what kind of numbers would Kobe have put up against the type of defense

[STATUTORY]

that Golden state was throwing at Lebron?

single coverage and open shots on the perimeter

:confusedshrug:

[plowking]

Well he got single coverage in game 7 of the 2010 finals. Ray Allen managed to hold him to 6-24. That is the last example we have of Kobe in the finals with single coverage, so I'll say something in that region.

Fair?

[HOoopCityJones]

Well he got single coverage in game 7 of the 2010 finals. Ray Allen managed to hold him to 6-24. That is the last example we have of Kobe in the finals with single coverage, so I'll say something in that region.

Fair?

You're such a liar. :roll:

[BigTicket]

He'd average something like 40/5/2, and the Warriors would still win.

[plowking]

You're such a liar. :roll:

Another poster posted a video of the game. There was a series of 8 missed shots in a row, all on Allen, all single coverage. How am I lying when this is an actual thing that happened and there is evidence of?

[G0ATbe]

Currently or primebe?

Right now probably 40/5/8

Prime, 65/5/5

[Angel Face]

Currently or primebe?

Right now probably 40/5/8

Prime, 65/5/5


:roll:

[BlakFrankWhite]

Currently or primebe?

Right now probably 40/5/8

Prime, 65/5/5

:roll:

[riseagainst]

28-5-2, 40%FG. No one to bail him out. Gets swept.

[Nuff Said]

Kobe would not get single coverage and would hoist up ridiculous shots anyways, resulting in similar low efficiency numbers.

[plowking]

In all seriousness, I think Kobe puts up 28-32ppg, 5rpg and 4apg on anywhere from 40-45% give or take 1.5% each side in case of a bunch of outlier games.

[imnew09]

Considering Alvin Gentry is GSW defensive coach, we all saw what happened to the Suns when he played zone and had single coverage on kobe

Kobe torched his whole damn team in 2010 playoff series.


I would assume Alvin would not make the same mistake by giving single coverage

[navy]

Considering Alvin Gentry is GSW defensive coach, we all saw what happened to the Suns when he played zone and had single coverage on kobe

Kobe torched his whole damn team in 2010 playoff series.


I would assume Alvin would not make the same mistake by giving single coverage
You mean Ron Adams? Alvin Gentry was the offensive coach.

[3ball]

yeah kobe has given gentry all kinds of heartache over the years.

[riseagainst]

Considering Alvin Gentry is GSW defensive coach, we all saw what happened to the Suns when he played zone and had single coverage on kobe

Kobe torched his whole damn team in 2010 playoff series.


I would assume Alvin would not make the same mistake by giving single coverage


:facepalm

[imnew09]

You mean Ron Adams? Alvin Gentry was the offensive coach.

Well Gentry knows better not to give Kobe single coverage. Even Steve wonder could see not to give Kobe single coverage

[SwayDizzle]

Currently or primebe?

Right now probably 40/5/8

Prime, 65/5/5
about right

[3ball]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-05-2015/P5Zone.gif


Well he got single coverage in game 7 of the 2010 finals.



Kobe has never been covered like this ^^^^^ in his life.

Point me to ONE instance where he went 1-on-1 all alone on the strongside, with the paint wide open and all 4 help defenders on the far weakside.

I can show you literally 50 situations like this for Lebron from just 3 games.. But show me JUST ONE for Kobe.. Just one.. I'll wait

[andgar923]

Well he got single coverage in game 7 of the 2010 finals. Ray Allen managed to hold him to 6-24. That is the last example we have of Kobe in the finals with single coverage, so I'll say something in that region.

Fair?
One huge difference.

The entire side wasn't empty and help was nearby.

[catch24]

Kobe has never been covered like this ^^^^^ in his life.

Point me to ONE instance where he went 1-on-1 all alone on the strongside, with the paint wide open and all 4 help defenders on the far weakside.

I can show you literally 50 situations like this for Lebron from just 3 games.. But show me JUST ONE for Kobe.. Just one.. I'll wait


One huge difference.

The entire side wasn't empty and help was nearby.

^I've been reading Plowking post things like Kobe and Lebron were "covered the same way", but its BS.

He doesn't have to lie to make Bron look good - and the funny thing is, he never used to be that way. Dude is full-boar LeBron zombie.

[Nash]

nobody would defend kobe like that because he's not good enough to earn being defended like that is the real answer to this question. lebron is a triple double threat, kobe is not that. defend lebron any other way and you'll get beat by lebron trashing your whole team defense the way Atlanta was beat.

[STATUTORY]

Well he got single coverage in game 7 of the 2010 finals. Ray Allen managed to hold him to 6-24. That is the last example we have of Kobe in the finals with single coverage, so I'll say something in that region.

Fair?

:roll: :roll: i dunno what bootleg vhs version of the final you saw over there in Australia but in real life that was not the case

[HOoopCityJones]

Whoever brought up Gentry is spot on.

He tried to have Grant Hill single coverage Kobe in 2009 and Kobe absolutely had his way with The Suns. They ran essentially the same system as GSW.


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/620749_o.gif

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Won the series btw.

[STATUTORY]

Whoever brought up Gentry is spot on.

He tried to have Grant Hill single coverage Kobe in 2009 and Kobe absolutely had his way with The Suns. They ran essentially the same system as GSW.


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/620749_o.gif

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Won the series btw.

:roll: :roll: Lebron would have tried to post up grant hill from the 3 point line and pushed with his forearm all the way to the rim

[3ball]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-05-2015/P5Zone.gif


Kobe has never been covered like this ^^^^^ in his life.

Point me to ONE instance where he went 1-on-1 all alone on the strongside, with the paint wide open and all 4 help defenders on the far weakside.

I can show you literally 50 situations like this for Lebron from just 3 games.. But show me JUST ONE for Kobe.. Just one.. I'll wait



Plowking, don't be ghost on this one ^^^.

Either provide me with an instance where Kobe enjoyed a similar type of isolation, or admit that he never got to isolate like that, and that he obviously would destroy such a setup for 40+ PPG.

[HOoopCityJones]

"Only guy who can make those kinds of shots is making Hanes commercials"

[navy]

Alvin Gentry is the warriors offensice coach
Ron Adams is the defense coach

Why are you guys bringing up Gentry?

[HOoopCityJones]

Alvin Gentry is the warriors offensice coach
Ron Adams is the defense coach

Why are you guys bringing up Gentry?

Because they ran similar schemes, namely the single coverage on the perimeter. Similar fast face game, etc.

You guys are so shook that all you can focus on is Alvin Gentry and can't refute shit that's actually being discussed. :confusedshrug:

[sportjames23]

Currently or primebe?

Right now probably 40/5/8

Prime, 65/5/5

:roll:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Tiny Tony still doesn't know what isolation, double-teams and actual traps are. :oldlol: This is a worse beat down than the one I gave him in the other thread. Bwahahaha

[sportjames23]

"Only guy who can make those kinds of shots is making Hanes commercials"


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[riseagainst]

"Only guy who can make those kinds of shots is making Hanes commercials"

"Bad Hanes commercials might i add."

[HOoopCityJones]

Notice how even tho both are single covered but Gentry , unlike Kerr provided his defender with weak side help. Look at all the space LBJ has to operate compared to Kobe. This shit is a wash.


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-05-2015/P5Zone.gif

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/620749_o.gif

[3ball]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-05-2015/P5Zone.gif


Kobe has never been covered like this ^^^^^ in his life.

Point me to ONE instance where he went 1-on-1 all alone on the strongside, with the paint wide open and all 4 help defenders on the far weakside.

I can show you literally 50 situations like this for Lebron from just 3 games.. But show me JUST ONE for Kobe.. Just one.. I'll wait



Plowking, don't be ghost on this one ^^^.

Either provide me with an instance where Kobe enjoyed a similar type of isolation, or admit that he never got to isolate like that, and he obviously would destroy such a setup for 40+ PPG.
.

[sd3035]

The Warriors would never have allowed such defense on a great scorer like Bryant

If they were dumb enough to do that, he would have easily put up 50 every game

[sd3035]

The Warriors basically said: This guy absolutely sucks, we should just stand around and let him chuck his team to an L

[STATUTORY]

The Warriors basically said: This guy absolutely sucks, we should just stand around and let him chuck his team to an L
Steph basically confirmed it in the post game press conference, Lebron is all empty stats

[sd3035]

Steph basically confirmed it in the post game press conference, Lebron is all empty stats

His fraudulent way of racking up empty stats has been exposed too

[Rooster]

Notice how even tho both are single covered but Gentry , unlike Kerr provided his defender with weak side help. Look at all the space LBJ has to operate compared to Kobe. This shit is a wash.


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-05-2015/P5Zone.gif

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/620749_o.gif

Lebron does not have the midrange nor the footwork to score like Kobe. He's more like an all around playmaker who can score. In the Finals against a very good defender, it shows that he's very limited on his offense although he's always a threat.

[riseagainst]

he's going to put up 28-5-3 on 40%FG. But don't worry, Pau gasol will be there to clean up his bricks. Expect 20 offensive rebounds from Gasol.

[HOoopCityJones]

he's going to put up 28-5-3 on 40%FG. But don't worry, Pau gasol will be there to clean up his bricks. Expect 20 offensive rebounds from Gasol.

Too bad Lebron made his Frontcourt's goat rebounding go to waste. :applause:



More bricks than anyone in Finals history.

[riseagainst]

Too bad Lebron made his Frontcourt's goat rebounding go to waste. :applause:



More bricks than anyone in Finals history.

can you imagine if he had Pau Gasol. He would be grabbing 20 offensive rebounds and they'd win 4-2 vs the Warriors. He'd also average over 20 points because lebron would set him up for great dunks and layups. That's the type of player lebron is. He makes his teammates better.

:bowdown:

[Kvnzhangyay]

Why does it matter because the defense would be totally different.

Kobe would probably average 40-45 ppg on 45% with this current defense, but give Lebron how they would probably defend Kobe, and he would average like 15 apg

[kennethgriffin]

Didnt post achilles injury kobe have like 44 on golden state in just 3 quarters this season?



Prime kobe would average 50 on them.. especially if it was single coverage and them daring kobe to shoot 3s and long 2s wide open

[HOoopCityJones]

can you imagine if he had Pau Gasol. He would be grabbing 20 offensive rebounds and they'd win 4-2 vs the Warriors. He'd also average over 20 points because lebron would set him up for great dunks and layups. That's the type of player lebron is. He makes his teammates better.

:bowdown:

Except that two mentally weak betas cancel each other out. Just ask Cp3 and Blake Griffin. :bowdown:

[Mr. Jabbar]

you throw that kind of defense at kobe and besides scoring 50 he will take it personal, as a disrespect to his offensive quality and score 60-70 the next game. you NEVER make an alpha phat dick silverback gorilla mad

[riseagainst]

Didnt post achilles injury kobe have like 44 on golden state in just 3 quarters this season?



Prime kobe would average 50 on them.. especially if it was single coverage and them daring kobe to shoot 3s and long 2s wide open

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y-djvCdyN8

here you go.
You can clearly see that the defense on Kobe during this game was lazy and he was never double teamed.

btw Kobe shot 15/34 with 16 FTA for his 44 points, while only having 5 rebounds and 3 assists.
Lebron in game 1 in the FINALS put up 44 points on 18/38 with only 10 FTA, while having 8 rebounds and 6 assists.

the biggest difference between the two is that Kobe was -34 while lebron was only -3.

You do the math.

:lol

[HOoopCityJones]

36 yr old Kobe dropping the same number as prime Lebron.

Damn shame.