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niko
06-25-2015, 09:25 AM
I've always known the math doesn't work but this article was kind enough to explain how..

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/5/8/8574309/heres-how-the-spurs-can-sign-lamarcus-aldridge-while-also-bringing

Basically you'd either need to gut the team (including maybe Splitter) or have Duncan play for nothing (like $1m). Good luck on that.

PejaNowitzki
06-25-2015, 09:36 AM
Popovich is a Jedi master son.

niko
06-25-2015, 09:40 AM
Popovich is a Jedi master son.
Jedi masters control minds. This is math. The math don't work.

Yoda
06-25-2015, 10:07 AM
Popovich is a Jedi master son.

Trained him I did.

Spurs5Rings2014
06-25-2015, 10:18 AM
Jedi masters control minds. This is math. The math don't work.

Pop can get that fat piece of shit Tony Parker to take a pay cut if he wants to continue being carried to rings by the GOAT.

:banghead:

niko
06-25-2015, 10:26 AM
Pop can get that fat piece of shit Tony Parker to take a pay cut if he wants to continue being carried to rings by the GOAT.

:banghead:
Pay cuts aren't allowed under CBA and he's not a free agent. Essentially, if you want to cut Duncan/Gino and then get someone to take Splitter's salary you can do the Aldridge signing.

If the Knicks were trying to do this same signing every ESPN guy would be a cap guru massacreing them but since it's the Spurs everyone ignores the math. Math don't lie.

Spurs5Rings2014
06-25-2015, 10:29 AM
Math, smath. Everything will work out, you'll see.

:pimp:

Carbine
06-25-2015, 10:48 AM
This article assumes Danny Green has to be re signed and therefor his cap hold still on the books.

That was never the plan with regards to getting Aldridge or Gasol.

niko
06-25-2015, 11:14 AM
This article assumes Danny Green has to be re signed and therefor his cap hold still on the books.

That was never the plan with regards to getting Aldridge or Gasol.
It also assumes paying Duncan $1M and Manu $1M. So remove Green and pay Duncan his $8M (which it will cost) and it's same issue. It's not like without Green this all works great.

Carbine
06-25-2015, 11:41 AM
It also assumes paying Duncan $1M and Manu $1M. So remove Green and pay Duncan his $8M (which it will cost) and it's same issue. It's not like without Green this all works great.

Its not complicated at all really. They could trade Splitter and open up the space needed for Duncan. They are already shopping Spliter it appears. His contract is very tradeable.

Duncan isnt going to demand a certain number. If the difference between getting a guy like Aldridge is Duncan having a 4 mill salary vs 8.... He will take the 4 mill.

He knows he will be taken care of financially after he retires by the Spurs much like Dirk will who signed for 8 mil last year.

niko
06-25-2015, 11:45 AM
Its not complicated at all really. They could trade Splitter and open up the space needed for Duncan. They are already shopping Spliter it appears. His contract is very tradeable.

Duncan isnt going to demand a certain number. If the difference between getting a guy like Aldridge is Duncan having a 4 mill salary vs 8.... He will take the 4 mill.

He knows he will be taken care of financially after he retires by the Spurs much like Dirk will who signed for 8 mil last year.
Duncan's not signing for $4M. $4M vs. $8M is a big difference. that would honestly be ****ed up if the Spurs suggested that. I'd lose a lot of respect for them. After he gives them cap friendly contracts they ask him to bend over and take another one for the team?

Carbine
06-25-2015, 11:54 AM
Duncan's not signing for $4M. $4M vs. $8M is a big difference. that would honestly be ****ed up if the Spurs suggested that. I'd lose a lot of respect for them. After he gives them cap friendly contracts they ask him to bend over and take another one for the team?

It probably wont be that low im just saying Duncan wont have a set number "or else."

I would guess he ultimately gets 5 or 6 million, if Aldridge is a spur.

PejaNowitzki
06-25-2015, 11:57 AM
It probably wont be that low im just saying Duncan wont have a set number "or else."

I would guess he ultimately gets 5 or 6 million, if Aldridge is a spur.


If Aldridge really wants to be a Spur, they'll find the way to make the money work, the question is whether he really does want to commit to them knowing that within a year, Duncan, Ginobili and even Popovich could all bounce on them.

Carbine
06-25-2015, 11:59 AM
If Aldridge really wants to be a Spur, they'll find the way to make the money work, the question is whether he really does want to commit to them knowing that within a year, Duncan, Ginobili and even Popovich could all bounce on them.

He will sign a two year with player option for third year wherever he goes to take advantage of the higher cap.

BuffaloBill
06-25-2015, 01:00 PM
This article assumes Danny Green has to be re signed and therefor his cap hold still on the books.

That was never the plan with regards to getting Aldridge or Gasol.



This.

The article OP posted is only assuming that the Spurs resign Green, which may or may not happen. Other teams will throw big numbers at Green, a lot more than he made less season which the Spurs may not be willing to match or best.


It has also been noted that the Spurs are actively shopping Tiago Splitter.


regarding Duncan/Ginobili

There are several NBA player personnel executives who believe the Spurs will offer Duncan a two-year contract that begins between $6 million and $7 million, with a partial guarantee and a player option in the second season.

If Duncan doesn’t exercise the option, he gets, say, 50 percent of that season’s salary. In effect, his salary for next season would remain over $10 million, the partially guaranteed portion of the second season’s salary remaining on the Spurs team salary after the cap explodes with the NBA’s new TV money kicking in for 2016-17.

“You can call it a ‘wink-wink’ deal if you want to,” said an Eastern Conference team executive.” It’s what they did with (Antonio) McDyess, so why not for Duncan.”

Duncan’s cap hold is slightly more than $15.5 million so such a two-year deal would drop their team salary by more than $8 million.



In other words, if the Spurs and LaMarcus want this to happen, it will work. Simply put.

niko
06-25-2015, 01:04 PM
It's not happening. Even with Duncan at the lower salary it's a stretch. SA isn't going to dismantle it's team this offseason to the point it can offer market and Aldridge isn't going to spurn everyone else to wait till they do. See Houston last year and how well the dismantling and making people wait scenario works.

BuffaloBill
06-25-2015, 01:14 PM
It's not happening. Even with Duncan at the lower salary it's a stretch. SA isn't going to dismantle it's team this offseason to the point it can offer market and Aldridge isn't going to spurn everyone else to wait till they do. See Houston last year and how well the dismantling and making people wait scenario works.


It's not about dismantling the team. The Spurs are shopping Splitter regardless. and Danny Green/Cojo/Diaw/Mills/Ginobili (Green mainly, because of how strong other teams are coming on to him) leaving are ultimately up to them and not the Spurs Front Office.


And Aldridge wouldn't be waiting, If the Spurs shop Splitter it will be in the draft, and Aldridge won't be able to negotiate with teams until July 1. In this scenario there is no waiting involved. If anything the Spurs would be waiting on LMA, not the other way around.


Also after the season, Pop mentioned the Spurs will be making "big changes" to the roster this offseason.

So I guess just wait and see :banana:

Alamо
07-01-2015, 02:11 PM
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Alamо
07-04-2015, 04:07 PM
That's how

BuffaloBill
07-06-2015, 05:24 PM
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SCdac
07-06-2015, 05:33 PM
this dude been ISHating on the Spurs for like 10 years now :oldlol:

jaydacris
07-09-2015, 11:35 AM
WHERE DA FVCK YOU AT OP

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Chief Keef
07-09-2015, 03:57 PM
WHERE DA FVCK YOU AT OP

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lol get his ass