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JohnMax
06-22-2015, 03:59 AM
I have heard many LeBron stans say Golden State would beat Cleveland much easier if Lebron and Curry switched sides.

Problem with that theory is LeBron has not shown the ability to win without two Allstars, play in a complex offense or beat Western conference teams to get the Finals.

SouBeachTalents
06-22-2015, 04:04 AM
OP has made no less than a dozen straight threads about LeBron

We need J Shuttlesworth to make his LeBron compilation for TMZ like he does for the other posters who can't stop making threads about him

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 04:14 AM
I have heard many LeBron stans say Golden State would beat Cleveland much easier if Lebron and Curry switched sides.

Problem with that theory is LeBron has not shown the ability to win without two Allstars, play in a complex offense or beat Western conference teams to get the Finals.

Yes, this was established during the Finals.

Livingston
Thompson
James
Green
Bogut


This would be an awful line up. LeBron needs knock down 3 point shooters to space the floor and spot up, that is mandatory for LeBron ball. Imagine LeBron kicking out 3 point shots to Livingston and Draymond Green. Worn down Bogut and little man Green won't be there to scoop up offensive boards like big Moz and TT to hide LBJ's sub 40% FG percentage. They would struggle to score 85 points a game.

Straight_Ballin
06-22-2015, 04:15 AM
Born can't win without wade and even then he's only 2/6. nikka knocked himself out of the top 10 shooting 33% in the finals this year and losing it for his team.

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 04:19 AM
Born can't win without wade and even then he's only 2/6. nikka knocked himself out of the top 10 shooting 33% in the finals this year and losing it for his team.

Dude can't even win with Wade and peeps trying to act like he would with Klay Thompson...:lol

sundizz
06-22-2015, 04:23 AM
It really is an interesting question though.

I think a lineup of Curry, Iman, Jones, TT, and Moz could do some serious work. Livingston, Klay, Bron, Green and Bogut. A Curry pick and roll with TT or Moz would be pretty monsterous because of his high shooting percentage and their incredibly high offensive rebounding rate. On the other side of the ball it'd be interesting to see how they would play. None of those guys was a real offensive weapon until this year when Kerr put in a much better offense. Would they revert to Lebron ball and have people saying he doesn't have mich "help"?

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 04:26 AM
It really is an interesting question though.

I think a lineup of Curry, Iman, Jones, TT, and Moz could do some serious work. Livingston, Klay, Bron, Green and Bogut. A Curry pick and roll with TT or Moz would be pretty monsterous because of his high shooting percentage and their incredibly high offensive rebounding rate. On the other side of the ball it'd be interesting to see how they would play. None of those guys was a real offensive weapon until this year when Kerr put in a much better offense. Would they revert to Lebron ball and have people saying he doesn't have mich "help"?

Surround Curry with defensive oriented 10 ppg scorers and people talk about Greatest Team of All Time

Surround LeBron with defensive oriented 10 ppg scorers and it's "his team's fault that they suck, he needs more help."

:roll:

Spurs5Rings2014
06-22-2015, 04:33 AM
It really is an interesting question though.

I think a lineup of Curry, Iman, Jones, TT, and Moz could do some serious work. Livingston, Klay, Bron, Green and Bogut. A Curry pick and roll with TT or Moz would be pretty monsterous because of his high shooting percentage and their incredibly high offensive rebounding rate. On the other side of the ball it'd be interesting to see how they would play. None of those guys was a real offensive weapon until this year when Kerr put in a much better offense. Would they revert to Lebron ball and have people saying he doesn't have mich "help"?

This is my thinking as well. Curry on the Cavs would be far better than LeBron on the Warriors. A knockdown 3-point shooting, offensive scoring machine with GOAT level (off.) rebounders and defensive squad? Bron on the Warriors wouldn't work because Bron isn't a very good shooter. You can just single-cover him all series and none of the shooters will get open shots. We all saw what happened the first 3 games when the Cavs dared the rest of the Warriors to beat them. Those guys looked like hot ass without Curry getting them easy baskets.

aj1987
06-22-2015, 07:17 AM
This is my thinking as well. Curry on the Cavs would be far better than LeBron on the Warriors. A knockdown 3-point shooting, offensive scoring machine with GOAT level (off.) rebounders and defensive squad? Bron on the Warriors wouldn't work because Bron isn't a very good shooter. You can just single-cover him all series and none of the shooters will get open shots. We all saw what happened the first 3 games when the Cavs dared the rest of the Warriors to beat them. Those guys looked like hot ass without Curry getting them easy baskets.
LeBron was getting single coverage because his passing was killing the Warriors. Watch the games before you actually comment on them. Curry on the Cav's would be horrendous. Outside LeBron, the Cav's shot a combined 28% from the 3 and 37% overall.

People are being straight delusional. LeBron on that Warriors team in Curry's place would've probably swept the PO's. He took the 67 win Warriors and the champs to 6 games without 3 starters.

iamgine
06-22-2015, 07:20 AM
I have heard many LeBron stans say Golden State would beat Cleveland much easier if Lebron and Curry switched sides.

Problem with that theory is LeBron has not shown the ability to win without two Allstars, play in a complex offense or beat Western conference teams to get the Finals.
That is due to Cleveland getting much weaker. As much as Lebron don't fit in GSW, Curry on Cavs finals team would be downright laughable.

sd3035
06-22-2015, 08:38 AM
Cavs would have swept the Warriors had they switched teams

Blue&Orange
06-22-2015, 09:32 AM
LeBron was getting single coverage because his passing was killing the Warriors. Watch the games before you actually comment on them. Curry on the Cav's would be horrendous. Outside LeBron, the Cav's shot a combined 28% from the 3 and 37% overall.

People are being straight delusional.

This shit is hilarious. team shooting 28% = killing with his passing! :lol


Here you have idiot, some non fictional literature
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=379689&page=2

aj1987
06-22-2015, 09:43 AM
This shit is hilarious. team shooting 28% = killing with his passing! :lol


Here you have idiot, some non fictional literature
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=379689&page=2
Watch the games. How many times do I have to tell people that?

LeBron scored or assisted on near 70% of the Cavs' total points. Again, watch the games instead of boxscore watching, dumb ****. Try to figure out what the Cavs were doing when he wasn't in the game. Look at what the team was doing when LeBron wasn't running the offense, retard.

STATUTORY
06-22-2015, 09:54 AM
Watch the games. How many times do I have to tell people that?

LeBron scored or assisted on near 70% of the Cavs' total points. Again, watch the games instead of boxscore watching, dumb ****. Try to figure out what the Cavs were doing when he wasn't in the game. Look at what the team was doing when LeBron wasn't running the offense, retard.

that's not impressive when you hold the ball 23 seconds out of every shot clock

:facepalm take a stat class if you gonna incorporate numbers into your posts

aj1987
06-22-2015, 09:56 AM
that's not impressive when you hold the ball 23 seconds out of every shot clock

:facepalm take a stat class if you gonna incorporate numbers into your posts
Watch the games, you pea brained Kobe turd. You want Delly, who can't dribble, to make plays? Iman? JR?

:oldlol: @23 seconds. That's like saying Kobe takes 90% of his team's shots.

Trollsmasher
06-22-2015, 10:02 AM
The Warriors would just trap Curry the same way Cleveland this. The difference is that Cleveland has no other playmakers outside of him, unlike GSW.

Blue&Orange
06-22-2015, 12:42 PM
Watch the games. How many times do I have to tell people that?

LeBron scored or assisted on near 70% of the Cavs' total points. Again, watch the games instead of boxscore watching, dumb ****. Try to figure out what the Cavs were doing when he wasn't in the game. Look at what the team was doing when LeBron wasn't running the offense, retard.
Watch the game says a boxscore wh0re, dude says Lebron was killing with his passing and then says watch the game :lol
This retard is pulling up stats from one game and trying to pass it as for the entire series and is talking about boxscores. If a team take 100fga and 90fga were taken or "assisted" by one player that hogs the ball, and the team makes 40 of those 100fga, how is said player having hand on 70% of those 40 shots a incredible feat? If i bought all the lottery tickers would i be lucky if i won it :roll:


Making a pass to someone camping behind the 3 point line that any D-league player can make it's not create a shot off a pass. Holding the ball top of the key then pass the ball to JR that take a dribble and drain a contested 3 is not create a shot off a pass. JR hot in first half LEbron 9 assists, JR cold second half Lebron 2 assists.. there you have it, in a a nutshell the "amazing" playmaking ability of King James.
Eye test dipshit eye test.

If Lebron teammates score, it's because of Lebron playmaking.
If Lebron teammates can't score, what can lebron do? :roll:


Cavs did worse without Lebron? Well if Cavs best playmaker was Raymond Felton, i'm pretty sure when Felton were on the bench, cavs would also do worse. Teams do worse without playmakers? Shocking!

If retards like you followed you advice and actually watched the games, they would realize dude is a pos statpadder.


I think you need some psychiatry help with your meltdown

aj1987
06-22-2015, 02:38 PM
Watch the game says a boxscore wh0re, dude says Lebron was killing with his passing and then says watch the game :lol
This retard is pulling up stats from one game and trying to pass it as for the entire series and is talking about boxscores. If a team take 100fga and 90fga were taken or "assisted" by one player that hogs the ball, and the team makes 40 of those 100fga, how is said player having hand on 70% of those 40 shots a incredible feat? If i bought all the lottery tickers would i be lucky if i won it :roll:


Eye test dipshit eye test.

If Lebron teammates score, it's because of Lebron playmaking.
If Lebron teammates can't score, what can lebron do? :roll:


Cavs did worse without Lebron? Well if Cavs best playmaker was Raymond Felton, i'm pretty sure when Felton were on the bench, cavs would also do worse. Teams do worse without playmakers? Shocking!

If retards like you followed you advice and actually watched the games, they would realize dude is a pos statpadder.


I think you need some psychiatry help with your meltdown
Congrats. Your post is 70% insults and 30% irrelevant BS analogy.

Didn't expect anything more from a Knicks fan though. Probably the dumbest fan base in the world.

1. LeBron was controlling the offense.
2. There was literally no one else on the Cavs who could make plays for others.
3. JR and Shump suck ass at creating their own shots and it you leave it to JR to create his own shot, it's going to be a 18ft fadeaway or a fadeaway 3.
4. LeBron had to slow down the pace of the game, otherwise they would've gotten blown out in a sweep, since the Cavs don't have the offense to keep up with the Warriors.
5. LeBron's 2nd and 3rd option were out and he had to carry their offensive load as well.
6. The Cavs' shooters sucked ass.
7. LeBron played all but 15 minutes in the series, IIRC. The Cavs didn't make a SINGLE FG in that period. They were 0-21.

Most of my post is about how the Cavs' offense struggles without LeBron and how he slowed down the pace, etc.. Your tiny little brain might not be able to comprehend that. Dumb ****.

EDIT: Just went through your post history. You're still mad that LeBron didn't sign with your garbage ass franchise in '10? Get over it, kid. Its been 5 years!

scandisk_
06-22-2015, 02:45 PM
Congrats. Your post is 70% insults and 30% irrelevant BS analogy.

Didn't expect anything more from a Knicks fan though. Probably the dumbest fan base in the world.

1. LeBron was hogging the ball bigtime
2. There was literally no one else on the Cavs who could make plays for others.
3. JR and Shump suck ass at creating their own shots and it you leave it to JR to create his own shot, it's going to be a 18ft fadeaway or a fadeaway 3.
4. LeBron had to slow down the pace of the game, otherwise they would've gotten blown out in a sweep, since the Cavs don't have the offense to keep up with the Warriors.
5. LeBron's 2nd and 3rd option were out and he had to carry their offensive load as well.
6. The Cavs' shooters sucked ass.
7. LeBron played all but 15 minutes in the series, IIRC. The Cavs didn't make a SINGLE FG in that period. They were 0-21.



not hatin just statin a fact.

aj1987
06-22-2015, 02:49 PM
not hatin just statin a fact.
If Irving was not injured and LeBron did the same shit, I'd agree with you. I'd rather see LeBron handle the ball for the entirety of the time he's on the floor, than JR, Delly, and Shump.

hawke812
06-22-2015, 02:54 PM
LeBron was getting single coverage because his passing was killing the Warriors. Watch the games before you actually comment on them. Curry on the Cav's would be horrendous. Outside LeBron, the Cav's shot a combined 28% from the 3 and 37% overall.

People are being straight delusional. LeBron on that Warriors team in Curry's place would've probably swept the PO's. He took the 67 win Warriors and the champs to 6 games without 3 starters.

Yes, his passing all right:roll:

aj1987
06-22-2015, 02:56 PM
Yes, his passing all right:roll:
Wow. This thread is literally exposing all the boxscore watchers. :oldlol:

scandisk_
06-22-2015, 02:58 PM
If Irving was not injured and LeBron did the same shit, I'd agree with you. I'd rather see LeBron handle the ball for the entirety of the time he's on the floor, than JR, Delly, and Shump.

I don't mid him controlling the offense like ALL THE TIME (no arguments there) even if Kyrie's present. It's holding the ball for 20 secs and passing to a team mate on the other side of the floor that irked me. It's like Bron lost his gift and went on full barrage. There were times when t'was awful to watch. But yeah it's the effort that counts so I guess it's a wash.

hawke812
06-22-2015, 02:59 PM
Wow. This thread is literally exposing all the boxscore watchers. :oldlol:

Boxscore watchers really? I witnessed LBJ back down Iggy/others 1 on 1 and brick shots more than I saw him pass. He did not kill the warriors by passing. Sorry, you lose this one:lol

UK2K
06-22-2015, 03:01 PM
Surround Curry with defensive oriented 10 ppg scorers and people talk about Greatest Team of All Time

Surround LeBron with defensive oriented 10 ppg scorers and it's "his team's fault that they suck, he needs more help."

:roll:

No.

aj1987
06-22-2015, 03:12 PM
I don't mid him controlling the offense like ALL THE TIME (no arguments there) even if Kyrie's present. It's holding the ball for 20 secs and passing to a team mate on the other side of the floor that irked me. It's like Bron lost his gift and went on full barrage. There were times when t'was awful to watch. But yeah it's the effort that counts so I guess it's a wash.
He was trying to slow down the pace. As I said before, you can't expect the Cavs to run with the Warriors and win. Whatever though. The Cavs sucked ass and lost.

Oh, and I'm not trying to say that LeBron played great. He didn't. He had a very good series and doesn't deserve a lot of blame for losing with the cast he had, but he didn't have an ATG series like some people are saying that he did.


Boxscore watchers really? I witnessed LBJ back down Iggy/others 1 on 1 and brick shots more than I saw him pass. He did not kill the warriors by passing. Sorry, you lose this one:lol
Reading comprehension.... :facepalm

Try watching the plays where he got doubled. It a pass to a wide open teammate 90% of the time or a LeBron brick.