Hypocrisy of the abortion debate

[TripleA]

Pro choice hypocrisy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoHqDOnLHW8&list=PLzrW4BK1DY1uWNjTc-yYtOqkfwHVhfJBx&index=2

Pro life hypocrisy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjFbXR8OA_U&index=3&list=PLzrW4BK1DY1uWNjTc-yYtOqkfwHVhfJBx

THey both have stark hypocrisies on both sides what are guys thoughts.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I am pro choice because there's way too many ****ing people on this planet, and there's no room (or usually a good home) for people who are born to parents who did not want a child

[DeuceWallaces]

What is the hypocrisy of choice?

[NumberSix]

What is the hypocrisy of choice?
The hypocrisy of screaming about "don't tell me what to do with MY body" while simultaneously believing you have the authority to cut the head off of an unborn person's body.

[DeuceWallaces]

It's connected to and inside her body; hence no hypocrisy.

[KyrieTheFuture]

If we are alive immediately at contraception, why aren't we 9 months old when we're born?

[TripleA]

the guy in the video says that pro choice people want government control of people but want the choice for things they want.
while pro life want no death of fetuses but support death penalty and other
stances that lower welfare for those babies of poor families.

[Akrazotile]

If we are alive immediately at contraception, why aren't we 9 months old when we're born?


You are technically nine months old at that point.

However your BIRTH DATE will *typically* end up being, you know, on the date of your BIRTH.

[TripleA]

good points:applause:

[KyrieTheFuture]

You are technically nine months old at that point.

However your BIRTH DATE will *typically* end up being, you know, on the date of your BIRTH.
I know, I just think it's a funny way that we handle things. Specially because eastern asian cultures (mainly china but popular elsewhere) have a system where children are born 1 year old

[joe]

There is no correct choice on abortion honestly. Both sides have really valid points. If you cant see that both sides have valid points, you lack the ability to think objectively. Imo.

[Sarcastic]

the guy in the video says that pro choice people want government control of people but want the choice for things they want.
while pro life want no death of fetuses but support death penalty and other
stances that lower welfare for those babies of poor families.

Pro choice people do not want government control of people. No one in the world wants government to control them.

[KNOW1EDGE]

There is no correct choice on abortion honestly. Both sides have really valid points. If you cant see that both sides have valid points, you lack the ability to think objectively. Imo.

Pretty much this.

Altho I am Def pro-life

[GimmeThat]

pro life people are blinded, therefore they allow ignorant behavior to exist

pro choice sees, but they lack, which then tries to justify oneself, on research


time of initiation all of a sudden matters

[NumberSix]

It's connected to and inside her body; hence no hypocrisy.
So, I guess you would have no problem with someone not allowing gays in their privately owned business.

[Dresta]

Laughing at the clowns so ideologically indoctrinated that they can't even recognise the most blatant case of a conflict of rights, with no easy or simple solution being available.

Funny how people think going the way of the Soviet Union (more abortions than live births, abortions used as a means of backstop contraception), is some great leap forward for progress and morality. As if such a severe loss in personal control and self-restraint were good things that boded well for our civilisation. It is killing another human being to make your life easier and more convenient; there is nothing moral about that, whatsoever; the fact people now feel comfortable justifying it without the merest quibble, really shows how disgusting and nefarious it has become, and how frivolously the subject has been treated, by ideological imbeciles who think the only thing that matters in human life is pain. Oh, no, that's not a unique, individual human life, it's just some blob of irrelevant goo inside a woman - it can't feel us killing it, so that makes it ok (and these are the idiots who laugh at others for deriving their morality from religion, while, only a generation or so removed from said religion, and they're already cheering on the massacre of babies :lol); it's not like its DNA is set (unique, and rather unlikely to ever be replicated), and most of its features already determined shortly after conception now, is it? Oh wait...

It requires some serious mental gymnastics for someone to convince themselves of the moral rightness of abortion, and that it is anything other than making your own life more convenient at the expense of another.

[Dresta]

So, I guess you would have no problem with someone not allowing gays in their privately owned business.
Nah - that would be immoral.

:yaohappy:

[UK2K]

Pro choice people do not want government control of people. No one in the world wants government to control them.

Thats not true at all. If it were, people wouldn't spend their entire lives on welfare. Nothing like depending on the government to simply exist.

I think there needs to be a cut off point, early in the pregnancy.

Cause I see things like this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/10/woman-charged-with-murder-didnt-have-any-money-to-get-an-abortion-the-legal-way-brother-says/

Some woman having her third child, who already gave the first one away, attempting to back alley abort her child, and it comes out alive. Then dies half an hour later.

I just think we need to enact legislation punishing those who have several kids and just keep giving them away. Don't try to say 'Republicans wont let them have birth control' because not only is it not true, a condom cost about $1.39 at your local Quick-E-Mart.

Then I see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3e41prVDv4

And want to vomit. "Somebody owes me for me having these 15 kids". Only in America.

[UK2K]

Laughing at the clowns so ideologically indoctrinated that they can't even recognise the most blatant case of a conflict of rights, with no easy or simple solution being available.

Funny how people think going the way of the Soviet Union (more abortions than live births, abortions used as a means of backstop contraception), is some great leap forward for progress and morality. As if such a severe loss in personal control and self-restraint were good things that boded well for our civilisation. It is killing another human being to make your life easier and more convenient; there is nothing moral about that, whatsoever; the fact people now feel comfortable justifying it without the merest quibble, really shows how disgusting and nefarious it has become, and how frivolously the subject has been treated, by ideological imbeciles who think the only thing that matters in human life is pain. Oh, no, that's not a unique, individual human life, it's just some blob of irrelevant goo inside a woman - it can't feel us killing it, so that makes it ok (and these are the idiots who laugh at others for deriving their morality from religion, while, only a generation or so removed from said religion, and they're already cheering on the massacre of babies :lol); it's not like its DNA is set (unique, and rather unlikely to ever be replicated), and most of its features already determined shortly after conception now, is it? Oh wait...

It requires some serious mental gymnastics for someone to convince themselves of the moral rightness of abortion, and that it is anything other than making your own life more convenient at the expense of another.

America 2015. Blame someone else for your problems. Its never your fault.

Come on now, where you been?

[Droid101]

So, I guess you would have no problem with someone not allowing gays in their privately owned business.
You can do anything you want with a private club.

You cannot do anything you want with a business open to the public.

A woman's body is not open to the public by any definition of the word.

Once again, you are being stupidly obtuse on purpose just to troll an internet message board.

Well done.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Laughing at the clowns so ideologically indoctrinated that they can't even recognise the most blatant case of a conflict of rights, with no easy or simple solution being available.

Funny how people think going the way of the Soviet Union (more abortions than live births, abortions used as a means of backstop contraception), is some great leap forward for progress and morality. As if such a severe loss in personal control and self-restraint were good things that boded well for our civilisation. It is killing another human being to make your life easier and more convenient; there is nothing moral about that, whatsoever; the fact people now feel comfortable justifying it without the merest quibble, really shows how disgusting and nefarious it has become, and how frivolously the subject has been treated, by ideological imbeciles who think the only thing that matters in human life is pain. Oh, no, that's not a unique, individual human life, it's just some blob of irrelevant goo inside a woman - it can't feel us killing it, so that makes it ok (and these are the idiots who laugh at others for deriving their morality from religion, while, only a generation or so removed from said religion, and they're already cheering on the massacre of babies :lol); it's not like its DNA is set (unique, and rather unlikely to ever be replicated), and most of its features already determined shortly after conception now, is it? Oh wait...

It requires some serious mental gymnastics for someone to convince themselves of the moral rightness of abortion, and that it is anything other than making your own life more convenient at the expense of another.
I would say most of the time someone is killed it's to make people's lives easier. Whether it's your own or your countrymen.

[Cactus-Sack]

:hammerhead:

The correct choice is to let people decide for themselves, thus pro choice.
I agree, let the baby decide whether the dumb whore who created it can kill it or not

[Cactus-Sack]

You can do anything you want with a private club.

You cannot do anything you want with a business open to the public.

A woman's body is not open to the public by any definition of the word.

Once again, you are being stupidly obtuse on purpose just to troll an internet message board.

Well done.
They dumb whores who conceive children unintentionally have apparently opened their bodies to the public.

[Norcaliblunt]

The question is whether the federal government should prohibit it or not? Of course it's ****ed up.

I do find this fake compassion for unborn fetuses weird though. Once they are born these people are like you and your family should go **** yourselves Lol.