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3ball
06-19-2015, 05:12 AM
Just like he did Isiah, Stockton, Penny, and Payton - see extensive highlights of MJ guarding all these PG's in the tailored youtube videos at the bottom.

MJ would take Curry out of the game just like Delladova did.

On offense, MJ would shoot 59% against the 1-on-1 clearouts before Kerr picks his poison and starts doubling him.

And then, like clockwork, MJ's fully-expected double-teams spring his teammates - this is the entire reason MJ's teammates are lauded - coaches are forced to choose between letting MJ shoot like a big man against single coverage, or double-team and spring MJ's "stacked" supporting cast.

MJ was a SG and guarded PG's routinely, like Travis Best and Mugsy Bogues.. He set the record with 9 All-Defense 1st Team selections... 1988 DPOY... Was the only player ever with 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season (he did it twice).


MJ GUARDING ISIAH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9MfhFFE7fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQZnESjOkyA


MJ GUARDING PAYTON:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meL62CUehuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFiqeJcgXfg


MJ GUARDING PENNY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F3Q3qP_jP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdcxo7dHZhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjE7g1btBAY


MJ GUARDING STOCKTON:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOuMwmXtgd0
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oarabbus
06-19-2015, 05:15 AM
Chef Curry bout to fry MJ offensively.

Genaro
06-19-2015, 05:15 AM
I'm disappointed by the lack of gifs. I closed the other tabs to prevent my browser from crashing.

3ball
06-19-2015, 06:09 AM
I'm disappointed by the lack of gifs. I closed the other tabs to prevent my browser from crashing.


The videos in OP are summary videos showing only the possessions where MJ guarded that point guard (videos not made by me).

ImKobe
06-19-2015, 06:35 AM
MJ is also a lot lighter and quicker and he knows how to destroy his opponents mentally. There's no way a 6-8 260 pound dude should be guarding a 6-3 160 pound guy anyways. Lebron was the biggest player on the floor for like half the series when the dubs ran small ball, what makes you think he's going to keep up with the smallest guy on the court lol.

andgar923
06-19-2015, 07:54 AM
If that slower unathletic Euro dude was giving Curry the biz, what makes people think a taller, quicker, defensive stopper like MJ won't shut him down?

Not to say Curry won't score on him a few times, but his overall performance would be suck.

sd3035
06-19-2015, 07:57 AM
I'm disappointed by the lack of gifs. I closed the other tabs to prevent my browser from crashing.

What do you have going on there? A bit of netscape and windows 97?

ralph_i_el
06-19-2015, 08:19 AM
If that slower unathletic Euro dude was giving Curry the biz, what makes people think a taller, quicker, defensive stopper like MJ won't shut him down?

Not to say Curry won't score on him a few times, but his overall performance would be suck.

Delly is Australian and went to college in California

JtotheIzzo
06-19-2015, 08:28 AM
Pippen and MJ would have trapped him at center court occasionally but I doubt MJ would have guarded him, then what would they do, put John Paxson on Klay or Draymond? Steve Kerr on Barnes? BJ Armstrong on Bogut?

I think LeBron has a lot of issues, and is a bit of a puss, but enough is enough, he played heroically in the finals, brought a spoon to a knife fight and did as good as that team possibly could.

The matchups were the best for the Cavs, they absolutely took Klay out of the series which enabled them to stay in it.

sekachu
06-19-2015, 08:36 AM
Just like he did Isiah, Stockton, Penny, and Payton - see extensive highlights of MJ guarding all these PG's in the tailored youtube videos at the bottom.

MJ would take Curry out of the game just like Delladova did.

On offense, MJ would shoot 59% against the 1-on-1 clearouts before Kerr picks his poison and starts doubling him.

And then, like clockwork, MJ's fully-expected double-teams spring his teammates - this is the entire reason MJ's teammates are lauded - coaches are forced to choose between letting MJ shoot like a big man against single coverage, or double-team and spring MJ's "stacked" supporting cast.

MJ was a SG and guarded PG's routinely, like Travis Best and Mugsy Bogues.. He set the record with 9 All-Defense 1st Team selections... 1988 DPOY... Was the only player ever with 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season (he did it twice).


MJ GUARDING ISIAH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9MfhFFE7fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQZnESjOkyA


MJ GUARDING PAYTON:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meL62CUehuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFiqeJcgXfg


MJ GUARDING PENNY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F3Q3qP_jP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdcxo7dHZhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjE7g1btBAY


MJ GUARDING STOCKTON:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOuMwmXtgd0
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No way for MJ to stop curry's quick release shooting but definitely will put pressure on his shooting. Curry will have a difficult time to drive pass MJ, probably he can't blow by MJ off his dribble.

FreezingTsmoove
06-19-2015, 08:56 AM
What do you have going on there? A bit of netscape and windows 97?

Who tf spends thousands of cash on a desktop?

**** going online that aint part of my day - Drake

SHAQisGOAT
06-19-2015, 09:58 AM
Jordan's a top5 all-to,e defensive guard, overall but great on-ball too while a freak athlete and could easily guard PG's, extremely tough mentally as well... Would've given Curry LOTS of trouble, there's no question about it.

He would be way more needed for offense though, can't have him running around Steph all series long, plus...


MJ is also a lot lighter and quicker and he knows how to destroy his opponents mentally. There's no way a 6-8 260 pound dude should be guarding a 6-3 160 pound guy anyways. Lebron was the biggest player on the floor for like half the series when the dubs ran small ball, what makes you think he's going to keep up with the smallest guy on the court lol.

^This

jzek
06-19-2015, 10:02 AM
Nah, Pippen would have for the same reason that it was Pippen who guarded Mark Jackson and not MJ.

riseagainst
06-19-2015, 10:29 AM
and he would have got torched, cried on the bench, and demanded Pippen to guard Curry for the remainder of the game.

IGOTGAME
06-19-2015, 10:30 AM
Pippen and MJ would have trapped him at center court occasionally but I doubt MJ would have guarded him, then what would they do, put John Paxson on Klay or Draymond? Steve Kerr on Barnes? BJ Armstrong on Bogut?

I think LeBron has a lot of issues, and is a bit of a puss, but enough is enough, he played heroically in the finals, brought a spoon to a knife fight and did as good as that team possibly could.

The matchups were the best for the Cavs, they absolutely took Klay out of the series which enabled them to stay in it.

imagine that Harper, Jordan, Pippen lineup though. anyone of those guys would be fine to switch wherever is needed.

Chalmers, Wade and Bron would cause havoc as well.

Genaro
06-19-2015, 10:36 AM
What do you have going on there? A bit of netscape and windows 97?
It was a joke, dude. My browse can deal with 3ball's gifs.

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-19-2015, 10:54 AM
I guess like this:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1475978/iverson-crossing-jordan-o.gif

kshutts1
06-19-2015, 11:07 AM
Jordan's a top5 all-to,e defensive guard, overall but great on-ball too while a freak athlete and could easily guard PG's, extremely tough mentally as well... Would've given Curry LOTS of trouble, there's no question about it.

He would be way more needed for offense though, can't have him running around Steph all series long, plus...


This.

HurricaneKid
06-19-2015, 11:08 AM
Its like you guys weren't watching the Finals. If MJ guards Curry, Draymond comes and sets a pick for him and voila! now Bill Wennington is on him. Can you imagine what Curry would do to Bill Wennington/Luc Longley, etc?

OldSchoolBBall
06-19-2015, 11:15 AM
Its like you guys weren't watching the Finals. If MJ guards Curry, Draymond comes and sets a pick for him and voila! now Bill Wennington is on him. Can you imagine what Curry would do to Bill Wennington/Luc Longley, etc?

Jordan is one of the best in history at fighting through and getting around picks.

SHAQisGOAT
06-19-2015, 11:49 AM
Its like you guys weren't watching the Finals. If MJ guards Curry, Draymond comes and sets a pick for him and voila! now Bill Wennington is on him. Can you imagine what Curry would do to Bill Wennington/Luc Longley, etc?

You just summed up how basketball works, right there :rolleyes:

1st of all Draymond wouldn't be playing center vs the Bulls... Who would check Grant then? Or, for the 2nd 3peat team, who would keep up with Rodman especially on them boards? Don't be foolish.
So for that p&r with Green, they would've had Grant/Rodman there.

Secondly, Jordan was great at going through picks, plus they would double on him and/or trap him, Horace or Dennis doing it, while the Bulls had Pippen there as well, to defend them other guys, play the lanes and such.

See what the Cavs were doing with Delly defending Steph, Mozgov or TT as the bigs, LeBron and Shump out there... Now imagine an extremely better "version" of that, with Jordan, Grant/Rodman, Pippen and Cartwright/Longley instead... Shit, how about Ron Harper.
:rolleyes: :lol

Anyways, I wasn't even typing that to "answer" the OP, already done that before... Just let us not underrated Jordan and those Bulls like that.

juju151111
06-19-2015, 12:13 PM
Jordan is one of the best in history at fighting through and getting around picks.
It really depends on which Mj we are talking about. 88-92 My got around screens a lot and still had the energy to drop 35-45 pts. He guarded someone quicker and faster then Curry Isiah Thomasand held him to a horrible FG% when guarded by him. 96-98 Mj is still good, but I wouldn't say he the best option to guarded Curry.

juju151111
06-19-2015, 12:14 PM
I guess like this:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1475978/iverson-crossing-jordan-o.gif
Everybody in the nba has gotten crossed before and Iverson is quicker and faster then Curry.

sekachu
06-19-2015, 12:17 PM
I guess like this:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1475978/iverson-crossing-jordan-o.gif



iverson crossover is much stronger than curry but once MJ adapted, he could stay in front you like the link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QAeRDbcsA

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-19-2015, 12:36 PM
Relax, it is a joke. MJ was always a good defender. But he also gets the "superhuman" stories too. A la Wilt. MJ was not perfect.

HurricaneKid
06-19-2015, 12:45 PM
You just summed up how basketball works, right there :rolleyes:

1st of all Draymond wouldn't be playing center vs the Bulls... Who would check Grant then? Or, for the 2nd 3peat team, who would keep up with Rodman especially on them boards? Don't be foolish.
So for that p&r with Green, they would've had Grant/Rodman there.

Secondly, Jordan was great at going through picks, plus they would double on him and/or trap him, Horace or Dennis doing it, while the Bulls had Pippen there as well, to defend them other guys, play the lanes and such.

See what the Cavs were doing with Delly defending Steph, Mozgov or TT as the bigs, LeBron and Shump out there... Now imagine an extremely better "version" of that, with Jordan, Grant/Rodman, Pippen and Cartwright/Longley instead... Shit, how about Ron Harper.
:rolleyes: :lol

Anyways, I wasn't even typing that to "answer" the OP, already done that before... Just let us not underrated Jordan and those Bulls like that.


:rolleyes: right back atcha.

First off, Green/Barnes ABSOLUTELY could guard Ho/Longley for stretches. Ho was a 4 and got most of his points in mid range. He couldn't post well enough to cause serious problems. No one on any of those Bulls teams could. Barnes open in the corner is a far better shot than Ho posting him. Which means Golden State could go small. Furthermore, if MJ goes on Curry, that leaves Kerr on Klay who uses his size very well.

Given Kukoc/Harper/Rodman your argument should be that the Bulls would be better equipped to go small. That would have been fun to watch.

I wasn't even suggesting that MJ couldn't guard Curry. Or that the Bulls couldn't beat GSW. The point was that at no point does GSW attack a defense without forcing them to make adjustments, switch PnRs, etc. Curry's shooting makes GSWs PnRs far more dangerous than most. And CERTAINLY no one in the league at that time had his combination of shooting and ballhandling.

SwayDizzle
06-19-2015, 12:54 PM
Jordan would destroy the whole team mentally. Anyone that has ever competed on a high level knows its about taking others out of their game. MJ was such an asshole on the court, people didn't even dare look him in the eye. Nobody wanted to give MJ that extra motivation. If MJ decided he was going to lock you down, it was over.

sdot_thadon
06-19-2015, 01:24 PM
Depends on which version of Mj we're talking. 2nd 3peat mj was not a fan of chasing guys around picks iirc. That's scottie' job lol.

24-Inch_Chrome
06-19-2015, 01:28 PM
Chef Curry bout to fry MJ offensively.

:lebronamazed:

rekt