Steph Curry is on a Michael Jordan level of closing in the Finals

[warriorfan]

Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3
2015 Lebron James 10.2 (51.7% TS)

[SyRyanYang]

You sure you got the right stats? 75% TS in the 4th quarter is unbelievable.

[navy]

Jordan 6/6 in FMVP
Curry 0/11 in votes

[Cleverness]

Most 4th Quarter Points in Final since 1991
1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3
2015 Lebron James 10.2 (51.7% TS)

:lebronamazed:

[raprap]

Fmvp :applause:




Oh wait.

[SyRyanYang]

Jordan 6/6 in FMVP
Curry 0/11 in votes

The fact that a hater like you is comparing Stephen to MJ says a lot.

[navy]

The fact that a hater like you is comparing Stephen to MJ says a lot.
Nobody cares about Steph Curry (Hence his lack of votes)

If you know about warriorsfan you would get it. :lol

[KiiiiNG]

must have been a lot of empty stats/late game free throws considering the kid didn't even win fmvp.

the voters aren't dumb. actually, they're ****ing brilliant. they watched the games and decided andre iguodala was their most important player in the finals.

not only was curry a second or third fiddle, but he was third fiddle to the worst finals mvp in modern basketball history. :eek:

how on EARTH can an mvp win a championship but drop as a player. usually they get WORSHIPPED and hyped to the moon.

curry was so garbage nobody cares to even talk about him in that light. he's just another player on the team.

insane. 0/11.

[SyRyanYang]

Nobody cares about Steph Curry (Hence his lack of votes)

If you know about warriorsfan you would get it. :lol

You clearly cared enough to post in the thread

[BlakFrankWhite]

0/11

[NumberSix]

Role player ring.

[KiiiiNG]

Role player ring.
yep.

dude was so trash he lost votes to a guy on the LOSING team.

:lol

those 11 voters basically took a gigantic shit on curry's non-existent legacy.

[Achilleas]

when college teams disrespect curry he prove to them how stupid they coaches were by winning the mvp and the champion,
now again he will show to the media "lebron stans" how stupid they were by winning more trophies and fmvp than lebron james
prepare for greatness :bowdown:

[keep-itreal]

who was FMVP again?

[scandisk_]

last time i checked chip > fmvp

:lol

chip+fmvp > damage control articles

[Trollsmasher]

Role player ring.
this

[CarlosBoozer]

He usually takes wild 3's when his team is already up 10 + free throws + no pressure, also where his fmvp?

[knicksman]

You know youre a true alpha if you dont care that your teammate outshines you. Because alphas are secure. Anyone who understands basketball knows that curry is now the best in the world. In fact, after the battle in game 5, curry made bran so shook that he mindlessly utter the words, "im confident coz im d best player." Curry is now living rent free on his head coz deep down he knows that curry just surpassed him. I mean after 12 yrs, this guy still get single coveraged while an unathletic short, young player gets defended like shaq in the 3PT LINE. And still managed 10.8 on 75 ts. Thats how bad brans work ethic is

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Game 1:
2-5 / 0-1 / 0-0 for 4 points.
-2 to put GS up 1 - 3:34
-2 to take the lead - :53

Game 2:
2-6 / 1-4 / 2-2 for 7 points
-3 to cut the lead to 6 - 2:45
-2 for 2 free throws to cut the lead to 5 - 2:34
-2 to tie the game - :08

Game 3:
6-9 / 5-8 / 0-0 for 17 points
-3 to cut the lead to 4 - 7:24
-2 to cut the lead to 3 - 5:39
-3 to cut the lead to 1 - 2:45
-3 to cut the lead to 5 - 1:23
-3 to cut the lead to 4 - :27
-3 to cut the lead to 3 - :18

Game 4:
3-5 / 1-2 / for 7 points
-2 to put GS up 12 - 9:38
-3 to put GS up 13 - 8:00
-2 to put GS up 19 - 3:06

Game 5:
5-7 / 2-4 / 4-4 for 16 points
-2 to put GS up 2 - 8:45
-2 to put GS up 2 - 7:33
-2 to put GS up 8 - 3:10
-3 to put GS up 10 - 2:44
-3 to put GS up 11 - 1:22
-2 for 2 free throws to put GS up 13 - :59
-2 for 2 free throws to put GS up 15 - :36

Game 6:
3-6 / 2-4 / 5-6 for 10 points
-3 to put GS up 10 - 9:48
-3 to put GS up 11 - 7:26
-2 to put GS up 13 - 1:54
-2 for 2 free throws to put GS up 11 - 1:00
-1 for 2 free throws to put GS up 7 - :37
-2 for 2 free throws to put GS up 6 - :29

I got 10.1 ppg on 64 TS% tho. Unless they counted OT.

[WorldWarriors]

LoL Curry is no MJ. Please stop the nonsense . But don't pretend like he is some type of role player. He's the best player on the warriors hands down and led his team to the mountain top. Andre got them to the other side.

[FKAri]

0/11

[Angel Face]

0/11

Can you explain this 0/11 nonsense?

[scandisk_]

Can you explain this 0/11 nonsense?

Finals MVP Voting

1. Iggy - 7/11
2. Bran - 4/11
3. Steph - 0/11

[Asukal]

:oldlol: at these butthurt bran stans.

Curry may not have won FMVP but he is hands down the warriors' best player and everyone knows. He didn't perform as well as he could've but truth is he was doubled most of the time he had the ball and in the clutch moments he hit a lot of impossible shots. Le2/6 could only dream of making those kind of shots. :whatever:

[Angel Face]

Finals MVP Voting

1. Iggy - 7/11
2. Bran - 4/11
3. Steph - 0/11

Ok. Still can't believe Steph didn't receive a single vote. He was their closer most of the games.

[WorldWarriors]

Steph is the MVP of the league. Iggy is the finals MVP. Both Warriors. Both with 2015 championship rings.

[FKAri]

:oldlol: at these butthurt bran stans.

Curry may not have won FMVP but he is hands down the warriors' best player and everyone knows. He didn't perform as well as he could've but truth is he was doubled most of the time he had the ball and in the clutch moments he hit a lot of impossible shots. Le2/6 could only dream of making those kind of shots. :whatever:

Not a Bran stan. I just think its fkin hilarious how Steph got 0 fkin votes.

[scandisk_]

Ok. Still can't believe Steph didn't receive a single vote. He was their closer most of the games.

Nike paid em judges.

MVP + Finals MVP for Under Armour

chucking bran for Nike

that's a bad rep

:lol

[WorldWarriors]

Ok. Still can't believe Steph didn't receive a single vote. He was their closer most of the games.
Looks like a block vote for the warriors. It had to be one or the other. Otherwise the vote would be split and a risk that the award would go to the losing teams player. But who knows? I would have given the vote to Iggy anyway.

[Asukal]

Not a Bran stan. I just think its fkin hilarious how Steph got 0 fkin votes.

Yeah it's funny but its not the first time it happened. :oldlol:

[FKAri]

Yeah it's funny but its not the first time it happened. :oldlol:

Basketball has the dumbest and least knowledgeable tv/media analysts of ANY sport out there.

[warriorfan]

Can you live with it?

[J Shuttlesworth]

0/11

[warriorfan]

must have been a lot of empty stats/late game free throws considering the kid didn't even win fmvp.

the voters aren't dumb. actually, they're ****ing brilliant. they watched the games and decided andre iguodala was their most important player in the finals.

not only was curry a second or third fiddle, but he was third fiddle to the worst finals mvp in modern basketball history. :eek:

how on EARTH can an mvp win a championship but drop as a player. usually they get WORSHIPPED and hyped to the moon.

curry was so garbage nobody cares to even talk about him in that light. he's just another player on the team.

insane. 0/11.

meltdown

[3ball]

.
................Percentage of team points scored while player was on floor


.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO.....PO 4th...Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 35.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)



Curry's 4th quarter and clutch is less than 35-year old MJ.. :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

.
.......Curry's 4th quarter and clutch is less than 35-year old MJ:



................Percentage of team points scored while player was on floor


.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO.....PO 4th...Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 35.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)



The stats don't lie.. :confusedshrug:

Curry is the point guard and a play creator while Jordan is a wing and a play finisher so naturally he will have a small percentage higher of his team's points...Since he is finishing the plays. Otoh Curry is creating for his other teammates more, so he is not only scoring less points out of design, but he is boosting his teammates as well. So it is natural that he will not score a larger percent of his team's points when compared to a play finisher.

[3ball]

.
Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced



Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced



Jordan assisted on the highest proportion of teammate FG's, so he led his team in passing.

[3ball]

Curry is the point guard and a play creator while Jordan is a wing and a play finisher


Jordan led his team in passing just like Curry does - he led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (see stats in previous post), so he assisted on the highest proportion of teammate FG's.

Jordan's goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the greatest performance and biggest load ever carried.

Curry can't match him in ANY area, including passing - can Curry average 30/9/11 at point guard with 10 triple-doubles in 11 games like Jordan did?... :oldlol:.. excuse me, I had to wipe some tears away.. what a good laugh.. Curry doesn't compare to Jordan.





it's natural that Curry will not score a larger percent of his team's points when compared to a play finisher like Jordan.


You should be aware that Curry's 3-point efficiency is offset by lower midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26) efficiency and higher turnovers, which result in lower efficiency per possession than Jordan.

Jordan's superior efficiency is remarkable considering he carried a bigger load: Jordan produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with less turnovers, while also carrying a larger load on defense.. This is the case for 1991, 1996, and for his overall career.

Ultimately, Jordan achieved the highest honor (winning championship and FMVP), while carrying a bigger load on both ends, all while having superior efficiency per possession - that covers ALL the bases.
.

[bigkingsfan]

Pretty sure Curry carries the bigger load than Jordan.

[3ball]

Pretty sure Curry carries the bigger load than Jordan.

Why don't you look it up, rather than be wrong?... Everything in the following paragraph is a statistical fact, including the stuff on Jordan's larger load:



Curry's 3-point efficiency is offset by lower (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26) midrange efficiency and higher turnovers, which results in lower efficiency per possession than Jordan (ortg).

Jordan's superior efficiency is remarkable considering he carried a bigger load: Jordan produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with less turnovers, while also carrying a larger load on defense.. This is the case for 1991, 1996, and for his overall career.

Ultimately, Jordan achieved the highest honor (winning championship and FMVP), while carrying a bigger load on both ends, all with greater efficiency per possession - that covers all the bases..

[bigkingsfan]

Ask Madonna bra.

[3ball]

Ask Madonna bra.


You're confusing Curry with Pippen.. :rolleyes: .. and you spelled "bruh" wrong.. :facepalm

Anyway, the notion that Curry carries a larger load than Jordan is quite ridiculous - Jordan led his team in scoring for every series of his career by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) - no other all-time great led their team in scoring for every series, let alone by 15.4 ppg like Jordan.. Let that sink in - Jordan was on another level from all other players.

Of course, Jordan led the team in passing too - he led the Bulls in assist % for both (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49) 3-peats.. Ultimately, his goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the greatest performance and biggest load ever carried.. Curry doesn't come close.. :confusedshrug:

[bigkingsfan]

Scottie and Michael used to compete on everything. Jordan used always claim his hands were bigger, but they weren’t. Scottie was very blessed down below. And that killed Michael. Johnny said, “you should have seen the girls pippen had waiting for him everywhere we went. Madonna used to pick him up in a limo with a hot tub every time we went to L.A. Michael used to tell Madonna he could
satisfy her better, to which Madonna would tell him “not a chance.””

[Prime_Shaq]

Just not quite at Shaq's level

[Quickening]

https://media.giphy.com/media/bmujtlix2RKZG/giphy.gif

[riseagainst]

Curry sucks bruh. He's got destroyed by Lebron.

[warriorfan]

Thanks for the bump guys...this thread proves exactly what I have been saying

Look at Curry's dominance last year in the Finals vs the same team who were playing better defenders for more minutes.

What is the only difference between this year and last?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/25/21/3382DE5F00000578-3558358-image-m-20_1461615147097.jpg

Curry suffering a serious MCL injury midway through the playoffs

So it's safe to say that the differentiating factor that negatively effected Steph Curry's performance was this serious MCL injury



Other people in the media are starting to catch onto this as well


Many people felt he simply wasn't healthy after spraining his right MCL in the first round of the playoffs. Though he returned in the second round and played well sporadically, he notably lost his trademark shiftiness with the ball. Curry struggled with side-to-side movement after the injury, particularly on the perimeter, where he couldn't lose and punish opponents.


This seemed most evident on the biggest possession of the Finals. After Kyrie Irving hit what proved to be the winning 3-pointer, Curry came down the other way and got Kevin Love on a mismatch. Love, a slow-footed big man, normally wouldn't have a chance at staying with Curry. And though Love did an excellent job trying to stay attached to Steph on the perimeter, the Stephen Curry from the regular season most likely could have shaken Love quickly.


Curry simply couldn't get the separation he needed. The miss was essentially the dagger for the Warriors.


The Cavs won the championship with an incredible comeback, but it's also fair to question whether they got Curry's best shot in the series.

http://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-curry-knee-injury-evident-game-7-2016-6

[Nilocon165]

Thanks for the bump guys...this thread proves exactly what I have been saying

Look at Curry's dominance last year in the Finals vs the same team who were playing better defenders for more minutes.

What is the only difference between this year and last?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/25/21/3382DE5F00000578-3558358-image-m-20_1461615147097.jpg

Curry suffering a serious MCL injury midway through the playoffs

So it's safe to say that the differentiating factor that negatively effected Steph Curry's performance was this serious MCL injury



Other people in the media are starting to catch onto this as well









http://www.businessinsider.com/stephen-curry-knee-injury-evident-game-7-2016-6
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