The Rockets WILL make moves

[UK2K]

Morey on that 2K shit. He loves draft day more than Christmas.

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 11m11 minutes ago
Indicative of Houston's plans to get off money, word is both Terrence Jones and Rockets' No. 18 pick in first round are both very available

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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1h1 hour ago
Hearing ever-aggressive Rockets are plotting ways to try to crash this summer's free-agent chases for both Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1h1 hour ago
Cap space is not Houston's friend at the moment, but word is they will try to get in the mix for both Love and Aldridge as Rockets often do

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1h1 hour ago
To that end also hearing that the Rockets are likely to try to trade Terrence Jones as part of today's draft proceedings

[Rocketswin2013]

I'd be surprised.

[Euroleague]

And they are also giving Sergio Llull 3 years and $24 million.... That info originally traces back to this same clown - if you actually follow the bread crumbs.

[r15mohd]

damn...that would be crazy if they landed LMA

D12
LMA
Ariza
Harden
Beverly

crazy squad

[r15mohd]

wonder what happens to Josh Smith :confusedshrug: who's after him?

[LoveTheNBA23]

damn...that would be crazy if they landed LMA

D12
LMA
Ariza
Harden
Beverly

crazy squad

Ariza, D12 and Harden take up 46M alone. With the cap holds included, Rockets would have to trade away one of them plus most of their other guaranteed contracts to make room for Aldridge. Don't see this happening.

[Charlie Sheen]

Reading twitters yesterday and this morning...those late first round picks are becoming really undesirable to a majority of teams. Teams looking to spend that money on a rotational piece not guarantee money to some 20 year old that's a longshot to contribute anything over those first 2 years

[chocolatethunder]

Making moves for that second round exit.

[Rocketswin2013]

Making moves for that second round exit.
:rolleyes:

[bobopenguin]

have dwight and josh practise their FT then u guys are all good.

[JerrySeinfeld]

This isn't news, they do this every offseason.

Will be a 2nd round exit for them next year, teams with zero chemistry that just go after big names every year never succeed.

[kshutts1]

Would have to be a S&T unless Morey finds a ton of takers for contracts.

Because even if Houston renounces all of its FA to get rid of cap holds, and waive all non-guaranteed contracts, they still won't have enough free space to sign Aldridge outright to the max.

I counted, in my head so not super accurate, about 60m on the books. That leaves about 7m in space. Salary dump Ariza and Papanikolaou together (easy) and T Jones, and that gives you another 15m.

Now you have just barely enough for a max contract. But how will you fill out the roster? Beverley would have to take the exception to come back because renouncing his rights takes away his Bird Rights, and then you're relying on Brewer to be the starting SF. If you salary dump Brewer instead of Papa, it's monetarily the same thing, but teams are a lot less likely to take that one, IMO.

Now, if Aldridge is accepting less than the max....

[UK2K]

Reading twitters yesterday and this morning...those late first round picks are becoming really undesirable to a majority of teams. Teams looking to spend that money on a rotational piece not guarantee money to some 20 year old that's a longshot to contribute anything over those first 2 years

Daryl Morey has figured that out long ago.

That's why he values 2nd round picks over 1st rounders (minus the high lottos obviously).

[UK2K]

Would have to be a S&T unless Morey finds a ton of takers for contracts.

Because even if Houston renounces all of its FA to get rid of cap holds, and waive all non-guaranteed contracts, they still won't have enough free space to sign Aldridge outright to the max.

I counted, in my head so not super accurate, about 60m on the books. That leaves about 7m in space. Salary dump Ariza and Papanikolaou together (easy) and T Jones, and that gives you another 15m.

Now you have just barely enough for a max contract. But how will you fill out the roster? Beverley would have to take the exception to come back because renouncing his rights takes away his Bird Rights, and then you're relying on Brewer to be the starting SF. If you salary dump Brewer instead of Papa, it's monetarily the same thing, but teams are a lot less likely to take that one, IMO.

Now, if Aldridge is accepting less than the max....

Dwight - 22m
Harden - 16m
Ariza - 8m
Total 46m

Brewer- is not expect to accept his PO but if he does, 5m
Paps - 5m, he will no doubt be traded

Rest of the guys (Jones expected to be traded)- 7m

If Brewer, Jones, and Paps are gone, that leaves Houston with about 51m on the books assuming they take back no salary (unlikely but for the sake of argument).

If it was about money, he'd stay in Portland. I think Aldridge could see the value in playing in this lineup

Beverley
Harden
Ariza
Aldridge
Dwight

That's nasty.

[Genaro]

Houston seems to get after everybody on FA every year.

[kshutts1]

A player in the twilight of his career taking a massive paycut? Reasonable.

A player in his prime, that is clearly a top 15 player in the league? Possible, but ultimately VERY unlikely.

Even Lebron, Wade, Bosh, who all "famously" took paycuts, accepted "only" 2-3m less per year.

Aldridge to sign with Houston without anything ridiculous happening would be about 10m. That would HAVE to be a one year deal, with some sort of illegal guarantee that he gets the full max next year with the rise in the cap.

[SwishSquared]

So, could we see T-Jones + Papanikolao + #18 + a second rounder as a basis for a S&T for LMA or Love? Maybe Houston lets Beverly walk or renounces his rights.

[longtime lurker]

And Rockets will fail like last year. Chris Bosh and Parsons ring a bell? No one in their right mind is trading LMA or Love for Ariza.

[UK2K]

And Rockets will fail like last year. Chris Bosh and Parsons ring a bell? No one in their right mind is trading LMA or Love for Ariza.
Making the WCF is a fail?

Technically everyone failed but GS.

Ariza isnt going anywhere. Outside Harden and Dwight, he's probably the least likely to be moved.

Oh, and Parsons is garb.

[Kobe_6/8]

A player in the twilight of his career taking a massive paycut? Reasonable.

A player in his prime, that is clearly a top 15 player in the league? Possible, but ultimately VERY unlikely.

Even Lebron, Wade, Bosh, who all "famously" took paycuts, accepted "only" 2-3m less per year.

Aldridge to sign with Houston without anything ridiculous happening would be about 10m. That would HAVE to be a one year deal, with some sort of illegal guarantee that he gets the full max next year with the rise in the cap.

This. The NBAPA won't let him take a massive paycut to be with the Rockets, it sets a bad precedent for future players.

[UK2K]

This. The NBAPA won't let him take a massive paycut to be with the Rockets, it sets a bad precedent for future players.
He wouldn't be.

[longtime lurker]

Making the WCF is a fail?

Technically everyone failed but GS.

Ariza isnt going anywhere. Outside Harden and Dwight, he's probably the least likely to be moved.

Oh, and Parsons is garb.

Then you don't have capspace to sign any of these players or salary to match in a trade.

[KiiiiNG]

Making the WCF is a fail?

Technically everyone failed but GS.

Ariza isnt going anywhere. Outside Harden and Dwight, he's probably the least likely to be moved.

Oh, and Parsons is garb.
hes saying yall will fail in free agency like last year when you tried to get bosh..

[Jameerthefear]

Hope Orlando picks up T-Jones or their picks

[SwishSquared]

Now Stein is saying that the asking price is higher for Jones & #18. Might be smokescreen but do you think Morey would take a pick in the 31-35 range for Papanikolao/Jones/#18?

[UK2K]

Now Stein is saying that the asking price is higher for Jones & #18. Might be smokescreen but do you think Morey would take a pick in the 31-35 range for Papanikolao/Jones/#18?

Looking at the numbers, as the guy up ^^there^^ said, there is practically no way Houston can make a push for Aldrdige (I see Love's name in the mix too) without trading away Ariza.

To be honest, I'd rather not. I know Miami was able to play three stars and a bunch of nobodies (minus Ray, he saved them), but you need a team.

If getting Aldridge means we sacrifice our entire depth, I'm not for it.

HOWEVER, there is an upside. Houston could make a move for Aldridge (or Love) and when the cap bumps up to $89m next year, go out and get whatever role players you want (who doesn't want to play in Houston with three all-stars).

That, I guess, is the most likely avenue if a deal is made for one of the two.

[rezznor]

This isn't news, they do this every offseason.

Will be a 2nd round exit for them next year, teams with zero chemistry that just go after big names every year never succeed.
"zero chemistry" got them to the wcf...