View Full Version : 2/7 will end the Kobe vs Lebron debate
JohnMax
06-20-2015, 01:04 AM
They'll both have same number of Finals appearances which is enough to declare a winner.
Mr. Jabbar
06-20-2015, 01:08 AM
do ppl seriously need further proof of this loser never being an all time great? thought shit was clear after the decision...
HOoopCityJones
06-20-2015, 01:09 AM
2/6 is already going too ham.
G0ATbe
06-20-2015, 01:10 AM
Debate?
Foster5k
06-20-2015, 01:16 AM
Black Mambas eat Iggys for breakfast.
LeBetas turn Iggys into Finals MVPs.
jstern
06-20-2015, 02:53 AM
If Lebron wins the Finals MVP and championship next year, he'll be 3/7 to Kobe's 2/7. So that should end the debate to those who are still on the fence. But I'm curious how it would be perceive if he loses the following year, despite having more championships as the man.
tpols
06-20-2015, 03:06 AM
If Lebron wins the Finals MVP and championship next year, he'll be 3/7 to Kobe's 2/7. So that should end the debate to those who are still on the fence. But I'm curious how it would be perceive if he loses the following year, despite having more championships as the man.
I mean..it's a high possibility kyrie steals a fmvp if the cavs win. Hes high ppg + clutch worth remembering shots.. if he gets a second option ring kyrie might as well be prime shaq
TheCorporation
06-20-2015, 03:11 AM
What debate?
Kobe is 2/7 in Finals MVPS and appearances
Bron is 2/6
What were you saying?
SyRyanYang
06-20-2015, 04:13 AM
What debate?
Kobe is 2/7 in Finals MVPS and appearances
Bron is 2/6
What were you saying?
Iguodala is 1/1 better than both?
What debate?
Kobe is 2/7 in Finals MVPS and appearances
Bron is 2/6
What were you saying?
Finals MVP is irrelevant. Even your boy LeBron said so. When James was asked how he'd feel if he won MVP of the Finals even if the Cavs were to fall to the Warriors, this is what he said. "At the end of the day, I'm here to win a team prize, not an individual prize." You see? Players play to win the game, not collect individual awards.
Quickening
06-20-2015, 04:29 AM
Finals MVP is irrelevant. Even your boy LeBron said so. When James was asked how he'd feel if he won MVP of the Finals even if the Cavs were to fall to the Warriors, this is what he said. "At the end of the day, I'm here to win a team prize, not an individual prize." You see? Players play to win the game, not collect individual awards.
Cool story... So Kobe was the best player on 2/5 o his championships. Lebron 2/2 :cheers:
Jacks3
06-20-2015, 04:30 AM
It's only a debate for Kobe stans. Everybody else knows LeBron is superior.
warriorfan
06-20-2015, 04:31 AM
not one not two not three not four not five not six...
Quickening
06-20-2015, 04:35 AM
not one not two not three not four not five not six...
Curry has zero FMVPs? Did I win prize? :roll: :lol
Cool story... So Kobe was the best player on 2/5 o his championships. Lebron 2/2 :cheers:
Wha about 2001?
Shaquille O'Neal May 19, 2001:
Quote:
I told Kobe he was my idol. I'm serious. He's playing phenomenal basketball. He's the best player in the league, by far.
Quote:
He's been getting his points, getting everybody involved, drawing and kicking, doing the right things. Somebody once said the mark of a great player is how you make the other players around you play. I now can truly say that Kobe Bryant is the best player in this league.
http://www.nba.com/playoffs2001/fina...av=ArticleList
June 4th 2001 ESPN.com:
Quote:
Or in Bryant's case, coming down in the land of maturity. In five short weeks, he's all grown up, even if he still hasn't celebrated his 23rd birthday. His development into the best all-around player in the game today is the primary reason the Lakers have made their own leap, from an underachieving regular-season team to a playoff juggernaut with 15-0 in its crosshairs.
warriorfan
06-20-2015, 04:40 AM
Curry has zero FMVPs? Did I win prize? :roll: :lol
How many rings does LeBabyDick have with out any future Hall of Fame teammates?
Soundwave
06-20-2015, 06:48 AM
Kobe stans really going HAM on LeBron stans these days. Almost feel sorry for Bran stans, lol.
Finals MVP is irrelevant. Even your boy LeBron said so. When James was asked how he'd feel if he won MVP of the Finals even if the Cavs were to fall to the Warriors, this is what he said. "At the end of the day, I'm here to win a team prize, not an individual prize." You see? Players play to win the game, not collect individual awards.
finals mvp irrelevant. :lol
Sure, now hand Lebron or Jordan prime Shaq their first 7 years and see how many more rings they'd have now. :roll: :roll:
HOoopCityJones
06-20-2015, 11:14 AM
Until I see someone discredit Kareem, Bird or Magic's rings where they weren't FMVP, Kobe's threepeat rings still reign supreme over Lebron's.
As the man my ass, ni99a hasn't even won without Top 15 player all time Dwade yet. Kobe won two without Shaq, three straight Finals.
How many rings does LeBabyDick have with out any future Hall of Fame teammates?
Bran has 0. Curry has one. :applause:
SouBeachTalents
06-20-2015, 11:41 AM
Until I see someone discredit Kareem, Bird or Magic's rings where they weren't FMVP, Kobe's threepeat rings still reign supreme over Lebron's.
As the man my ass, ni99a hasn't even won without Top 15 player all time Dwade yet. Kobe won two without Shaq, three straight Finals.
Brah, we both know Wade ain't ranked that high
HOoopCityJones
06-20-2015, 11:52 AM
Brah, we both know Wade ain't ranked that high
:roll:
TheBigVeto
06-22-2015, 03:05 AM
As the man my ass, ni99a hasn't even won without Top 15 player all time Dwade yet.
WTF? Wade a top 15 player? What's next, Jeremy Lin GOAT PG? Delly top 20 all time GOAT?
Straight_Ballin
06-22-2015, 04:10 AM
What debate?
Kobe is 2/7 in Finals MVPS and appearances
Bron is 2/6
What were you saying?
Kobe has proven 2 times that he can win without Shaq.
Bron has proven 4 times that he can't win without Wade.
You lost bro... it's over.
Sure... if Pippen 6/6 ends the Kobe 5/7 debate and Havlicek 8/8 ends the Jordan 6/6 debate and even the GOAT debate...
Droid101
06-23-2015, 04:40 PM
People trying to act like FMVP means a damn thing after the last two winners? :lol
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 04:40 PM
LeBron 2/6 (2 Finals MVPs in 6 appearances)
Kobe 2/7 (2 Finals MVPs in 7 appearances)
LBJ isn't 2/7 like Kobe yet. And if LBJ does make it to the Finals next year with a healthy roster then he will be 3/7 to Kobe's 2/7
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 04:41 PM
Kobe has proven 2 times that he can win without Shaq.
Bron has proven 4 times that he can't win without Wade.
You lost bro... it's over.
2/6 > 2/7
Stay in school
ArbitraryWater
06-23-2015, 04:48 PM
It's only a debate for Kobe stans. Everybody else knows LeBron is superior.
this is coming from a Kobe fan :bowdown:
Vertical-24
06-23-2015, 05:44 PM
WTF? Wade a top 15 player? What's next, Jeremy Lin GOAT PG? Delly top 20 all time GOAT?
The fact that you would even try to place Wade at the level of Lin or the Australian to prove a moot point, shows a limited and biased knowledge of the game on your part. Dwade might not be TOP 15 but he's definitely in consideration for Top 20 and is fairly easily a Top 4 SG All Time. I'd say he's the third behind Bryant. Long story short, LeBron hasn't won without high calibur teammates (its a ****ing team game so it really doesnt matter).
I have LeBron right below Kobe and Duncan and I can't see him passing either of them until he wins 2 more chips. LeBron has been the best player in the league for years now, and might be the "best" all around player we've ever seen. But "best" and "greatest" are not entirely the same thing, so there are variables other then raw skill or stats that go into GOAT rankings.
Regardless, Bron will end his career as a Top 10 player with Top 5 potential if he wins more. This is indisputable.
24-Inch_Chrome
06-23-2015, 05:56 PM
Duncan > Kobe/LeBron.
3 FMVP > 2 FMVP.
5/6 > 2/6 or 5/7.
Playing with the fat piece of shit cancer known as Tony Parker and carrying him to 4 rings. How great is our god?
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 05:59 PM
Duncan > Kobe/LeBron.
3 FMVP > 2 FMVP.
5/6 > 2/6 or 5/7.
Playing with the fat piece of shit cancer known as Tony Parker and carrying him to 4 rings. How great is our god?
:lol
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 06:04 PM
Long story short, LeBron hasn't won without high calibur teammates
Replace "LeBron" with every single NBA player. Ever.
No one wins alone without high calibur teammates.
Optimus Prime
06-23-2015, 06:07 PM
The debate was ended after 2/5. 2/6 was the nail in the coffin.
:kobe:
TheCorporation
06-23-2015, 06:19 PM
The debate was ended after 2/5. 2/6 was the nail in the coffin.
:kobe:
LeBron's 2 Finals MVPs in 5 appearances was the "nail in the coffin" for Kobe and his 2 for 7? I don't know because what if LeBron went 2 for 8, then Kobe's 2/7 > LBJ's 2/8 We will have to see if LBJ can get a third Finals MVP in the next 2 Finals appearances (If he makes it back two more times).
Hoopz2332
08-09-2016, 09:31 PM
:whatever:
scuzzy
08-09-2016, 09:36 PM
hah! Out of the first 10 posters on the frontpage, 7 of them havn't been seen since gm 7
and these were ppl who posted daily :lol
Dray n Klay
08-09-2016, 09:37 PM
I mean..it's a high possibility kyrie steals a fmvp if the cavs win. Hes high ppg + clutch worth remembering shots.. if he gets a second option ring kyrie might as well be prime shaq
Damn, even tpols backup plan failed
No wonder the dude mentally lost it since the Finals :lol
His hopes crushed :banana:
Hoopz2332
08-09-2016, 09:45 PM
hah! Out of the first 10 posters on the frontpage, 7 of them havn't been seen since gm 7
and these were ppl who posted daily :lol
:lol
Hey Yo
08-09-2016, 09:54 PM
People trying to act like FMVP means a damn thing after the last two winners? :lol
Droid hasn't been seen in quite some time?
I think James getting 4 FMVP votes in a losing cause shook him pretty hard.
LilEddyCurry
08-09-2016, 11:08 PM
3/7 > 2/7 FMPVs
Kenomax
08-10-2016, 09:17 AM
hah! Out of the first 10 posters on the frontpage, 7 of them havn't been seen since gm 7
and these were ppl who posted daily :lol
:oldlol:
It's good, we don't want to see idiots and trolls here.
:dancin :djparty :hammertime: :hammertime:
kamil
08-10-2016, 09:22 AM
3/7 aint much better.
AirBonner
08-10-2016, 10:31 AM
3/7 aint much better.
Yeah because having LeBron's resume is so common. :rolleyes:
kamil
08-10-2016, 11:07 AM
Yeah because having LeBron's resume is so common. :rolleyes:
It isn't but it's also not the greatest. Deal with it.
aj1987
08-10-2016, 11:11 AM
It isn't but it's also not the greatest. Deal with it.
Definitely, but better than Kobe's. Only 2-4 other players in the history of the sport have an argument for having the better resume.
kamil
08-10-2016, 11:25 AM
Definitely, but better than Kobe's. Only 2-4 other players in the history of the sport have an argument for having the better resume.
So that makes LeBron* anywhere from 3rd to 6th greatest of all time?
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