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ThatCoolKid
06-22-2015, 12:53 PM
Lol wtf? I'm looking through the boxscores now. Smh :facepalm

funnystuff
06-22-2015, 12:54 PM
0/11 :applause:

24-Inch_Chrome
06-22-2015, 12:55 PM
You're looking through just the box scores? There's your first problem.

Harison
06-22-2015, 12:56 PM
Its BS media award, Curry got screwed.

Heavincent
06-22-2015, 12:58 PM
Box score watchers :facepalm

ThatCoolKid
06-22-2015, 12:59 PM
Iggy:
16.3 points, 5.8 rebounds and 4.0 assists.

lol

Myth
06-22-2015, 01:02 PM
Its BS media award, Curry got screwed.

This. He won it because it was a better story. They wanted to give it to him for his intangibles on D, but for every intangible Iggy brought on D, Curry brought on O.

Jacks3
06-22-2015, 01:05 PM
Its BS media award, Curry got screwed.

how? iggy was much more efficient (59% TS/117 ORTG to Curry's 59% TS/104 ORTG), was astronomically better defensively, and his +/- numbers were far better. the warriors completely dominated the series after he was inserted into the starting lineup. dude held lebron to 38% shooting when he was on him, and almost of it was with single-coverage.

FKAri
06-22-2015, 01:05 PM
Want to know what's even more hilarious?

Only 2 players received FMVP votes













































































Iggy and Lebron

Jacks3
06-22-2015, 01:07 PM
When Iguodala was in, LeBron shot 38% and the Cavs were -55. When he sat, LeBron shot 44% and the Cavs were +30

https://twitter.com/SherwoodStrauss/status/611027642909855744

Heavincent
06-22-2015, 01:07 PM
Make no mistake, Iguodala SHUT DOWN Lebron.

Harison
06-22-2015, 01:12 PM
This. He won it because it was a better story. They wanted to give it to him for his intangibles on D, but for every intangible Iggy brought on D, Curry brought on O.
Exactly, when Duncan and Garnett were anchoring their All-time great defenses in championship runs 07/08, their defensive (and total) impact was totally ignored for "better stories" of Parker and Pierce.

Therefore this FMVP has nothing to do Iggy's defense, which is nowhere near as good as KG's/Timmys anyway. Just media playing their BS games.

funnystuff
06-22-2015, 01:57 PM
Make no mistake, Iguodala SHUT DOWN Lebron.
I wouldn't call 35/13/9 shutting someone down, but he did ruin a lot of his production.

Heavincent
06-22-2015, 02:09 PM
I wouldn't call 35/13/9 shutting someone down, but he did ruin a lot of his production.

I would call holding someone to 35% shooting in single coverage shutting him down.

funnystuff
06-22-2015, 02:10 PM
I would call holding someone to 35% shooting in single coverage shutting him down.
Nope, there is a lot more to the game of basketball than scoring.

KiiiiNG
06-22-2015, 02:10 PM
curry's sole purpose out there is to shoot the ball well and for over half the series he shot like kobe in 2004 finals.

sorry, but, ya know, that's not gonna cut it. especially when you can't really do much else. its not like hes a leader or anything either.... which is why iggy stepped up in that role and stole the fmvp.

curry's one dimensional game was really exposed in the finals. its really a major fluke he got the mvp award and an even bigger fluke golden state won the championship this year.

not taking anything away from them, they won a ton of games. but they don't really feel like worthy champs to me. this season overall was a major, MAJOR letdown in terms of excitement.

i think not having KD or goatbrook in the playoffs this year really affected the product. those two guys are so ****ing talented and competitive it really makes for compelling basketball. and not having them around proved once and for all that they are the most exciting duo in the history of sports.

funnystuff
06-22-2015, 02:18 PM
Iggy was the leader, easily. Steph asterisked his way through backup PGs all playoffs.

Steph can't lead and its pretty evident of that.

Heavincent
06-22-2015, 02:20 PM
Iggy was the leader, easily. Steph asterisked his way through backup PGs all playoffs.

Steph can't lead and its pretty evident of that.

Yeah, being the first small PG in like 25 years to lead his team to a title is pretty good evidence.

KiiiiNG
06-22-2015, 02:22 PM
Yeah, being the first small PG in like 25 years to lead his team to a title is pretty good evidence.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/imgchauncey%20billups2.jpg

Droid101
06-22-2015, 02:32 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/imgchauncey%20billups2.jpg
Uh.... Curry is much smaller than Billups.

24-Inch_Chrome
06-22-2015, 02:34 PM
Uh.... Curry is much smaller than Billups.

They're the same height. Billups was 20 lbs heavier though.

KiiiiNG
06-22-2015, 02:36 PM
Uh.... Curry is much smaller than Billups.
so we're giving credit to curry for being a pencil necked weakling?

ok...

and he didnt lead them to shit. iggy was the clear leader for that team in the finals and rightfully won finals mvp. so the whole "lead to a championship" thing is thrown out the window.

Ne 1
06-22-2015, 02:52 PM
curry's sole purpose out there is to shoot the ball well and for over half the series he shot like kobe in 2004 finals.

sorry, but, ya know, that's not gonna cut it. especially when you can't really do much else. its not like hes a leader or anything either.... which is why iggy stepped up in that role and stole the fmvp.

curry's one dimensional game was really exposed in the finals. its really a major fluke he got the mvp award and an even bigger fluke golden state won the championship this year.

not taking anything away from them, they won a ton of games. but they don't really feel like worthy champs to me. this season overall was a major, MAJOR letdown in terms of excitement.

i think not having KD or goatbrook in the playoffs this year really affected the product. those two guys are so ****ing talented and competitive it really makes for compelling basketball. and not having them around proved once and for all that they are the most exciting duo in the history of sports.

For all the talk of LeBron supposedly making his teammates better, Curry makes his teammates better to a far greater extent. LeBron had a 40%+ usage rate with a 5 foot cushion with isolation, 1 on 1 coverage the entire series and he shot 39% from the field and 28% outside 5 feet because his jumper is broken. Not to mention 68% from the FT line. If you play a guy like Curry like that, he'll go off for nearly 50 a night. LeBron's offensive skill set is usually limited to bulldozing and streaky 3 point shooting. If neither one of those is happening then :lebroncry:

Curry was doubled HARD off the Pick and Roll to the point where Mozgov and Tristan T were at times like 35 feet away from the basket. This thoroughly broke down the Cavs D and created a far more efficient Warriors offense. There's a reason why Green, Iggy, Barnes and Klay etc. had wide open shots and driving lanes to the basket throughout the series.

But nobody seems to give Curry credit for creating the Warriors offense. He probably had more hockey assists than points. Delly actually defended Curry about as well you could fighting through screens and he still got torched outside of game 2. I'm honestly shocked he didn't even receive a single FMVP vote. (Further showing how useless the award is) They gave it to Iggy basically because he defended LeBron so well and the Warriors looked a lot better with him in the starting line up. But without Curry's scoring and running, the Warriors offense where he was creating open looks for Barnes, Iggy, and Green, the Warriors would've been dead. He became content that he would be double teamed and traped most of the nigh, so he spread that ball around well causing the Cavs to get out of defensive balance and the rest of his team thrived. When the game got a little close and Steph saw daylight he hit them up for two crucial threes followed by an assist for another three which effectively broke the Cavaliers back.

funnystuff
06-22-2015, 03:03 PM
Yeah, being the first small PG in like 25 years to lead his team to a title is pretty good evidence.
How can you lead a team to a title without winning the FMVP?

KiiiiNG
06-22-2015, 03:04 PM
For all the talk of LeBron supposedly making his teammates better, Curry makes his teammates better to a far greater extent. LeBron had a 40%+ usage rate with a 5 foot cushion with isolation, 1 on 1 coverage the entire series and he shot 39% from the field and 28% outside 5 feet because his jumper is broken. Not to mention 68% from the FT line. If you play a guy like Curry like that, he'll go off for nearly 50 a night. LeBron's offensive skill set is usually limited to bulldozing and streaky 3 point shooting. If neither one of those is happening then :lebroncry:

Curry was doubled HARD off the Pick and Roll to the point where Mozgov and Tristan T were at times like 35 feet away from the basket. This thoroughly broke down the Cavs D and created a far more efficient Warriors offense. There's a reason why Green, Iggy, Barnes and Klay etc. had wide open shots and driving lanes to the basket throughout the series.

But nobody seems to give Curry credit for creating the Warriors offense. He probably had more hockey assists than points. Delly actually defended Curry about as well you could fighting through screens and he still got torched outside of game 2. I'm honestly shocked he didn't even receive a single FMVP vote. (Further showing how useless the award is) They gave it to Iggy basically because he defended LeBron so well and the Warriors looked a lot better with him in the starting line up. But without Curry's scoring and running, the Warriors offense where he was creating open looks for Barnes, Iggy, and Green, the Warriors would've been dead. He became content that he would be double teamed and traped most of the nigh, so he spread that ball around well causing the Cavs to get out of defensive balance and the rest of his team thrived. When the game got a little close and Steph saw daylight he hit them up for two crucial threes followed by an assist for another three which effectively broke the Cavaliers back.
http://i.imgur.com/HnV8bNj.gif

Heavincent
06-22-2015, 03:11 PM
How can you lead a team to a title without winning the FMVP?

Bird didn't lead his team in 81?

Your logic is beyond asinine. Iguodala is my favorite player, but Curry is obviously the clear cut best player on the team. I shouldn't have to point that out.

funnystuff
06-22-2015, 03:30 PM
Bird didn't lead his team in 81?

Your logic is beyond asinine. Iguodala is my favorite player, but Curry is obviously the clear cut best player on the team. I shouldn't have to point that out.
Meh, you take out a single piece of that team and it falls apart like a house of cards. Curry is the best shooter on the team, but nothing else stands out.


They all did what they were supposed to do, collectively.

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 03:35 PM
curry's sole purpose out there is to shoot the ball well and for over half the series he shot like kobe in 2004 finals.

sorry, but, ya know, that's not gonna cut it. especially when you can't really do much else. its not like hes a leader or anything either.... which is why iggy stepped up in that role and stole the fmvp.

curry's one dimensional game was really exposed in the finals. its really a major fluke he got the mvp award and an even bigger fluke golden state won the championship this year.

not taking anything away from them, they won a ton of games. but they don't really feel like worthy champs to me. this season overall was a major, MAJOR letdown in terms of excitement.

i think not having KD or goatbrook in the playoffs this year really affected the product. those two guys are so ****ing talented and competitive it really makes for compelling basketball. and not having them around proved once and for all that they are the most exciting duo in the history of sports.

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee424/Fakade000/OhHeMad-1.jpg

Ne 1
06-22-2015, 03:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HnV8bNj.gif

This is the equivalent of a 5 year old of putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "I can't hear you, LALALALALALALALA!"

Derka
06-22-2015, 03:39 PM
Curry made some great shots but I watched Iggy all series and it felt like he was the guy who was making the big plays out there for most of it. The real momentum changers...the ones that broke the Cavs backs more than a few times...those were all Iggy, especially after GS went down 2-1. After that it was on Curry to step on their throats in those last three wins and close things out, which he did.

Box scores don't tell the story.

KiiiiNG
06-22-2015, 03:47 PM
This is the equivalent of a 5 year old of putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "I can't hear you, LALALALALALALALA!"
you actually think you made a good point? :lol

"curry makes his teammates better to a far greater extent"

:roll:

just biased nonsense. he doesnt do anything to make his teammates better. every star player gets double teamed, but not every star player is surrounded by insanely good role players who carry them throughout a series while they shoot bricks and have no impact.

you're a moron.

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 03:49 PM
you actually think you made a good point? :lol

"curry makes his teammates better to a far greater extent"

:roll:

just biased nonsense. he doesnt do anything to make his teammates better. every star player gets double teamed, but not every star player is surrounded by insanely good role players who carry them throughout a series while they shoot bricks and have no impact.

you're a moron.

Are you alright? You seem upset.

triangleoffense
06-22-2015, 04:09 PM
For all the talk of LeBron supposedly making his teammates better, Curry makes his teammates better to a far greater extent. LeBron had a 40%+ usage rate with a 5 foot cushion with isolation, 1 on 1 coverage the entire series and he shot 39% from the field and 28% outside 5 feet because his jumper is broken. Not to mention 68% from the FT line. If you play a guy like Curry like that, he'll go off for nearly 50 a night. LeBron's offensive skill set is usually limited to bulldozing and streaky 3 point shooting. If neither one of those is happening then :lebroncry:

Curry was doubled HARD off the Pick and Roll to the point where Mozgov and Tristan T were at times like 35 feet away from the basket. This thoroughly broke down the Cavs D and created a far more efficient Warriors offense. There's a reason why Green, Iggy, Barnes and Klay etc. had wide open shots and driving lanes to the basket throughout the series.

But nobody seems to give Curry credit for creating the Warriors offense. He probably had more hockey assists than points. Delly actually defended Curry about as well you could fighting through screens and he still got torched outside of game 2. I'm honestly shocked he didn't even receive a single FMVP vote. (Further showing how useless the award is) They gave it to Iggy basically because he defended LeBron so well and the Warriors looked a lot better with him in the starting line up. But without Curry's scoring and running, the Warriors offense where he was creating open looks for Barnes, Iggy, and Green, the Warriors would've been dead. He became content that he would be double teamed and traped most of the nigh, so he spread that ball around well causing the Cavs to get out of defensive balance and the rest of his team thrived. When the game got a little close and Steph saw daylight he hit them up for two crucial threes followed by an assist for another three which effectively broke the Cavaliers back.

This.. anybody with half a brain could tell Curry was the most valuable player out there.

Not a single MVP vote.. Primary ball handler and shot creator on his team, most PPG and Assists.. MVP of the Regular season.

Robbed.

TheReal Kendall
06-22-2015, 06:57 PM
Rewatch the series

ArbitraryWater
06-22-2015, 07:00 PM
I would call holding someone to 35% shooting in single coverage shutting him down.

so its 35% now? Dammit dude, 38% is already bad enough :oldlol: Kobe fans can't be trusted with stats :lol

diamenz
06-22-2015, 07:10 PM
iggy deserves it. he came through when golden state needed it most - when curry was slacking. curry picked it up in the last few games and in the fourth quarter of those though.

curry's only what - 22? if he gets another shot at the finals he's gonna shit on folks. iggy brought golden state some balls when they needed em.

FKAri
06-22-2015, 07:34 PM
iggy deserves it. he came through when golden state needed it most - when curry was slacking. curry picked it up in the last few games and in the fourth quarter of those though.

curry's only what - 22? if he gets another shot at the finals he's gonna shit on folks. iggy brought golden state some balls when they needed em.

hes actually 27