Lakers In Talks To Acquire DeMarcus Cousins

[KingsFan416]

The Los Angeles Lakers have emerged as one of the most determined trade suitors for Sacramento Kings All-Star center DeMarcus Cousins, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN that the Lakers have been actively pursuing trade scenarios in recent weeks in attempt to construct a deal that would convince the Kings to part with Cousins.

The Kings, though, continue to insist that Cousins is not available. The team's new lead decision maker, Vlade Divac, told the Sacramento Bee in Sunday's editions that dealing away his best player "is not happening."

Sources say that the Lakers, Kings and Orlando Magic have had exploratory dialogue on a three-way Cousins trade that would land the 24-year-old in Los Angeles. All three teams hold top-six picks in Thursday's NBA draft, and Orlando has a young top-flight center of its own in Nikola Vucevic, who could theoretically fill the Cousins void.

Yet since assuming control of the Kings' front office in April, Divac repeatedly has downplayed the idea of parting with Cousins, who has three seasons left on an extension he signed during the summer of 2013.

The Lakers would appear to have limited assets to get into the trade sweepstakes for Cousins -- in the event Sacramento's stance changes -- beyond surrendering prized young big man Julius Randle and/or the No. 2 overall pick in Thursday's draft.

Orlando holds the fifth pick in the draft but would presumably expect a lot to be willing to part with Vucevic, who signed an extension of his own last October and has become the most consistently productive player from the four-team blockbuster trade in August 2012 that sent Dwight Howard from the Magic to the Lakers.

Divac, though, told the Bee in the recent interview that his preference is to "do something, a small move, before the draft."

"We have a lot of changes to make," said Divac, whose Kings hold the sixth overall pick Thursday night. "The league is much more up-tempo now and we need more thre3-point shooting. If we don't get that in the draft, we'll be active in free agency and see about making trades later in the offseason."

ESPN reported in May after the Boston Celtics' first-round elimination that the Celtics planned to be at the front of the line in terms of trying to trade for Cousins this offseason.

The Denver Nuggets have also been increasingly mentioned as a likely trade suitor for Cousins since the hiring of former Kings coach and Cousins favorite Mike Malone as their new coach. But Denver wouldn't appear to have the sort of trade assets to rival Boston's cache of future first-round picks, which tend to become especially handy when trying to assemble multi-team trades.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/13131159/los-angeles-lakers-actively-trying-acquire-demarcus-cousins-trade-sacramento-kings

I bet this happens. Shaq and Vlade trying to help their former team. :banghead:

[talkingconch]

:cheers:

[hawksdogsbraves]

Would Randle + number 2 pick get it done? That's about all the Lakers have to offer.

Might have to throw Clarkson in as well.

[Fallen Angel]

I like this for the Kings if it's Cousins for #2 straight up.

They need to restart and rebuild. Cousins is not a leader and I don't even think Kobe would change his attitude.

I'd draft Russell and Cauley-Stein if I were Sacramento. Add them with Rudy Gay, Darren Collison, and George Karl and you could build something.

[talkingconch]

then what happens with the lakers pick? they draft another center?

ah they want to get rid of the pick, idk what we're doing. Cousins is a great player but idk

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Would Randle + number 2 pick get it done? That's about all the Lakers have to offer.

Might have to throw Clarkson in as well.

Id want at least the above, possible salary dump too. Intrigued by Orlando's role in this - I can't believe Sacramento would want Vuc instead of the number 2 pick

[Le Shaqtus]

I like this for the Kings if it's Cousins for #2 straight up.

They need to restart and rebuild. Cousins is not a leader and I don't even think Kobe would change his attitude.

I'd draft Russell and Cauley-Stein if I were Sacramento. Add them with Rudy Gay, Darren Collison, and George Karl and you could build something.

And old, 1 year away from retirement Kobe isn't going to make an impact on the league anyway, much less DMC.

But the Lakers FO should be able to build better around DMC than the Kings have, especially when Kobe is gone.

[Asiantastic]

Oh god no. I'd rather build around Okafor/Randle/Clarkson, rather than having to give up all 3 to only get Boogie.

[gyu]

Would be interesting to see how Cousins' and Kobe's personalities mesh.

[HOoopCityJones]

Oh god no. I'd rather build around Okafor/Randle/Clarkson, rather than having to give up all 3 to only get Boogie.

Me too.

[Bobcats2013]

Lakers number 1 priority should be landing Marc Gasol without having to give up anything. He's the piece that mends everything together. Don't get me wrong I like Cousins but what FA out there would wanna play with him?

[MaxFly]

Would be interesting to see how Cousins' and Kobe's personalities mesh.

They wouldn't... you'd find Cousins' body in an alley behind the Staples Center three games into the preseason.

I hope they pick him up if only for the drama and the laughs. :confusedshrug:

[Fallen Angel]

Lakers number 1 priority should be landing Marc Gasol without having to give up anything. He's the piece that mends everything together. Don't get me wrong I like Cousins but what FA out there would wanna play with him?
Memphis ain't letting go of Marc Gasol for a 19 year old and whatever scrub you package him with

[GOBB]

Didn't I make a thread cousins for #2? Hmm time to bump :rockon:

[ArbitraryWater]

Would Randle + number 2 pick get it done? That's about all the Lakers have to offer.

Might have to throw Clarkson in as well.

Randle/Okafor/Clarkson is solid though.. if they lose those 3, they will be jack shit with Cousins, as well... I'd rather 'build' on those 3 guys. Now, another team like the Mavericks, who would I want? Those 3 or Cousins? Give me Cousins, Mavs still have other peaces and a capable team, but for LAL? Nah.


Would be interesting to see how Cousins' and Kobe's personalities mesh.

for what, a year? That wouldnt be an issue.

[BlakFrankWhite]

This would be a huge coup.

[Hey Yo]

Seems like the "in talks" is nothing more than Vlade continuing to say "we're not dealing Cousins"

just another click bait story by Stein.

[Bobcats2013]

Memphis ain't letting go of Marc Gasol for a 19 year old and whatever scrub you package him with

Gasol is a free agent. Sign him and people start taking you more seriously.

[Fallen Angel]

inb4 Cousins requests a trade after one year

[BlakFrankWhite]

Thunder : Ibaka , Waiters , #14 pick

Kings : Cousins

KD-WB-DMC dynasty

[ArbitraryWater]

inb4 Cousins requests a trade after one year

can't wait to hear about Boogie slapping Kobe in the locker room

[Levity]

They wouldn't... you'd find Cousins' body in an alley behind the Staples Center three games into the preseason.

I hope they pick him up if only for the drama and the laughs. :confusedshrug:

except on many occasions Kobe has said he loves cousins passion and desire to win. One of the few superstars at the time that were in support of cousins making team usa (when he was on the select team)

[HOoopCityJones]

https://youtu.be/3YsIisb9vhU

Come on LAker nation, come on now...


This is just him checking out on Defense from Rudy Gay iso...Can you imagine the drama between he and Kobe?

[HylianNightmare]

Love it

[Rooster]

Oh god no. I'd rather build around Okafor/Randle/Clarkson, rather than having to give up all 3 to only get Boogie.

I have been saying no to this either. I can understand if others are very excited about Boogie because he's truly talented but he comes with extra baggage. If he's truly an elite like his numbers suggest than Kings would have been a playoff team in his third year. But he just does not have that impact, does not offer a lot of intangibles.

[Optimus Prime]

I don't know how it gets done, but I'd rather have Boogie than the #2 pick.

Boogie is a beast. :bowdown:

[Beastmode88]

Im Still Ballin would be on suicide watch if this went down.

[toxicxr6]

Lakers virtually gut all their youth in this trade.. All the youth that has potential anyways

A roster with the main pieces being a broken down Kobe and cousins is not making the playoffs in the west..

A couple years of lottery.. Then lakers are forced to trade cousins for peanuts because he won't sign an extension..

Lakers back to having nothing again


Seriously lakers are better off sticking with what they have and trying to rebuild..

[HurricaneKid]

LOL @ Laker fans.

Don't want to part with an undrafted 2nd year player to get the best young big in the game? WOW.

You think Randle and Okafor are even close to the same plane as Boogie?

And Vlade just sitting there saying "we aren't trading him" and "Maybe for MJ".

[HOoopCityJones]

Lakers virtually gut all their youth in this trade.. All the youth that has potential anyways

A roster with the main pieces being a broken down Kobe and cousins is not making the playoffs in the west..

A couple years of lottery.. Then lakers are forced to trade cousins for peanuts because he won't sign an extension..

Lakers back to having nothing again


Seriously lakers are better off sticking with what they have and trying to rebuild..


This.

[Sarcastic]

#2 pick, future 2nd round pick, + salary dump for Cousins is a good trade. Feel bad for Okafor if it happens. Going from LA to Sacramento would suck.

[Fallen Angel]

#2 pick, future 2nd round pick, + salary dump for Cousins is a good trade. Feel bad for Okafor if it happens. Going from LA to Sacramento would suck.
Sacramento isn't going from Cousins to Okafor, that's redundantly stupid.

[toxicxr6]

#2 pick, future 2nd round pick, + salary dump for Cousins is a good trade. Feel bad for Okafor if it happens. Going from LA to Sacramento would suck.


Not a chance in hell the Kings do that...

Need to throw Randle and probably Clarkson in...

No chance they giving him up that easily

[Sarcastic]

Sacramento isn't going from Cousins to Okafor, that's redundantly stupid.

He doesn't want to be there. They'll lose him in free agency in 3 years one way or another. This gives them a reset with 7 years of Okafor.

[Sarcastic]

Not a chance in hell the Kings do that...

Need to throw Randle and probably Clarkson in...

No chance they giving him up that easily

No way would they give up Randle too. Clarkson maybe. It's not like they wasted assets to get him anyway.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Please no.

Randle & JC straight up or no deal.

However, Cousins, Kobe, Okafor & 10-15 million in cap sounds really interesting.

[Fallen Angel]

He doesn't want to be there. They'll lose him in free agency in 3 years one way or another. This gives them a reset with 7 years of Okafor.
I'm talking about taking a back to the basket center when your franchise has proven to not to know how to build around players like that.

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380470&page=3


Re: Lakers, Wade have Mutual Interest



For all the laker fans cringing... it could be a good sign that the front office will build to win now instead of later on... so dont be surprised if the lakers deal the #2 pick and randle for a superstar




god i'm tired of being right all the time



Kobe/Wade/Cousins

:cheers:

[Fallen Angel]

Are Laker fans really trolling me that they want people to think Julius Randle and Jordan Clarkson are valuable assets

[toxicxr6]

No way would they give up Randle too. Clarkson maybe. It's not like they wasted assets to get him anyway.


So you think the Kings would trade probably the best centre in the league for rolling the dice on number 2 pick.. Which even if he turns out to be decent likely won't be as good as cousins.. Cousins is very young.. And he still has 3 years left in his contract.. 3 years is long enough for the Kings to feel confident at improving their roster to a point that staying may seem attractive to cousins

Why would the Kings just throw that away? For someone unproven that could be a bust? That's not going to happen

Throw in Randle and Clarkson then things get interesting..
Without them in the deal it's nothing but a pipe dream

[Sarcastic]

Please no.

Randle & JC straight up or no deal.

However, Cousins, Kobe, Okafor & 10-15 million in cap sounds really interesting.

They can get better offers than Randle and Clarkson. Deal has to start with the pick. You'd be getting the best center in the NBA.

[kennethgriffin]

Are Laker fans really trolling me that they want people to think Julius Randle and Jordan Clarkson are valuable assets


depends on what you define valuable as


theyre both good players with high upside and cheep contracts


theyre literally the #1 thing rebuilding/bad market teams go want in trades


are either guys a superstar. no... if they were already the lakers would keep them

[kennethgriffin]

to get cousins i'd give the kings all 3 of clarkson/randle/okafor


what good are those guys if kobe/wade's last few years are wasted


kobe/wade/cousins will attract cheap free agent minimum contract ring chasers...


**** the future... 1 more title is better than gambling on 1-2 titles 6-7 years from now

[toxicxr6]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380470&page=3


Re: Lakers, Wade have Mutual Interest







god i'm tired of being right all the time



Kobe/Wade/Cousins

:cheers:


Lol
I that core would win 35 games tops in the west and cousins would be pissed as Kobe/wade putting up 50 shots between them a game at 35% fg

Jees that would be a train wreck of a roster

[pastis]

C - DMC
PF - KL
G - Kobe

looks damn good, and this team would be immediatly up there for the hard fight for a playoff place.

but what about the bench? amare? jermaine o neal? what about dominique jones from china?

[Sarcastic]

So you think the Kings would trade probably the best centre in the league for rolling the dice on number 2 pick.. Which even if he turns out to be decent likely won't be as good as cousins.. Cousins is very young.. And he still has 3 years left in his contract.. 3 years is long enough for the Kings to feel confident at improving their roster to a point that staying may seem attractive to cousins

Why would the Kings just throw that away? For someone unproven that could be a bust? That's not going to happen

Throw in Randle and Clarkson then things get interesting..
Without them in the deal it's nothing but a pipe dream

Sacramento is losing him in 3 years unless they actually win it all from now till then. Eventually they are going to have to get something back for him. Just have to figure out when. The longer they wait, the less value they get. Getting Okafor is a really good fetch.

[STATUTORY]

I think we keep the 2nd pick in the deal and get him for Houston's 1st rounder

[toxicxr6]

Sacramento is losing him in 3 years unless they actually win it all from now till then. Eventually they are going to have to get something back for him. Just have to figure out when. The longer they wait, the less value they get. Getting Okafor is a really good fetch.


If cousins ends up on the market they are going to get far better offers than that.. Far far better

So why would they just throw him away 3 years early
It doesn't make any sense at all

[Ca$H]

C - DMC
PF - KL
G - Kobe

looks damn good, and this team would be immediatly up there for the hard fight for a playoff place.

but what about the bench? amare? jermaine o neal? what about dominique jones from china?

Cousins, Love, and old/should already be retired Kobe = Empty stats, empty stats, and more empty stats.

[Rooster]

to get cousins i'd give the kings all 3 of clarkson/randle/okafor


what good are those guys if kobe/wade's last few years are wasted


kobe/wade/cousins will attract cheap free agent minimum contract ring chasers...


**** the future... 1 more title is better than gambling on 1-2 titles 6-7 years from now

:facepalm :facepalm

Lakers were already 50 win team when Shaq came over and it took the Lakers 4 years to win it all.

Cousins can't even take the Queens to the playoff.

[Sarcastic]

If cousins ends up on the market they are going to get far better offers than that.. Far far better

So why would they just throw him away 3 years early
It doesn't make any sense at all

Same reason Jazz traded Deron early. When you know a guy is leaving, move him and start in a new direction. Why delay the inevitable?

Getting Okafor is as good a deal as will they will get. That's a potential franchise player.

[Fallen Angel]

I think we keep the 2nd pick in the deal and get him for Houston's 1st rounder
Remind me to take away both your greens

[el gringos]

I think we keep the 2nd pick in the deal and get him for Houston's 1st rounder
How could anyone think a non lottery pick could get cousins? Wouldn't you assume there would be much better offers?

It would take at least pick 2, randle, and future picks.

[Smoke117]

depends on what you define valuable as


theyre both good players with high upside and cheep contracts


theyre literally the #1 thing rebuilding/bad market teams go want in trades


are either guys a superstar. no... if they were already the lakers would keep them

What has Randle exactly done to be a "good player"?

[gts]

I think we keep the 2nd pick in the deal and get him for Houston's 1st rounder


That's not happening. #2 and Randle plus another piece for Cousins and the number #6 pick is probably closer.

Anyone who thinks the Lakers are getting Cousins and keeping the number 2 pick is fooling themselves

[toxicxr6]

Same reason Jazz traded Deron early. When you know a guy is leaving, move him and start in a new direction. Why delay the inevitable?

Getting Okafor is as good a deal as will they will get. That's a potential franchise player.


No it's not a good deal
Very few players come out of college and are known to already be a stud.. And those players are never going pick 2.. There is no guarantee with okafor at all.. Sure he could be good.. But he could bust.. And he probably will never be as good as cousins anyways.. You are in absolute dream land if you think the Kings are going to bite on a poor offer like that

If you want cousins that bad then accept that it's going to take a hell of a lot more than what you dream

[Fallen Angel]

Why would the Kings draft Okafor if they get the pick knowing their inept at building around a low post center?

Just explain that to me.

inb4 he's a franchise player, just as how Cousins was their franchise player and led them to 5 glorious years of the lottery

[hawksdogsbraves]

If I'm the Kings I'm all ears for sure. Blow up their shitty core and rebuild around Mudiay/Randle/Okafor? Sounds like a good start to me. Already would be as good a young core as any team outside of Minny.

Could also find a way to flip Randle and pick WCS with their pick and they'd have a very intriguing young frontcourt going forward.

Cousins is great but they need to start worrying about getting max value for him, it seems just about impossible that they can convince him to stay.

[clipps]

:facepalm :facepalm

Lakers were already 50 win team when Shaq came over and it took the Lakers 4 years to win it all.

Cousins can't even take the Queens to the playoff.
Your wasting your time. This guy is a retard.

[Springsteen]

Kobe/Wade/Cousins

:cheers:

Considering the money Wade is looking for along with his injury history... combined with Kobe and DMC's current contracts...

You sure about that?

[bballnoob1192]

ohhh look orlando is helipng the lakers land another big man. what's new.

[Fallen Angel]

ohhh look orlando is helipng the lakers land another big man. what's new.
And again the center with leave the Lakers in hilarious fashion that sends them to the lottery the following year

[Sarcastic]

No it's not a good deal
Very few players come out of college and are known to already be a stud.. And those players are never going pick 2.. There is no guarantee with okafor at all.. Sure he could be good.. But he could bust.. And he probably will never be as good as cousins anyways.. You are in absolute dream land if you think the Kings are going to bite on a poor offer like that

If you want cousins that bad then accept that it's going to take a hell of a lot more than what you dream


I'm not a Laker fan. I don't care if the trade happens or not. The trade seems fair on both sides to me. I think you're underrating the value of that second pick by a lot.

[Sportal]

The Kings will win more games than the Lakers next season... Why is this even a thing.

[toxicxr6]

I'm not a Laker fan. I don't care if the trade happens or not. The trade seems fair on both sides to me. I think you're underrating the value of that second pick by a lot.

Please tell me about how many number 2 picks in the last 15 years have turned out to be elite franchise players??

2nd pick is vastly overrated.. At best there is typically only one player in a draft that fits your description.. And that player won't be available with the number 2 pick

[Cocaine80s]

Trade Randle, Kobe, Clarkson for Cousins


Draft Russell


Next dynasty, may become a laker fan if this goes down

[HOoopCityJones]

And again the center with leave the Lakers in hilarious fashion that sends them to the lottery the following year

I love how you said that like it always happens. :roll:


Dwight left cuz he's a cupcake.

[Sarcastic]

Please tell me about how many number 2 picks in the last 15 years have turned out to be elite franchise players??

2nd pick is vastly overrated.. At best there is typically only one player in a draft that fits your description.. And that player won't be available with the number 2 pick

It's relative to the draft. This one happens to have loads of potential. Tons more than the past few years.

[toxicxr6]

It's relative to the draft. This one happens to have loads of potential. Tons more than the past few years.


And what proof is there to support this? Every year there is potential
The reality is once players reach the NBA very few end up reaching their potential

[Sarcastic]

And what proof is there to support this? Every year there is potential
The reality is once players reach the NBA very few end up reaching their potential


http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

#2 pick in a loaded draft is great value.

[Rooster]

And what proof is there to support this? Every year there is potential
The reality is once players reach the NBA very few end up reaching their potential

Most if not all elite bigs has taken their team to playoff by their 2nd or 3rd year. Boogie has been in the league for 5 years and still has not done this. Sound like he's another Kevin Love to me. It would have been nice if the Lakers have a franchise player already to build around but they don't. Boogie is a very good player but he's not one. So I rather take my chance on number 2 pick.

[Mirzas]

Both Cousins and Rondo? So basically this is like Nash and Howard all over again, except this time the comedy is implied.

[jbryan1984]

Are the Kings ever gonna be winners again? They have been collecting lottery picks for a long time now. Like nearly ten years. Last time I think in the playoffs was 06 or 07.

[toxicxr6]

Most if not all elite bigs has taken their team to playoff by their 2nd or 3rd year. Boogie has been in the league for 5 years and still has not done this. Sound like he's another Kevin Love to me. It would have been nice if the Lakers have a franchise player already to build around but they don't. Boogie is a very good player but he's not one. So I rather take my chance on number 2 pick.


Righteooooo let's trade the best centre in the league who still has 3 years left on his contract for a "try our chance with pick 2"

Glad your not Gm of my team shhheeeesh

:facepalm

[JimmyMcAdocious]

You don't get equal value when you trade a player like Cousins, assuming he definitely wants out. Add in the Lakers, who normally trade rape... If the trade happens, Sac going to get bent over (at least on paper).

[Sportal]

Most if not all elite bigs has taken their team to playoff by their 2nd or 3rd year. Boogie has been in the league for 5 years and still has not done this. Sound like he's another Kevin Love to me. It would have been nice if the Lakers have a franchise player already to build around but they don't. Boogie is a very good player but he's not one. So I rather take my chance on number 2 pick.

Ok, alright.. So..

Name me the other players and their numbers that are to help Cousins succeed, in what is a ridiculously stacked Western conference. What? Jason Thompson? Uhh, McLemore? Shaq had Penny, Malone had Stockton. What are you even talking about? And before you bring him up, Davis has a far better team than the Kings. Damn.

[brownmamba00]

If they can get him without sending out both the 2# pick and Randle...I'm all for it. We also have #27 and #34 this year.

Boogie gets you wins...we don't know what okafor or russell brings to this team.

[Levity]

Ok, alright.. So..

Name me the other players and their numbers that are to help Cousins succeed, in what is a ridiculously stacked Western conference. What? Jason Thompson? Uhh, McLemore? Shaq had Penny, Malone had Stockton. What are you even talking about? And before you bring him up, Davis has a far better team than the Kings. Damn.

and lets not forget that cousins had his team top 4 in the league about 1/5 into the season. then he goes out with an infection and misses 10+ games. the kings lose every single 1 of those games (maybe they won ONE), and by the time hes back, management decided to fire the coach (the one who got cousins playing his best basketball of his career) in order to play more uptempo basketball thinking thats what the fans want

basically, the kings mgmt has been the cause of all heartache and turmoil for that team for ages now. drafting players that dont fill needs, and signing other players to fill already covered spots. and the 1 thing the kings need, a rim protector, they refuse to go after hard. success starts with mgmt, so the kings have no one to blame but themselves.

[UK2K]

and lets not forget that cousins had his team top 4 in the league about 1/5 into the season. then he goes out with an infection and misses 10+ games. the kings lose every single 1 of those games (maybe they won ONE), and by the time hes back, management decided to fire the coach in order to play more uptempo basketball thinking thats what the fans want

basically, the kings mgmt has been the cause of all heartache and turmoil for that team for ages now. drafting players that dont fill needs, and signing other players to fill already covered spots. and the 1 thing the kings need, a rim protector, they refuse to go after hard. success starts with mgmt, so the kings have one to blame but themselves.

Pretty sure they lost like 17 in a row without him.

[Genaro]

I hope is just one more bullshit rumor by ESPN. I want the LAKERS to develop Okafor, Randle and Clarkson and go from there.

[Droid101]

If they can get him without sending out both the 2# pick and Randle...I'm all for it. We also have #27 and #34 this year.

Boogie gets you wins...we don't know what okafor or russell brings to this team.
If they gave us number six and Cousins, I'd be willing to let Randle and 2 go.

We'll see. Mitch, don't let me down.

[raprap]

Randle + #2 and fillers for the best center in the league? Hell yeah. :bowdown:


Mitch the gawd :applause:

[brownmamba00]

If they gave us number six and Cousins, I'd be willing to let Randle and 2 go.

We'll see. Mitch, don't let me down.
That would be high way robbery if mitch can pull that off:applause:

[Fallen Angel]

Randle + #2 and fillers for the best center in the league? Hell yeah. :bowdown:


Mitch the gawd :applause:
Lettuce flashback to 2012...

[SpecialQue]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380470&page=3


Re: Lakers, Wade have Mutual Interest







god i'm tired of being right all the time



Kobe/Wade/Cousins

:cheers:

You really think that line up is going to win anything, especially in the west? I refuse to believe you're that stupid.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Randle + #2 and fillers for the best center in the league? Hell yeah. :bowdown:


Mitch the gawd :applause:

I'd say that scenario has zero chance of happening, but these are the Kings we're talking about here.

[toxicxr6]

You really think that line up is going to win anything, especially in the west? I refuse to believe you're that stupid.


Come on bro Kenneth has been posting crap like this for years.. He is that stupid I'm afraid

[sfballa13]

Oh god no. I'd rather build around Okafor/Randle/Clarkson, rather than having to give up all 3 to only get Boogie.

Or you give up Randle/Clarkson/Okafor for the chance to get Cousins and attract Love or another marquee free agent

Clarkson/Randle/Okafor isnt even sniffing an 8th seed no star is signing on to that roster even if it is LA

[Rooster]

Ok, alright.. So..

Name me the other players and their numbers that are to help Cousins succeed, in what is a ridiculously stacked Western conference. What? Jason Thompson? Uhh, McLemore? Shaq had Penny, Malone had Stockton. What are you even talking about? And before you bring him up, Davis has a far better team than the Kings. Damn.

Boogie is not a game changer bruh. Elite players especially elite bigs have led their team to the playoff by their 2nd and 3rd year regardless on who's who on the team. Boogie is a very good player but not on that category and as a Laker fan, I aint confortable on building the team around him. However, if it is Unibrow, I would tell the Pelicans to get whoever they want.

[UK2K]

The Kings, though, continue to insist that Cousins is not available. The team's new lead decision-maker, Vlade Divac, told the Sacramento Bee in Sunday's editions that dealing away his best player "is not happening."

[Magic 32]

Clarkson/Randle/Okafor isnt even sniffing an 8th seed

Sort of like the Kings.

[coin24]

Been calling this for a while now, divac denying is just smoke screen.
Kings management is pathetic, they were off to there best start in years and the retards fired the coach, did you all forget that?

They flushed last season down the toilet for no reason. The roster is a mess and some of you are blaming cousins for not making the playoffs?:lol :lol :lol


Take randle and the #2 if that's what it takes

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?

[alanLA92]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?

So basically Lakers get their draft pick back in a few years. Sounds good to me. :lol

[DMAVS41]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?


I don't see how the Kings or Magic turn that down.

If the Lakers really want Cousins at all costs....that trade is pretty damn good.

[UK2K]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?

I like that.

Clarkson
McLemore
Gay
Randle
Vucevic

Winslow and Collison off the bench.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

I don't see how the Kings or Magic turn that down.

If the Lakers really want Cousins at all costs....that trade is pretty damn good.
I think Kings would be damn fools to turn it down.

They get depth, solid talent (albeit young talent, and they need vets instead), and even move up in the draft.

I love Cousins talent and ability. But Kings have never won 30 games w/ him. In 5 years. Time for a new building block...

edit:

I like that.

Clarkson
McLemore
Gay
Randle
Vucevic

Winslow and Collison off the bench.
I say turn that #5 pick into Ty Lawson (based on other rumors) instead of Winslow. Maybe throw in Gallo if the Nugz are desperate.

[DMAVS41]

I think Kings would be damn fools to turn it down.

They get depth, solid talent (albeit young talent, and they need vets instead), and even move up in the draft.

I love Cousins talent and ability. But Kings have never won 30 games w/ him. In 5 years. Time for a new building block...

edit:

I say turn that #5 pick into Ty Lawson (based on other rumors) instead of Winslow. Maybe throw in Gallo if the Nugz are desperate.

If they could get Winslow at 5...that's way better than Lawson. Lawson is absolutely not worth a top 5 pick in this draft.

[gyu]

Randle/Okafor/Clarkson is solid though.. if they lose those 3, they will be jack shit with Cousins, as well... I'd rather 'build' on those 3 guys. Now, another team like the Mavericks, who would I want? Those 3 or Cousins? Give me Cousins, Mavs still have other peaces and a capable team, but for LAL? Nah.



for what, a year? That wouldnt be an issue.
Thought Kobe debunked those retirement comments and has said he knows as much as anyone else regarding his retirement, ie. hasn't ruled out playing longer

[Jameerthefear]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?
Only trade I'd agree to. And that's only if we draft Russel at #2

[HOoopCityJones]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?

You got us fucced up bruh. :coleman:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

You got us fucced up bruh. :coleman:
given how allegedly stubborn the Kings will be w/ trading Cousins, and how apparently desperate LAL will be, it's makes sense in order to get it done.


If they could get Winslow at 5...that's way better than Lawson. Lawson is absolutely not worth a top 5 pick in this draft.
in a vacuum, I agree. But in this specific situation, Kings w/ Lawson would be better than Kings w/ Winslow, imo. Winslow would be the 3rd or 4th wing? W/ Lawson, they get an upgraded starting vet. Karl loves Lawson, knows the system, PG position will be solid w/ Collison off bench, etc. Plus, like I said, Kings can ask for additional pieces...

Kings are looking to win NOW, before the new arena in 2016-17.

[DMAVS41]

given how allegedly stubborn the Kings will be w/ trading Cousins, and how apparently desperate LAL will be, it's makes sense in order to get it done.


in a vacuum, I agree. But in this specific situation, Kings w/ Lawson would be better than Kings w/ Winslow, imo. Winslow would be the 3rd or 4th wing? W/ Lawson, they get an upgraded starting vet. Karl loves Lawson, knows the system, PG position will be solid w/ Collison off bench, etc. Plus, like I said, Kings can ask for additional pieces...

Kings are looking to win NOW, before the new arena in 2016-17.

Don't rush the process. I think Winslow is going to be great.

Now, if it was Lawson and the Nuggets first rounder...for the 5th and the Kings got to shed something they don't want (maybe Landry?)and a future first rounder. Then I'd be more okay with it, but I'd really not want to rush into Ty Lawson with a guy like Winslow sitting there potentially.

[Take Your Lumps]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?

That really is the only structure of this deal that makes sense for Sac and ORL. LAL getting Boogie AND #6 is laughable.

The only way I even entertain trading Vuc if I'm ORL is if I get both the #2 and #6 back...potentially replacing Vucevic with Okafor (similar player with higher potential ceiling) and another potential starter at #6.

[Jameerthefear]

That really is the only structure of this deal that makes sense for Sac and ORL. LAL getting Boogie AND #6 is laughable.

The only way I even entertain trading Vuc if I'm ORL is if I get both the #2 and #6 back...potentially replacing Vucevic with Okafor (similar player with higher potential ceiling) and another potential starter at #6.
I'd rather draft Russel at #2 then try and get WCS...
Payton
Oladipo
Russel
Gordon
WCS

[SwishSquared]

If I'm the Kings, I try to do this:

Lakers Receive
DMC
Landry

Knicks Receive
Rudy Gay
Darren Collison
Randle

Sacramento Receives
Clarkson
Calderon
#2 pick
#4 pick

Sacramento proceeds to draft Okafor, Porzingis, and Hezonja/Winslow (whoever's left on the board). Kings can flip Calderon to another team (somebody in another thread mentioned Haywood + CLE first rounder for Calderon-I'd definitely do that). Tank next year for Simmons. Franchise reboot, hopefully with a better foundation. Knicks can use Randle as trade bait (maybe expand to 4-team trade) in hopes of landing a starting-caliber vet.

Edit: I think Phil would move that #4 for 2-3 vets and I wouldn't be shocked if this type of package appeals to him.

[Jameerthefear]

If I'm the Lakers.. I wouldn't trade Randle for Cousins.. let alone Randle and Okafor. LOL at this thread. Cousins hasn't proven shit.. peak Nene > him.
wow terrible opinion

[Sarcastic]

If I'm the Lakers.. I wouldn't trade Randle for Cousins.. let alone Randle and Okafor. LOL at this thread. Cousins hasn't proven shit.. peak Nene > him.

http://replygif.net/i/1355.gif

[Sarcastic]

If I'm the Kings, I try to do this:

Lakers Receive
DMC
Landry

Knicks Receive
Rudy Gay
Darren Collison
Randle

Sacramento Receives
Clarkson
Calderon
#2 pick
#4 pick

Sacramento proceeds to draft Okafor, Porzingis, and Hezonja/Winslow (whoever's left on the board). Kings can flip Calderon to another team (somebody in another thread mentioned Haywood + CLE first rounder for Calderon-I'd definitely do that). Tank next year for Simmons. Franchise reboot, hopefully with a better foundation. Knicks can use Randle as trade bait (maybe expand to 4-team trade) in hopes of landing a starting-caliber vet.

Edit: I think Phil would move that #4 for 2-3 vets and I wouldn't be shocked if this type of package appeals to him.

Knicks don't listen to that call for more than 10 seconds.

[coin24]

If I'm the Lakers.. I wouldn't trade Randle for Cousins.. let alone Randle and Okafor. LOL at this thread. Cousins hasn't proven shit.. peak Nene > him.


wow:lol :facepalm

[MiseryCityTexas]

This was the center I wanted the Rockets to get instead.

[SwishSquared]

Knicks don't listen to that call for more than 10 seconds.I wouldn't either, but I don't trust Phil Jackson in trades at all. He got destroyed on 2 within the same season.

[warriorfan]

If I'm the Lakers.. I wouldn't trade Randle for Cousins.. let alone Randle and Okafor. LOL at this thread. Cousins hasn't proven shit.. peak Nene > him.

ngga just went full retard

[Sportal]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?

Oop, there it is. That's the deal right there.

But it won't make anything of the Lakers unless they get someone else too. Love? Westbrook? Both?

And Rooster, like someone said "bruh", when Cousins went down it was when the Kings were what? 6th in the West? Did you watch basketball this season?

[Rooster]

Oop, there it is. That's the deal right there.

But it won't make anything of the Lakers unless they get someone else too. Love? Westbrook? Both?

And Rooster, like someone said "bruh", when Cousins went down it was when the Kings were what? 6th in the West? Did you watch basketball this season?

The Queens averaged like 26 wins in Boogie 5 years in Sac Town. Name me an elite player that had this minimal impact in their first 5 years.

[SwishSquared]

LAL gets
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#5 pick

Orl gets
#2 pick
#6 pick

Who says no?My problem with this deal is that Sacramento ends up with a terrible defensive PF/C combination and sheds no salary. Randle/Vuc could mesh very well offensively, though. I think their interior defense would be pretty terrible honestly. They could draft WCS to shore it up and even trade one of their newly acquired players for potentially a better piece(s), but I think that sounds like a treadmill team going forward.

Actually, I think Orlando does very well in this deal, perhaps wins this trade if Lakers strike out in FA.

Very interesting, original trade idea :cheers: Probably best one I've seen thus far.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

If I'm the Lakers.. I wouldn't trade Randle for Cousins.. let alone Randle and Okafor. LOL at this thread. Cousins hasn't proven shit.. peak Nene > him.

Unknowledgeable basketball fan.

[Lakers Legend#32]

He's a head case. Lakers don't need that sh!t.

[Rooster]

If I'm the Kings, I try to do this:

Lakers Receive
DMC
Landry

Knicks Receive
Rudy Gay
Darren Collison
Randle

Sacramento Receives
Clarkson
Calderon
#2 pick
#4 pick

Sacramento proceeds to draft Okafor, Porzingis, and Hezonja/Winslow (whoever's left on the board). Kings can flip Calderon to another team (somebody in another thread mentioned Haywood + CLE first rounder for Calderon-I'd definitely do that). Tank next year for Simmons. Franchise reboot, hopefully with a better foundation. Knicks can use Randle as trade bait (maybe expand to 4-team trade) in hopes of landing a starting-caliber vet.

Edit: I think Phil would move that #4 for 2-3 vets and I wouldn't be shocked if this type of package appeals to him.

Not good for the Lakers. I ain't comfortable with the Lakers building around Boogie as the centerpiece. I rather see if Okafor has it and see how Randle and Clarkson progress and pick players from the free agent market.

[coin24]

The Queens averaged like 26 wins in Boogie 5 years in Sac Town. Name me an elite player that had this minimal impact in their first 5 years.

Way to ignore facts.
:applause:

[bdreason]

Randle and the #2 pick isn't enough to get Cousins.

[Sarcastic]

The Queens averaged like 26 wins in Boogie 5 years in Sac Town. Name me an elite player that had this minimal impact in their first 5 years.


Same thing happened to Kevin Love. They were on historically sh!t franchises that don't know how to win, and have awful direction. Kevin Love was traded for #1 pick Andrew Wiggins.

You're insane if you don't think Cousins is worth something similar.

[oh the horror]

Problem I have with this is the Lakers will fall right back into that game
Of spending big money to try to land free agents. And frankly there aren't many game changing free agents to pair up with Cousins. I sincerely don't like this kids attitude.


At some point laker fans need to accept that they legit need to rebuild foundation up. Have to let some good picks pan out for some seasons

[Sportal]

The Queens averaged like 26 wins in Boogie 5 years in Sac Town. Name me an elite player that had this minimal impact in their first 5 years.

We are talking THIS season. If you wanna talk about his previous ones, name me his supporting cast that he had whilst averaging those wins (which you ignored before), or gtfo. Or better yet, name me some of these elite big men :).

The OKC team without Westbrook and Durant this season would sweep the Kings without Cousins. Shit, the Kings without Cousins would have lost to the Lakers, that's saying something.

If you want to step over the fact that the Kings were competing for a play-off position before Cousins went down, and they then fired his coach.. Then sweet, but I'm done arguing with an idiot.

[Rooster]

Same thing happened to Kevin Love. They were on historically sh!t franchises that don't know how to win, and have awful direction. Kevin Love was traded for #1 pick Andrew Wiggins.

You're insane if you don't think Cousins is worth something similar.

Cavs would have never traded Wiggins for Love if Lebron did not return home. They are build to win now with Lebron so they are not waiting for Wiggins. Lakers are not on that same predicament.

[Miles and Miles]

Brian Windhorst reporting DMC privately asked for a trade.

[Rooster]

Way to ignore facts.
:applause:

He has like how many games for example and I have 5 seasons, Even if you take out Boogie rookie season, Queens still averaged 26 wins. Now name me a franchise or elite player that has that minimal impact? If you're a Laker fan, you should take that in consideration. This is not baseball where a player can be the best player and his team can be really awful.

[34-24 Footwork]

Nuggas need to chill out. As a true Lakers fan, I ain't giving up Clarkson. Randle maybe, because he's tainted with that messed up injury.

Hands off Clarkson. Real talk.

#2 pick for DMC. Straight up. Lakers really can't afford to fvck this up :(

[coin24]

Cavs would have never traded Wiggins for Love if Lebron did not return home. They are build to win now with Lebron so they are not waiting for Wiggins. Lakers are not on that same predicament.


Trolling aside, the cavs were on par with the current 76ers. Just flat out sucking and piling up draft picks hoping for the best..

The lakers don't have that luxury as they don't have a pick in next years draft (top 3 protected only I believe) so if there's a chance for some success now they should grab it. Boogie is still young and there's plenty of FA to build a decent team. It's also more attractive then for FA..

No one will want to sign up with okafor/randle/Clarkson and I'm not sure that trio even has a very high ceiling anyway, lotto picks have routinely been sub par the last decade so you go with proven talent every time imo

[coin24]

He has like how many games for example and I have 5 seasons, Even if you take out Boogie rookie season, Queens still averaged 26 wins. Now name me a franchise or elite player that has that minimal impact? If you're a Laker fan, you should take that in consideration. This is not baseball where a player can be the best player and his team can be really awful.


Said it yourself, the queens. It's a shit organisation that promotes losing.
They surrounded cousins with d league talent and then when they were finally looking to make the playoffs last season they fired the coach so they could tank again.
Your argument is invalid.

Cousins is the best big in the game. If you actually watched games you would understand

[Sarcastic]

Cavs would have never traded Wiggins for Love if Lebron did not return home. They are build to win now with Lebron so they are not waiting for Wiggins. Lakers are not on that same predicament.


I thought we were talking about good players that did not make the playoffs because they were on crap teams?

I'm not saying the Lakers should make the trade. I probably wouldn't if I were them. I'm just saying what is fair value for the best center in the league.

[Fallen Angel]

I still don't understand why the Lakers value Jordan Clarkson like he's the next star player in the league.

I hope Laker Nation keeps that mentality and then they drop back down to reality when they see what everyone else in the league sees. A combo-guard that's not a playmaker and doesn't excel at one skill. Sounds like Jeremy Lin, except Lin won games.

[34-24 Footwork]

I still don't understand why the Lakers value Jordan Clarkson like he's the next star player in the league.

I hope Laker Nation keeps that mentality and then they drop back down to reality when they see what everyone else in the league sees. A combo-guard that's not a playmaker and doesn't excel at one skill. Sounds like Jeremy Lin, except Lin won games.

You CLEARLY didn't watch him play. I ain't even mad at cha though. Dude can ball and is only a step or two underneath Westbrook when it comes to explosion and athleticism.

He's untouchable in my book.

[Sarcastic]

You CLEARLY didn't watch him play. I ain't even mad at cha though. Dude can ball and is only a step or two underneath Westbrook when it comes to explosion and athleticism.

He's untouchable in my book.

:lol Stop

[Fallen Angel]

:lol Stop
Too late, already got him http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239468&page=156

[outbreak]

You CLEARLY didn't watch him play. I ain't even mad at cha though. Dude can ball and is only a step or two underneath Westbrook when it comes to explosion and athleticism.

He's untouchable in my book.
:biggums:

He's been a nice surprise but come on

[34-24 Footwork]

Definitely didn't say anything wrong. Watched every single lakers game and saw him progress into a better play maker and confidently take people off the dribble and finish strong at the rim.

Casual fans :facepalm

I forget sometimes.

[Jameerthefear]

Definitely didn't say anything wrong. Watched every single lakers game and saw him progress into a better play maker and confidently take people off the dribble and finish strong at the rim.

Casual fans :facepalm

I forget sometimes.
The funny part of this is you are trying to excuse your stupidity.

[34-24 Footwork]

:biggums:

He's been a nice surprise but come on

You're right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGWZ3z_g-t4

at 1:15

He aint explosive though.

[34-24 Footwork]

The funny part of this is you are trying to excuse your stupidity.

Lol. Coming from you :lol

But you right, he ain't explosive.

[gts]

Problem I have with this is the Lakers will fall right back into that game
Of spending big money to try to land free agents. And frankly there aren't many game changing free agents to pair up with Cousins. I sincerely don't like this kids attitude.


At some point laker fans need to accept that they legit need to rebuild foundation up. Have to let some good picks pan out for some seasonsCousins is young (24) it's not like they'd be getting a guy in his early 30's with three or four good years left on him...

He'd make a strong piece for the foundation and you know what you're getting.. no crapshoot let's hope he's equal to all the hype type situation

Cousins or the number 2 pick either way I'm not going to complain but let's not pretend that Okafor or whoever they pick is guaranteed to be the right fit, they rarely are in this league, it's a big jump from college to the pros

if you can get a proven commodity like Cousins you need to pull the trigger

[Jameerthefear]

You're right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGWZ3z_g-t4

at 1:15

He aint explosive though.
You're a ****ing idiot.

[Rooster]

Trolling aside, the cavs were on par with the current 76ers. Just flat out sucking and piling up draft picks hoping for the best..

The lakers don't have that luxury as they don't have a pick in next years draft (top 3 protected only I believe) so if there's a chance for some success now they should grab it. Boogie is still young and there's plenty of FA to build a decent team. It's also more attractive then for FA..

No one will want to sign up with okafor/randle/Clarkson and I'm not sure that trio even has a very high ceiling anyway, lotto picks have routinely been sub par the last decade so you go with proven talent every time imo

Yes Boogie might be a proven talent but he has that little impact that I want for a supposedly best center. This is like a temporary patch job unless you believed Boogie can take you to playoff when he can't even lead the Queens to 30 wins. Instead all I hear are excuses like his supporting cast supposed to carry him instead of other way around like an elite player normally does.

And I'm willing to roll the dice on the those 3 players. The Lakers averaged like 2 wins on our worst 2 seasons compare to Boogie 26 wins in his first 5 years. One thing for sure, he's not an elite player and Okafor could be one. And Boogie comes with extra baggage too

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

You CLEARLY didn't watch him play. I ain't even mad at cha though. Dude can ball and is only a step or two underneath Westbrook when it comes to explosion and athleticism.

He's untouchable in my book.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[PickernRoller]

If we can straighten this clown we have a legit Top 5 center w/ upside. Future is bright.

:cheers: :cheers:

[Fallen Angel]

Woj reported that George Karl personally wants Cousins out

[SwishSquared]

Woj reported that George Karl personally wants Cousins outIf Kings get shafted on this (presumed) trade, then Vivek needs to sell, step away, or do something differently.

They need a top 3 pick, 2 young guys, and cap relief at a minimum. I'd want to work out a deal to get even more. Boogie's underpaid on his current max and will be bargain once new cap rises. Allows for supermax FAs to sign to your team next summer.

[daily]

Yes Boogie might be a proven talent but he has that little impact that I want for a supposedly best center. This is like a temporary patch job unless you believed Boogie can take you to playoff when he can't even lead the Queens to 30 wins. Instead all I hear are excuses like his supporting cast supposed to carry him instead of other way around like an elite player normally does.



Boogie has had 5 head coaches in 4 seasons, his team members, front office and ownership have been a revolving door. He hasn't been in the best position to thrive or lead this hot mess called the Kings anywhere early in his career. Holding that against him is ignoring context

[Sportal]

Woj reported that George Karl personally wants Cousins out

Really?

Well... Pull the trigger on Dr. Cheesesteak's trade. Go.

[daily]

Woj reported that George Karl personally wants Cousins out

If true with that out there they have to move him the relationship will be beyond repair

[Fallen Angel]

Demarcus Cousins has lead (and I use that term loosely) a team to not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, but 5 straight appearances to the lottery. He's a known headcase both on and off the court, he hasn't developed enough maturity to the point you can call him a leader, and you're paying him max money. It's simply not gonna work out.

Trade the man, both parties would be better off if this were to happen. Kings NEED to take that #2 pick and run for the woods, and if you were to get Vucevic in the deal as well then you pop champagne like you won the NBA Finals.

This was the risk in drafting Demarcus Cousins in 2010, and his attitude has been the butt of Sacramento's jokes since he was drafted. It's time to restart and rebuild, you have George Karl, you have Darren Collison, you have Rudy Gay, and you have two SGs drafted in the lottery, build off of that rather than sticking to the statues-quo of being in NBA Purgatory year after year after year after year after year.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Really?

Well... Pull the trigger on SwishSquared's trade. Go.
his is terrible. Mine is much better.

[SwishSquared]

his is terrible. Mine is much better.I gave you props, did you see my post? My whole proposal was getting the max value for SAC so they could get as many lotto picks as possible. That was the point. It was fair imo for the Lakers and kinda shafted the Knicks, but stated they needed to re-route Randle for another starter. If they trade the #4 pick and end up with 3 starters to win games fast, that kinda accomplishes what they wanted.

My take (if you didn't see it) is that you get good value in terms of really talented players in your trade, but no cap relief. I'd look to flip a guy like Randle to another team. If they don't, I think Randle/Vuc is a really bad pairing defensively and intriguing pairing offensively. They'd need WCS for sure if they pull that deal off to anchor the D. I thought your deal had Orlando as winners unless the Lakers hit homeruns in FA.

Sacramento needs to find a way to get similar value Love fetched Minny last offseason, especially considering DMC can play D and isn't a FA until 2018.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

I gave you props, did you see my post?
yeah, I remember all that... Mine's still better! :rockon:

[Sportal]

his is terrible. Mine is much better.

Shit my bad dude, it was your trade scenario. Forgot who it was.

[Rooster]

Boogie has had 5 head coaches in 4 seasons, his team members, front office and ownership have been a revolving door. He hasn't been in the best position to thrive or lead this hot mess called the Kings anywhere early in his career. Holding that against him is ignoring context

Did Boogie has run ins with Westpal and now a legit source claim George Karl wants him out hence on when I said he comes with extra baggage. To me he could end like ZBo when he matures but I rather not take that chance.

[andremiller07]

Demarcus Cousins has lead (and I use that term loosely) a team to not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, but 5 straight appearances to the lottery. He's a known headcase both on and off the court, he hasn't developed enough maturity to the point you can call him a leader, and you're paying him max money. It's simply not gonna work out.

Trade the man, both parties would be better off if this were to happen. Kings NEED to take that #2 pick and run for the woods, and if you were to get Vucevic in the deal as well then you pop champagne like you won the NBA Finals.

This was the risk in drafting Demarcus Cousins in 2010, and his attitude has been the butt of Sacramento's jokes since he was drafted. It's time to restart and rebuild, you have George Karl, you have Darren Collison, you have Rudy Gay, and you have two SGs drafted in the lottery, build off of that rather than sticking to the statues-quo of being in NBA Purgatory year after year after year after year after year.
Has to be traded, I don't care what the Kings do who they trade but they have to trade Rudy Gay.

[Legends66NBA7]

Has to be traded, I don't care what the Kings do who they trade but they have to trade Rudy Gay.

Why did they resign him to the extension in the first place ?

[Fallen Angel]

Why did they resign him to the extension in the first place ?
Because he's a productive two-way player that averaged 20 a game












retard

[senelcoolidge]

Well if he goes to LAL he will stay losing. That franchise isn't going to do any winning anytime soon. They are like the Kings-South now.

[COnDEMnED]

No disrespect to Cousins, but I'd like to see this through with building through the draft at this time.

[oh the horror]

Well if he goes to LAL he will stay losing. That franchise isn't going to do any winning anytime soon. They are like the Kings-South now.



I know the concept of time may be strange to you but the Kings haven't been relevant in over a decade. The Lakers has had a small chunk of bad seasons after only a few years ago winning titles.



Relax turbo.

[bobopenguin]

hmm..

lakers offer: #2, randle, Hill
Kings offer: Cousins

lakers get to rebuild around JC + Cousins
kings get to rebuild around Mudiay + randle + Okafor.

what's the issue guys? GET IT DONE.

[Timmy D for MVP]

hmm..

lakers offer: #2, randle, Hill
Kings offer: Cousins

lakers get to rebuild around JC + Cousins
kings get to rebuild around Mudiay + randle + Okafor.

what's the issue guys? GET IT DONE.

I think a 3rd team would get in the mix. I'm not familiar with the details of either organization. But would the Lakers really want to drop Randle? Doubt it.

[bobopenguin]

I think a 3rd team would get in the mix. I'm not familiar with the details of either organization. But would the Lakers really want to drop Randle? Doubt it.

cos i think kings might go for Mudiay, then there's no need for JC, seems like randle is a better option.

JC + kobe + randle + okafor, as good as it sounds, there's too much uncertainty in this. Randle and Okafor can always be another Anthony Bennett.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/4/4378776/anthony-bennett-scouting-report-nba-draft-2013
some of these scouts praised Bennett's ability on offense.. but see how it ended up?
if there's a chance to get a proven big by trading 2 x unproven players.. i think it's safe bet to take it, especially cousins is too quality to pass up..

[plowking]

They'll win the championship if DMC goes to the Lakers. People underrate the dude so much. He is a generational big much like Anthony Davis is. Not his fault management is all over the place.

[oh the horror]

Lakers might suck right now but as a franchise they are still top tier and they have at least an environment of some structure going on. Cousins might thrive knowing the Lakers will put an effort to create a winning team with him as a bi piece of that team. Who knows?



I really do like the idea of building through the draft with young pieces though. I don't know.



Even if you get cousins who do you put around him?

[Sportal]

Kings trying to shop Rudy Gay now, to make space for Rondo. Shit bout to get real interesting.

[Optimus Prime]

Lots of ignorance in this thread.

Boogie is a beast. One of the best bigs in the league and still young. Of course he has a bad attitude. The Kings are a joke and have been for a decade.

Clarkson is nice but all this hype needs to slow down. Randle is unknown. Okafor is unknown. They might turn out great but it's more likely they turn out ok or bust.

Boogie is a proven stud now. He would thrive playing for a real franchise. If we give up Okafor Randle and maybe Clarkson you do it.

Get it done Mitch. :kobe:

[Torious]

There's one player in the League I would give up #2, Randle and Clarkson for and that's Anthony Davis, not Cousins. That's obviously not going to happen, so I guess I'd rather watch 3 young guys develop than trade a potential future away for a microscopic chance to win a chip in Kobe's last season.

(lets be honest here, the Lakers will likely miss the Playoffs whether they execute this trade or not.)

[DMAVS41]

There's one player in the League I would give up #2, Randle and Clarkson for and that's Anthony Davis, not Cousins. That's obviously not going to happen, so I guess I'd rather watch 3 young guys develop than trade a potential future away for a microscopic chance to win a chip in Kobe's last season.

(lets be honest here, the Lakers will likely miss the Playoffs whether they execute this trade or not.)


Yea...that's a lot.

It kind of depends on who the Lakers could land in free agency. If the Lakers filled out the roster nicely in free agency...I wouldn't hate that deal.

I'd ask for Collison back if I was the Lakers. I don't love him, but he's a legit NBA player and he's on a very good contract the next two years.

Cousins/Collison for 2/Randle/Clarkson really isn't that bad. We have no idea about the number 2 or Randle at this point...and Clarkson is hardly a make/break piece for getting a proven beast like Cousins.

[keep-itreal]

poor man's Amare Stoudemire

[Rooster]

There's one player in the League I would give up #2, Randle and Clarkson for and that's Anthony Davis, not Cousins. That's obviously not going to happen, so I guess I'd rather watch 3 young guys develop than trade a potential future away for a microscopic chance to win a chip in Kobe's last season.

(lets be honest here, the Lakers will likely miss the Playoffs whether they execute this trade or not.)

This. I share the same sentiment. Boogie has not even carried the Queens to 30 wins in his 5 years with them and people are high on him with the rationale of his cast should carry him. Does not sound like a true elite player to me.

[PejaNowitzki]

Not a Lakers fan by any stretch but I think they would be stupid to do this. Randle, Okafor and Clarkson is a solid core to build around. Kobe will be retiring in the near future, the allure of "Showtime" is still there, Lakers could **** around and end up with a guy like Durant or another franchise type piece to combine with what I expect to be two very good players in Randle and Okafor

5 or 6 years ago this deal would have been a slam dunk for the Lakers but with a broken down Kobe, not so much...better to build for the future.

That said, seeing Cousins go to the Lakers would be great for the lulz.

[longtime lurker]

Lots of ignorance in this thread.

Boogie is a beast. One of the best bigs in the league and still young. Of course he has a bad attitude. The Kings are a joke and have been for a decade.

Clarkson is nice but all this hype needs to slow down. Randle is unknown. Okafor is unknown. They might turn out great but it's more likely they turn out ok or bust.

Boogie is a proven stud now. He would thrive playing for a real franchise. If we give up Okafor Randle and maybe Clarkson you do it.

Get it done Mitch. :kobe:

This. Okafor's ceiling may not even be as high as the level Cousins is playing at right now. It makes no sense to hold on tight to a player that "might" be as a good as the guy you're trading for who's still young by the way. If I'm the Lakers I lay it out to Sacramento like this:

You get the #2 pick and either one of Randle, Clarkson or 27 and 34th picks. That's pretty good value for a guy that will certainly clash with the coach and eventually end up leaving when his contract expires. If you until next year I don't see a team in the lottery actually having a need for Cousins.

[DMAVS41]

Not a Lakers fan by any stretch but I think they would be stupid to do this. Randle, Okafor and Clarkson is a solid core to build around. Kobe will be retiring in the near future, the allure of "Showtime" is still there, Lakers could **** around and end up with a guy like Durant or another franchise type piece to combine with what I expect to be two very good players in Randle and Okafor

5 or 6 years ago this deal would have been a slam dunk for the Lakers but with a broken down Kobe, not so much...better to build for the future.

That said, seeing Cousins go to the Lakers would be great for the lulz.

You might be right, but calling Randle, Okafor, and Clarkson a solid core isn't accurate. Could they be? Sure, but we don't know anything about them. Clarkson shows promise, but Randle/Okafor haven't basically played a NBA game yet between them.

You know who is a guy that is a solid "core" to build around? A 24/13/4 monster of a center that is 24 years old and just entered his prime.

The Lakers have loads of cap room and even more after Kobe expires after next season.

I'll take Cousins here. Have the Kings throw in Collison to give the Lakers another legit NBA player and if you can't build around that with back to back years of tons of cap space in LA? You suck at your job.

[Dr Seuss]

I'll take Cousins here. Have the Kings throw in Collison to give the Lakers another legit NBA player .

yeah, i feel the same way. then to fill out the starting 5, sign danny green to good contract, and see what it would take for MIL to part ways with Henson - hes on the block. Maybe the 27th and Hills expiring contract.

Collison/ J brown
Kobe / Ellington
Green / wes or FA
Henson / Kelly
Cousins / Black

and go big next off season.

They could also try going for a HUGE signing this off season and try to pair DMC with LMA

[DMAVS41]

yeah, i feel the same way. then to fill out the starting 5, sign danny green to good contract, and see what it would take for MIL to part ways with Henson - hes on the block. Maybe the 27th and Hills expiring contract.

Collison/ J brown
Kobe / Ellington
Green / wes or FA
Henson / Kelly
Cousins / Black

and go big next off season.

A guy like Henson would be perfect next to Cousins...especially with Scott coaching. Not like the Lakers are going to stretch the floor anyway.

Also, yes, if they made this Cousins trade tomorrow...that might be enough to entice a big time free agent. Love just opted out and will be a free agent. Yea, he's likely staying on the Cavs, but a Lakers team with loads of cap room going forward with Kobe coming off the books next year with Cousins might be hard for him to pass up. It might be hard for a lot of guys to pass up.

LMA? Yea, if I were him, how would you pass up on the Lakers with Cousins? To do what? Stay on the Blazers and hope Matthews is 75% as good as he was so you can max out at the 2nd round while Lillard gets way more credit than he deserves?

Lakers make a move for Cousins and it makes them serious players in free agency in a way I don't think they actually are now.

[niko]

I'm not saying the Lakers can't get him (so don't attack me) but the Kings would need to be 10 levels of stupid (even moreso than they are) to keep King Karl and dump Cousins.

[NBASTATMAN]

As a Laker hater I would be pissed... Cousins is easily:banghead: a top 5 talent

[Optimus Prime]

:facepalm

How can people (who claim to be Lakers fans) keep repeating the silly mantra of, "I'd rather have the core of Clarkson/Randle/Okafor than Boogie!!!!!"

Clarkson looks like a nice player, but he was getting a lot of run on a bad team. What's his ceiling? Good roleplayer? Starter? All Star? We don't know.

We know nothing about Randle. He played a few minutes then was out for the season.

We know nothing about Okafor. He could be awesome, or there are some troubling signs that he could be a bust.

Yet, we know about Boogie. He's one of the best bigs in the game. He's young. He's had a bad attitude because he's played for a joke of a franchise that has jerked him around his entire NBA career. He kicked butt on Team USA when he was in a real team situation playing for something.

I'm glad that Mitch has more sense than the common ISH poster who literally has no clue what they are talking about. Boogie is a proven beast. You take proven players, especially when they are still so young, over unproven kids any day of the week. It's not even close to a difficult decision.

If there is a possibility that Sacramento says yes to something like #2, Randle and maybe Clarkson, you do that deal in a heartbeat if you're the Lakers. I don't think it happens, because even as screwed up as the Kings are, they recognize that Boogie is the real deal. I'm just hoping that Boogie is so fed up with all the garbage that Sacramento has put him through all these years and basically forces his way to LA.

:kobe:

[HOoopCityJones]

Because Cousins has been in the league 5 years and his Team hasn't cracked 39 wins.

[dubeta]

Kobe would ruin Cousins career like he did to Bynum and Dwight :confusedshrug:

[DavisWarriorsFan]

Kobe would ruin Cousins career like he did to Bynum and Dwight :confusedshrug:
How did Kobe ruin Bynum's career? He ruined it himself. He was injury prone.

[Droid101]

How did Kobe ruin Bynum's career? He ruined it himself. He was injury prone.
Don't listen to that little shithead. He's mad that his babydick idol is 2/6.

[Levity]

ok, enough of this nonsense that Kobe and Cousins wont work

Kobe has proven (even with lack of talented bigs) that he's willing to feed the post. Jordan Hill got touch after touch after touch while kobe was healthy last season. Instead, pair him with one of the best offensive 5's in the league, and you know he'll look to feed him on almost every possession.

and even if you disagree (which is you just being biased), kobe comes off the books after this season. so any and all points are moot.

I undersatnd most of you hate kobe (and im not here to argue that point), but give credit to where its due. Kobe has adjusted his game the past 3 seasons. Sure, hell chuck shots when he thinks he needs to, but he has also become an outstanding playmaker in this league, albeit careless with the ball at times. nevertheless, he's a much better teammate than ISH gives him credit for.

[Miles and Miles]

ok, enough of this nonsense that Kobe and Cousins wont work

Kobe has proven (even with lack of talented bigs) that he's willing to feed the post. Jordan Hill got touch after touch after touch while kobe was healthy last season. Instead, pair him with one of the best offensive 5's in the league, and you know he'll look to feed him on almost every possession.

and even if you disagree (which is you just being biased), kobe comes off the books after this season. so any and all points are moot.

There would be a fight in the first day of practice.

[Rooster]

Because Cousins has been in the league 5 years and his Team hasn't cracked 39 wins.

Not 39, not even 30 wins. people are saying he does not have the cast but if he's an elite then why he can't carry his team instead of his cast carrying him. Shaq in his rookie year already carried the Magic to 41 wins.

[Fallen Angel]

ok, enough of this nonsense that Kobe and Cousins wont work

Kobe has proven (even with lack of talented bigs) that he's willing to feed the post. Jordan Hill got touch after touch after touch while kobe was healthy last season. Instead, pair him with one of the best offensive 5's in the league, and you know he'll look to feed him on almost every possession.

and even if you disagree (which is you just being biased), kobe comes off the books after this season. so any and all points are moot.

I undersatnd most of you hate kobe (and im not here to argue that point), but give credit to where its due. Kobe has adjusted his game the past 3 seasons. Sure, hell chuck shots when he thinks he needs to, but he has also become an outstanding playmaker in this league, albeit careless with the ball at times. nevertheless, he's a much better teammate than ISH gives him credit for.
That was post-injury Kobe chasing triple doubles. He's gonna be in post-injury Kobe chasing playoffs mentality next season. He's proven to be a cynic asshole and pairing him with a proven mentally and emotionally unstable big man is a time bomb waiting to explode.

I hope the Lakers trade for Cousins, that's dramatic comedy will definitely win an Oscar.

[Levity]

There would be a fight in the first day of practice.

there was a whole lot of bitching going on from other superstars when DMC came to play for the USA select team. all this whining of "he plays too hard, blah blah blah"

but you know who didnt whine and instead, applauded cousins fire, passion, and effort? Kobe.

They two have similar drives and would undoubtedly mesh well.

[Optimus Prime]

ok, enough of this nonsense that Kobe and Cousins wont work

Kobe has proven (even with lack of talented bigs) that he's willing to feed the post. Jordan Hill got touch after touch after touch while kobe was healthy last season. Instead, pair him with one of the best offensive 5's in the league, and you know he'll look to feed him on almost every possession.

and even if you disagree (which is you just being biased), kobe comes off the books after this season. so any and all points are moot.

I undersatnd most of you hate kobe (and im not here to argue that point), but give credit to where its due. Kobe has adjusted his game the past 3 seasons. Sure, hell chuck shots when he thinks he needs to, but he has also become an outstanding playmaker in this league, albeit careless with the ball at times. nevertheless, he's a much better teammate than ISH gives him credit for.

This guy knows what he's talking about. So much logic wasted on LeBeta ISH Trolls.

:kobe:

[Optimus Prime]

there was a whole lot of bitching going on from other superstars when DMC came to play for the USA select team. all this whining of "he plays too hard, blah blah blah"

but you know who didnt whine and instead, applauded cousins fire, passion, and effort? Kobe.

They two have similar drives and would undoubtedly mesh well.

Kobe and Boogie might clash, but it would be because both are alpha, play hard and want to win. The two would mesh wonderfully, because Kobe doesn't care about all that other nonsense. He just cares about the game, and Boogie plays hard and wants to win. Kobe respects that. He doesn't respect clowns like Fright Coward who just goof off all the time and coast on athletic ability.

:kobe:

[Miles and Miles]

there was a whole lot of bitching going on from other superstars when DMC came to play for the USA select team. all this whining of "he plays too hard, blah blah blah"

but you know who didnt whine and instead, applauded cousins fire, passion, and effort? Kobe.

They two have similar drives and would undoubtedly mesh well.

Cousins thinks he is an "alpha" he was forced into his lane with team USA. But on regular team his is going to insist on getting his way, much like Kobe does.

[chips93]

the kings have a top 10 player in the league, under contract for 3 more years, and are gonna trade him so they can hold onto george karl? :hammerhead:

they cant really be this dumb

[Miles and Miles]

the kings have a top 10 player in the league, under contract for 3 more years, and are gonna trade him so they can hold onto george karl? :hammerhead:

they cant really be this dumb

No they aren't going to trade him but people need something to talk about. Their ex-GM is in Denver now spreading some serious rumors.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Because Cousins has been in the league 5 years and his Team hasn't cracked 39 wins.
29*... :cry:


the kings have a top 10 player in the league, under contract for 3 more years, and are gonna trade him so they can hold onto george karl? :hammerhead:

they cant really be this dumb
why?

Wtf has Cousins done for the Kings? What has Karl done for all the teams he's coached? One is a volatile player who is unreliable to actually play all 4 quarters or all 82 games w/o getting ejected or suspended. The other is a coach who's led his team to the playoffs 20+ times, including going to the Finals.

Who the f*ck would you rather have? :hammerhead:

Anyway, how about this scenario:

LAL gets:
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets:
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#2 pick

Kings pick Russell and WCS this year, look like this:

WCS
Randle
Gay
McLemore
Russell
-----
JT
Landry
DWilliams
Casspi
Stauskas
Clarkson
Collison

coached by George Karl, if they gel fast enough could be really something to watch in another couple years, even as soon as 2016-17 opening of Golden1 Center, which is Vivek's goal.

[WeGetRing2012]

I see what the Lakers are trying to do but no... Its just too much, Im sure they want the Kings #6 pick for Randle and #2 so we end up with a line-up of...

Mudilay
Kobe
FA (maybe Green,Butler,etc)
Love
Cousins

I think that is just trying to get too cute. Just keep our core and draft Jahlil

Clarkson
Kobe
FA w/ more money to spend
Love
Jahlil

[SwishSquared]

I see what the Lakers are trying to do but no... Its just too much, Im sure they want the Kings #6 pick for Randle and #2 so we end up with a line-up of...

Mudilay
Kobe
FA (maybe Green,Butler,etc)
Love
Cousins

I think that is just trying to get too cute. Just keep our core and draft Jahlil

Clarkson
Kobe
FA w/ more money to spend
Love
JahlilIt was reported they offered Randle, Clarkson, and all their assets for DMC. I'm assuming Randle/Clarkson/#2 has been offered as a combo. Vivek's smart to hold onto DMC, but his ownership has been so bad so far.

[WeGetRing2012]

It was reported they offered Randle, Clarkson, and all their assets for DMC. I'm assuming Randle/Clarkson/#2 has been offered as a combo. Vivek's smart to hold onto DMC, but his ownership has been so bad so far.

Im sure it has but I think Mitch is asking for #6 too. He knows we have a ton of cap space this off season and next. We also worked out Mudilay twice along with Russell and Okafor. I think he is trying to add Love and Cousins this season and go after Durant next year to create a big three. It just seems to risky to me though :confusedshrug:

[SwishSquared]

Im sure it has but I think Mitch is asking for #6 too. He knows we have a ton of cap space this off season and next. We also worked out Mudilay twice along with Russell and Okafor. I think he is trying to add Love and Cousins this season and go after Durant next year to create a big three. It just seems to risky to me though :confusedshrug:If I'm trading Cousins, there's no way I'm giving up my own lotto pick to move up. In fact, if I traded Cousins for the LAL package, I would try to package Collison/Rudy Gay/Randle and rent my cap space to land another high pick(s). Some GM could bite.

[Charlie Sheen]

29*... :cry:


why?

Wtf has Cousins done for the Kings? What has Karl done for all the teams he's coached? One is a volatile player who is unreliable to actually play all 4 quarters or all 82 games w/o getting ejected or suspended. The other is a coach who's led his team to the playoffs 20+ times, including going to the Finals.

Who the f*ck would you rather have? :hammerhead:

Anyway, how about this scenario:

LAL gets:
DeMarcus Cousins

Sac gets:
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
#2 pick

Kings pick Russell and WCS this year, look like this:

WCS
Randle
Gay
McLemore
Russell
-----
JT
Landry
DWilliams
Casspi
Stauskas
Clarkson
Collison

coached by George Karl, if they gel fast enough could be really something to watch in another couple years, even as soon as 2016-17 opening of Golden1 Center, which is Vivek's goal.

First off, I'm looking at your trade as a Laker fan, so lets get that outta the way :D

I can't see the Lakers having to include Randle. #2 has Huge value in itself. Maybe taking back salary in the form of Landry or JT would be enough on top of Clarkson and #2.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

First off, I'm looking at your trade as a Laker fan, so lets get that outta the way :D

I can't see the Lakers having to include Randle. #2 has Huge value in itself. Maybe taking back salary in the form of Landry or JT would be enough on top of Clarkson and #2.
I agree it's probably too much. But I'm assuming LAL is desperate to land Cousins. But sure, Sac can throw in JT or Landry.

[tpols]

the kings have a top 10 player in the league, under contract for 3 more years, and are gonna trade him so they can hold onto george karl? :hammerhead:

they cant really be this dumb
Kings are 8 seed tops next few years.. they have 0 chance at a ring anyways.

[Kobr]

Let's take a look at the Lakers' past success when they've had a top 2 draft pick.

Elgin Baylor - 1st
Jerry West - 2nd
David Meyers - 2nd: traded for Kareem
Magic Johnson - 1st
James Worthy - 1st

Whether we trade it or keep it, LA haters should be worried.

[PejaNowitzki]

First off, I'm looking at your trade as a Laker fan, so lets get that outta the way :D

I can't see the Lakers having to include Randle. #2 has Huge value in itself. Maybe taking back salary in the form of Landry or JT would be enough on top of Clarkson and #2.


A guy like Cousins is rarely available in a trade, I think if you believe that the Lakers would get him for anything less than the #2 and Randle at minimum, that you're out of your mind.

He's a young guy that averaged 24 and 12 over the past season, you're getting a superstar in his early prime, you should expect to give up a considerable amount of value in return. Anyone who trades for Cousins would necessarily have to overpay.


Even with the #2 and Randle I would think that the Lakers would have to thrown in Clarkson or another player for the Kings to bite. Sacramento is under no urgency to act, they still have Cousins under contract for another couple of seasons, they can take their time, sit back, evaluate the offers, play teams off of each other and pick the best possible one.



Personally I don't think the deal is worth it, especially since Kobe doesn't have a lot of time left and then you are stuck with Cousins and very little else. That said, there's no way that the Kings are going to accept a half ass offer in exchange for a salary dump.

[WeGetRing2012]

If I'm trading Cousins, there's no way I'm giving up my own lotto pick to move up. In fact, if I traded Cousins for the LAL package, I would try to package Collison/Rudy Gay/Randle and rent my cap space to land another high pick(s). Some GM could bite.

Lakers are offering everything we have (-Kobe) for Cousins & #6. Kings aren't going to find a better offer than that.

[PejaNowitzki]

Lakers are offering everything we have (-Kobe) for Cousins & #6. Kings aren't going to find a better offer than that.


They very well might, especially since they don't actually have to trade Cousins. In no, way, shape or form do I see the Kings giving up Cousins AND the #6 pick. That's insane imo.

[Charlie Sheen]

A guy like Cousins is rarely available in a trade, I think if you believe that the Lakers would get him for anything less than the #2 and Randle at minimum, that you're out of your mind.

He's a young guy that averaged 24 and 12 over the past season, you're getting a superstar in his early prime, you should expect to give up a considerable amount of value in return. Anyone who trades for Cousins would necessarily have to overpay.


Even with the #2 and Randle I would think that the Lakers would have to thrown in Clarkson or another player for the Kings to bite. Sacramento is under no urgency to act, they still have Cousins under contract for another couple of seasons, they can take their time, sit back, evaluate the offers, play teams off of each other and pick the best possible one.



Personally I don't think the deal is worth it, especially since Kobe doesn't have a lot of time left and then you are stuck with Cousins and very little else. That said, there's no way that the Kings are going to accept a half ass offer in exchange for a salary dump.

I don't know how you see that as a half assed offer. This isn't just a first round pick. It is a known commodity. Number 2 overall. That is equally if not more rare to be available on the trade market than a superstar player at odds with his current team. Lakers are not desperate. This isn't another Love for Wiggins situation with Lebron laying hard on the Cavs management. If another team can beat the offer of #2, Clarkson and salary dump, Lakers should tip their cap and bow out of the race.

[Raymone]

Sacramento is under no urgency to act

They very well might, especially since they don't actually have to trade Cousins.
It's sounding like they do if they want to keep Karl.

[PejaNowitzki]

It's sounding like they do if they want to keep Karl.

No reason for them to rush. Karl wont quit and Cousins will continue to have value. He's not going to be a free agent for a few years.

I think if the Lakers want Cousins, particularly since he'd be going to a team in the same division, that they have to pay up. #2+Randle+filler for Cousins is a good start.

[SwishSquared]

Lakers are offering everything we have (-Kobe) for Cousins & #6. Kings aren't going to find a better offer than that.Philly could trump that offer if they wanted imo. Lakers are the team most desperate to trade for him, just going by what's been publicly reported. Who knows what other offers exist. Sacramento shouldn't trade him for a pick swap & two young promising young players.

At a minimum, you want salary relief, young talent, and at least a great pick for superstar just entering his prime locked in for 3 years. A team trading a superstar isn't going to give up its own lotto pick when they're about to kickstart a rebuild. This is like saying Minnesota needed to include #12 last year in the Love trade.

[NugzFan]

Lakers are offering everything we have (-Kobe) for Cousins & #6. Kings aren't going to find a better offer than that.

Randle and 2 is barely enough for cousins but you want 6 as well?

[Djax12]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 5m minutes ago

Sources: Lakers, Kings exchange framework of trade centered on DeMarcus Cousins today, discussions could intensify Thursday. Story soon.
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/613905039262883840

[PejaNowitzki]

Randle and 2 is barely enough for cousins but you want 6 as well?



This. You'd essentially be trading one of the best players in the NBA in the prime of his career for Randle, moving up 4 spots in the draft and filler.

[PJR]

You gotta be one delusional fck to think you're getting back no.6 in a Cousins deal lmao.

If the Lakers get Cousins, they have to empty the tank. No.2 overall, Randle, Clarkson, and take a bad contract back. And all you will get back is Cousins.

It's the most talented center in the league, on a contract that's going to be great once the cap explodes next summer.

Can't believe the Kings let it come to this. That "4 on 5" owner is moron. Management is everything in professional sports.

[SwishSquared]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 5m minutes ago

Sources: Lakers, Kings exchange framework of trade centered on DeMarcus Cousins today, discussions could intensify Thursday. Story soon.
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/613905039262883840Lol Vivek is running a ridiculous franchise.

Anyways, I'd have to dump Landry, get back Clarkson/Randle/2/27 in order to trade Cousins. See if Phil would accept 4/Calderon for Collison/Gay/Randle just to mess with him. If so, flip 27 to Minnesota for Bennett/31/36. Tank hard for Simmons.

[BallsOut]

Lol Vivek is running a ridiculous franchise.

Anyways, I'd have to dump Landry, get back Clarkson/Randle/2/27 in order to trade Cousins. See if Phil would accept 4/Calderon for Collison/Gay/Randle just to mess with him. If so, flip 27 to Minnesota for Bennett/31/36. Tank hard for Simmons.

Lakers get raped hard in that trade. I know you don't want Kobe getting his 6th ring to match Jordan, but let's be real.

Cousins for #2 and Randle + filler is more than adequate. No more.

Rondo|Clarkson
Kobe|Ellington
Butler|Young
Davis|Black
Cousins|Upshaw

You scared?

[PJR]

Lakers aren't getting no damn Jimmy Butler. Boy stop.

[PejaNowitzki]

Lol Vivek is running a ridiculous franchise.

Anyways, I'd have to dump Landry, get back Clarkson/Randle/2/27 in order to trade Cousins. See if Phil would accept 4/Calderon for Collison/Gay/Randle just to mess with him. If so, flip 27 to Minnesota for Bennett/31/36. Tank hard for Simmons.



The Kings could hit the ground running if they are smart. Building a team around Randle and either Okafor or Russell wouldn't be a bad way to go.

If I were Sacramento I would take Russell at #2 and then WCS at #6.


Now you can have a lineup of Russell, Collison, Gay, Randle and WCS. A very young lineup and they'd probably lose a lot but one that you could build on for the future.

[SwishSquared]

Lakers get raped hard in that trade. I know you don't want Kobe getting his 6th ring to match Jordan, but let's be real.

Cousins for #2 and Randle + filler is more than adequate. No more.

Rondo|Clarkson
Kobe|Ellington
Butler|Young
Davis|Black
Cousins|Upshaw

You scared?Not a Jordan stan, and regardless, Lakers highly unlikely to win a title next year. Jimmy Butler? Keep dreaming.

I said if I was dumb enough to trade the best C in the entire league to a division rival b/c a coach that shouldn't have been hired hates him, I would need a HAUL. And that's exactly why I posted that fake trade- because it jumpstarts my rebuild.

If you land Cousins or not, good luck winning next year man. I have no agenda.

[TheBigVeto]

Trade Kobe straight up with Cousins, do it Mitch!

[SwishSquared]

The Kings could hit the ground running if they are smart. Building a team around Randle and either Okafor or Russell wouldn't be a bad way to go.

If I were Sacramento I would take Russell at #2 and then WCS at #6.


Now you can have a lineup of Russell, Collison, Gay, Randle and WCS. A very young lineup and they'd probably lose a lot but one that you could build on for the future.Exactly- if you're going to hit the reset button, you have to get the right combo of picks/players to get a good foundation. That plan is good and allows them to have a young nucleus, while being in a good position to nab another top talent next year.

I'd still look to wheel/deal if Boogie's gone because Collison and Gay have more benefit to teams that are trying to win. I would package them with Randle to nab another top pick. I legit think Phil would do that trade, mainly b/c he seems incompetent, especially if sending Randle to another team lands him a starter + pick this year.

I want to guarantee myself 3 of Russell/Okafor/Porzingis/Hezonja/Winslow/Mudiay. Is that crazy? YES. But so is trading DMC right now after becoming the laughingstock of the NBA.

[Just2McFly]

the biggest thing is that cousins is only 24... He's gonna be a monster.

[brownmamba00]

#2 +#27+#34 paired with Clarkson and fillers for Cousins

Kings can suck my balls if they want Randle too...Cus already said he wants to be a Laker so we got the upperhand in these talks now. No need to spread our cheeks and get raped.

[longtime lurker]

#2 +#27+#34 paired with Clarkson and fillers for Cousins

Kings can suck my balls if they want Randle too...Cus already said he wants to be a Laker so we got the upperhand in these talks now. No need to spread our cheeks and get raped.

Give them Randle, keep Clarkson and the other picks.

[Heavincent]

Laker fans should want to keep Clarkson. He's your PG of the future.

[brownmamba00]

Give them Randle, keep Clarkson and the other picks.
Mitch is really high on Randle...doubt he'll give him up that easy and he won't.
Making trades happen is Mitch's shit tho so I know he ll win this.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Lakers get raped hard in that trade
as I ask - how bad does LAL want a 24 y/o All-Star C, possibly the best in the league?