The US still enforces a polygamy ban. Your thoughts?

[Akrazotile]

Usually men with multiple wives arent meek, insecure and vulnerable, therefore dont receive the same liberal sympathies.


Still, principle is principle, right? Govt should NOT be regulating marriage, right?

[Droid101]

0/10

You aren't even trying anymore.

[Goon Time]

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[Akrazotile]

0/10

You aren't even trying anymore.


You and Deuce are like gnats. Itd be one thing if you posted actual opinions that I disagreed with. But youre literally just mindless liberal cheerleaders.

Quite fitting since youre gay and hes a bitch.

[BlazerRed]

Boring. How is that relevant? Men and women are both stopped from doing this. It isn't about equality.. gay rights are.

[Nanners]

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[Droid101]

Oh man, he called me gay.

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[Norcaliblunt]

Go join the Mormon mafia and fight for the cause then homie. No one is stopping you.

[Akrazotile]

Oh man, he called me gay.

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You are, arent you?

[Akrazotile]

Go join the Mormon mafia and fight for the cause then homie. No one is stopping you.


Why would I need to join the mormons??? We should ALL be against marriage discrimination right?

Seriously. Stop being hateful.

No H8.

[Droid101]

You are, arent you?
Not sure where you heard that, but for the record I'm not.

Balls never touched.

[BlazerRed]

Not sure where you heard that, but for the record I'm not.

Balls never touched.
It doesn't count because I didn't enjoy it :rockon:

[Akrazotile]

Not sure where you heard that, but for the record I'm not.

Balls never touched.


Pretty sure you acknowledged it once, and youre also more vehement about gay issues than every other liberal here combined.

Put it this way. When Ridonks acts straighter than you, and Ridonks is gay AF, you are confirmed clearly gay.



Not H8ing. Just keepin it real. You drink semen from a water bottle during your aerobics classes.

[Goon Time]

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that's me on the right

[Goon Time]

You drink semen from a water bottle during your aerobics classes.


That's really a better post-workout drink

[BlazerRed]

Pretty sure you acknowledged it once, and youre also more vehement about gay issues than every other liberal here combined.

Put it this way. When Ridonks acts straighter than you, and Ridonks is gay AF, you are confirmed clearly gay.



Not H8ing. Just keepin it real. You drink semen from a water bottle during your aerobics classes.
Pretty sure calling someone a homo who is for gay rights is kind of pointless, regardless of their orientation they are not going to be offended zzzz.

[Goon Time]

This is just Chris' way of changing the world. Public opinion is not where it needs to be so his hands are tied. Real activism isn't an option currently, soon enough he'll pick up the slings and arrows of leadership and make a difference, but for today, it's calling people gay and crying double standard. Baby steps.

[Akrazotile]

Pretty sure calling someone a homo who is for gay rights is kind of pointless, regardless of their orientation they are not going to be offended zzzz.


Wasnt my intent to offend. I was pointing out how appropriate it was that he and deucephalluses are nothing but cheerleaders.

[Trollsmasher]

If you decide that the only requirement for marriage is a consent between =>2 people, then there is absolutely no single argument against polygamy

Also why are the forum's liberals mad about it?:biggums: Polygamy has been on your agenda for a pretty long time too and it does not hurt anyone.

[BlazerRed]

Wasnt my intent to offend. I was pointing out how appropriate it was that he and deucephalluses are nothing but cheerleaders.
zzzzzz

[BlazerRed]

If you decide that the only requirement for marriage is a consent between =>2 people, then there is absolutely no single argument against polygamy

Also why are the forum's liberals mad about it?:biggums: Polygamy has been on your agenda for a pretty long time too and it does not hurt anyone.
No, the argument for gay marriage is equality. Which again, has nothing to do with polygamy no matter how you try to spin it. Everyone is banned from engaging in polygamy. Not just one specific gender, race or group.

[Norcaliblunt]

Are you guys really for polygamy and marriage rights as you say, or just butthurt about the gay marriage ruling? You have to be honest with yourself first before we can discuss this rationally.

[Akrazotile]

Are you guys really for polygamy and marriage rights as you say, or just butthurt about the gay marriage ruling? You have to be honest with yourself first before we can discuss this rationally.


Actually I have been behind the right to polygamy well before this ruling and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. But Ive never seen it as a priority issue.

But if marriage equality is on the national agenda and the SC is getting involved, we have to overturn polygamy bans, right?

[32jazz]

Actually I have been behind the right to polygamy well before this ruling and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. But Ive never seen it as a priority issue.

But if marriage equality is on the national agenda and the SC is getting involved, we have to overturn polygamy bans, right?

Fine with me if its consenting adults.

[Trollsmasher]

Are you guys really for polygamy and marriage rights as you say, or just butthurt about the gay marriage ruling? You have to be honest with yourself first before we can discuss this rationally.
Absolutely.

There are more stable 3 and more person relationships in the Western world than stable homosexual ones (not surprising since your average homo goes through 4 partners every year and seeing one relationship last longer than a year is like seeing a white whale out on the sea - even my gay cousin, who is by his own words "pretty mild", changes them like socks). And those people are refused benefits of their love and are being called criminal for it.

The obvious argument is that once you devaluate the institution of marriage to a mere "2 people consenting to an union", there is literally no reason why it couldn't be 3, 4, 6 people consenting to an union.

I am obviously arguing in the favor of polyamory too.

[DeuceWallaces]

Don't have a problem with it, but it's not really a big issue.

[Droid101]

Actually I have been behind the right to polygamy well before this ruling and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. But Ive never seen it as a priority issue.

But if marriage equality is on the national agenda and the SC is getting involved, we have to overturn polygamy bans, right?
No, we don't HAVE to. It's a separate issue. Everyone is banned from polygamy. There is no discrimination taking place at the current time.

However, go for it. Consenting adults, what do I care?

[Norcaliblunt]

Actually I have been behind the right to polygamy well before this ruling and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. But Ive never seen it as a priority issue.

But if marriage equality is on the national agenda and the SC is getting involved, we have to overturn polygamy bans, right?

Start the polygamy movement and fight your way to the sumpreme court. No one is stopping you. Who knows you might even have some great honorable people like Mitt Romney on your side for help which could make it easier.

[DeuceWallaces]

Actually I have been behind the right to polygamy well before this ruling and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. But Ive never seen it as a priority issue.

But if marriage equality is on the national agenda and the SC is getting involved, we have to overturn polygamy bans, right?

The only thing you're behind is a keyboard.

You've never done anything with your life. You stand for nothing, and you do nothing.

[warriorfan]

op isn't ever going to get 1 girl so he doesn't have to worry about how he can't be married to 2...walk before you run big boy

[NumberSix]

If you decide that the only requirement for marriage is a consent between =>2 people, then there is absolutely no single argument against polygamy

Also why are the forum's liberals mad about it?:biggums: Polygamy has been on your agenda for a pretty long time too and it does not hurt anyone.
Lol. Don't worry. Lefties will jump on board with polygamy when enough Muslims start bitching about it.

The thing about lefties is that they have absolutely no principles. The trick to getting them to think something is by which group of people it is associated with. If polygamy is associated with Mormons, they are against it. Lefties think that Mormons are Christians and the left despises Christianity, so they will not be for anything that they associate with Christianity.

Islam is another story though. Muslims are one of the groups that the left feels the need to carry a torch for. In Islam, men are allowed to have 4 wives. If the left associates polygamy with Muslims, they will crusade (no pun intended) for "marriage equality" polygamy rights.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Lol. Don't worry. Lefties will jump on board with polygamy when enough Muslims start bitching about it.

The thing about lefties is that they have absolutely no principles. The trick to getting them to think something is by which group of people it is associated with. If polygamy is associated with Mormons, they are against it. Lefties think that Mormons are Christians and the left despises Christianity, so they will not be for anything that they associate with Christianity.

Islam is another story though. Muslims are one of the groups that the left feels the need to carry a torch for. In Islam, men are allowed to have 4 wives. If the left associates polygamy with Muslims, they will crusade (no pun intended) for "marriage equality" polygamy rights.
Regardless of the absurdity of the post, do you really think you can make such a sweeping generalization about a group of millions of people? All rightys are closeted homosexuals. Both of our points are equally valid.

[HitandRun Reggie]

On it's face you would think it might be a good idea, with alpha males and males with attributes that are desirable to women like wealth, ambition, education, attractiveness etc contributing more of their superior genetics to the gene pool. But in reality it doesn't seem like that theory plays out. Areas where polygamy is practiced like Africa and the Middle East, the populations have the lowest IQs and QOL in the world.

[Goon Time]

The only thing you're behind is a keyboard.

You've never done anything with your life. You stand for nothing, and you do nothing.


Cut him some slack, his hands are tied. Public opinion where it is, he has no leverage to try to affect change. All he can do is try to get people to think reasonably on inside hoops. Once he changes a few minds here? Wildfire. Then, then Chris Samuels will make his move from his tiny studio apartment in austin texas that his father is paying for.

[Akrazotile]

Lol. Don't worry. Lefties will jump on board with polygamy when enough Muslims start bitching about it.

The thing about lefties is that they have absolutely no principles. The trick to getting them to think something is by which group of people it is associated with. If polygamy is associated with Mormons, they are against it. Lefties think that Mormons are Christians and the left despises Christianity, so they will not be for anything that they associate with Christianity.

Islam is another story though. Muslims are one of the groups that the left feels the need to carry a torch for. In Islam, men are allowed to have 4 wives. If the left associates polygamy with Muslims, they will crusade (no pun intended) for "marriage equality" polygamy rights.


This is EXACTLY right and it is something I'm going to make a related thread about when I get a chance to get on my laptop.

[KyrieTheFuture]

This is EXACTLY right and it is something I'm going to make a related thread about when I get a chance to get on my laptop.
Just like you'll be a real activist once you settle down in a city right

[NumberSix]

Regardless of the absurdity of the post, do you really think you can make such a sweeping generalization about a group of millions of people? All rightys are closeted homosexuals. Both of our points are equally valid.
Have you ever really thought about this? How many left wing positions are NOT connected to some class of people like gays, blacks, trans, poor, women, etc... How many left wing issues are just matters of principle?

I can easily think of right wing positions that aren't. Guns rights for 1. The simple principle that PEOPLE have a right to self defense. The argument isn't about poor people, black people, gay people. The principle stands on its own.

Seriously, try to think of some left wing issues that aren't attached to an identity group.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Have you ever really thought about this? How many left wing positions are NOT connected to some class of people like gays, blacks, trans, poor, women, etc... How many left wing issues are just matters of principle?

I can easily think of right wing positions that aren't. Guns rights for 1. The simple principle that PEOPLE have a right to self defense. The argument isn't about poor people, black people, gay people. The principle stands on its own.

Seriously, try to think of some left wing issues that aren't attached to an identity group.
Environmental policy

And I meant do you really believe people are against polygamy specifically to **** with mormons but would reverse it to appease muslims

[navy]

Have you ever really thought about this? How many left wing positions are NOT connected to some class of people like gays, blacks, trans, poor, women, etc... How many left wing issues are just matters of principle?

I can easily think of right wing positions that aren't. Guns rights for 1. The simple principle that PEOPLE have a right to self defense. The argument isn't about poor people, black people, gay people. The principle stands on its own.

Seriously, try to think of some left wing issues that aren't attached to an identity group.
This is what's wrong with america. People that try to fit everything into left and right categories without taking issues as they are are separately. Things are complicated, simple arguments wont solve problems.

I cant support gay marriage and gun rights? Well damn. Life really is that simple isnt it?

[UK2K]

Boring. How is that relevant? Men and women are both stopped from doing this. It isn't about equality.. gay rights are.
You can't help who you love.

The state is telling them they can't marry.

[UK2K]

This is what's wrong with america. People that try to fit everything into left and right categories without taking issues as they are are separately. Things are complicated, simple arguments wont solve problems.

I cant support gay marriage and gun rights? Well damn. Life really is that simple isnt it?
Sure you can.

I do.

But that doesn't change that right arguments don't single out a particular group like every leftist policy does.

[navy]

Sure you can.

I do.

But that doesn't change that right arguments don't single out a particular group like every leftist policy does.
It doesnt matter if things single people out or are leftist. How is that an argument against them being wrong?

It's not.

[NumberSix]

It doesnt matter if things single people out or are leftist. How is that an argument against them being wrong?

It's not.
Well, the left doesn't argue from places of principle. They're arguments change depending on which group of people are involved. They constantly say nonsense things like "the rich don't pay their fair share" as if "fair share" could mean anything other than a flat tax. These lefty idiots never realize that it works in the governments favor for all the money to go into the fewest pockets. The more concentrated the wealth is, the bigger cut the government gets. And then you wonder why the government rigs all the rules to put all the wealth in the fewest people's pockets.

[Droid101]

Well, the left doesn't argue from places of principle. They're arguments change depending on which group of people are involved.
The right are all racist, homophobes, and closet homosexuals.

Same broad statement as the one you made - no basis in reality.

[RRR3]

I don't think polygamy should be illegal. But op doesn't really care about polygamists rights. He's just mad about gay marriage being legalized

[NumberSix]

I don't think polygamy should be illegal. But op doesn't really care about polygamists rights. He's just mad about gay marriage being legalized
Does his motivation actually matter though?

[Goon Time]

Does his motivation actually matter though?


not really but it is worth noting that this thread is based on his whining more than a desire to have a real discussion, might affect how seriously you choose to engage in the discussion if you understand that it's just the sniveling of some butthurt loser who thinks he's making a point

[RRR3]

not really but it is worth noting that this thread is based on his whining more than a desire to have a real discussion, might affect how seriously you choose to engage in the discussion if you understand that it's just the sniveling of some butthurt loser who thinks he's making a point
Pretty much

[Cactus-Sack]

I have been pro polyamourous marriage for a long time, and have always been disgusted at the way this issue has been treated by the gay rights community.

The government has absolutely no business regulating marriage (a business it originally got in to to stop interracial marriage).

Most people in plural relationships are hippies too, why won't the left get behind this.

[RRR3]

I have been pro polyamourous marriage for a long time, and have always been disgusted at the way this issue has been treated by the gay rights community.

The government has absolutely no business regulating marriage (a business it originally got in to to stop interracial marriage).

Most people in plural relationships are hippies too, why won't the left get behind this.
Yeah, it's ironic that a lot of the squick people seem to have with polygamy is founded on a religious-based idea of marriage, but said people may rant about fundamentalists damning gay marriage.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I never really thought about that in comparison with gay marriage.

The government will probably allow gay polygamy which may open the door for polygamy polygamy

[NumberSix]

The right are all racist, homophobes, and closet homosexuals.

Same broad statement as the one you made - no basis in reality.
Left wing politics are by definition based on "social classes". If you want to argue that this is a principle in itself, I'll perhaps concede that.

I don't have a line drawn in the sand over this issue. I can see good arguments on both sides. Not the stupid pandering to base emotions arguments. But good, sensible arguments based on law and principles of freedom.

The one area where i get suspicious about is I do have a worry about people being targeted for "discrimination" suits and punishment for simply wanting to not be involved with a gay marriage. When people say "we don't want to force this on anybody, we just want to live and let live" I simply don't believe that. I simply can't get on board with people's property rights being abridged.

If the law was, the government will recognize same sex marriage contracts, but won't punish people who don't want to take part, I'm fine with that.

I have no illusions about this topic. I understand fully well that some people just think gay is bad and just don't want gays to get married because it will lead to, cultural degeneration or something. I get that.

I don't care if the government recognizes the contract between a same sex couple, but private citizens have to have the freedom to not be forced to take part at the threat of government punishment.

[oh the horror]

OP this is why people punch you in the face in real life.