Lebron v Kobe Overall Career Stats Comparison

[JZ600]

Lebron beats kobe in:
Ppg
Fg%
3pt%
Rpb
Apg
Steals
Blocks

Kobe beats lebron in:
FT%
Tov

I am just comparing the standard stats.

[ISHGoat]

If you look at the advanced stats and impact stats like net points per 100 possessions and ws48 it is not even close.

In b4 horde of butthurt kobe stans

[plowking]

But 5>2...


- ISH logic

[scandisk_]

wilt has MJ beat on...


the list goes on..

on the GOAT rankings though

:roll:

[JZ600]

wilt has MJ beat on...


the list goes on..

on the GOAT rankings though

:roll:
Too lazy to look it up but im sure if you adjust paces its def not as one sided as bron kobe

[Ne 1]

wilt has MJ beat on...


the list goes on..

on the GOAT rankings though

:roll:

and LeBron also matched Wilt's 2/6.

[sdot_thadon]

Books been closed on kobe vs lebron almost as long as kobe vs mj, what made this worth revisiting lately? :oldlol:

[Mr. Jabbar]

who cares... lebron has stat padded in that weak conference all his life, if his numbers were real and not inflated, he wouldn't be 2/6. :banana:

[DMAVS41]

who cares... lebron has stat padded in that weak conference all his life, if his numbers were real and not inflated, he wouldn't be 2/6. :banana:

Are you sure?

07 and 15 were basically the two worst supporting casts to ever make the finals. What players are winning with that help?

11? Complete title lock for most all time greats.

12? Not a lock at all. LeBron was transcendent in these playoffs.
13? Far from a lock. The Spurs were all time great good and it took a borderline basketball miracle for the Heat to win.

14? Another poor supporting cast facing an all time great Spurs team.

I just don't think any player in NBA history is winning more than 3/6 in the finals given Lebron's supporting cast.

Maybe peak MJ and Kareem win 4 of 6, but we all know those two are better anyway...

[nathanjizzle]

stat nerds.

[sd3035]

He certainly has taken stat padding to the next level :applause:

[Mr. Jabbar]

Are you sure?

Yes.

[HOoopCityJones]

Wilt and Karl Malone are the Goats.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Are you sure?

07 and 15 were basically the two worst supporting casts to ever make the finals. What players are winning with that help?

11? Complete title lock for most all time greats.

12? Not a lock at all. LeBron was transcendent in these playoffs.
13? Far from a lock. The Spurs were all time great good and it took a borderline basketball miracle for the Heat to win.

14? Another poor supporting cast facing an all time great Spurs team.

I just don't think any player in NBA history is winning more than 3/6 in the finals given Lebron's supporting cast.

Maybe peak MJ and Kareem win 4 of 6, but we all know those two are better anyway...
The 07 supporting cast was good
they won on their defensive and rebounding. They were elite at both, top 3 overall rebounding, best offensive or defensive rebounding team cant remember

many alltimers couldve won with that cast against those Spurs. Their margin of victory was 5points a game, they won the last 2 games by a combined 4pts AT cleveland. And this was all with Bran having one of the worst finals of alltime averaging 22pts on 35/20/69 shooting splits 42TS% and 6 turnovers a game

[KungFuJoe]

I'll admit that Lebron is a better player than Kobe...overall. But, what Kobe has is that killer instinct. That will to win...that "give me the ball" when the game is on the line.

He might not have been the clutchest guy when it came to making that last shot, but he never, EVER, shied away from the moment.

Lebron, on the other hand, as great as he is...is just lacking that killer instinct. Yeah, he's more efficient and he makes other players better...but he just doesn't have that special something to get his team over the edge. He gets close enough, but then chokes in the final moment.

Yes, he gets credit for getting to the Finals, but look at what he needed to actually win. An absolutely stacked team and even then he had to get bailed out by Ray Allen.

Lebron chokes in ways that are cringeworthy. He actually plays like a complete scrub at times when it's crunch time. It's a strange dichotomy that he can be so absolutely dominating for most of the game, putting up insane stats, and then just completely crawl into his shell at the end. But, it comes down to his mental state. The insecurity, the primadonna attitude, the flopping. He has no shame...no pride. Just ego. And it's a very fragile one.

[Straight_Ballin]

Bron had a team good enough to get him to the finals 6 times and all he has to show for it is 2 rings. He's 2/6, simple as that. No excuses. He just simply doesn't have the will to win like Jordan did. The only time Jordan didn't win is when his team wasn't good enough to make it to the finals.

Bron will never win without wade, and that is where his story comes to a close.

[NBASTATMAN]

Career Kobe by a bit IMO.. I would take PEAK Lebron over Peak Kobe cuz he was just better when you look at how good he once was defensively :rockon:

[nzahir]

who cares... lebron has stat padded in that weak conference all his life, if his numbers were real and not inflated, he wouldn't be 2/6. :banana:
You know his stats are almost identical, better actually in many areas, when playing west teams. Eastern teams also have better defensive teams most of the time so it is harder to stat pad in the east and easier to stat pad in the west. Example (phoenix suns of nash era and clippers of today)

[Kvnzhangyay]

Bron had a team good enough to get him to the finals 6 times and all he has to show for it is 2 rings. He's 2/6, simple as that. No excuses. He just simply doesn't have the will to win like Jordan did. The only time Jordan didn't win is when his team wasn't good enough to make it to the finals.

Bron will never win without wade, and that is where his story comes to a close.

No, his team was only good enough to be in the finals because of the Leastern conference

[dubeta]

Damn, not only does lebron have much better stats, he also has the better head-to-head record :applause:

[branslowski]

Kobe more points All-Time
More All-Defensive Teams
More All-NBA Teams
More All-Star MVPs
More NBA TITLES with Same amount of Finals MVPs
More Points All-Time in Playoffs
More Stls All-Time in Playoffs.

Kobe the better player to watch....More skilled, post game, mid-range exc.. Better on-Ball Defender. Better Killer instinct...And Kobe going 1 on 1 in single coverage getting 33 shots a game??? Would do way better than his 35ppg on 27 shots for a season....Kobe with 33fga would average 45ppg at the least.

/

[dubeta]

Kobe more points All-Time
More All-Defensive Teams
More All-NBA Teams
More All-Star MVPs
More NBA TITLES with Same amount of Finals MVPs
More Points All-Time in Playoffs
More Stls All-Time in Playoffs.




So longevity awards for playing 7 more seasons than lebron? :rolleyes:

Damn not very bright, are you?

[Mr. Jabbar]

Kobe more points All-Time
More All-Defensive Teams
More All-NBA Teams
More All-Star MVPs
More NBA TITLES with Same amount of Finals MVPs
More Points All-Time in Playoffs
More Stls All-Time in Playoffs.

Kobe the better player to watch....More skilled, post game, mid-range exc.. Better on-Ball Defender. Better Killer instinct...And Kobe going 1 on 1 in single coverage getting 33 shots a game??? Would do way better than his 35ppg on 27 shots for a season....Kobe with 33fga would average 45ppg at the least.

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add 81 pts, something lebron could only do with 100 fga and 70 free throws :applause:

[Da_Realist]

Lebron beats kobe in:
Ppg
Fg%
3pt%
Rpb
Apg
Steals
Blocks

Kobe beats lebron in:
FT%
Tov

I am just comparing the standard stats.

Stats seem to be the one thing Lebron fans care about because it seems to be what Lebron himself mostly cares about.

[branslowski]

So longevity awards for playing 7 more seasons than lebron? :rolleyes:

Damn not very bright, are you?

In a CAREER COMPARISON, you usually compare whole Careers, not discount part of a resume because a player didn't play as long as another player....Reggie Miller played longer than Bron, yet i'd place LeBron above him. Your butthurt cries hold no water. Nice try though.

[BBallZen83]

Lebron beats kobe in:
Ppg
Fg%
3pt%
Rpb
Apg
Steals
Blocks

Kobe beats lebron in:
FT%
Tov

I am just comparing the standard stats.

I would say that the points per game are skewed in favor of Lebron because he came into the league as the man. He immediately needed to be the main scorer on Cleveland because they sucked. With Kobe. He came into the league on the bench, and didn't really move into his role as we know it until the 2nd championship. Stats are still stats, but I feel it gives a disadvantage to Kobe.

Overall this just shows what I think is most obvious to people who aren't internet trolls. Lebron is the better all around player, and even though stats don't necessarily show it, Kobe is the much better offensive player. He just has a better shot, more moves, and better footwork. I can be a Lebron fan, and still recognize the obvious. Kobe's game is more pretty. It's in the vein of Jordan, but then again that is initially what irked me about Kobe. He tried to imitate Jordan too hard.

Anyways, I think that these opinions are what a reasonable Lebron fan should have, just as a reasonable Kobe fan shouldn't go around posting crap like Kenneth and Jabbar (although, I think Jabbar does it more for the laughs than out of personal conviction).

[knicksman]

I'll admit that Lebron is a better player than Kobe...overall. But, what Kobe has is that killer instinct. That will to win...that "give me the ball" when the game is on the line.

He might not have been the clutchest guy when it came to making that last shot, but he never, EVER, shied away from the moment.

Lebron, on the other hand, as great as he is...is just lacking that killer instinct. Yeah, he's more efficient and he makes other players better...but he just doesn't have that special something to get his team over the edge. He gets close enough, but then chokes in the final moment.

Yes, he gets credit for getting to the Finals, but look at what he needed to actually win. An absolutely stacked team and even then he had to get bailed out by Ray Allen.

Lebron chokes in ways that are cringeworthy. He actually plays like a complete scrub at times when it's crunch time. It's a strange dichotomy that he can be so absolutely dominating for most of the game, putting up insane stats, and then just completely crawl into his shell at the end. But, it comes down to his mental state. The insecurity, the primadonna attitude, the flopping. He has no shame...no pride. Just ego. And it's a very fragile one.

Actually the will to win is what made kobe to be better. Hes not contented for easy shots like layups so he goes for more(contested fade aways). He doesnt want to be fraud like bran who misrepresent his stats by taking only layups. So thats why during crunch time, its kobe who delivers coz hes battle tested while bran isnt. Thus 2/6 and 5/7

[red1]

Kobe more points All-Time
More All-Defensive Teams
More All-NBA Teams
More All-Star MVPs
More NBA TITLES with Same amount of Finals MVPs
More Points All-Time in Playoffs
More Stls All-Time in Playoffs.

Kobe the better player to watch....More skilled, post game, mid-range exc.. Better on-Ball Defender. Better Killer instinct...And Kobe going 1 on 1 in single coverage getting 33 shots a game??? Would do way better than his 35ppg on 27 shots for a season....Kobe with 33fga would average 45ppg at the least.

/
look at this retard listing all-time stats :roll:

[Rocketswin2013]

I would say that the points per game are skewed in favor of Lebron because he came into the league as the man. He immediately needed to be the main scorer on Cleveland because they sucked. With Kobe. He came into the league on the bench, and didn't really move into his role as we know it until the 2nd championship. Stats are still stats, but I feel it gives a disadvantage to Kobe.

Overall this just shows what I think is most obvious to people who aren't internet trolls. Lebron is the better all around player, and even though stats don't necessarily show it, Kobe is the much better offensive player. He just has a better shot, more moves, and better footwork. I can be a Lebron fan, and still recognize the obvious. Kobe's game is more pretty. It's in the vein of Jordan, but then again that is initially what irked me about Kobe. He tried to imitate Jordan too hard.

Anyways, I think that these opinions are what a reasonable Lebron fan should have, just as a reasonable Kobe fan shouldn't go around posting crap like Kenneth and Jabbar (although, I think Jabbar does it more for the laughs than out of personal conviction).
Much better offensive player? Absolutely not even close to true. The scoring is close, LeBron is more efficient, LeBron gets a lot more assists.

[branslowski]

look at this retard listing all-time stats :roll:

Careeeeeeer= All-timeeeeeee stupid :coleman:

[red1]

Careeeeeeer= All-timeeeeeee stupid :coleman:
malone>mj and kobe?

[Magic 32]

13? Far from a lock. The Spurs were all time great good and it took a borderline basketball miracle for the Heat to win.


And if you remember that miracle was not Lebron.

[red1]

And if you remember that miracle was not Lebron.
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[branslowski]

malone>mj and kobe?

No????

[red1]

No????
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career.html

[STATUTORY]

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Kobe doubled covered at the three point line freeing up 2 other teammates

:applause: :applause:

mean while Lebron being left wide open by steph and iggy throughout hte entire finals

bran fans can only read spreadsheets cant actually understand the game

[dubeta]

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[KiiiiNG]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career.html
rest in peace

[red1]

Kobe doubled covered at the three point line freeing up 2 other teammates

:applause: :applause:

mean while Lebron being left wide open by steph and iggy throughout hte entire finals

bran fans can only read spreadsheets cant actually understand the game
if ray allen was a bailout then so was this. bronzegod brought his team back from a 10-point deficit meanwhile 6 for 24

[STATUTORY]

if ray allen was a bailout then so was this. bronzegod brought his team back from a 10-point deficit meanwhile 6 for 24

thanks for the visual evidence that Kobe is always doubled at the three point line while Lebron is literally left open like he's a leper anywhere outside the paint

[dubeta]

Holy shit, Kobe stans had their 1 week of euphoria, and now came crashing back to earth. Heavy dose of rat poison administered by red1 :applause:

[Droid101]

Kobe doubled covered at the three point line freeing up 2 other teammates

:applause: :applause:

mean while Lebron being left wide open by steph and iggy throughout hte entire finals

bran fans can only read spreadsheets cant actually understand the game
Bingo.

[red1]

thanks for the visual evidence that Kobe is always doubled at the three point line while Lebron is literally left open like he's a leper anywhere outside the paint
so? bron drive game so deadly they have to defend him like that. shaq couldn't shoot period but he is better than kobe as well

[Andrei89]

Of course Lebron is better. I dont understand why after all this time, people still argue about this.

He can go 2 for 9 and he still better than Kobe.

Since Kobe fans love hypothetical so much, this is my opinion :

Give Lebron the exact same teams as Kobe and vice versa

-Lebron probably 4-peats with Shaq ( although Shaq would be the better player), then wins 2008,2009 and 2010 probably. Not too mention when he gets Dwight, Nash, Gasol, Artest team he probably wins again.

-Meanwhile Kobe does not win fir sure against the Pistons in 2007, and perhaps wins in 2011 ( because Lebron choked really hard in that final), but then does not win against OKC or Spurs twice for sure.

[branslowski]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career.html

:facepalm

If your're comparing LeBron and Kobe CURRENTLY as of today who's the best in the league, then yes LeBron is better and you can't use Kobe's career Resume...But if you are comparing them ALL-TIME then you use both players CAREER RESUME. WTF is wrong with you dumba$$ f*cking posters???:biggums:

[Phong]

if ray allen was a bailout then so was this. bronzegod brought his team back from a 10-point deficit meanwhile 6 for 24Don't you realize that the Lakers already had the lead and Kobe made the pass to Artest?

LeBron shot a brick, stood there while Bosh rebounded, passed to Allen who made the shot.

[Beastmode88]

http://i.imgur.com/FbU8RMw.jpg

[red1]

Of course Lebron is better. I dont understand why after all this time, people still argue about this.

He can go 2 for 9 and he still better than Kobe.

Since Kobe fans love hypothetical so much, this is my opinion :

Give Lebron the exact same teams as Kobe and vice versa

-Lebron probably 4-peats with Shaq ( although Shaq would be the better player), then wins 2008,2009 and 2010 probably. Not too mention when he gets Dwight, Nash, Gasol, Artest team he probably wins again.

-Meanwhile Kobe does not win fir sure against the Pistons in 2007, and perhaps wins in 2011 ( because Lebron choked really hard in that final), but then does not win against OKC or Spurs twice for sure.
exactly :applause:

[TheCorporation]

Are you sure?

07 and 15 were basically the two worst supporting casts to ever make the finals. What players are winning with that help?

11? Complete title lock for most all time greats.

12? Not a lock at all. LeBron was transcendent in these playoffs.
13? Far from a lock. The Spurs were all time great good and it took a borderline basketball miracle for the Heat to win.

14? Another poor supporting cast facing an all time great Spurs team.

I just don't think any player in NBA history is winning more than 3/6 in the finals given Lebron's supporting cast.

Maybe peak MJ and Kareem win 4 of 6, but we all know those two are better anyway...

Couldn't have said it any better

07 & 15 no one is winning. Just not happening. LBJ wasn't even lucky enough to somehow get paired up against a weak team. It was the 07 Freakin' Spurs & the 67-win MVP Curry/Iggy led Warriors.

As for 11' that title was a lock to win and easily LBJ's fault.
12' and 13 are tough years for anyone to win. LBJ did things we've never seen in NBA playoffs history.

-Only team in NBA history to be down in a series 3 times in a row and win the Finals (Pacers, Boston, Thunder)

-Only player in NBA history to average 30-10-5 on 50% during a playoff run to win the Championship. It's only happened one time, and it probably won't happen again for a long time unless LeBron himself does it again.

As for 2014, well...Spurs were playing at a high level and Bron's cast disappeared.

2014 Finals (Miami Heat)
LeBron James: 28-8-4 with 2 spg (57% FG)

How the hell can you blame him for that? I'd like to see if anyone else in modern NBA ever lost an NBA Finals while averaging 28-8-4- with 2 spg and 57% FG! I highly doubt it. I'm curious to see how many players could even put up 28 ppg on 57% against an elite defensive team while being guarded by the DPOY...I'll wait.

Bron's next 3 to help with the offensive load?

Wade, Bosh and Allen

Wade 15 ppg on 44%
Bosh 14 ppg on 55%
Allen 10 ppg on 41%

Battier, Chalmers, Douglas, and Cole were a combined 3/20 from 3-point land. Now, we don't expect them to hit them all, but they are pretty regularly 40% 3-point shooters, but during the Finals they combined for 15%

Spurs Patty Mills shot 13/23 (57%) from 3-point land
Spurs Danny Green was 9/20 (45%)
Leonard was 11/19 (58%)

I can guarantee Patty Mills will never go 13/23 in the Finals and Leonard will never go 11/19 in the Finals again.

With Bron's supporting cast, again, I don't think anyone wins in 2014 either. Unless you can somehow manage to best a 28-8-4 2 spg on 57% showing. Doubt it. And even then, Spurs shooters were so hot, you'd probably have to average 40 on good efficiency. Good luck with that vs the 14' Spurs.

So in reality, 07, & 15 locks for a loss for LBJ & anyone else in NBA history(unfortunately) and honestly, I don't think 14' was up for grabs either.

2011 tho...No doubt the top 10 greats would've been able to do enough to best the Mavs, 17-8-7 isn't enough

[TheCorporation]

http://i.imgur.com/FbU8RMw.jpg

If it was so easy then why don't all guards and small forwards continually get over 50% FG?!

[red1]

Don't you realize that the Lakers already had the lead and Kobe made the pass to Artest?

LeBron shot a brick, stood there while Bosh rebounded, passed to Allen who made the shot.
I don't get it? Kobe literally shot more bricks than any other player in history. Fact of the matter is that bron brought them back in that game and closed the series out with one of the GOAT game 7 finals performances to win the series. :applause:

[TheCorporation]

Don't you realize that the Lakers already had the lead and Kobe made the pass to Artest?

LeBron shot a brick, stood there while Bosh rebounded, passed to Allen who made the shot.

LBJ also made the first 3-pointer to cut the deficit to 3. Don't forget that. Oh, and that Ray Allen only tied the game. Heat still had to win that game in OT, which they did. Don't forget all the facts.

[AlphaWolf24]

Wilt Chamberlain career stats> anyone ever..

30PPG 23RPG 4ast 54%FG

no player comes close....


am I doing it Right?

[TheCorporation]

Wilt Chamberlain career stats> anyone ever..

30PPG 23RPG 4ast 54%FG

no player comes close....


am I doing it Right?

Wilt is obviously the exception in this case, mainly because he played in a different era...And is a Center. At least LBJ & Kobe played in the same era (More or less). We aren't comparing a guy from the 60's to a guy from the 2000s. You are...

Also, Wilt was a center, so he would likely have more rebounds and less assists and probably a higher FG%

LeBron is a SF
Kobe is a SG

Much closer comparison in terms of positions in basketball.

[knicksman]

Wilt is obviously the exception in this case, mainly because he played in a different era...And is a Center. At least LBJ & Kobe played in the same era (More or less). We aren't comparing a guy from the 60's to a guy from the 2000s. You are...

Also, Wilt was a center, so he would likely have more rebounds and less assists and probably a higher FG%

LeBron is a SF
Kobe is a SG

Much closer comparison in terms of positions in basketball.

What hes trying to say is dont judge a player based on stats alone but how good his stats is when pressure is at the highest. Or else wilt>jordan if we dont include postseason or bran>kobe if we dont judge them based on how they perform in the clutch. Coz anyone who plays this game knows that its harder to produce in the clutch/postseason. And that explains too why bran/wilt are losers.

[AlphaWolf24]

Wilt is obviously the exception in this case, mainly because he played in a different era...And is a Center. At least LBJ & Kobe played in the same era (More or less). We aren't comparing a guy from the 60's to a guy from the 2000s. You are...

Also, Wilt was a center, so he would likely have more rebounds and less assists and probably a higher FG%

LeBron is a SF
Kobe is a SG

Much closer comparison in terms of positions in basketball.


ok...the weak era argument...( even though he was still putting up 20PPG and 20 reb in the 70's )


( Lebron is 6'9" 250lbs....of solid muscle....his game mostly consists of attacking the lane and using his size and speed to pressure the defense ..point being him and Wilt both relied on Physical strength as the primary offensive weapon...

on the contrary to Kobe Bryant...6'6" 215lbs....who uses more fakes and footwork to create his shot., especially in the high post...

in fact Lebron is more similar to Wilt...especially using the "weak era "excuse....Dude has played in the eastern conference all of his career....against some of the weakest teams in NBA History...

( what was it...like only 8 50 win teams He beat in the postseason)


not detracting from Lebron at all....he is going to get his stats no matter who he plays against....just as Wilt Did......but you can't just blindly say " Wilt Dominated a weak era"...because he was tall or Powerful...

Yao Ming was 6" taller then Shaq and stronger too!...he never Dominated like Wilt....neither did Shawn Bradley who was 7' 8"....or George Murasan or Mark eaton and the list goes on and on.....

Wilt was a special athlete who would prolly dominate in any generation as would Lebron....


- Wilt isn't the exception ....he is the rule....Bigger stronger faster will help a lot!.....that's what Lebron rely's most on..... Kobe doesn't...

so in retrospect....Wilt = Lebron....weak era and all...

[Combat Wombat]

Careeeeeeer= All-timeeeeeee stupid :coleman:

I don't know why any Laker/Kobe fan on this forum even bothers to read red1's posts. The guy is a bitter fakkit supporting a shit franchise.......

..... then again I'd be be bitter as well if the only noteworthy thing to happen to my favourite team in 20 years was getting 81 points dropped on them by Kobe Bryant.

[gts]

But, in clutch time, James faltered. (Clutch time is defined as the last five minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime with the score within five points.)

James missed 14 of his 17 field goals in clutch time during the 2015 Finals, including shots to win in regulation of Game 1 and Game 2. The Cavaliers were outscored in the fourth quarter and overtime in every game but Game 6, when the Warriors had a comfortable lead entering the quarter.

For his career in the Finals, James has shot just under 30 percent in clutch time, which does not compare favorably to the shooting percentages of Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade.




James belongs in the conversation of best guard/wing player ever, yet in a group that also includes Jordan, Bryant, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, only James has a losing Finals record.

In fact, in 12 fewer Finals appearances, James has as many NBA Finals series losses as Jordan, Bryant and Bird combined.

...

[PsychoBe]

...

pure unadulterated ether

[TheCorporation]

...

Now we are comparing teams? lol

Who said 2007 or 2015 Cavs > 96 Bulls? lol

:lol

We are comparing individuals. not teams.

Do we really need to break down the 07 or 15' Cavs Rosters vs 96 Bulls one more time to see which team was better...

[Rose'sACL]

What hes trying to say is dont judge a player based on stats alone but how good his stats is when pressure is at the highest. Or else wilt>jordan if we dont include postseason or bran>kobe if we dont judge them based on how they perform in the clutch. Coz anyone who plays this game knows that its harder to produce in the clutch/postseason. And that explains too why bran/wilt are losers.
but lebron and kobe stats show that lebron is better in the clutch.

[PsychoBe]

but lebron and kobe stats show that lebron is better in the clutch.


But, in clutch time, James faltered. (Clutch time is defined as the last five minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime with the score within five points.)

James missed 14 of his 17 field goals in clutch time during the 2015 Finals, including shots to win in regulation of Game 1 and Game 2. The Cavaliers were outscored in the fourth quarter and overtime in every game but Game 6, when the Warriors had a comfortable lead entering the quarter.

For his career in the Finals, James has shot just under 30 percent in clutch time, which does not compare favorably to the shooting percentages of Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade.

shut the f*ck up.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

The 07 supporting cast was good
they won on their defensive and rebounding. They were elite at both, top 3 overall rebounding, best offensive or defensive rebounding team cant remember

many alltimers couldve won with that cast against those Spurs. Their margin of victory was 5points a game, they won the last 2 games by a combined 4pts AT cleveland. And this was all with Bran having one of the worst finals of alltime averaging 22pts on 35/20/69 shooting splits 42TS% and 6 turnovers a game

:applause:

Can't believe this post was glossed over.

[Magic 32]

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Too bad I'm also talking about the first six games.

[dubeta]

Too bad I'm also talking about the first six games.

Too bad we're referring to the crucial Gm 7 "Win or go home", nothing else matters but that game.

[BigTicket]

:applause:

Can't believe this post was glossed over.

So you're a Spurs fan, but you think the 07 Spurs would have lost to the 07 Cavs with someone else taking Lebron's place ?

That's Duncan/Parker/Ginobili/Bowen coached by Popovich against ?/Hughes/Gooden/Ilgauskas coaching by Mike Brown, and you think the Spurs would lose ?

[Rose'sACL]

shut the f*ck up.
so now we are taking stats only when they favor our side of the argument...... go ahead and post career clutch stats.....i know you wouldn't.

[PsychoBe]

so now we are taking stats only when they favor our side of the argument...... go ahead and post career clutch stats.....i know you wouldn't.

did you just ignore the quote? :facepalm

you bran stans are all the same. stats only matter when they are in bran's favor, if they aren't then let's move the goal posts until they are.

just admit that you're wrong and move on.

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Too bad I'm also talking about the first six games.
now you are just flip-flopping

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