Venezuela 3 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1
3 Peru Peru 0 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1
4 Colombia Colombia 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 -1

[9erempiree]

Brazil vs. Colombia....4:30PM PST
http://www.sportchaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/brazil-vs-colombia.jpg

[alenleomessi]

I still think Argentina are going to win but they are far from playing the football they could.. i dont think any team/nation in football had this many bad coaches in a row:

pekerman
basile
maradona :oldlol:
batista
sabella
tata


They better hire Simeone for the next WC

[9erempiree]

They are still very good even with a bad coach. Tata got kicked out last game too. It is frustrating because they will look very good in attack and then go to sleep for the next 5 minutes. I don't think they are very motivated even though they haven't won in years.

With Messi anything can happen with bad coach or not.

I am more surprised in how Colombia has looked so bad.

[9erempiree]

David Luiz dropped.

[9erempiree]

pfft, I only watch team USA

We're all Americans here and this is a good tournament.

[GimmeThat]

my comment about messi.

is that I suppose, it is quite amazing the position and speed and movement players recognize in getting between him and a ball. pass him the ball, and god's compasses is moving with an angle. no strings attached.

[GimmeThat]

pfft, I only watch team USA

right, not the one to say the difference between head game and air game.

[9erempiree]

They are still very good even with a bad coach. Tata got kicked out last game too. It is frustrating because they will look very good in attack and then go to sleep for the next 5 minutes. I don't think they are very motivated even though they haven't won in years.

With Messi anything can happen with bad coach or not.

I am more surprised in how Colombia has looked so bad.

Love country messi.

Not so much club messi.

[9erempiree]

Good game so far.

Very intense and good pace.

[9erempiree]

Colombia!

1-0

[alenleomessi]

neymar has worse supporting cast than lebron.. these nikkas cant play

[9erempiree]

Falcao is garbage.

[9erempiree]

Ospina! Sick save.

Great delivery though.

[9erempiree]

New era of brazil is garbage.

[9erempiree]

He use to be so likable but not on the pitch...kicks a ball at a player after the game.

https://vine.co/v/eiZBXPTxvZ9

Carlos Sanchez a beast too. Last of a dying breed of DM.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Colombia have like 5 or 6 strikers better than Falcao.

If Mourinho gets something out of him he is the GOAT manager.

[9erempiree]

0-0 Peru/Venezuela in Group C so far.

[bdreason]

I have a couple Brazilian friends, and they get pumped for this tournament.

[kurple]

Copa America > EC

[kurple]

Colombia have like 5 or 6 strikers better than Falcao.

If Mourinho gets something out of him he is the GOAT manager.
:facepalm

form is tempoary, class is permanent

but i agree he has lost a step. still a good manager should know how to still take advantage of his strengts. He was never sprinting from people in his prime

and his finishing is far from past prime Torres level

[9erempiree]

Peru won.

Falcao is done, he may be able to pull it off in Europe, which I doubt but he has been the same old Falcao for United. Once they subbed him off the team played better. Like when they subbed him off and Fellaini of all people went beast mode.

I'm sure he's a good dude but he is just horrible right now. He relies on good service and he's not hold up either.

It will be interesting to see what they are going to do with Neymar after that disgraceful display of his. Too much pressure on him to win and Colombia finally beat Brazil after all these years.

[9erempiree]

Currently the group of death.

Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Brazil 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
2 Peru 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
3 Venezuela 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3
4 Colombia 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3


Good times.

[LockoutOver11]

why is peru doing this to my peruchos.. carajo!

almost tying brazil, beating Venezuela in the clutch... all to setup a big ****ing matchup with columbia thats probably gonna end up being heartbreaking to my peoples... but maybe not:)

vamos Peru!!

[Timmy D for MVP]

I love the Copa America. It seems like in every game there's a stretch where neither team is too concerned with organization because someone pissed someone else off.

[9erempiree]

This is Copa America and Americans usually play very physical. This is old school authentic futbol. Guys like Neymar and some players from Brazil are not use to this physical style or at least Neymar forgot how it is to play in America. Refs are not going to give you calls because you dive. I think Neymar lost his cool because the refs were not giving him the dives like he gets in La Liga and in Europe.

Copa America is always competitive because of the physicality. In Euros, we see some countries destroying others but in Copa they are pretty evenly matched.

Colombians just bitch slapping the Brazilians and the Brazil team were full of European league players.

[alenleomessi]

neymar banned for 2 matches.. brazil are done

[Mr. Jabbar]

Currently the group of death.

Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Brazil 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
2 Peru 2 1 0 1 2 2 0 3
3 Venezuela 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3
4 Colombia 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3


Good times.

wow nice group :applause:

champion will be either argentina or chile tho. brazil utterly sucks

[Timmy D for MVP]

neymar banned for 2 matches.. brazil are done

Like... what even happens in Brazil if they lose on Sunday? :confusedshrug:

[9erempiree]

neymar banned for 2 matches.. brazil are done

Shit team with or without him.

[9erempiree]

wow nice group :applause:

champion will be either argentina or chile tho. brazil utterly sucks

Chile looks good.

Argentina too loaded and too many ball hogs or playmakers. Nobody wants to run.

Brazil does suck. They need to score in the first half or else teams will figure them out.

[9erempiree]

Like... what even happens in Brazil if they lose on Sunday? :confusedshrug:

They lose and they are done.

As for what happens in Brazil? They take the Copa America very very serious. It is something they want to win. I expect backlash and Neymar is going to get scrutinized. He is the chosen one for the country.:oldlol:

What sucks is the Brazil/Venezuela game is the very last game of all groups. They don't even play the same time as Colombia/Peru. So if Colombia or Peru wins, both teams know what they have to do to advance. They can play for the tie and get 2nd place in group so they don't have to meet Argentina until the end.

Doesn't matter because I think Venezuela are going to give it to the Brazilians. This is going to hurt especially after getting killed in the WC.

[9erempiree]

The Mexicans are so garbage.:facepalm

[9erempiree]

Business as usual for Chile.

1-0

[9erempiree]

Alexis Sanches in god mode.

Beautiful run and diving header by him.

2-0 Chile

:applause:

[alenleomessi]

so neymar ban is 4 matches now.. out for the tournament :facepalm
probably ruined whatever chances he had to end up 2nd in the balon dor voting

[9erempiree]

so neymar ban is 4 matches now.. out for the tournament :facepalm
probably ruined whatever chances he had to end up 2nd in the balon dor voting

He threw that shit away. It would have to be a historic run for himto win and he would have to face messi in the tourney.

[9erempiree]

3-0

Too easy.

[Mr. Jabbar]

5-0 awesome match!

DAT last own goal tho :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

We got new American powerhouses.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Goddamnit we need a result here to make the Brazil/Venezuela match interesting!

[Mr. Jabbar]

Goddamnit we need a result here to make the Brazil/Venezuela match interesting!

didnt happen :(

[kurple]

Peru is playing some inspired football this copa. looks like they will face Bolivia in the last 8

[alenleomessi]

Chile-Uruguay
Peru-Bolivia
Argentina-Colombia
Brazil-Paraguay

[Mr. Jabbar]

Chile-Uruguay
Peru-Bolivia
Argentina-Colombia
Brazil-Paraguay

:rockon:

[9erempiree]

Thank goodness Colombia wen through.

[9erempiree]

Chile vs Uruguay 4:30PM PST

http://media.tinngan.vn:6060/archive/images/2015/03/06/104720_2.png

vs.

http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/share/28/287/710/2871009_370.jpg

[Mr. Jabbar]

Chile vs Uruguay 4:30PM PST

http://media.tinngan.vn:6060/archive/images/2015/03/06/104720_2.png

vs.

http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/share/28/287/710/2871009_370.jpg

:applause: :applause: :applause:

chile uruguay should be good today

[9erempiree]

Uruguay tough as hell.

[9erempiree]

Getting rough now.

Uruguay going to score soon.

[9erempiree]

Cavani 2nd yellow. Kicked out.

:facepalm

[knickballer]

Cavani 2nd yellow. Kicked out.

:facepalm

Disgusting flop by the Chilean player though. Undeserved.

[9erempiree]

Disgusting flop by the Chilean player though. Undeserved.

I am shock. Big game changer.

[knickballer]

Valdivia is the Chilean david silva. Magician with the ball

[9erempiree]

Fight breaking out. :facepalm

Controversial.

[9erempiree]

Inconsistent officiating.

Vidal gets pummeled from behind.

[Mr. Jabbar]

wow epic match, as tough as it gets in soccer. lots of contact.

chile had like 80% ball possession, sick. the better team advances and gets eye test certified.

[9erempiree]

wow epic match, as tough as it gets in soccer. lots of contact.

chile had like 80% ball possession, sick. the better team advances and gets eye test certified.

They are the best team.

URG was dirty as usual.

[Mr. Jabbar]

They are the best team.

URG was dirty as usual.

agreed

[9erempiree]

Cavani 2nd yellow. Kicked out.

:facepalm

Here it is...

http://streamable.com/9eas

[Mr. Jabbar]

Here it is...

http://streamable.com/9eas

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

uruguay got some of their own medicine LOL @ that ass fingering

[alenleomessi]

falcao benched for colombia in a attacking lineup for them..

3-1 arg im thinking.. lets go!

[9erempiree]

Ospina!

:eek:

who needs Cech.

[knickballer]

columbia hacking the shit out of Argentina..

[alenleomessi]

colombia lucky as hell so far.. wont survive for another 45 mins.. needs to attack

[knickballer]

Are these columbian players playing rugby? They have 5 yellow cards and they are very fortunate they didn't receive another 3-4 in addition to 2 PK's..

[imnew09]

Columbia pathetic af. This is futbol not football..

[9erempiree]

This is Copa America bros. It is very physical.

Still clean as but physical.

[9erempiree]

Argies falling on the ground for no reason as well. Most of their players play in Europe, you are not going to get these calls in America.

Did you guys not see Cavani get finger banged?

[9erempiree]

wow...Leo full steam ahead.

[9erempiree]

Falcao in. :facepalm

Couldn't be worse right?

[imnew09]

Damn is james really overrated or outta shape..

[9erempiree]

Ospina :eek:

[9erempiree]

Damn is james really overrated or outta shape..

neither.

we've seen what he can do last summer.

[knickballer]

James looking like he bout to cry

[9erempiree]

They need to put Bacca in there.

[9erempiree]

what a fvcking game....great clearance:applause:

[alenleomessi]

this is just absolutely insane

[imnew09]

Penalty...

[knickballer]

I usually try to stay on the fence when it comes to criticizing referees but this has been one of the worst referring i've seen. The clear hacks he allowed Columbia to get which changed the nature of the game and then there was those two potential missed PK's.

[9erempiree]

Argentina deserves to go through even though I'm rooting for Colombia.

[9erempiree]

Everyone is beast mode on this shit.

[9erempiree]

wow...sergio ramos PK right there.:facepalm

[9erempiree]

wtf...too much drama man

[alenleomessi]

there is god

[9erempiree]

Tevez deserved that.:applause:

Holy shit...still got them goosebumps.

[imnew09]

Too many lebron out there

[knickballer]

lmao @ the Columbian CB blasting that PK to Saturn. Then blaming the grass after lol

Argentina deserved the win but I really though they were going to choke that away. Ball hitting the cross bar, ball going through Romero's legs/arms, etc.

[9erempiree]

Ospina was a beast though. Arsenal should of just kept him.

Good luck to him.

[9erempiree]

To think if Neymar didn't lose his mind it could have been Messi/Neymar final with Ballon implications.

[alenleomessi]

lmao @ the Columbian CB blasting that PK to Saturn. Then blaming the grass after lol

Argentina deserved the win but I really though they were going to choke that away. Ball hitting the cross bar, ball going through Romero's legs/arms, etc.
if tevez had the balls to take the penalty in time if would have been over quick.. rojo and biglia.. lol.. cant believe messi has to play with those guys

[9erempiree]

if tevez had the balls to take the penalty in time if would have been over quick.. rojo and biglia.. lol.. cant believe messi has to play with those guys

Messi play with those guys?

Yea, lets forget the other studs on the team. The fact of the matter is Argentina won.

You always like the make excuses.

[knickballer]

if tevez had the balls to take the penalty in time if would have been over quick.. rojo and biglia.. lol.. cant believe messi has to play with those guys

Yea, I was wondering why Biglia took the PK instead of Tevez. Maybe Tevez was just a bit nervous? IDK

As for Rojo he's actually a very good player imo. Very technical for a player his size and position. In fact that whole Argentina backline is pretty damn good.

[alenleomessi]

Messi play with those guys?

Yea, lets forget the other studs on the team. The fact of the matter is Argentina won.

You always like the make excuses.
what other studs? the only two other studs are kun and di maria and they have been shocking for argentina for quite some time now.. di maria had some shocking corners today.. and his first touch is laughable

[alenleomessi]

otamendi has been great though.. cant believe he wasnt even picked for last year's world cup..

[9erempiree]

They've been playing bad all tournament because of effort. Too many playmakers and nobody making runs but not the lack of talent.

[Andrew Wiggins]

what other studs? the only two other studs are kun and di maria and they have been shocking for argentina for quite some time now.. di maria had some shocking corners today.. and his first touch is laughable

this is nonsense men. argentina is loaded with top players at their positions.


ospina was unreal yesterday

[kurple]

youre so dislikable alen... everything isnt about messi


tho, how bout Peru? Guerro:bowdown: :bowdown:

[alenleomessi]

this is nonsense men. argentina is loaded with top players at their positions.


ospina was unreal yesterday
Really? Lets see

Romero-a reserve at monaco and very shaky at times for argentina.. looks solid at penalties though ill give him that

Rojo-i was impressed with him last WC but so far he has been quite shocking.. maybe playing alongside phil jones and smalling does that for you?

Garay-solid defender but not 'top'

Otamendi-he has been quality so far and had a great season for valencia but i still have to see more than 1 season to call someone a top top player

Zabaleta-horrible season for city, declining fast.. not even close to a top player anymore

Mascherano-he is top defensively but when you need to score he offers nothing.. thats why he never got a chance for barca at DM.. and thats why he was great last year against the likes of germany, netherlands, belgium who didnt just sit back

Biglia-worst argentina starter ever

Pastore-see garay

Di Maria-Runs but doesnt look like that player from last season.. The ball bounces from his feet all the time.. His crosses are awful.. I guess the class is still there but lets not act like he wasnt one of the EPL's flops this season

Aguero-top player and one of the best on his day.. but that day never came for argentina.. im not sure what is the problem but i have never seen a game where he played the way he is supposed to play alongside messi.. he scored a hat-trick few weeks ago against bolivia when messi wasnt playing.. not sure whats the problem.. best buddies should have great cohesion

Banega-he had a great season for sevilla and i thought he was quite good the first game but then Tata benched him for Biglia.. yesterday after he came in he was absolutely shocking.. like he hasnt played football for a year

Tevez-when was the last time he had a top game for argentina? 2010 WC 1/8 final against mexico?

Lavezzi, Lamela, Higuain etc.. Good depth players nothing more

[Andrew Wiggins]

Really? Lets see

Romero-a reserve at monaco and very shaky at times for argentina.. looks solid at penalties though ill give him that

Rojo-i was impressed with him last WC but so far he has been quite shocking.. maybe playing alongside phil jones and smalling does that for you?

Garay-solid defender but not 'top'

Otamendi-he has been quality so far and had a great season for valencia but i still have to see more than 1 season to call someone a top top player

Zabaleta-horrible season for city, declining fast.. not even close to a top player anymore

Mascherano-he is top defensively but when you need to score he offers nothing.. thats why he never got a chance for barca at DM.. and thats why he was great last year against the likes of germany, netherlands, belgium who didnt just sit back

Biglia-worst argentina starter ever

Pastore-see garay

Di Maria-Runs but doesnt look like that player from last season.. The ball bounces from his feet all the time.. His crosses are awful.. I guess the class is still there but lets not act like he wasnt one of the EPL's flops this season

Aguero-top player and one of the best on his day.. but that day never came for argentina.. im not sure what is the problem but i have never seen a game where he played the way he is supposed to play alongside messi.. he scored a hat-trick few weeks ago against bolivia when messi wasnt playing.. not sure whats the problem.. best buddies should have great cohesion

Banega-he had a great season for sevilla and i thought he was quite good the first game but then Tata benched him for Biglia.. yesterday after he came in he was absolutely shocking.. like he hasnt played football for a year

Tevez-when was the last time he had a top game for argentina? 2010 WC 1/8 final against mexico?

Lavezzi, Lamela, Higuain etc.. Good depth players nothing more


that's as good as a supporting cast as you'll find on any national team in the world.

[9erempiree]

Alen actually made a list? He actually believes Argentina is garbage. They have studs playing that are top 5 or top 10 in their respective positions and with a few from solid players.

This complaining is coming off a win too.

[alenleomessi]

this brazil game was so predictable.. i had it 1-x @ 17.. too bad other stuff screwed me

brazil have one of the best penalty specialist.. on the bench.. diego alves.. dunga :applause:

[knickballer]

Maybe the Brazilian players should stop practicing Rabonas and Nutmegs and learn to take some PK's.

[9erempiree]

Garbage. For some reason I knew they were going to lose if it went to PK. Look at all those scrubs on this particular team. It's sad because I grew up watching so many great Brazilian teams and they were always a level above the rest. T

[Timmy D for MVP]

I cannot stand the Bein Sports broadcast. I cannot stand Ray Hudson.

[alenleomessi]

I cannot stand the Bein Sports broadcast. I cannot stand Ray Hudson.
i can watch him commentating on messi all day long.. but as far as a normal games and normal players go he gets way too much into it.. using way too much adjectives for mediocre players doing mediocre things.. not very knowledgeable either but thats nothing new with commentators

[9erempiree]

i can watch him commentating on messi all day long.. but as far as a normal games and normal players go he gets way too much into it.. using way too much adjectives for mediocre players doing mediocre things.. not very knowledgeable either but thats nothing new with commentators

just what I expected you to say.

I only watch Hudson streams because it is familiar and anyone streaming Bein is pretty reliable.

It's going to be 1-0 games from here on out.

[Timmy D for MVP]

i can watch him commentating on messi all day long.. but as far as a normal games and normal players go he gets way too much into it.. using way too much adjectives for mediocre players doing mediocre things.. not very knowledgeable either but thats nothing new with commentators

:oldlol:

I figured you'd like him on Messi games.

At first I thought he was just the worst kind of commentator hugging on Messi's nuts but I was happy to learn that he is an equal opportunity yeller.

[9erempiree]

The funny thing is that he does all his commentating in a room in Los Angeles. It is a small little department for the soccer broadcasting. He is in a sound proof room.

They are never on location.

[9erempiree]

Holy shit!

Equalizer.

[imnew09]

Lol own goal..

[Timmy D for MVP]

Wow... they looked dangerous to end the half and a little bit in the recent minutes but I can't believe they equalized.

[9erempiree]

Peru is the big sleeper. Playing the hardest of all countries.

[Timmy D for MVP]

The funny thing is that he does all his commentating in a room in Los Angeles. It is a small little department for the soccer broadcasting. He is in a sound proof room.

They are never on location.

Yeah a couple matches in the group stage struggled with broadcast delay on the network.

[alenleomessi]

lets see what the refs have in mind now.. no way they let this game go to penalties.. too risky

[Timmy D for MVP]

Tough match for the ref imo.

I think soccer has a serious officiating issue and I don't understand why they don't look to fix it.

[9erempiree]

Refs about to get shot if that happens.

[9erempiree]

God damn...these guys are good.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Super strike.

Terrible haircut.

[imnew09]

Id love to see Arg vs Chile

[9erempiree]

****ing world class shit. Damn, that shit caught me off guard.

[imnew09]

Never seen anything so rigged lol

[Mr. Jabbar]

That second chilean goal :applause:

[alenleomessi]

messi-dimaria-pastore putting on a masterclass

[9erempiree]

messi-dimaria-pastore putting on a masterclass

I thought you said Pastore sucked tho.

[alenleomessi]

I thought you said Pastore sucked tho.
i said solid but not a top player.. he has been great this tournament though..very inconsistent at club level however

[alenleomessi]

Treble at club level, two major tournament finals with his country in one year
#justanotherdayattheoffice

[bdreason]

Just watched the highlights. Messi straight up embarassing people out there. Guy is unreal. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[9erempiree]

Messi going to Messi.

Fvck club Messi though.

[knickballer]

Messi going to Messi.

Fvck club Messi though.


ayye, you recognizing Messi is the GOAT?


Hold this L madrid fans

[9erempiree]

ayye, you recognizing Messi is the GOAT?


Hold this L madrid fans
:facepalm

Can I not give credit to a fellow American?

I like to see Americans do well.

[imnew09]

Damn lavezzi

[ArbitraryWater]

link doe

[kNicKz]

Rooting for Chile

[ArbitraryWater]

Congratulations Chile :applause: :banana:

and thanks for the PM/link ^knickz

[ArbitraryWater]

4-1 wow... what a trashing this was

[lakers_forever]

Messi scored just one pk in the whole Copa. Not one a single goal in a open play. Last time dude scored in an elimination game for Argentina was in Copa America 2007. Not one in the 2010 WC, not one in Copa America 2011, not one in 2014 World Cup, not one in 2015 Copa America.

[alenleomessi]

Messi scored just one pk in the whole Copa. Not one a single goal in a open play. Last time dude scored in an elimination game for Argentina was in Copa America 2007. Not one in the 2010 WC, not one in Copa America 2011, not one in 2014 World Cup, not one in 2015 Copa America.
Do the world a favor and kill yourself

[imnew09]

Messi scored just one pk in the whole Copa. Not one a single goal in a open play. Last time dude scored in an elimination game for Argentina was in Copa America 2007. Not one in the 2010 WC, not one in Copa America 2011, not one in 2014 World Cup, not one in 2015 Copa America.

Dont be a messi hater. He single handed took this Arg to the final. His team choked besides the game was rigged. He plays more in the midfield for this arg team. Fken boxscore watcher go sukc a dic

[lakers_forever]

Do the world a favor and kill yourself

Why? I just stated a fact.

[lakers_forever]

Dont be a messi hater. He single handed took this Arg to the final. His team choked besides the game was rigged. He plays more in the midfield for this arg team. Fken boxscore watcher go sukc a dic

I stated a fact. Now an opinion: for Argentina, he clearly is far from his level at Bar

[alenleomessi]

Why? I just stated a fact.
Have you watched the game? The tourney? Any Argentina game ever? His role is completely different.. Dont know what highlights have you watched.. but going past 3-4 players and ending up with a goal is extremely rare even for his standards.. this is not fifa.. why it happens for barca and not for argentina.. well its because for barca he gets the ball near the goal and when he gets past those players he is already few yards from the goal and he can score.. because they have real mids.. for argentina.. he has to go extremely deep to take the ball.. he basically has to go past 6-7 players before he comes near to the goal.. its impossible.. he did go past few players today on couple of occasions but his teammates bottled it.. like the ending of regulation time when lavezzi and higuain completely messed up.. im guessing its his fault that higuain and banega missed the penalties?

[lakers_forever]

Have you watched the game? The tourney? Any Argentina game ever? His role is completely different.. Dont know what highlights have you watched.. but going past 3-4 players and ending up with a goal is extremely rare even for his standards.. this is not fifa.. why it happens for barca and not for argentina.. well its because for barca he gets the ball near the goal and when he gets past those players he is already few yards from the goal and he can score.. because they have real mids.. for argentina.. he has to go extremely deep to take the ball.. he basically has to go past 6-7 players before he comes near to the goal.. its impossible.. he did go past few players today on couple of occasions but his teammates bottled it.. like the ending of regulation time when lavezzi and higuain completely messed up.. im guessing its his fault that higuain and banega missed the penalties?

Of course I did. I have been watching football for 25 years. Argentina does not indeed compare with Bar

[ArbitraryWater]

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[alenleomessi]

Again, having to do more than you are required=your game doesnt flow as well=you are technically not as good

he is a winger, false nine, playmaker at the same time for argentina.. there is so much you can do.. the fact that he led this bunch of scrubs to a final two times in a row says a lot

[lakers_forever]

Again, having to do more than you are required=your game doesnt flow as well=you are technically not as good

he is a winger, false nine, playmaker at the same time for argentina.. there is so much you can do.. the fact that he led this bunch of scrubs to a final two times in a row says a lot

He carried them out of the group stages (and an easy group BTW) indeed at the 2014 WC. But his teamamates were far from scrubs and stepped up in the elimination games, specially Di Maria and the defense that did not concede a single goal in the Last 16, quarter final and semi final.

Let's not act like Messi plays for Venezuela.

[ArbitraryWater]

Again, having to do more than you are required=your game doesnt flow as well=you are technically not as good

he is a winger, false nine, playmaker at the same time for argentina.. there is so much you can do.. the fact that he led this bunch of scrubs to a final two times in a row says a lot

Messi wasn't dominant in the last years KO stages lol.... Argentina scrapped by game by game.. barely.

[sweggeh]

Alen in full on damage limitation mode :oldlol:

Why wont you just accept Messi has failed spectacularly on the international stage time and time again?

How can you be the supposed best player of all time and you keep blaming it on others when you lose? I could understand if Messi was playing great and these guys were messing it up for him, but he mostly plays crap for Argentina. He didn't deserve shit.

[alenleomessi]

Messi wasn't dominant in the last years KO stages lol.... Argentina scrapped by game by game.. barely.
They had the same team last year man.. dont you hear what im saying?

2010 midfield=masche, washed up veron, two wingers in di maria and maxi rodriguez.. messi has to play a playmaker again


2006 was the only time they had a real midfield led by riquelme.. messi was way too young though(18-19) coming from an injury and coach didnt trust him enough either..

Cambiasso, Riquelme, Lucho Gonzales, Aimar..
Born at the wrong time i guess..


They COULD still win tournaments though.. IF they had a decent f*cking coach who makes the right subs and team selections..

Tata subs today: Takes out Dimaria for Lavezzi (ok an injury), takes out Kun to put Higuain (who the f*ck would choose Higuain before Tevez?!).. and the sub he has been using the most, Pastore who has been playing great for Banega.. Biglia played pretty much every minute.. No impact whatsoever

[Mr. Jabbar]

Grats chile alpha AF, thats how u play a final. Best team of the tournament by far. The last penalty was legendary alpha :bowdown: :bowdown: :applause: :applause:

[Mr. Jabbar]

Alen in full on damage limitation mode :oldlol:

Why wont you just accept Messi has failed spectacularly on the international stage time and time again?

How can you be the supposed best player of all time and you keep blaming it on others when you lose? I could understand if Messi was playing great and these guys were messing it up for him, but he mostly plays crap for Argentina. He didn't deserve shit.

players also allow messi to "play" in european tournaments, as in he is never fouled that hard. south american tournaments are tough AF, chile was a great exampel today, zero respect for him, he doesn't feel so comfortable

[StephHamann]

Damn, if you only knew Messi from the national team you could say he is one of the biggest chokers of all time.