View Full Version : Steve Kerr Ethers Bran Sauce
Ass Dan
06-24-2015, 06:29 AM
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Big Cheese
06-24-2015, 06:33 AM
that quote is over 4 years old.
Angel Face
06-24-2015, 06:34 AM
Kerr speaks the truth. :applause:
Spurs m8
06-24-2015, 06:35 AM
lol when did he say this?
Brutal.
But true.
Tbh
Harison
06-24-2015, 06:37 AM
Wow, that was cold (but 100% accurate) :biggums:
Spurs5Rings2014
06-24-2015, 06:44 AM
Got damn.
:lol
Genaro
06-24-2015, 06:47 AM
It may be harsh but it's all true.
keep-itreal
06-24-2015, 07:05 AM
does this mean Scottie Pippen was overrated?
Prime_Shaq
06-24-2015, 07:11 AM
that quote is over 4 years old.
Isn't that LeBron pic a recent one though?
StephHamann
06-24-2015, 07:15 AM
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24-Inch_Chrome
06-24-2015, 07:17 AM
Isn't that LeBron pic a recent one though?
Looks like it. It seems likely that someone added the quote the pic to try to stir up some new controversy.
rat poison for Lebron fans
plowking
06-24-2015, 07:40 AM
This was true pre 2009. Not even close now. And I'm assuming the quote was made around then, or even the 2011 finals.
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
keep-itreal
06-24-2015, 07:46 AM
This was true pre 2009. Not even close now. And I'm assuming the quote was made around then, or even the 2011 finals.
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
garbage time
empty stats
stat padding
24-Inch_Chrome
06-24-2015, 07:53 AM
garbage time
empty stats
stat padding
christian thompson
wind defenders
theaussieguy
06-24-2015, 08:00 AM
so ****ing true lol, this is why its so frustrating watching Lebron, his goto move is too isolate and throw up a brick, or charge into a densely packed paint area and throw up a prayer and hope for a foul.
He is a freak of nature, not a baller.
Spurs5Rings2014
06-24-2015, 08:01 AM
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
You do if you shoot 39%.
Rose'sACL
06-24-2015, 08:05 AM
You do if you shoot 39%.
Kobe averaged less points on same fg% in 2010 finals.
Kobe also had way less assists and rebounds.
Warriors defensive stats in the playoffs were equal to Celtics stats in 2010.
Solid Snake
06-24-2015, 08:16 AM
FINALLY, someone agreed with me. Lebron has no goto move!!!!!
plowking
06-24-2015, 08:27 AM
You do if you shoot 39%.
He shot 40%, and Jordan shot that too in a series, while scoring less points too. So has Kobe.
I guess no one is that good. A one off occurrence should be treated as the constant for their whole career I guess. Players aren't allowed to have a bad stretch of games. Ray Allen is a shitty 3 point shooter based on his shooting in the 2010 finals.
BuffaloBill
06-24-2015, 10:07 AM
that quote is over 4 years old.
Still holds true.
Mr Feeny
06-24-2015, 10:16 AM
He shot 40%, and Jordan shot that too in a series, while scoring less points too. So has Kobe.
I guess no one is that good. A one off occurrence should be treated as the constant for their whole career I guess. Players aren't allowed to have a bad stretch of games. Ray Allen is a shitty 3 point shooter based on his shooting in the 2010 finals.
Jordan never shot that badly in the finals. EVER. Even at his worst.
Jacks3
06-24-2015, 10:18 AM
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
yeah you're right. he shot 28% outside of 5 feet so he was more like a never go in shooter.
hawke812
06-24-2015, 10:23 AM
garbage time
empty stats
stat padding
You forgot:
Played in the Leastern Conference entire career
Guarded 1 on 1 by role players
Springsteen
06-24-2015, 10:25 AM
That quote's from 2011.
Nikola_
06-24-2015, 10:42 AM
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:roll:
Phong
06-24-2015, 10:45 AM
That quote's from 2011.And 4 years later it still holds true.
Mr. Jabbar
06-24-2015, 10:48 AM
rat fkn poison
DAYUM...
Akhenaten
06-24-2015, 11:16 AM
This was true pre 2009. Not even close now. And I'm assuming the quote was made around then, or even the 2011 finals.
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
39% is the VERY definition of "sometimes"
plowking
06-24-2015, 11:17 AM
39% is the VERY definition of "sometimes"
So is f*cking 50%. :oldlol:
plowking
06-24-2015, 11:18 AM
Jordan never shot that badly in the finals. EVER. Even at his worst.
He has over the course of a series though... so it doesn't change that the quote can be applied to just about every wing player, since they will all eventually go through it.
Akhenaten
06-24-2015, 11:18 AM
So is f*cking 50%. :oldlol:
not in the context of basketball goofy :facepalm
plowking
06-24-2015, 11:19 AM
not in the context of basketball goofy :facepalm
Oh ok. :oldlol:
There must be some special context.
50% literally means, it might, or it might not. :oldlol:
scandisk_
06-24-2015, 11:20 AM
Oh ok. :oldlol:
There must be some special context.
50% literally means, it might, or it might not. :oldlol:
y u mad though? :mad:
kiddin :roll: :roll:
Akhenaten
06-24-2015, 11:22 AM
Oh ok. :oldlol:
There must be some special context.
50% literally means, it might, or it might not. :oldlol:
:oldlol:
"special context" :oldlol: ok goofy nikka go troll somewhere else
plowking
06-24-2015, 11:24 AM
:oldlol:
"special context" :oldlol: ok goofy nikka go troll somewhere else
Go on and explain what it means then. You got caught out. It's all good. :oldlol:
zizozain
06-24-2015, 11:35 AM
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Jacks3
06-24-2015, 11:44 AM
lebron when it really matters (the post-season) is more like a "never go in" shooter.
look at his career numbers in the post-season.
38% from 3-10
35% from 10-16 feet
36% from 16-23 feet
32% from three
75% from the line (mediocre for a perimeter star)
this is a huge flaw that has been exposed over and over and over again (07 finals, 08 ecsf, 2011 finals, first 6 games of 2013 finals, 2015 ecsf, 2015 finals) and yet people still think this guy is as good or perhaps better than jordan??? smh.
Droid101
06-24-2015, 11:44 AM
25% beyond 5 feet. That's an "almost never" shooter.
plowking
06-24-2015, 11:48 AM
lebron when it really matters (the post-season) is more like a "never go in" shooter.
look at his career numbers in the post-season.
38% from 3-10
35% from 10-16 feet
36% from 16-23 feet
32% from three
75% from the line (mediocre for a perimeter star)
this is a huge flaw that has been exposed over and over and over again (07 finals, 08 ecsf, 2011 finals, first 6 games of 2013 finals, 2015 ecsf, 2015 finals) and yet people still think this guy is as good or perhaps better than jordan??? smh.
If you look from 09 where his shot started to come together, and people say they finally saw it all coming together, he is:
42.3% from 3-10
39.3% from 10-16
40.4% from 16-23
35.2 from three
Is that bad?
Akhenaten
06-24-2015, 11:49 AM
25% beyond 5 feet. That's an "almost never" shooter.
oh shit :roll: :roll:
Akhenaten
06-24-2015, 11:52 AM
38% from 3-10
35% from 10-16 feet
36% from 16-23 feet
32% from three
75% from the line (mediocre for a perimeter star)
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Akhenaten
06-24-2015, 11:57 AM
If you look from 09 where his shot started to come together, and people say they finally saw it all coming together, he is:
42.3% from 3-10
39.3% from 10-16
40.4% from 16-23
35.2 from three
Is that bad?
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Why are we just talking abou finals? Lebron shot like shit the whole playoffs. 42 FG% and 49 TS%. Jordan never came relatively close to that.
plowking
06-24-2015, 12:06 PM
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Compared to Kobe from when they started winning championships who is:
47
45
40
33
from those ranges... It isn't bad for someone who is supposed to be far worse of a shooter.
pegasus
06-24-2015, 12:18 PM
This was true pre 2009. Not even close now. And I'm assuming the quote was made around then, or even the 2011 finals.
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
How do you even have the face to type that BS just a week after the finals ended? Did you not watch the games? Are you really in that much denial??
jayfan
06-24-2015, 12:35 PM
does this mean Scottie Pippen was overrated?
By ISH, definitely.
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jayfan
06-24-2015, 12:36 PM
How do you even have the face to type that BS just a week after the finals ended? Did you not watch the games? Are you really in that much denial??
This.
36 points on 38 shots = sometimes.
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Droid101
06-24-2015, 12:37 PM
How do you even have the face to type that BS just a week after the finals ended? Did you not watch the games? Are you really in that much denial??
He's been in full on troll mode the last few weeks. I don't know if that Dragic contract offer or Wade angling to get paid again is setting him off, but he's been pissy lately.
DMAVS41
06-24-2015, 12:45 PM
lebron when it really matters (the post-season) is more like a "never go in" shooter.
look at his career numbers in the post-season.
38% from 3-10
35% from 10-16 feet
36% from 16-23 feet
32% from three
75% from the line (mediocre for a perimeter star)
this is a huge flaw that has been exposed over and over and over again (07 finals, 08 ecsf, 2011 finals, first 6 games of 2013 finals, 2015 ecsf, 2015 finals) and yet people still think this guy is as good or perhaps better than jordan??? smh.
Nobody with a brain that saw them both play thinks Lebron plays the game better than MJ...
Those numbers are telling...I'd imagine that they are better since 09 when Lebron really took the jump to a different level player, but telling nonetheless.
The thing is though...Lebron's greatness does not come from his shooting/scoring. His greatness comes from his overall game that is all time great/elite...combined with his ability to get you around 30 on high efficiency at times.
He's probably the most versatile perimeter player in NBA history...or certainly one of them.
Magic couldn't shoot all that well at times either, but that doesn't take away from him being a top 5 player of all time because that wasn't what made him great.
Now, that doesn't mean that Lebron shouldn't be hammered for this...because this is exactly what does separate him from Jordan. He simply can't score and dominate offensively close to well enough to put him on the Jordan level.
But honestly...outside of MJ. What players in NBA history are clearly better as players?
I didn't see Russell or Wilt...so lets remove them.
I'd take Kareem and Duncan and Magic and MJ over Lebron if I was starting a team and could pick any player in NBA history that I've seen.
The rest? Not sure. I'd probably take Lebron over Shaq. Would take Lebron over Bird. Over Hakeem. Over Kobe.
Now Lebron's career might not match up with some of them yet, but I think the bigger picture gets lost a bit here.
Lebron is, without a doubt, one of the 10 or so best players of all time...probably a bit higher...certainly will be when it's all said and done if his longevity/durability continue (those are basketball skills as well) like they have to date.
Comparing players to MJ is stupid...because he's the best player ever...at least since the modern era...and it isn't close. He virtually had no weaknesses at all and pretty much always came through when it mattered most in the biggest moments of his career.
After MJ though? LeBron is about as good as anyone ever...again (I didn't see Russell or Wilt)...
HurricaneKid
06-24-2015, 01:20 PM
If you guys seriously don't think LBJ can post you are a joke.
KungFuJoe
06-24-2015, 01:20 PM
Wow. Lebron slips past my top 10...maybe 15 after reading this. Truth hurts.
Funktion
06-24-2015, 01:20 PM
"so when the game really gets tough, he has a hard time finding easy baskets"
That can can apply to most if not all of Brans 4th quarters.
AirFederer
06-24-2015, 01:23 PM
As much as MJ "stan" I am I don`t think the quote is fair.
StrongLurk
06-24-2015, 01:23 PM
That quote is really old. Man these Bron haters have sad lives.
Dude just lost in the finals and they still have to make up shit to try to criticize him somehow.
The guy is worth half a billion dollars :lol
Jacks3
06-24-2015, 01:26 PM
If you guys seriously don't think LBJ can post you are a joke.
PPP in the post (points per possessions): 0.83. Outside the top 100 in the league. With a measly 8.6% frequency.
Wow. How amazing. :bowdown:
Jordan never shot that badly in the finals. EVER. Even at his worst.
Yup, he also NEVER EVER led his team to this point w/o his 2nd and 3rd best players...
jimmy77x
06-24-2015, 02:00 PM
That quote is really old. Man these Bron haters have sad lives.
Dude just lost in the finals and they still have to make up shit to try to criticize him somehow.
The guy is worth half a billion dollars :lol
no one gives a shit :lol mj>>>>>small **** lebaldo
Yup, he also NEVER EVER led his team to this point w/o his 2nd and 3rd best players...
Lebron didn't lead his team to the finals without kyrie. Kyrie only missed 2 games until the finals. Why do people keep saying this?
sd3035
06-24-2015, 02:05 PM
Kerr is a smart man :applause:
He used that knowledge to let Lebald shoot his team out of the series :applause: :applause: :applause:
TheMarkMadsen
06-24-2015, 02:07 PM
How do you even have the face to type that BS just a week after the finals ended? Did you not watch the games? Are you really in that much denial??
the poor guy has been breaking down lately
TheMarkMadsen
06-24-2015, 02:08 PM
Kerr obviously still feels this way and that's a fact. just look at how he defended Lenojumper all series if you need anymore evidence
Iceman#44
06-24-2015, 02:11 PM
Yup, he also NEVER EVER led his team to this point w/o his 2nd and 3rd best players...
2/6 Doe :lol
Mr. Jabbar
06-24-2015, 02:13 PM
How do you even have the face to type that BS just a week after the finals ended? Did you not watch the games? Are you really in that much denial??
:oldlol:
Mr. Jabbar
06-24-2015, 02:14 PM
Kerr obviously still feels this way and that's a fact. just look at how he defended Lenojumper all series if you need anymore evidence
this
GreggPopazit
06-24-2015, 02:14 PM
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DMAVS41
06-24-2015, 02:15 PM
Kerr obviously still feels this way and that's a fact. just look at how he defended Lenojumper all series if you need anymore evidence
Of course he does.
Lebron's jumper has failed him repeatedly in the playoffs and especially in the finals throughout his career.
The most under-rated thing about the 13 finals is how horrible Lebron was shooting/scoring until the last 10 minutes of game 6. The Spurs deserve a ton of blame for the choke and end of the game, but the truth is...they got really unlucky that Lebron started to actually make shots like that....
And then got absurdly unlucky that he happened to hit so many in game 7...that is rare for Lebron in the playoffs/finals.
Props to Lebron for making them of course, but everyone with a brain knows you are doing just fine with Lebron taking contested mid range shots and 3's....
Lebron didn't lead his team to the finals without kyrie. Kyrie only missed 2 games until the finals. Why do people keep saying this?
maybe because he played injuried since boston series? u gonna act that was Kyrie in his normal game?
2/6 Doe :lol
impressive :applause:
3ball
06-24-2015, 02:22 PM
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
just AMAZING delusions in this one sentence - a lot of players can average 36 PPG if they take 34 shots per game.
also, if you shoot 39.8% overall against single-coverage, 33.1% on isolations, and 30% in 4th quarters - that is the DEFINITION of "sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter"
btw, if this is how Kerr felt a few years ago, then that explains why he didn't double-team Lebron.. lol... these Finals proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the gap between Lebron and MJ is not small like some people think.
just AMAZING delusions in this one sentence - a lot of players can average 36 PPG if they take 34 shots per game.
also, if you shoot 39.8% overall against single-coverage, 33.1% on isolations, and 30% in 4th quarters - that is the DEFINITION of "sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter"
btw, if this is how Kerr felt a few years ago, then that explains why he didn't double-team Lebron.. lol... these Finals proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the gap between Lebron and MJ is not small like some people think.
keyword.
sd3035
06-24-2015, 02:36 PM
keyword.
That was three words
3ball
06-24-2015, 02:42 PM
keyword.
nah.. i've never thought the gap was small.
i've said for years that lebron is nowhere near MJ.. but this series was the icing on the cake, leaving zero room for argument - i'm basically elated that this series happened so everyone can see what i've known for a while.
i could've just waited for this series (to show the gap between MJ and Lebron) - then I wouldn't have needed to make thousands of posts trying to prove it with sheer intuitive logic.
39.8% against single-coverage, while getting the most isolations and the most secluded isolations of anyone in the history of the game.. lol... of course, all of this exposed lebron's several limited, unsophisticated offensive repertoire, just like Kerr accurately predicted a few years ago (and then personally exposed with astute coaching).
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nzahir
06-24-2015, 02:46 PM
Old quote, he has praised him in past years
nah.. i've never thought the gap was small.
i've said for years that lebron is nowhere near MJ.. but this series was the icing on the cake, leaving zero room for argument - i'm basically elated that this series happened so everyone can see what i've known for a while.
i could've just waited for this series (to show the gap between MJ and Lebron) - then I wouldn't have needed to make thousands of posts trying to prove it with sheer intuitive logic.
39.8% against single-coverage, while getting the most isolations and the most secluded isolations of anyone in the history of the game.. lol... of course, all of this exposed lebron's several limited, unsophisticated offensive repertoire, just like Kerr accurately predicted a few years ago (and then personally exposed with astute coaching).
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You do know he was getting that many isolations exactly because he had no options right? (i mean, no1 to pass...)
3ball
06-24-2015, 02:54 PM
Old quote, he has praised him in past years
hmmmm.. nah... any Kerr comments on Lebron in recent years have been of the generic sort:
"oh yeah, Lebron's a force, who can stop that guy, 6'8", 260... what a force, best player itl"
but the comments he made in the OP's quote gets specific about how Kerr really feels about Lebron's game... and he proved he felt that way by not double-teaming him, even though he's the best player itl.
just because lebron is the best player itl, that doesn't mean MJ isn't vastly better.
like, CP3 is the best PG in the league, but he's nowhere near Magic.
Dr Hawk
06-24-2015, 02:56 PM
hmmmm.. nah... any Kerr comments on Lebron in recent years have been of the generic sort:
"oh yeah, Lebron's a force, who can stop that guy, 6'8", 260... what a force, best player itl"
but the comments he made in the OP's quote gets specific about how Kerr really feels about Lebron's game... and he proved he felt that way by not double-teaming him, even though he's the best player itl.
just because lebron is the best player itl, that doesn't mean MJ isn't vastly better.
like, CP3 is the best PG in the league, but he's nowhere near Magic.
Well said
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-24-2015, 02:57 PM
hmmmm.. nah... any Kerr comments on Lebron in recent years have been of the generic sort:
"oh yeah, Lebron's a force, who can stop that guy, 6'8", 260... what a force, best player itl"
but the comments he made in the OP's quote gets specific about how Kerr really feels about Lebron's game... and he proved he felt that way by not double-teaming him, even though he's the best player itl.
just because lebron is the best player itl, that doesn't mean MJ isn't vastly better.
like, CP3 is the best PG in the league, but he's nowhere near Magic.
3ball with a worthy rep post? My dude coming up in the world :cheers:
3ball
06-24-2015, 02:59 PM
3ball with a worthy rep post? My dude coming up in the world :cheers:
then go ahead and rep me bro... look at me... i'm in the red.. :( :lol
sd3035
06-24-2015, 03:14 PM
then go ahead and rep me bro... look at me... i'm in the red.. :( :lol
It's common for people who speak the truth about Lebron on this forum to be in the red.
The Lebald family is a few third world guys with about 10 alts, and they take the whole rep thing very seriously :lol
Heavincent
06-24-2015, 03:19 PM
like, CP3 is the best PG in the league, but he's nowhere near Magic.
lol what? No he's not.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-24-2015, 03:21 PM
lol what? No he's not.
Curry is a better player than CP, in my opinion. For now at least.
Better at being a point-guard in the actual sense? Won't say its inarguable, but CP has a better case in that regard.
riseagainst
06-24-2015, 03:27 PM
christian thompson
wind defenders
timothy mozgov
PickernRoller
06-24-2015, 03:35 PM
Lebron family getting trashed left and right.
That's what happens when you a rep a fraud to Top 5 GOAT status. Dude doesn't belong there - just that simple.
3ball
06-24-2015, 04:04 PM
lebron is the best player itl
btw, this isn't necessarily true... when i said this, i was feeling happy to see the Kerr quote, which made me feel like i could throw poor Lebron a bone..
but in reality, the Warriors allowed Lebron to be single-covered because they thought his offense was BAD... They allowed him to have the most isolations and the most secluded isolations of anyone in history because they thought his offense was BAD..
And they proved to be right - Lebron needed 34 FGA to get 36 PPG while shooting 39.8% against single-coverage, 30% in 4th quarter, and 33% on isolations.. Both Westbrook and Durant would do better than this..
Of course, Kerr would never play Durant or Westbrook so softly defensively - this alone could serve as the basis for their superiority over Lebron.
Meanwhile, Anthony Davis DID better (32/11 on 54% FG... with FAR better defense).
I think these four players - Davis, Westbrook, Durant, Lebron - all have a legit case for best player itl.. Honestly, Curry deserves at least a mention in the same breath too.
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imnew09
06-24-2015, 04:30 PM
No Wonder his defensive plan worked so well on him.
ISO ALL DAY :bowdown:
24-Inch_Chrome
06-24-2015, 04:32 PM
It's common for people who speak the truth about Lebron on this forum to be in the red.
The Lebald family is a few third world guys with about 10 alts, and they take the whole rep thing very seriously :lol
Dubeta is in red, as are all of his alts.
Dbrog
06-24-2015, 04:44 PM
Joe Bereta GOAT. Would rep again :rockon:
Achilleas
06-24-2015, 04:47 PM
kerr bbiq is goat :applause:
maybe because he played injuried since boston series? u gonna act that was Kyrie in his normal game?
He was playing though right? Pippen played injured for long stretches of the playoffs during the 2nd three peat and I don't hear anyone mention that.
ZMonkey11
06-24-2015, 06:59 PM
This was true pre 2009. Not even close now. And I'm assuming the quote was made around then, or even the 2011 finals.
You don't average 36ppg if you're a sometimes go in, sometimes not go in shooter.
And exactly what year was LeBron scoring champion? 2008. So....you were saying?
Chrono90
06-24-2015, 07:08 PM
This is just a deeper insight of what everybody knows already.
Jordan/Kobe are straight up scorers while Lebron is an all around player.
Lebron's talent is dominating the ball and flirt with a triple double while scoring 25+ ppg.
Lebron is a very very good scorer but he's not great at it. Jordan/Kobe are great scorers but their rebounds and assists numbers not as high as Lebron.
BBallZen83
06-24-2015, 07:33 PM
This is just a deeper insight of what everybody knows already.
Jordan/Kobe are straight up scorers while Lebron is an all around player.
Lebron's talent is dominating the ball and flirt with a triple double while scoring 25+ ppg.
Lebron is a very very good scorer but he's not great at it. Jordan/Kobe are great scorers but their rebounds and assists numbers not as high as Lebron.
Exactly. Jordan and Kobe will always be more polished offensive threats than Lebron. They have better handles and footwork and more go to moves. What makes Lebron great is his all around game. Always has, always will be. He isn't GOAT at any one thing but he is great at all.
That being said, if Lebron wants to keep up his scoring averages, his jumper is going to have to somehow get more consistent, or he is going to have to get some more effective moves in the post. His athleticism is declining noticeably, so he can't just blow past people and dunk like before.
BigMacAttack
06-24-2015, 08:35 PM
COuld this be the "other motiviation" Lebron told us about but wouldn't tell us about?
Poetry
06-24-2015, 08:37 PM
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buddha
06-24-2015, 08:37 PM
This is just a deeper insight of what everybody knows already.
Jordan/Kobe are straight up scorers while Lebron is an all around player.
Lebron's talent is dominating the ball and flirt with a triple double while scoring 25+ ppg.
Lebron is a very very good scorer but he's not great at it. Jordan/Kobe are great scorers but their rebounds and assists numbers not as high as Lebron.
Kobe and Jordan are better defenders.. I'm also positive if Kobe and Jordan decided to hog all the uncontested defensive rebounders they'd put up the same if not better numbers in that category and Jordan was a better play maker than LeBron.
warriorfan
06-24-2015, 08:39 PM
This is just a deeper insight of what everybody knows already.
Jordan/Kobe are straight up scorers while Lebron is an all around player.
Lebron's talent is dominating the ball and flirt with a triple double while scoring 25+ ppg.
Lebron is a very very good scorer but he's not great at it. Jordan/Kobe are great scorers but their rebounds and assists numbers not as high as Lebron.
LeBron coasts on defense and gets one or two highlight chase downs and everyone praises him like he's Bill Russell or some shit.
LeBron nabs all the pointless uncontested rebounds instead of heading up floor for the break and people think he is Moses Malone.
LeBron is a flawed scorer, good passer, mediocre play maker, mediocre rebounder, mediocre to poor defender.
LBJ is not an all around player.
jstern
06-24-2015, 10:57 PM
That quote was so true, simply my point as to why the two can't compare. But non the less Lebron is not top 5, but he's a top 5 talent, considering how much he impacts a game. But Jordan has the edge, because of what the quote says.
J Shuttlesworth
06-24-2015, 11:27 PM
Quote must be old. I heard Steve Kerr on the Lowe Post podcast today, and he said nothing but good things about LeBron's game.
3peated
06-24-2015, 11:35 PM
does this mean Scottie Pippen was overrated?
i think it means scottie pippen would be the best player in today's nba.
34-24 Footwork
06-24-2015, 11:37 PM
Saying that Lebron James doesnt have a Jumper isnt a bad thing. It's just true, unfortunately. Dude doesn't know the definition of an easy bucket outside of 3 feet.
Big Cheese
06-24-2015, 11:38 PM
Quote must be old. I heard Steve Kerr on the Lowe Post podcast today, and he said nothing but good things about LeBron's game.
its from 2011 after the finals.
rest of the article
"Michael had three years at North Carolina with Dean Smith. That makes a big difference," Kerr said. "I think he was brought up at a time when there was probably better development at a young age in terms of coaching. I think LeBron is a product of the AAU system where you rely on your athleticism, you go and play 100 games a year but maybe you don't focus on your weaknesses and what you need to lock in on.
"As a result, fundamentally and technically LeBron has some flaws. He has to address those. If I were him I would spend all summer down on the low block shooting jump hooks and turnaround jump shots -- the entire summer."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6656859
sd3035
06-24-2015, 11:39 PM
Kerr ethered Lebald in the finals too :applause: :applause:
34-24 Footwork
06-24-2015, 11:44 PM
I think it's time to redefine "perimeter player" though. He's been labeled as a perimeter player, but the eye test tells me that LMA and Dirk are more perimeter players than LBJ.
...which is why it's not really fair to compare LBJ, KB, MJ FG% when MJ and KB lived from 15-18ft.
sd3035
06-24-2015, 11:46 PM
I think it's time to redefine "perimeter player" though. He's been labeled as a perimeter player, but the eye test tells me that LMA and Dirk are more perimeter players than LBJ.
...which is why it's not really fair to compare LBJ, KB, MJ FG% when MJ and KB lived from 15-18ft.
Imagine MJ shooting 39% on single coverage in the finals :roll: :roll:
imnew09
06-25-2015, 01:05 AM
Quote must be old. I heard Steve Kerr on the Lowe Post podcast today, and he said nothing but good things about LeBron's game.
"Good things" are just a bait so Lebeta attack more on ISO. That 39% FG on SINGLE coverage :lol :lol :lol
Funktion
06-25-2015, 02:00 AM
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EllisGW
06-25-2015, 08:36 AM
It's obvious people are scared of lebron otherwise no one would post about him. The sad part your posting quote 5 years ago......you can't even find a quote day.
Sarcastic
06-25-2015, 10:00 AM
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He's missing his pinkie
Da_Realist
06-25-2015, 10:06 AM
He was playing though right? Pippen played injured for long stretches of the playoffs during the 2nd three peat and I don't hear anyone mention that.
More importantly, who exactly did Cleveland beat that any other great wouldn't have? They had guys that could rebound and play defense at the least .. going against guys that couldn't hit the side of a barn (Chicago and Atlanta).
Da_Realist
06-25-2015, 10:09 AM
its from 2011 after the finals.
rest of the article
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6656859
Kerr is exactly right.
Da_Realist
06-25-2015, 10:10 AM
Kerr obviously still feels this way and that's a fact. just look at how he defended Lenojumper all series if you need anymore evidence
of course, all of this exposed lebron's several limited, unsophisticated offensive repertoire, just like Kerr accurately predicted a few years ago (and then personally exposed with astute coaching)..
True
Da_Realist
06-25-2015, 10:10 AM
then go ahead and rep me bro... look at me... i'm in the red.. :( :lol
I'd rep you but...
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 3ball again.
STATUTORY
06-25-2015, 10:21 AM
Quote must be old. I heard Steve Kerr on the Lowe Post podcast today, and he said nothing but good things about LeBron's game.
:roll: :roll: :roll: he was patronizing Lebron the way people do to special ed kids when they color inside the line
Kerr translated his quote into coaching philosophy this finals
Bran get SAUCED
pegasus
06-25-2015, 11:20 AM
Old quote, he has praised him in past years
And just last week fuc*ed him in the ass on national TV.
HurricaneKid
06-25-2015, 11:27 AM
Kobe and Jordan are better defenders
https://sites.google.com/site/rapmstats/97-14-rapm-2
Kobe has been about 1000 points worse defensively than LeBron over their careers.
Its comical you could actually say this and allow yourself to be quoted having said it.
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