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TripleA
06-26-2015, 07:52 PM
These two groups are destroying our country.
Arguing over insignificant things like gay marriage when our worlds going to garbage.:(

KyrieTheFuture
06-26-2015, 07:56 PM
These two groups are destroying our country.
Arguing over insignificant things like gay marriage when are worlds going to garbage.:(
Are you even trying

navy
06-26-2015, 07:56 PM
Ain't nothin' new, but a flu of new DemoCrips and ReBloodlicans. Red state versus a blue state, which one you governin'?

TripleA
06-26-2015, 07:57 PM
Are you even trying
Thanks for the heads up

KyrieTheFuture
06-26-2015, 07:59 PM
Thanks for the heads up
Word, now for a serious non dick response.

Indeed, it's a huge reason why a two party system was not what the founding fathers wanted at all

NumberSix
06-26-2015, 08:14 PM
Word, now for a serious non dick response.

Indeed, it's a huge reason why a two party system was not what the founding fathers wanted at all
The main problem is grouping of non-related issues. For instance, there's no party that is both pro-gun and pro socialized health care. You have to pick one or the other.

joe
06-26-2015, 08:42 PM
The main problem is grouping of non-related issues. For instance, there's no party that is both pro-gun and pro socialized health care. You have to pick one or the other.

The federal government is not supposed to be involved in all of these issues. Federal politicians should not have to worry about every little issue and have to always pick a side. Their main worry is supposed to be the military and protecting our rights.

Socialized health care is something that no federal-level politican should have an opinion on. Having the federal government blanketly provide such a service is the opposite of the entire basis of our country.

NumberSix
06-26-2015, 08:45 PM
The federal government is not supposed to be involved in all of these issues. Federal politicians should not have to worry about every little issue and have to always pick a side. Their main worry is supposed to be the military and protecting our rights.

Socialized health care is something that no federal-level politican should have an opinion on. Having the federal government blanketly provide such a service is the opposite of the entire basis of our country.
Well, I see your point, but I'm of the opinion that the people have to right to choose. If the people want health insurance to be handled through the federal government, then that's the way it should be. BUT, that is for the people to decide. Not some court.

KevinNYC
06-26-2015, 09:04 PM
Indeed, it's a huge reason why a two party system was not what the founding fathers wanted at allAnd yet within a few years of ratifying the Constitution the Founding Fathers ended up creating competing political parties
These two groups are destroying our country.
Arguing over insignificant things like gay marriage when our worlds going to garbage.:(

Because things are not your #1 issue does not make them insignficant.

Also, the world is not going to garbage and the country not being destroyed. Why would you think that it is?

KevinNYC
06-26-2015, 09:05 PM
The federal government is not supposed to be involved in all of these issues. Federal politicians should not have to worry about every little issue and have to always pick a side. Their main worry is supposed to be the military and protecting our rights.

Socialized health care is something that no federal-level politican should have an opinion on. Having the federal government blanketly provide such a service is the opposite of the entire basis of our country.
Also there should be ice cream and ponies. And maybe a slip and slide.

Norcaliblunt
06-26-2015, 10:46 PM
I'm sick of both as well.

KingBeasley08
06-26-2015, 11:22 PM
I don't like either party but fck it. I'm voting Democrat for the near future as long as I see it. Republicans have gone batshit insane since 2008. Their retarded policies in Louisiana and Kansas would destroy our federal government. Eisenhower's one of my fav presidents but dude would be ashamed of his party today

Jameerthefear
06-26-2015, 11:23 PM
KevinCuck weighing in as usual.

KevinNYC
06-26-2015, 11:50 PM
I don't like either party but fck it. I'm voting Democrat for the near future as long as I see it. Republicans have gone batshit insane since 2008. Their retarded policies in Louisiana and Kansas would destroy our federal government. Eisenhower's one of my fav presidents but dude would be ashamed of his party today
These two political scientists (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html)would agree with you. [I]Our problem is polarization but not just any polarization

NumberSix
06-27-2015, 12:04 AM
These two political scientists (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html)would agree with you. Our problem is polarization but not just any polarization—asymmertric polarization. Republicans are more partisan than Democrats. The Republican Party, particularly in the House is much further from the center than the Democratic Party.
As far as political parties themselves, they're generally only as extreme as the public will allow them to be.

Don't fool yourself into thinking the left isn't batshit extreme. They are. They just don't have public support for their more extreme ideas, so they mostly just keep their mouth shut about them on the main political stages. The right for example can be completely extreme on issues like gun rights because they have public support. They can't be as extreme on gay marriage because the public isn't anti gay marriage.

Don't get it twisted. The democrats are acting like they are happy about the supreme courts same sex marriage ruling, but behind the scenes they are not. They just lost a political card. That issue isn't in play anymore. They would have much rather this ruling happened after the 2016 election.

KevinNYC
06-27-2015, 01:08 AM
The democrats have always been the anti-black party. Nice try.This is true.





If you have been asleep for the last 50 years.


Yes, Democrats mostly dominated Southern Politics during the Jim Crow era, but during the Civil Rights era there was a schism in the Democratic party and a realignment.
The racist "state rights" Democrats lost. Yes, George Wallace was a Democrat when he stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama and tried to prevent a federal judge's ruling allowing black students to attend. Then Democratic president federalized the Alabama National Guard and this general ordered Wallace to step aside.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/general-henry-graham-governor-george-wallace-stand-schoolhouse-door.jpeg

That very same night JFK went on national TV and gave a speech (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=9271&st=&st1=) written that very same day calling equal rights a moral issue and calling for civil rights laws. It was well-received in the black community. (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/06/the-day-president-kennedy-embraced-civil-rights-and-the-story-behind-it/276749/)

The next day Medgar Evars was shot.

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/host.madison.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/cb/ccbb176e-103c-11e5-9781-4b8a890cffa0/5399a63eecde7.preview-620.jpg

After JFK was assassinated, LBJ urged passage of the Civil Rights bill as a tribute to JFK. The Bill was filibustered by among others Democrat Strom Thurmond. The Bill overwhelmingly passed except in the South (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party_and_region) where over 95% of Southern Democrats and 100% of Southern Republicans opposed it.

One of the non Southern Republicans who opposed the act was Barry Goldwater. Here's Martin Luther King on Goldwater's 1964 Republican convention. (http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2008/08/republicans_put_up_50_mlk_bill.php)

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The "best man" at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
It was both unfortunate and disastrous that the Republican Party nominated Barry Goldwater as its candidate for President of the United States. In foreign policy Mr. Goldwater advocated a narrow nationalism, a crippling isolationism, and a trigger-happy attitude that could plunge the whole world into the dark abyss of annihilation. On social and economic issues, Mr. Goldwater represented an unrealistic conservatism that was totally out of touch with the realities of the twentieth century. The issue of poverty compelled the attention of all citizens of our country. Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.

While I had followed a policy of not endorsing political candidates, I felt that the prospect of Senator Goldwater being President of the United States so threatened the health, morality, and survival of our nation, that I could not in good conscience fail to take a stand against what he represented.
MLK called LBJ's election a defeat for the 'forces of regress'

In 1964, Goldwater got his deepest support in the Deep South where states like Alabama and Mississippi went Republican for the first time since the 1860's. He got much higher votes totals there than in his old home state. 2 months after the 1964 Civil Rights Act, in a early indication of a shift that would happen all over Strom Thurmond became a Republican.

The fight during the 1960s was so significant, that for decades afterwards, it was quite common to see pictures of MLK right along JFK in black homes almost to the point of cliche.
https://backinrivercity.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/jfk-rfk-mlk-cropped.jpg

“Back in the day, in households in Alabama where I’m from, his portrait was on the wall along with King and Jesus Christ,” said Dale Long, who works for the city of Dallas.

Smook B
06-27-2015, 01:12 AM
Combine the two Repubcrats or Demolicans.

9erempiree
06-27-2015, 01:23 AM
Just a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.