Mr. Robot TV show discussion

[iamgine]

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Follows a mysterious anarchist who recruits a young computer programmer (Malek) who suffers from an anti-social disorder and connects to people by hacking them.

IMDB Ratings: 9.4/10 from 12,978 users


Synopsis sounds boring but this is Game Of Thrones kind of rating. 13,000 users is a pretty big number, it might drop to 8.8-ish once more users voted but that's still really good.

So...anyone watched it? Comment?

[Thorpesaurous]

I just caught up on Mr. Robot over the weekend and really really dug it. I'm a big fan of that Remi Malek guy anyway since The Pacific, and this is a spot on role for him. Christian Slater's triumphant return as a grown up version of the kid he was in Pump Up The Volume is interesting. And the internal dialogue gimmick has worked for me so far. I also think they've kept most of the technical hacking stuff at a good distance so far ...


... My working theory after three episodes is that Slater and Malek are the same guy, Fight Club Style, which also has some of the internal dialogue stuff!!!

[gigantes]

IMDB ratings are worthless to me, but it sounds like a decent premise.

i still need to see "deep web" first, of course...

[Levity]

Really enjoy it. Very theatrical. USA is trying to get on that FX/AMC level for basic cable programming.

and thorp, definitely got the same vibe as your white text. it made me closely watch their interactions when they were surrounded by other people IE the apple martini scene.

[FatComputerNerd]

it's good

there's another thread (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=381261) about it

[Thorpesaurous]

Are people still watching, because it's doing some really cool stuff. It's already had some great moments, and last nights was some Mind Blown stuff. I had gotten to a point where I felt like I had a pretty good handle on what was coming, and now last night was a great bait and switch on what had seemed like a pretty telegraphed set up, but they twisted it good.

[Jailblazers7]

Yeah, I was really happy with the twist. Gives a new depth to the characters and makes Elliott's mental issues more interesting than what I assumed was mostly paranoia and depression.

I've really enjoyed the coverage of the show from Grantland too and the interview Greenwald did with Rami Malek. I think one of my favorite things about the show is that is a suspense/thriller show that is constantly surprising, and I don't even really care about trying to figure it out. At this point I trust the show and am along for the ride.

[Draz]

Enjoyed the first episode

[ZeN]

That second to last reveal on the latest episode was amazing..

[gigantes]

i finally watched ep1 and could definitely see myself getting hooked.

the lead character is really interesting to me in that he's both highly sympathetic due to his character, yet also sort of spooky due to his innocence combined with the extreme power he wields over peoples' lives... both in his ability to hack and to read people well. i imagine both those things really cut down on the danger of becoming paranoid.

but his kind of story is perfect for the times. both as a hacker and an intelligent, informed cynic towards civilisation. sort of "death note" meets cumberbatch's sherlock holmes. plus he doesn't talk like a new yorker or valley girl bro, which is always a nice plus for me.

slater is a lot easier to take in his grown up incarnation. a lot of actors could have pulled off that role, but the christian slater in his wannabe-nicholson days definitely would not have been able.

mr. robot's premise that taking down evil corp would lead to some kind of glorious revolution (and not a global clusterf-ck) is exactly the kind of bullshit delusion that i hate about anarchy movements.

elliot's penchant for dealing with dangerous people face-to-face seems extremely unlikely for the 'reclusive hacker type'... white-hat or not. OTOH showing the reality of him sitting in front of a screen 99% of the time is probably not going to get a show produced.

yeah, i could definitely see myself getting hooked. thanks for the suggestion. :cheers:

[andgar923]

Like others mentioned, the big twist was great (or multiple twists). The score is always great as well.

[ItsMillerTime]

This show is fvcking phenomenal. Past two episodes have been great, great television.

[FatComputerNerd]

Yea the two twists/reveals last episode were pretty genius.

Everyone seemed convinced of what looked like the obvious. They definitely are doing a good job with this show so far.

[GIF REACTION]

Just watched the latest episode

Beautiful stuff

Dexter meets the Matrix meets Fight club

It is great to see such originality and style having success

[imnew09]

on ep 6. got mindfked a few times but its good!!

[Ketchup]

on ep 6. got mindfked a few times but its good!!
Youre gonna love the last 4.

[Thorpesaurous]

I feel like I need to watch it again from the start over a shorter period of time. We've got such an unreliable narrator that anything seems possible. I know there's another theory floating around that ...

Tyrell Wellick is actually just another side of Elliot's psyche. Which seemed possible considering the weird conversation he had with Wellick's eerily stunning Angellina Jolie clone wife. But then I consider a few other scenes, like the fact that Wellick's secretary didn't recognize Elliot, and it doesn't make a ton of sense.

I still feel like Angela and Darlene are somehow up to something and manipulating Elliot for some nefarious purpose.


Great show, but I am a little worried about how long it can run like this without just sort of collapsing on top of itself.

[gigantes]

Great show, but I am a little worried about how long it can run like this without just sort of collapsing on top of itself.
but hey... it worked for the fight club, as well as neutron stars and black holes, amirite?

[fsvr54]

Yooo, I just saw episode 1 because of this thread.

:biggums:

This show is AMAZING, why hasnt it gotten more hype

[fsvr54]

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Damn, Eliot and Mr robot being the same person is LAME AS HELL though. so cliche

still a great show

[I<3NBA]

Hackers meet Fight Club.

all the people scoring it high must be those just new to the themes it is discussing, which isn't new.

Fight Club did it first and did it better.

[imnew09]

Hackers meet Fight Club.

all the people scoring it high must be those just new to the themes it is discussing, which isn't new.

Fight Club did it first and did it better.


there's always the butthurt a$$hole who hates everything....

It's a great show. So chill the fk out and no one is downgrading Fight Club here either.

[dannywpt]

Ok, going by these comments I'm gonna start watching it tomorrow. Also gonna start watching Narcos.

[imnew09]

Ok, going by these comments I'm gonna start watching it tomorrow. Also gonna start watching Narcos.


I finished Narcos. Pretty good :rockon:

[dannywpt]

I finished Narcos. Pretty good :rockon:

Cool. Finished Mr. Robot first season just now. It was good, real good. Not a historically good tv show season, though. I imagine Narcos will be roughly the same.

[dunksby]

This show is full of shit, I want to suffocate most characters with their stupid ramblings about world economy and corruption, sounds like this show is written by 19 year old kids who just watched Fight Club and V.
Elliot on his own is a good character though, but his Slater side is the biggest idiot on TV, his team is even more disillusioned than him.

[Rocketswin2013]

Just watched the premiere. It seems pretty okay, I usually agree with imbd ratings. I'll go through the entire season.

[JohnFreeman]

Got shit half way through

[nightprowler10]

So this is definitely worth a watch?

[bluechox2]

So this is definitely worth a watch?
yea...the change in pace is great from other tv shows currently on

[ZeN]

So this is definitely worth a watch?
Its great. F*ck the haters.

[Hawker]

Bump.

Great first episode and I think Elliot is actually in a mental institution or a halfway house but that's pretty obvious.

Craig Robinson got fat again.

[Thorpesaurous]

Bump.

Great first episode and I think Elliot is actually in a mental institution or a halfway house but that's pretty obvious.

Craig Robinson got fat again.


I enjoyed the hell out of the first episode as well. I have high hopes for this season. They left a lot of stuff on the table from last year, especially considering that they played all the way through the debt wipe story.

[dunksby]

I watched the first two parts and liked it, is it just me or did his black friend, Leon was it?, just fell out of the picture since the basketball court incident?

[Hawker]

I watched the first two parts and liked it, is it just me or did his black friend, Leon was it?, just fell out of the picture since the basketball court incident?

Probably not real.

[Rocketswin2013]

i havent started season 2 yet. season 1 peaked early on. kind of went downhill. was still great.

[Levity]

USA dropping an unbleeped F bomb had me looking like :eek:

was waiting for them try to sneak a titty or two in there during some of those sex scenes.

guess all its takes is for a show to be critically acclaimed/emmy nominated for a network to loosen that belt.

[ArbitraryWater]

wait, so is this company actually named evil corp? They even say it in those e corp commercials?

[Spurs m8]

Sick show.

F*ck the globalists.

Cheers.

[bluechox2]

wait, so is this company actually named evil corp? They even say it in those e corp commercials?

its a narration in his mind, so everything and anything is how he sees it

[bluechox2]

Bump.

Great first episode and I think Elliot is actually in a mental institution or a halfway house but that's pretty obvious.

Craig Robinson got fat again.

thats his moms house...he says it

[ArbitraryWater]

its a narration in his mind, so everything and anything is how he sees it

confusing... even when others speak its 'evil corp'

[Jailblazers7]

I think Elliot not being in an institution and actually at war with himself is the much more interesting storyline. They're clearly flushing out the secondary characters more so they can start carrying some weight and his absence from the action is an effective tool for that.

[coin24]

Still enjoying the show but seems to be going downhill a bit..

[Thorpesaurous]

Still enjoying the show but seems to be going downhill a bit..


I had a bit of a bad reaction to the second episode, to the point where I started wondering about it's long term direction.

I agree with JB about them fleshing out the supporting cast. And I do think it will help immensely moving forward. The world they created is really fascinating. The pure evil of the big business is interesting in how on the nose it is. It lets them get away with quite a bit of stuff. And I really like both of the female leads. I like the notion that they're not 100% joined in motive with Elliot, and I'm interested in the notion that they might be manipulating him in some way or another, which is an idea that sparked when they were at ballet late last season, and talking about Elliot like some kind of tool.

Elliot's internal conflict is also very interesting, but I'm worried how separated from the story he is at large at this point. However, that seems like something that will resolve itself.

What worries me though long term is how long it can hold up Elliot's schizophrenia as a plot device, and weather or not it's realistic to be able to get away from it. The constant calling into question of his behavior by other characters is starting to feel burdensome to me. And I was particularly struck by how tiring it felt like Elliot's narration felt in episode two. That's something that's going to be required to keep that part of the story going, a part of the story that so far defines the show. But his ramblings feel more and more like they're repeating things we already know. That relationship has to develop more, it can't maintain itself as pure conflict, it needs some give and take. And it probably needs some more history fleshed out. Some more revelations about the father's past.

Maybe some of it was because that episode ran almost an hour and a half. Or maybe it just caught me on an off night. Or maybe it was just an off episode. But they're just things I thought while I was watching it. Narration in general is a tricky narrative device.

[highwhey]

began watching this show recently, binged-watched the first season.

this chick is a babe:
http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3860037/740full-stephanie-corneliussen.jpg

[highwhey]

as an ex-adderall user, i'm curious as to how the fck they expect us to believe adderall is helping with his schizophrenia/dissociation? 200MG a day is extremely high, for reference, the max recommended dosage is 60MG/day. Adderall would exacerbate his psychotic symptoms, especially at over 3x the max recommended dosage. there are recorded cases of myocardial infarction at over 150mg of adderall. further, psychosis is a published side effect, albeit rare, of adderall.

[highwhey]

lol wtf this episode...:lol

makes me miss family matters and full house

[coin24]

The latest episode... Wtf is exactly right

Had to skip through that shit, so slow and dragging out. Next episode better be decent:facepalm

[Thorpesaurous]

I liked it. I liked that they used the old TV ratio. I liked the old commercials. They did an old style commercial for Suits, with the old USA stamp in the corner. And they aired and old Bud Light commercial.

Narratively all it did was re-hash the same stuff, so I suppose it was more of the show spinning it's wheels, but at least it wasn't Elliot babbling some voice over allegory that was the same stuff.

Then after that sequence we got some genuine progress.

[ItsMillerTime]

The sitcom opening had me cracking up. Slightly disappointed they keep teasing the fate of Tyrell. I just want to know what happened during those 3 days after the hack.

[FatComputerNerd]

Wow.

What an episode last night. Total Mindfvck!

[highwhey]

he works for dell!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Dell_Logo.png

[coin24]

Crazy ending!! What an episode :applause:

[Thorpesaurous]

I'm pretty sure I complained about the disjointedness of the stories up to this point, and this is a pretty cool twist that justifies it. It doesn't however make the previous however many episodes any more watchable.

[bluechox2]

totally got me off guard....but then they could have skipped all the bullcrap that they showed and just begin with the Pr.... shit, now all that shit in the previous episodes is almost irrelevent and they need to tell the real story

[FatComputerNerd]

Thats the whole point though...to catch us offguard lol.

They continue doing a good job of it going back to some of the twists in season 1.

Anybody not watching this show needs to be.

[dunksby]

Everything about Angela makes my skin crawl, her plot line is so forced on the show...

[Thorpesaurous]

Thats the whole point though...to catch us offguard lol.

They continue doing a good job of it going back to some of the twists in season 1.

Anybody not watching this show needs to be.


I was talking to a friend over the weekend about the show, and said pretty much the same thing, and her response was that they've overcooked it now. Elliot went from an unreliable narrator, to a unbelievable narrator, to the point where it's not worth listening to him at all, because you know it's going to get flushed at some point. I don't completely agree, but I do think it's a valid point.



Everything about Angela makes my skin crawl, her plot line is so forced on the show...

We mentioned this too. That character is completely lost. It's one thing to keep her motives vague. It's another for them to seemingly shift scene to scene, or just sometimes just not seem to exist at all.

[coin24]

Apart from the jail twist and a couple of decent scenes here or there this season has been a complete mess..
Have to agree the Angela story is just ridiculous

[Hawker]

thats his moms house...he says it

Called it. Kinda.

[bluechox2]

great episode this week..

[highwhey]

that fbi detective has a very annoying face. i still find it odd that they chose to show her masterb@ting at night to humanize her.

[Thorpesaurous]

that fbi detective has a very annoying face. i still find it odd that they chose to show her masterb@ting at night to humanize her.

I forgot all about that. This show has gotten really weird.

[highwhey]

I forgot all about that. This show has gotten really weird.
It was part of her character intro, so maybe it was just to demonstrate that she is dedicated to the agency and as a result, she's left to m@sterbate to fulfill her needs since she doesn't have spare time to seek a relationship...maybe idk. Either way, the show is weird as you said.

[Hawker]

It was part of her character intro, so maybe it was just to demonstrate that she is dedicated to the agency and as a result, she's left to m@sterbate to fulfill her needs since she doesn't have spare time to seek a relationship...maybe idk. Either way, the show is weird as you said.

That's what I gathered as well.

She's greatly unsatisfied with her life.

[highwhey]

That's what I gathered as well.

She's greatly unsatisfied with her life.
did you watch last night's episode?

i'll put it in white in case you haven't:

i found terry colby's comment on trump kinda funny. something along the lines of "i have so much stuff on that guy" :lol

[Hawker]

did you watch last night's episode?

i'll put it in white in case you haven't:

i found terry colby's comment on trump kinda funny. something along the lines of "i have so much stuff on that guy" :lol

Yeah I just saw it on a stream. It was damn good.

It was obvious what was going to happen at the end there. I liked that Dom went after them herself but Dark Army was following her and the guy.

I think Dom is kinda hot even with that weird face. :lol

It's gotta be Elliot calling that chick as well.

[highwhey]

Yeah I just saw it on a stream. It was damn good.

It was obvious what was going to happen at the end there. I liked that Dom went after them herself but Dark Army was following her and the guy.

I think Dom is kinda hot even with that weird face. :lol

It's gotta be Elliot calling that chick as well.
what did the security guard mean by "trust me, if it was tyrell he wouldn't be calling from that place". was he referring to the CTO's house?

lol dom is cute, but her stank face makes me think she's smelling a fart or something.

[ItsMillerTime]

Yeah I just saw it on a stream. It was damn good.

It was obvious what was going to happen at the end there. I liked that Dom went after them herself but Dark Army was following her and the guy.

I think Dom is kinda hot even with that weird face. :lol

It's gotta be Elliot calling that chick as well.

How? He received a call himself in the computer store. Tyrell is still alive.. has to be. Explains why Mr. Robot keeps freaking out whenever he is mentioned.

I also feel like there has to be another side to Dom.. she's constantly being disregarded and being talked down to by her supervisors. Is she going to flip on the FBI and become a Dark Army/fsociety informant? I hope so

[Facepalm]

How? He received a call himself in the computer store. Tyrell is still alive.. has to be. Explains why Mr. Robot keeps freaking out whenever he is mentioned.

I also feel like there has to be another side to Dom.. she's constantly being disregarded and being talked down to by her supervisors. Is she going to flip on the FBI and become a Dark Army/fsociety informant? I hope so


He was also having conversations with his dead father. Robot it a unreliable narrator. Everything from his point of view must be taken with a grain of salt. Most likely, a third personality is coming through and he could be channeling Tyrell.

[ItsMillerTime]

He was also having conversations with his dead father. Robot it a unreliable narrator. Everything from his point of view must be taken with a grain of salt. Most likely, a third personality is coming through and he could be channeling Tyrell.

I definitely don't fully trust anything on screen when the scene is just Elliot/Mr Robot. However, Tyrell is too important of a character to just be murdered off-screen and not have an impact on the plot moving forward. I definitely think he's alive. Whether or not he is the one on the end of the phone remains to be seen.

Also RIP Cisco

[El Kabong]

I definitely don't fully trust anything on screen when the scene is just Elliot/Mr Robot. However, Tyrell is too important of a character to just be murdered off-screen and not have an impact on the plot moving forward. I definitely think he's alive. Whether or not he is the one on the end of the phone remains to be seen.

Also RIP Cisco
God damn head exploded.

[Thorpesaurous]

He was also having conversations with his dead father. Robot it a unreliable narrator. Everything from his point of view must be taken with a grain of salt. Most likely, a third personality is coming through and he could be channeling Tyrell.

I'm addition to that, it's at that moment that the whole place goes empty, so clearly he can't be trusted. I has toyed with the idea Elliott somehow is Tyrell, but his wife obviously doesn't recognize him, along with a few other incidents that would be too hard to explain away.

But I agree he's too much a focus to just be dead. I have guessed he's somehow related to Elliott. An illegitimate child of Mr. Robot. And maybe he talks to Mr. Robot as well. But I have no real evidence of that, other than a narrative sense.

[ZeN]

I'm addition to that, it's at that moment that the whole place goes empty, so clearly he can't be trusted. I has toyed with the idea Elliott somehow is Tyrell, but his wife obviously doesn't recognize him, along with a few other incidents that would be too hard to explain away.

But I agree he's too much a focus to just be dead. I have guessed he's somehow related to Elliott. An illegitimate child of Mr. Robot. And maybe he talks to Mr. Robot as well. But I have no real evidence of that, other than a narrative sense.
He could be dead and his resurgence will occur when he becomes a second hallucinatory apparition that Elliot will see.

[dunksby]

Can't take the show seriously anymore, writers have been using every cheap tactic in the book just to make the show suspenseful and mysterious and don't get me started on all the forced philosophical speeches.
For all the air of power and mystery they blow around E Corp and Dark Army, you could not get an intriguing character out of either group. The DA boss - guessing he/she is transgender - is a prime example of writers just throwing every weird merit they could in the mix to get a complex character, but all we get back is somebody who likes public urination and ordering hits. The E Corp boss can't stop patting himself on the back and emphasising how powerful and wise he is to whoever happens to be present for more than a minute.

And to top everything off, all Elliot has been doing this season is moping around, doing other people's bidding all the while listening to them giving him life lessons or telling parables. That is if he is not busy giving the audience the same treatment. Seriously, this season has been ridiculous.

[Hawker]

So Angela was on her way to see the FBI and got kidnapped by the Dark Army?

What a ****ed up episode.

[Facepalm]

So Angela was on her way to see the FBI and got kidnapped by the Dark Army?

What a ****ed up episode.She was on her way to see her lawyer in order to prepare her confession to the FBI

[coin24]

Last episode was rubbish..

Too over the top and bs, the whole Angela storyline is shit..


The only interesting bit was Elliot at the end in the cab

[highwhey]

damn, this was a good episode. dark army transvestite is quite the character.

[ZeN]

The episode probably would have pleased more people had they show both part 1 and part 2 on the same night as originally intended. Sam Esmail the creator said that the last two episodes are suppose to feel like a movie. I'm guessing USA network were the ones that spilt it into two weeks to milk the ratings.

[ItsMillerTime]

The episode probably would have pleased more people had they show both part 1 and part 2 on the same night as originally intended. Sam Esmail the creator said that the last two episodes are suppose to feel like a movie. I'm guessing USA network were the ones that spilt it into two weeks to milk the ratings.

Pretty disappointed about that, especially since the first part is obviously buildup for the final reveal.

We better learn the truth about Tyrell next week.

[Rocketswin2013]

just when i think this show cant get weirder...

[coin24]

damn, this was a good episode. dark army transvestite is quite the character.

He does make quite an attractive older woman:oldlol:


Yeah hopefully they do something with the Tyrell story, my guess is it's another of Elliot's personalities

[highwhey]

He does make quite an attractive older woman:oldlol:


Yeah hopefully they do something with the Tyrell story, my guess is it's another of Elliot's personalities
kinda felt guilty for thinking that myself :lol

[coin24]

kinda felt guilty for thinking that myself :lol


:lol :lol

[Thorpesaurous]

I went through the phase of being pretty sure Tyrell was just another Elliot personality, but I think the last straw was Tyrell's wife not recognizing Elliot. I think Tyrell is another guy who can see Mr. Robot, which I've guessed would make him Elliot's illegitimate half brother, but maybe there's some other reason.

The Angela stuff, while finally at least coming to some sort of sense, with The Dark Army, spent too much time just adding another layer of weirdness to an already aimless character. And it probably would've have bothered me so much, actually, I probably would've outright liked it because it did eventually get her connected to something, if it weren't for the fact that they just didn't address Darlene at all.

If it were a movie length episode that they split, then it must've been edited into the ground before they split it, because there was too much of only that one portion of the story, which up to this point has been too unclear to make the payoff mean much. Honestly Darlene was the best part of the season outside of the big Elliot reveal (and the goofy 80s TV intro). So cutting her off after her big finish last week, was a little wasteful in my eyes.

[Hawker]

Tyrell is real confirmed? He is unaware of Elliot's dual personality.

FBI Lady playing darlene against her brother is a savvy move as she is unaware that Tyrell is actually on their side.