View Full Version : cavs with love and irving healty who wins now
dick tracy
06-19-2015, 11:20 PM
cavs in 5:coleman:
MellowYellow
06-19-2015, 11:21 PM
They would certainly be better offensively, but much worse defensively. Ultimately about the same result.
dick tracy
06-19-2015, 11:25 PM
[QUOTE=MellowYellow]They would certainly be better offensively, but much worse defensively. Ultimately about the same result.[/QUOTthey could out score theses clowns in six gmaes
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 06:47 PM
They were up 2-1 without both of them. Easily a 4-1 win for the Cavs if healthy.
They wouldn't have to rely on Shumpert's 25% FG or J.R. Smith's streak 30% FG (somewhere around there)
nba_55
06-23-2015, 06:48 PM
Cavs win 4-2
bluechox2
06-23-2015, 07:22 PM
somehow the defense of tristen n delly gets forgotten... throwing them on the bench with lesser minutes dont mean cavs win easily
imdaman99
06-23-2015, 07:35 PM
They were up 2-1 without both of them. Easily a 4-1 win for the Cavs if healthy.
They wouldn't have to rely on Shumpert's 25% FG or J.R. Smith's streak 30% FG (somewhere around there)
Shumpert played defense, which was the game plan. Who on the Cavs would play defense if it wasn't for Shump and Delly? Lebron? :roll:
He was too busy yelling at TT for switching which made Lebron try to play defense. Given not earned.
Also, JR was pivotal in beating the Bulls.
Meticode
06-23-2015, 07:35 PM
I think the Cavaliers win in 7 games. They were 2 inches short on a Iman Shumpert desperation shot from going up 3-0 in the series.
imdaman99
06-23-2015, 07:38 PM
I think the Cavaliers win in 7 games. They were 2 inches short on a Iman Shumpert desperation shot from going up 3-0 in the series.
It doesn't work that way. I'm pretty sure the Warriors would have blown the doors off the Cavs in game 2 had they lost game 1. Cavs would have won game 3 and history would have gone the same way.
I got the Warriors still winning in 6. Love and Irving are weak defenders and it would have allowed the Warriors to get going on offense more. The Cavs uglied up the game and played great defense to go up 2-1. And then the Warriors made adjustments and wrecked them the rest of the way.
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 07:39 PM
Shumpert played defense, which was the game plan. Who on the Cavs would play defense if it wasn't for Shump and Delly? Lebron? :roll:
He was too busy yelling at TT for switching which made Lebron try to play defense. Given not earned.
Also, JR was pivotal in beating the Bulls.
I get that they'd lose some in the defensive department, but...Um...They'd GAIN a hell of a lot more in the offensive department. LBJ wouldn't be forced to take 33 fga for the series and wouldn't have to play 46 mpg. It would be curtains for the Warriors.
Warriors would have to deal with a fresh Kyrie coming at them instead of 40 minute tired as hell Delly driving to the rim and hoping someone will catch his weird lobs that just get thrown up whether someone is there or not.
Warriors would have to deal with Kevin Love scoring instead of streaky ass Shumpert and JR Smith. I get that the Cavs would lose some of the defensive end, but they'd gain majorly on the offensive end. Warriors wouldn't be able to handle it.
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 07:42 PM
It doesn't work that way. I'm pretty sure the Warriors would have blown the doors off the Cavs in game 2 had they lost game 1. Cavs would have won game 3 and history would have gone the same way.
I got the Warriors still winning in 6. Love and Irving are weak defenders and it would have allowed the Warriors to get going on offense more. The Cavs uglied up the game and played great defense to go up 2-1. And then the Warriors made adjustments and wrecked them the rest of the way.
You have to realize how much better/efficient LBJ would be playing with the help of Kyrie and Love. We would get to see a much more energized LeBron, one that the Warriors would be in major trouble against. The Warriors would be forced to keep their starters out on the court for longer and not be able to rely on their bench to save their starters minutes to rest. Warriors had the luxury of resting their starters because let's be honest, the Cavs have a horrible offensive team sans LeBron. Horrific, in fact.
branslowski
06-23-2015, 07:42 PM
Wow ppl forget defense and rebounding on this site, holysh!t. I'd take TT over Love in the PLAYOFFS anyday.
nba_55
06-23-2015, 08:11 PM
Wow ppl forget defense and rebounding on this site, holysh!t. I'd take TT over Love in the PLAYOFFS anyday.
Love is a great rebounder and guess what? Thompson can with play, they don't lose him if Love plays, they used to close out games together.
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nba_55
06-23-2015, 08:12 PM
somehow the defense of tristen n delly gets forgotten... throwing them on the bench with lesser minutes dont mean cavs win easily
I remember Delly being useless and basically benched the last 2 games.
nba_55
06-23-2015, 08:13 PM
They would certainly be better offensively, but much worse defensively. Ultimately about the same result.
Wrong, their defensive numbers were always good after the trades.
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