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SexSymbol
06-17-2015, 06:40 PM
Alrigh, so think about how many shots LeBron took, and then look at these performances by his teammates:
G1-Kyrie Irving 23/7/6/4/2. Mozgov with 16/7 and tristan thompson only shot four times, but grabbed 15 rebs.
Let's compare it to Curry's help - Klay with 21 on 5-14 shooting, Iguodala with 15 and Draygod with 12/6 on 4-13 shooting. Advantage, obviously to LeBron. Bear in mind, that bron took 38 shots, immobilizing his teammates from having even better performances
G2Everybody on GSW struggling not named Klay Thompson, LeBron still shoots 35 times, making 11 shots. His best help was Delly with ATG defense on curry and Mozgov with 17/11, Tristan with 14 healthy rebs, JR gave 13 off the bench and James Jones made a run by himself scoring 8 points. Advantage bron
G3-LeBron with an average performance on offense and his help was Tristan with 10/13, delly with 20/5/4 and JR with 10 points off the bench. Curry's help was Klay with 14 on 6-16, Iggy with 15/5/5 and David Lee with 11. Barnes goes 0/8, draygod 2/7. Advantage bron...
G4-LeBron plays like an ass, his bigs play great, doe shump, delly and smith go 7-35. Currys help was better this game.
G5-Tristan Thompson 19/10, JR smith with 14/7. Nobody else worth mentioning besides shump who had 10/5. Curry's help was better
G6-Thompson 15/13, Mozgov 17/12 and JR smith with 19 and great clutch performance that nearly brought the cavs back when they gave up. Curry's help was 25 by iggy, 16/10 by draygod and 10 by both livingston and ezeli.
Supporting casts were pretty equal in this game.
So we have 3-2 to lebron's supporting casts. Now imagine if he didn't shoot 30+ fgas every game like a selfish retard. Throw it inside, and watch mozgov get 24/12 every single game.

LeFraud James
06-17-2015, 06:41 PM
Are Lithuanians as stingy with their potatoes as Latvians?

raprap
06-17-2015, 06:44 PM
Iggy had the better supporting cast man.

SexSymbol
06-17-2015, 07:29 PM
come in here bran stans, don't be afraid

warriorfan
06-17-2015, 07:30 PM
media driven narrative

WTFdidNBAbigsGO
06-18-2015, 03:21 PM
this is a GREAT thread. More people need to see this and it will put an end to this narrative. Bottom line is his guys stepped up, they may not have been big names but they stepped up.

Unbias aswell. :cheers:

Andrei89
06-18-2015, 03:50 PM
Iguadala had more help than Lebron

TheMarkMadsen
06-18-2015, 03:53 PM
Brans stans avoiding this thread..

Great post.

Brans selfishness and unwillingness to run an offense that wasnt 99% dominated by him either driving or shooting absolutely killed the cavs offense. They had that huge mis match down low and never utilized that.

riseagainst
06-18-2015, 04:04 PM
the best player on the GSW, Iguodala, had waaaay more help than Lebron.

jimmy77x
06-18-2015, 04:11 PM
Look at all the beta male bran stans repeating each other with the same rehashed iggy nonsense :lol brainwashed puppet's

coin24
06-18-2015, 04:20 PM
:lol :lol

LeBald stans avoiding this like the plague. It's there only argument bran had no help. Obviously they had a huge advantage down low but they went away from it..
Fatigued? Maybe if he wasn't pounding the ball for 90% of the game and maybe learned to play off the ball.. When will these tards realise he freezes everyone else out with his ISO bullshit stat padding. Unless you "surround him" with talent ie enough to win even without him, bran is useless as shit..

MP.Trey
06-18-2015, 04:21 PM
Iggy had the better supporting cast man.
This.

Nuff Said
06-18-2015, 04:25 PM
the best player on the GSW, Iguodala, had waaaay more help than Lebron.
Did this simple ass comment really need its own thread?

HOoopCityJones
06-18-2015, 04:32 PM
Did this simple ass comment really need its own thread?

This ni99a is confused about his identity right now, he went from trolling Lebron stans to becoming one of them. :facepalm

That's what happens when you stay down in the trenches for too long, ni99as get PTSD and shit.

KobeMagic
06-18-2015, 04:36 PM
This ni99a is confused about his identity right now, he went from trolling Lebron stans to becoming one of them. :facepalm

That's what happens when you stay down in the trenches for too long, ni99as get PTSD and shit.

:lol

Showtime2001
06-18-2015, 04:38 PM
Same excuse new year they always use this excuse once he loses in the finals but if he wins its because it was all him and he was carrying the team by himself.

Nash
06-18-2015, 06:13 PM
he didn't have help.

Kyrie and Love out, take out 2nd and 3rd option out of any team. I dare you.

How well would Duncan do without the helpl of Kawhi and Parker?
How well would Kobe do without the help of Gasol and Bynum?
How well would Pierce do without the help of Allen and KG?
How well would Curry do without the help of Klay and Green?
How well would Durant do without the help of Westbrook and Ibaka?


Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG

SexSymbol
06-18-2015, 06:15 PM
bran stans, come in this thread.

STATUTORY
06-18-2015, 06:16 PM
I believe Cialis and Viagra has the type of help that lebron is looking for

SexSymbol
06-18-2015, 06:19 PM
he didn't have help.

Kyrie and Love out, take out 2nd and 3rd option out of any team. I dare you.

How well would Duncan do without the helpl of Kawhi and Parker? win finals mvp with a 27/11 performance in his second year in the league
How well would Kobe do without the help of Gasol and Bynum? win three rings and score second most points in a game ever
How well would Pierce do without the help of Allen and KG? Hit gamewinners in playoffs
How well would Curry do without the help of Klay and Green? he only played for like 5 years and in the only finals those two both underperformed badly
How well would Durant do without the help of Westbrook and Ibaka? Average insane numbers still on great efficiency


Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG
Why would I care what happened without him on the floor? focker played 46 mpg, the sample size is minimal. And if their his help, then they're also helping him when he's on the floor right?

sd3035
06-18-2015, 06:27 PM
Lebald was garbage in the finals, couldn't even shoot 40% :roll:

Durant would have swept GS with that Cavs team

coin24
06-18-2015, 06:37 PM
he didn't have help.

Kyrie and Love out, take out 2nd and 3rd option out of any team. I dare you.

How well would Duncan do without the helpl of Kawhi and Parker?
How well would Kobe do without the help of Gasol and Bynum?
How well would Pierce do without the help of Allen and KG?
How well would Curry do without the help of Klay and Green?
How well would Durant do without the help of Westbrook and Ibaka?


Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG

Stay mad Pauk :lol :lol

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Optimus Prime
06-18-2015, 07:02 PM
LeBron needs help. He needs to team up with Bill, Ted and Rufus to go back in time and get prime Jordan, Magic, Bird and Russell.

97 bulls
06-18-2015, 07:35 PM
Alrigh, so think about how many shots LeBron took, and then look at these performances by his teammates:
G1-Kyrie Irving 23/7/6/4/2. Mozgov with 16/7 and tristan thompson only shot four times, but grabbed 15 rebs.
Let's compare it to Curry's help - Klay with 21 on 5-14 shooting, Iguodala with 15 and Draygod with 12/6 on 4-13 shooting. Advantage, obviously to LeBron. Bear in mind, that bron took 38 shots, immobilizing his teammates from having even better performances
G2Everybody on GSW struggling not named Klay Thompson, LeBron still shoots 35 times, making 11 shots. His best help was Delly with ATG defense on curry and Mozgov with 17/11, Tristan with 14 healthy rebs, JR gave 13 off the bench and James Jones made a run by himself scoring 8 points. Advantage bron
G3-LeBron with an average performance on offense and his help was Tristan with 10/13, delly with 20/5/4 and JR with 10 points off the bench. Curry's help was Klay with 14 on 6-16, Iggy with 15/5/5 and David Lee with 11. Barnes goes 0/8, draygod 2/7. Advantage bron...
G4-LeBron plays like an ass, his bigs play great, doe shump, delly and smith go 7-35. Currys help was better this game.
G5-Tristan Thompson 19/10, JR smith with 14/7. Nobody else worth mentioning besides shump who had 10/5. Curry's help was better
G6-Thompson 15/13, Mozgov 17/12 and JR smith with 19 and great clutch performance that nearly brought the cavs back when they gave up. Curry's help was 25 by iggy, 16/10 by draygod and 10 by both livingston and ezeli.
Supporting casts were pretty equal in this game.
So we have 3-2 to lebron's supporting casts. Now imagine if he didn't shoot 30+ fgas every game like a selfish retard. Throw it inside, and watch mozgov get 24/12 every single game.
Great post what the Cavs got out of Mozgov, Thomspn, Smith, and Delivadova is very similar to Jehoakim Noah (Thompson), Demarcus Cousins (Noah), Jamal Crawford (Smith), and Kirk Hinrich (Delivadova).

The "supporting cast" stepped up. I never understood this logic. Why is Kareem Abdul Jabaars 30 pts worth more than Satchmo Jones (i made him up) 30 pts????

97 bulls
06-18-2015, 07:43 PM
he didn't have help.

Kyrie and Love out, take out 2nd and 3rd option out of any team. I dare you.

How well would Duncan do without the helpl of Kawhi and Parker?
How well would Kobe do without the help of Gasol and Bynum?
How well would Pierce do without the help of Allen and KG?
How well would Curry do without the help of Klay and Green?
How well would Durant do without the help of Westbrook and Ibaka?
No one is saying he should've won. The question is whether or not he had any help.


Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG
This is exaggerated. And lets not forget that James offense was piss poor as well. 36 pts on 33 shots? And 7-8 fts? Come on.

97 bulls
06-18-2015, 07:45 PM
I forgot to mention Iman Shumpert. He totally shut down Klay Thomson. So now you gave what was basically this team during thus Finals

Noah
Cousins
Hinrich
Crawford
And Tony Allen (Iman Shumpert)

JellyBean
06-18-2015, 09:51 PM
Iguadala had more help than Lebron


But I thought LeBron made his teammates better?

JerrySeinfeld
06-18-2015, 09:52 PM
All he had to do was put his ego aside for one play and let Kyrie close out game 1 and the Cavs win the series.

gilalizard
06-18-2015, 09:52 PM
But I thought LeBron made his teammates better?

Oh he does. Until they lose. Then he's fatigued.

HOoopCityJones
06-18-2015, 10:01 PM
Oh he does. Until they lose. Then he's fatigued.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RoUGRanvWrg/UO8MkcEpKVI/AAAAAAAAAIY/QVAk4X8Fhz8/s1600/Really+sick.gif

Da_Realist
06-18-2015, 10:49 PM
Lebron James: "We got enough to win it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvkfjXWdMKA&t=7m45s

WTFdidNBAbigsGO
06-19-2015, 02:10 AM
Lebron James: "We got enough to win it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvkfjXWdMKA&t=7m45s
LeBron James: Cavaliers 'ran out of talent' in NBA Finals

SHIIIIEEEEEE, just discovered a huge excuse by this self proclaimed "King"