Ted Cruz: "Today -- it's some of the darkest 24 hours in our nation's history"

[rezznor]

so gay marriage, the confederate flag and obamacare are on par with 911 and pearl harbor.



http://www.forwardprogressives.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Ted-Cruz-Crying-300x214.jpg

http://99gifs.com/-img/509a8584afa96f1daf0010f3.gif

this man wants to be our president folks

[9erempiree]

Such an idiot.

That is why you don't elect foreigners as President of our good country.

[DonDadda59]

The Confederacy no longer exists, poor people are getting health care, and gay dudes will be running around f*cking everyone in the ass with impunity. Yup, much worse than 9/11 and Pearl Harbor put together. Ted Cruz 2016. :applause:

[SugarHill]

The Confederacy no longer exists, poor people are getting health care, and gay dudes will be running around f*cking everyone in the ass with impunity. Yup, much worse than 9/11 and Pearl Harbor put together. Ted Cruz 2016. :applause:
http://i.imgur.com/S49VAfP.jpg

[Akrazotile]

so gay marriage, the confederate flag and obamacare are on par with 911 and pearl harbor.



http://www.forwardprogressives.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Ted-Cruz-Crying-300x214.jpg

http://99gifs.com/-img/509a8584afa96f1daf0010f3.gif

Well apparently liberals stay winnin.

We're still spending countless american dollars to occupy foreign lands. The government still spies on its own citizens. Inner city blacks stay killin TF out of each other.

This is what liberals told everyone they wanted fixed, and that Obama can do it.

But as those major issues rage on, Obama was like "Im gonna let that shit keep goin, but we're gonna allow gay marriage and we're gonna take down an old flag!" and democrats are literally parading the streets.

These people were threatening to leave the country over Bush's policies. Obama kept all the major controversial ones in place, and liberals are parading bc a Democrat got gay marriage through and pissed off the conservatives.


Really shows you how the mob of idiots out there actually work doesnt it?

Liberals dont stay winning. Rich bankers and international power players stay winnin. Liberals are like a retarded kid who doesnt realize an NBA player just let him win so hed feel good for the day. Liberals think they actually won :facepalm

[DonDadda59]

http://i.imgur.com/S49VAfP.jpg

Liberals :facepalm

[rezznor]

http://i.imgur.com/S49VAfP.jpg
all those illegal aliens obama lets in are raping our pure white women. :facepalm

[Akrazotile]

all those illegal aliens obama lets in are raping our pure white women. :facepalm


No, theyre driving down wages for jobs many people could use at a decent salary, especially black folks.


But let's stay focused on calling out rednecks bc thats more fun right? Internet PJ party to make fun of the yokels!


Have at it. Whites will stay winnin. :confusedshrug:

[Norcaliblunt]

Well apparently liberals stay winnin.

We're still spending countless american dollars to occupy foreign lands. The government still spies on its own citizens. Inner city blacks stay killin TF out of each other.

This is what liberals told everyone they wanted fixed, and that Obama can do it.

But as those major issues rage on, Obama was like "Im gonna let that shit keep goin, but we're gonna allow gay marriage and we're gonna take down an old flag!" and democrats are literally parading the streets.

These people were threatening to leave the country over Bush's policies. Obama kept all the major controversial ones in place, and liberals are parading bc a Democrat got gay marriage through and pissed off the conservatives.


Really shows you how the mob of idiots out there actually work doesnt it?

Liberals dont stay winning. Rich bankers and international power players stay winnin. Liberals are like a retarded kid who doesnt realize an NBA player just let him win so hed feel good for the day. Liberals think they actually won :facepalm

Dude I feel what you are saying, but you stay shilling for the oligarchy with all this left/right duality you endorse with every post you make. Why don't you enlighten us on at least one concrete policy you think is a worth while cause. Where's your program?

[Norcaliblunt]

No, theyre driving down wages for jobs many people could use at a decent salary, especially black folks.


That's why you assimilate them as fast as possible. The fact people still want to come here is a major trump card in the geopolitical sphere. It says that America still has superior ideals. If all these people were fleeing to say China how would you feel about that? It's either learn to converse casally in Spanish or be forced to take orders in Chinese.

[longtime lurker]

Fighting against poor people, black people and gay people were the Republican's go to moves. What else is left? Things just aren't the same for old bigots :cry:

[Akrazotile]

Dude I feel what you are saying, but you stay shilling for the oligarchy with all this left/right duality you endorse with every post you make. Why don't you enlighten us on at least one concrete policy you think is a worth while cause. Where's your program?

We dont need a lot of policy and program.

Let people make their own decisions and live with the consequences.

Lets see the liberals walk all their tolerance talk. Lets let south carolina institute segregation, and have ALL the poor uneducated blacks in that state show up in Manhattan and San Fransisco. Then we'll really see who's tolerant, and who's a hateful segregationist bigot.

Mind your own community's business, and if you REALLY wanna get involved on behalf of people a thousand miles away, then donate to programs that help.

You wanna stand on a lil milk crate from way over in a posh Cupertino neighborhood and wag your finger at poor southern whites for their values, to make yourself look better. To make everyone recognize you as moral authority. Youre like a priest who preaches values but bends them when he gets alone with a little boy. Youre trying to puff yourself up by dictating values whenever its convenient for you, but then decrying freedom of choice whenever its not.

It's not my job to worry about what anybody does in SC cause I dont live there. And if NY and California turn into glorious liberal utopias, other states will follow suit, or at the least those persecuted will move to better pastures.

But Carmel libs dont wanna live with poor blacks in practice. Only in "theory" bc they know it wont happen. They wanna push poor whites and poor blacks together so they can say "Aha! Look at us. TOP MORAL DAWGS."

Sorry. Im not impressed and nobody else is either. Liberalism is literally a cult full of phonies.

[NumberSix]

Fighting against poor people, black people and gay people were the Republican's go to moves. What else is left? Things just aren't the same for old bigots :cry:
The democrats have always been the anti-black party. Nice try.

[Lebron23]

Ted Cruz kinda looks gay.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Why do people think Ted Cruz would make a good president?

Nothing in the interviews I've seen him in tell me anything...except that his iq rivals Bush Jr's.

[RRR3]

The democrats have always been the anti-black party. Nice try.
:oldlol:


No, they were in the past, back when LIBERALS were republicans and CONSERVATIVES were Democrats. That is not the case anymore, don't get it twisted.






"b-b-b-b-b-but Lincoln was a Republican! :cry: :cry: :cry: "

[NumberSix]

We dont need a lot of policy and program.

Let people make their own decisions and live with the consequences.

Lets see the liberals walk all their tolerance talk. Lets let south carolina institute segregation, and have ALL the poor uneducated blacks in that state show up in Manhattan and San Fransisco. Then we'll really see who's tolerant, and who's a hateful segregationist bigot.

Mind your own community's business, and if you REALLY wanna get involved on behalf of people a thousand miles away, then donate to programs that help.

You wanna stand on a lil milk crate from way over in a posh Cupertino neighborhood and wag your finger at poor southern whites for their values, to make yourself look better. To make everyone recognize you as moral authority. Youre like a priest who preaches values but bends them when he gets alone with a little boy. Youre trying to puff yourself up by dictating values whenever its convenient for you, but then decrying freedom of choice whenever its not.

It's not my job to worry about what anybody does in SC cause I dont live there. And if NY and California turn into glorious liberal utopias, other states will follow suit, or at the least those persecuted will move to better pastures.

But Carmel libs dont wanna live with poor blacks in practice. Only in "theory" bc they know it wont happen. They wanna push poor whites and poor blacks together so they can say "Aha! Look at us. TOP MORAL DAWGS."

Sorry. Im not impressed and nobody else is either. Liberalism is literally a cult.
Absolutely not. The government should not view citizens as anything other than individuals. Restriction of freedom is NEVER the answer.

[longtime lurker]

The democrats have always been the anti-black party. Nice try.

:oldlol: you always keep repeating this bullshit and you don't even believe it.

[RRR3]

Akrazotile relaxing:


http://slacktory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Almost-Politically-Correct-Redneck-or-normal.jpeg

[Akrazotile]

Absolutely not. The government should not view citizens as anything other than individuals. Restriction of freedom is NEVER the answer.


It was clearly meant as a thought experiment, so we could think about what would happen if all the poor black folks in SC showed up in rich new york and san fran neighborhoods.

It's easy to be a moralist at a distance.

[longtime lurker]

:oldlol:


No, they were in the past, back when LIBERALS were republicans and CONSERVATIVES were Democrats. That is not the case anymore, don't get it twisted.






"b-b-b-b-b-but Lincoln was a Republican! :cry: :cry: :cry: "

Republicans believe that if Martin Luther King was alive today he'd be a Republican :lol these people literally have zero grasp on reality.

[Akrazotile]

Akrazotile relaxing:


http://slacktory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Almost-Politically-Correct-Redneck-or-normal.jpeg


Thats a funny pic but sorry, Im not gonna give you attention on this alt either.

[NumberSix]

:oldlol:


No, they were in the past, back when LIBERALS were republicans and CONSERVATIVES were Democrats. That is not the case anymore, don't get it twisted.






"b-b-b-b-b-but Lincoln was a Republican! :cry: :cry: :cry: "
You'd be hard pressed to find a democrat who is also a liberal. They've co-opted the word "liberal" but people on the left are not advocates of liberty.

And as I keep telling you people, conservative and liberal are not opposites.

The only thing the Democratic Party has ever done for black Americans is the civil rights acts, and even then, a higher percentage of republicans voted for them than the democrats.

[RRR3]

Republicans believe that if Martin Luther King was alive today he'd be a Republican :lol these people literally have zero grasp on reality.
https://spydersden.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/voting_republican.jpg

[NumberSix]

Republicans believe that if Martin Luther King was alive today he'd be a Republican :lol these people literally have zero grasp on reality.
His father was a lifelong republican. MLK never specifically said which party he favoured.

[Norcaliblunt]

We dont need a lot of policy and program.

So you rather just bitch and moan? Are you an anarchist or something? I have no problem with that if you are? At least admit it.

[RRR3]

Eh, "republicans" and "democrats" matter less to me than "liberal" and "conservative". I'm no political expert, but I never get why anyone would willingly support people who believe oppression is good and some people should be punished simply for who they were born as.

[KingBeasley08]

Obama is legit killing it in his 2nd term. Republicans know this and are starting to get nervous about President Hillary :lol

[RRR3]

Obama is legit killing it in his 2nd term. Republicans know this and are starting to get nervous about President Hillary :lol
What's Obama's PER (Presidential Efficiency Rating)?

[NumberSix]

Eh, "republicans" and "democrats" matter less to me than "liberal" and "conservative". I'm no political expert, but I never get why anyone would willingly support people who believe oppression is good and some people should be punished simply for who they were born as.
Which party is the pro-oppression party?

[RRR3]

Which party is the pro-oppression party?
Both to some degree to be quite honest. But republicans in current times are much worse in that regard IMO.

[NumberSix]

Both to some degree to be quite honest. But republicans in current times are much worse in that regard IMO.
Care to explain?

[Akrazotile]

So you rather just bitch and moan? Are you an anarchist or something? I have no problem with that if you are? At least admit it.

The heck are you talkin bout?

The federal government is supposed to mediate interaction between states (interstate commerce etc) and preside over foreign policy.

The federal government is not supposed to hand out welfare and tell people whom their community must serve cakes to. Those are community issues. The more responsibility you give to communities, the more people get involved. See historically: Jews. The more you placate them, subsidize their participation with govt beaurocracy, let their votes feel less significant in a sea of hundreds of millions, the less initiative and accountability you get. See: urban black communities.


Black quality of life hasnt improved since the civil rights era. Violence, prison, teen pregnancy, absentee fathers are all still rampant, if not MORE widespread. What liberals dont understand is you CAN NOT do it for people. It never works. But the liberal game is to leverage government action for moral superiority. Inflate the bureaucracy bc " more money for schools!" is such a proud liberal battlecry. He sounds so nobel. He impresses all the hippies in the drum circle. The policy doesnt work; but he doesnt care. Each of these idiots is just a sheep in the herd, looking for his lil moment to get some affirmation for his turn doing the drop to his knees in the rain, arms spread out wide and yelling up to the sky "We are ALL one!!!!!"


Shit is so silly. But hurray, gay marriage! All problems officially solved.

[NumberSix]

Obama is legit killing it in his 2nd term. Republicans know this and are starting to get nervous about President Hillary :lol
Obama? :wtf:

Republican governors taking down the confederate flag and the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage. What do either of those things have to do with Obama?

[RRR3]

Care to explain?
Um...which group typically favors anti-gay shit?

[NumberSix]

Um...which group typically favors anti-gay shit?
Which group is typically anti-Israel?

Being anti-Israel doesn't automatically mean anti-Semitic. Being anti same sex marriage doesn't automatically mean anti-gay.

[KingBeasley08]

Obama? :wtf:

Republican governors taking down the confederate flag and the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage. What do either of those things have to do with Obama?
lol I was talking more about the Obamacare and his second term in general. I think ACA becoming a success was something many didn't see coming. Dude's improved his legacy like crazy this term. After his first, he would have most likely been in the bottom half of Presidents ever

[Norcaliblunt]

The heck are you talkin bout?

The federal government is supposed to mediate interaction between states (interstate commerce etc) and preside over foreign policy.

The federal government is not supposed to hand out welfare and tell people whom their community must serve cakes to. Those are community issues. The more responsibility you give to communities, the more people get involved. See historically: Jews. The more you placate them, subsidize their participation with govt beaurocracy, let their votes feel less significant in a sea of hundreds of millions, the less initiative and accountability you get. See: urban black communities.


Black quality of life hasnt improved since the civil rights era. Violence, prison, teen pregnancy, absentee fathers are all still rampant, if not MORE widespread. What liberals dont understand is you CAN NOT do it for people. It never works. But the liberal game is to leverage government action for moral superiority. Inflate the bureaucracy bc " more money for schools!" is such a proud liberal battlecry. He sounds so nobel. He impresses all the hippies in the drum circle. The policy doesnt work; but he doesnt care. Each of these idiots is just a sheep in the herd, looking for his lil moment to get some affirmation for his turn doing the drop to his knees in the rain, arms spread out wide and yelling up to the sky "We are ALL one!!!!!"


Shit is so silly. But hurray, gay marriage! All problems officially solved.

So the general welfare clause is not in the constitution? A lot of the problems within the black community. and the lowering standard of living for everyone could be attributed to globalization and the deindustrialization of American. Would you support a protective tariff?

[NumberSix]

lol I was talking more about the Obamacare and his second term in general. I think ACA becoming a success was something many didn't see coming. Dude's improved his legacy like crazy this term. After his first, he would have most likely been in the bottom half of Presidents ever
Was? As in, it already has? :wtf:

Heath care costs have gone UP, not down. The majority of the American people have an unfavourable view of it. What part of it is a success?

[Norcaliblunt]

lol I was talking more about the Obamacare and his second term in general. I think ACA becoming a success was something many didn't see coming. Dude's improved his legacy like crazy this term. After his first, he would have most likely been in the bottom half of Presidents ever

There's still proxy wars all over. No Medicare for all. No protective tariffs. Banks are still too big to fail. No mass works projects. The American infrastructure is still crumbling. Corporations are still people. Global free trade is still wreaking havoc. Still no legit energy program to lessen dependence on foreign oil. Etc. etc.

[longtime lurker]

Eh, "republicans" and "democrats" matter less to me than "liberal" and "conservative". I'm no political expert, but I never get why anyone would willingly support people who believe oppression is good and some people should be punished simply for who they were born as.

I don't favour either side, in fact I think the whole idea of staunchly aligning to one party is pretty fvcking stupid. Democrats have their issues as well. However Republicunts/Conservatives are on the wrong side of every issue. They hate black people, hate poor people, hate women, hate immigrants, hate gay people, hate the environment, hate science, hate Muslims, yet they claim to love Jesus :lol

Obviously this is a gross generalization and not every Republican is a dipshit like the leaders of their party

[Goon Time]

There's still proxy wars all over. No Medicare for all. No protective tariffs. Banks are still too big to fail. No mass works projects. The American infrastructure is still crumbling. Corporations are still people. Global free trade is still wreaking havoc. Still no legit energy program to lessen dependence on foreign oil. Etc. etc.


Yeah, come on Obama, fix the planet, hurry up. Let's ignore any victory because the world is imperfect

[Akrazotile]

So the general welfare clause is not in the constitution? A lot of the problems within the black community. and the lowering standard of living for everyone could be attributed to globalization and the deindustrialization of American. Would you support a protective tariff?


To my understanding the preamble states the purpose of the Constitution's creation is to support the general welfare. It does not say the government can make random policy using "general welfare" as a carte blanche guise.

As far as tarriffs, I am very conflicted on them. I do not have a concrete opinion for or against them at the moment.

[KingBeasley08]

Was? As in, it already has? :wtf:

Heath care costs have gone UP, not down. The majority of the American people have an unfavourable view of it. What part of it is a success?
Old polls. The ACA as of 2 days ago has a favorable rating and it's been trending up for the past few years as well

[Goon Time]

As far as tarriffs, I am very conflicted on them. I do not have a concrete opinion for or against them at the moment.


He'll get back to you as soon as he figures out where liberals weigh in

[ThePhantomCreep]

The heck are you talkin bout?

The federal government is supposed to mediate interaction between states (interstate commerce etc) and preside over foreign policy.

The federal government is not supposed to hand out welfare and tell people whom their community must serve cakes to. Those are community issues. The more responsibility you give to communities, the more people get involved. See historically: Jews. The more you placate them, subsidize their participation with govt beaurocracy, let their votes feel less significant in a sea of hundreds of millions, the less initiative and accountability you get. See: urban black communities.


Black quality of life hasnt improved since the civil rights era. Violence, prison, teen pregnancy, absentee fathers are all still rampant, if not MORE widespread. What liberals dont understand is you CAN NOT do it for people. It never works. But the liberal game is to leverage government action for moral superiority. Inflate the bureaucracy bc " more money for schools!" is such a proud liberal battlecry. He sounds so nobel. He impresses all the hippies in the drum circle. The policy doesnt work; but he doesnt care. Each of these idiots is just a sheep in the herd, looking for his lil moment to get some affirmation for his turn doing the drop to his knees in the rain, arms spread out wide and yelling up to the sky "We are ALL one!!!!!"

H try
Shit is so silly. But hurray, gay marriage! All problems officially solved.

It's idiocy like this that gave us Jim Crow laws. Thanks, but no more.

States don't have the power to exercise tyranny of the majority. The Supreme Court made the only decision today.

[Akrazotile]

It's idiocy like this that gave us Jim Crow laws. Thanks, but no more.



Youre so obsessed with the laws in the south from over there in LA.

I guess you believe the US should annex south america, africa, and the middle east and eradicate all the human rights atrocities there too, right?

Bc I mean when we did that in Iraq you pitched an absolute bitch fit. But we're all people and we're all one, right? You wanna police south carolina's culture, you must wanna do it everywhere. Unless Bush is in office? Or how does that work exactly. Seems you cant really make up your mind.

I guess thats what happens when you dont think for yourself.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Was? As in, it already has? :wtf:

Heath care costs have gone UP, not down. The majority of the American people have an unfavourable view of it. What part of it is a success?

The uninsured rate as its lowest point in decades, premiums rose at a lower rate than previous years, and people with preexisting conditions can now get coverage, where once they were denied.

It's a success by any metric.

[Norcaliblunt]

Yeah, come on Obama, fix the planet, hurry up. Let's ignore any victory because the world is imperfect

At least try. I'm not ignoring anything, just realistic that other very major issues are still going unsolved, and don't seem to be going away in any percievable future under mainstream Democrats or GOP.

[Akrazotile]

At least try. I'm not ignoring anything, just realistic that other very major issues are still going unsolved, and don't seem to be going away in any percievable future under mainstream Democrats or GOP.


It's Machiavelli.

You operate conservatively, in your own interest, while appearing to be liberal.

This is what global interests do. Republican and Democrat politicians dont give AF about gay marriage and either do most wealthy interests who stuff their pockets. This kinda shit will keep the liberals happy while Obama caters to big business and big global interests. Liberals get their little "na na na bu bu" moment over republicans. Thats all they want anyway. Theyre too stupid to understand the world on any larger or more complex of a scope.


Just look at phantomcreep

[ThePhantomCreep]

Youre so obsessed with the laws in the south from over there in LA.

I guess you believe the US should annex south america, africa, and the middle east and eradicate all the human rights atrocities there too, right?

Bc I mean when we did that in Iraq you pitched an absolute bitch fit. But we're all people and we're all one, right? You wanna police south carolina's culture, you must wanna do it everywhere. Unless Bush is in office? Or how does that work exactly. Seems you cant really make up your mind.

I guess thats what happens when you dont think for yourself.

Strong incoherence here. So you're saying the Supreme Court's decision is akin to Bush invading Iraq? :lol Nothing more to add.

I have no interest in policing the teabilly south, but it wouldn't kill them to contribute something of value to this nation besides preaching 1850s ideals in 2015 America.

[Norcaliblunt]

It's Machiavelli.

You operate conservatively, in your own interest, while appearing to be liberal.

This is what global interests do. Republican and Democrat politicians dont give AF about gay marriage and either do most wealthy interests who stuff their pockets. This kinda shit will keep the liberals happy while Obama caters to big business and big global interests. Liberals get their little "na na na bu bu" moment over republicans. Thats all they want anyway. Theyre too stupid to understand the world on any larger or more complex of a scope.


Just look at phantomcreep

The fact you understand this is what makes me wonder why you can't let the Republican Party go, and always feel the need to play the duality game to the extent you do. It's almost just like how these more left leaning people won't let go of the mainstream Democratic Party for whatever emotional reason.

[rezznor]

Why do people think Ted Cruz would make a good president?

Nothing in the interviews I've seen him in tell me anything...except that his iq rivals Bush Jr's.
He excites the extremists. That's about it. Him and trump are probably the worst Republican candidates

[NumberSix]

He excites the extremists. That's about it. Him and trump are probably the worst Republican candidates
Trump is not a real candidate. He's a clown taking advantage of of publicity tour opportunity.

[Akrazotile]

The fact you understand this is what makes me wonder why you can't let the Republican Party go, and always feel the need to play the duality game to the extent you do. It's almost just like how these more left leaning people won't let go of the mainstream Democratic Party for whatever emotional reason.


Where have I ever identified myself as a Republican?

Overall my position on the political spectrum is moderate right. But I do not align my views with any party simply because I belong to it. In fact I used to be registered independent altho I formally switched to Republican simply bc its one more election I can vote in (primaries). But my views are mine own. They always have been.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

He excites the extremists. That's about it. Him and trump are probably the worst Republican candidates

Yeah.. He has very little regard for America if he thinks it is a bad place when the Court rules against him.

I wonder why he wants to run anyway? Does he not see he would need to be President of all of us, gay people included?

[rezznor]

Trump is not a real candidate. He's a clown taking advantage of of publicity tour opportunity.
I would say the are both clowns. Cruz is more dangerous though because he actually holds an office

[Norcaliblunt]

Where have I ever identified myself as a Republican?

Overall my position on the political spectrum is moderate right. But I do not align my views with any party simply because I belong to it. In fact I used to be registered independent altho I formally switched to Republican simply bc its one more election I can vote in (primaries). But my views are mine own. They always have been.

You seem to go out of your way to defend the GOP's talking points on everything except maybe the war mongering stuff, while simultaneously attacking anything coming from even a slightly left of center point of view. This gay mariage stuff is a great example. Is this really the battle you want to fight? Debating over this while "Republican and Democrat politicians and their wealthy interests who stuff their pockets don't give AF about gay mariage? The kinda shit that keeps you arguing while both parties cater to big business and big global interests"?

[ace23]

http://i.imgur.com/S49VAfP.jpg
This is a flick? If so pm

[Akrazotile]

You seem to go out of your way to defend the GOP's talking points on everything except maybe the war mongering stuff, while simultaneously attacking anything coming from even a slightly left of center point of view. This gay mariage stuff is a great example. Is this really the battle you want to fight? Debating over this while "Republican and Democrat politicians and their wealthy interests who stuff their pockets don't give AF about gay mariage? The kinda shit that keeps you arguing while both parties cater to big business and big global interests"?


Can you seriously not tell that I'm opposing the federal government over extending its power and not whether or not men should have buttsecks?

Consolidated federal authority is exactly what leads to the issues you just referred to. States should be autonomous and competing with each other for their own good, not all under the lock and key of the federal government and and its morality puppet show facade.

[BurningHammer]

While we go bananas because of these craps, TPP is quietly getting pass and screwing all of us.

[KevinNYC]

so gay marriage, the confederate flag and obamacare are on par with 911 and pearl harbor.
Also 600,000 died during the Civil War.

Just saying

[TheMan]

No, theyre driving down wages for jobs many people could use at a decent salary, especially black folks.


But let's stay focused on calling out rednecks bc thats more fun right? Internet PJ party to make fun of the yokels!


Have at it. Whites will stay winnin. :confusedshrug:
No, Corporate America is driving the wages down. If they wouldn't hire illegals in the first (like the laws of the land says), illegals wouldn't come here if they knew they wouldn't get work. They keep coming because they know they'll find work.:confusedshrug:

[Akrazotile]

No, Corporate America is driving the wages down. If they wouldn't hire illegals in the first (like the laws of the land says), illegals wouldn't come here if they knew they wouldn't get work. They keep coming because they know they'll find work.:confusedshrug:

Yeah but corporations arent kept in check on the issue bc liberals supoort illegal immigration for some bizare reason.

Corps at least have something to gain. Liberals just lookin for a morality card to flaunt :facepalm

[TripleA]

Yeah but corporations arent kept in check on the issue bc liberals supoort illegal immigration for some bizare reason.

Corps at least have something to gain. Liberals just lookin for a morality card to flaunt :facepalm

You do now farmers and meat processors use illegal immigrants so they can lower the condition and wages. Guess who these corps are giving money to the republicans.:hammerhead:

[TripleA]

liberal this , liberal that how about you ****ing conservatives get elected and change shit.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Republicans don't want Americans to hold more agriculture and industrial jobs because then they'd have to pay more for their precious possessions.

[Take Your Lumps]

Damn. Obama's just padding his stats now. Republicans getting worked in the paint :oldlol:

[Dresta]

:oldlol:


No, they were in the past, back when LIBERALS were republicans and CONSERVATIVES were Democrats. That is not the case anymore, don't get it twisted.

"b-b-b-b-b-but Lincoln was a Republican! :cry: :cry: :cry: "
I always laugh at this ignorant and ahistorical argument. The Democrat Party was the racist party throughout the 20th century, when it was still overwhelmingly 'Liberal.' The doctrine of Woodrow Wilson (an open and unrepentant racist, similar to the Democratic racists of today, taking up 'The White Man's Burden' - that non-whites need white pity and charity to make anything of themselves) was Liberalism incarnate (then called Progressivism, which was rebranded as Liberalism under FDR, as the former had accrued negative connotations due to its similarities with fascism, support for eugenics, and other idiotic leftist fads). FDR needed to keep the racist southern democrats on side to force through the changes he wanted (was this 'conservatives' and 'liberals' on the same side? But then the people that opposed them were called conservative too...strange), which is why he was unwilling to draft any anti-lynching legislation, refused to honour Jesse Owens at the White House, and never desegregated the army (alongside many other things).

Anyway, liberalism has effectively become the establishment consensus, and has increasingly been so over the past 80 years - thus people who think they are liberal and radical are generally just clueless clowns blindly trying to uphold the status quo and effective moral consensus - this sounds kinda conservative to me. The disingenuousness of liberals, and their incessant manipulation of language to fit their agendas, has made these labels more or less redundant anyway. Whether you agree with them or not, the most radical force in American politics (those who hope to change the most, the fastest; conservatives will opt for slow, gradual change, the MO of the ongoing cultural revolution, and its salami-slicing away at established institutions and mores) is the Tea Party, another group that is seen to be extremely conservative. Seems like people just use this word to label people they don't like as an outdated bigots or what not, a rather bigoted attitude in itself (one that instantly dismisses all arguments that conflict with your own, as shown by the way people like ThePhantomCreep come on here ranting and raving about the 'evil' conservatives he just wants rounded up and put into camps - this is the totalitarian mentality, and totalitarianism is most clearly a phenomenon of the left). Historically speaking, pretty much every politician in America today is a liberal of one stripe or another; Ted Cruz's proposals likely aren't much different to the kind of 'Classical Liberalism' espoused in the 19th and early 20th centuries (except for his needlessly hawkish foreign policy, which immediately makes him suspect, at least to me).

[Dresta]

It's idiocy like this that gave us Jim Crow laws. Thanks, but no more.

States don't have the power to exercise tyranny of the majority. The Supreme Court made the only decision today.
:wtf:

Yes, only the Federal Government should have the right to exercise this majority tyranny you speak of, which is what it has just done.

The Supreme Court long ago forget its mandate of upholding the Constitution and instead started pandering pathetically to public opinion. Its effectiveness as a restraint on government power is long gone. Comparing allowing states to retain the definition of marriage they have upheld for centuries to Jim Crow segregation and disempowerment really shows what a ****ing clueless bellend you are.


While we go bananas because of these craps, TPP is quietly getting pass and screwing all of us.
So true - it also coincides perfectly with a period (now) when the economic numbers look like those of an economy in recession, not one on the back of a strong recovery. Timing is just coincidental i guess...

:roll:

Tyranny of the majority doe...gays might have to go to another state to get married...people might have to responsible for their own medical coverage...tyranny!!! Tyranny is using the government to force people to do things they don't want to do, and that's exactly what these decisions are doing, on a gigantic scale. Tyranny is debasing your own currency because a gargantuan Federal government can't afford to pay its debts, and is instead passing the buck, undemocratically, onto it's citizenry. None of these things get anything like the coverage of trivial flimflam like gay marriage - these issues always come to the forefront while something dodgy is going on in the back.


Yeah, come on Obama, fix the planet, hurry up. Let's ignore any victory because the world is imperfect
Yes, you most certainly ignore a trivial victory that is only for show when all the important things remain completely unaddressed. I'm sure Obama sees this as little more than a smokescreen (because he needs one quite desperately right now), and yet here are his groupies thinking it some monumental and nation-changing victory. You're too much.


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[ThePhantomCreep]

Yeah but corporations arent kept in check on the issue bc liberals supoort illegal immigration for some bizare reason.

Corps at least have something to gain. Liberals just lookin for a morality card to flaunt :facepalm

You dirty Bushbot.

Reagan was the last president to grant amnesty in 1986; he and George H.W. Bush extended that amnesty to family members who were not covered the first time around. I don't recall any uproar at the time from Republicans in Congress.

The ONLY reason Republicans are so adamantly against immigration reform now is because a Democrat occupies the White House.

[NumberSix]

It's not entirely shocking that lefties are ok with a complete miscarriage of justice as long as they get what they want.

To be fair though, it seems like most lefties are clueless about the Supreme Court process and are likely unaware that there even was a miscarriage of justice.

At least 4 Supreme Court justices should be impeached.

[ThePhantomCreep]

:wtf:

Yes, only the Federal Government should have the right to exercise this majority tyranny you speak of, which is what it has just done.

The Supreme Court long ago forget its mandate of upholding the Constitution and instead started pandering pathetically to public opinion. Its effectiveness as a restraint on government power is long gone. Comparing allowing states to retain the definition of marriage they have upheld for centuries to Jim Crow segregation and disempowerment really shows what a ****ing clueless bellend you are. I see nothing wrong with the comparison. Tell me what makes same sex bans different from the interracial bans of yesteryear?


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[Springsteen]

Which group is typically anti-Israel?

Being anti-Israel doesn't automatically mean anti-Semitic. Being anti same sex marriage doesn't automatically mean anti-gay.

Why should America support Isreal's wars? The US has been giving billions in military aid to Israel every year since forever.

Meanwhile, all the Israelis do is thumb their nose at us, disparage our president, and try to influence our elections. Their towering disrespect for our country is ridiculous and insulting and we should have cut them off a long time ago. Netanyahu, Abbas, Hamas, all of it can take a hike. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of this country footing the bill for it.

[ThePhantomCreep]

It's not entirely shocking that lefties are ok with a complete miscarriage of justice as long as they get what they want.

To be fair though, it seems like most lefties are clueless about the Supreme Court process and are likely unaware that there even was a miscarriage of justice.

At least 4 Supreme Court justices should be impeached.


The equal protection clause in the 14th amendment has influenced numerous landmark rulings over the years, including "Loving v. Virginia".

Why does this ruling have you so hurt in the butt?

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=ThePhantomCreep]I see nothing wrong with the comparison. Tell me what makes same sex bans different from the interracial bans of yesteryear?


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[NumberSix]

The equal protection clause in the 14th amendment has influenced numerous landmark rulings over the years, including "Loving v. Virginia".

Why does this ruling have you so hurt in the butt?
Their judgments weren't based on the equal protection clause. Maybe you shouldn't be in this conversation.

[DonDadda59]

The equal protection clause in the 14th amendment has influenced numerous landmark rulings over the years, including "Loving v. Virginia".

Why does this ruling have you so hurt in the butt?

The film about that will start filming later this summer in Virginia. Should be out next year in time for award season. Perfect timing.

[PistolPete]

Why should America support Isreal's wars? The US has been giving billions in military aid to Israel every year since forever.

Meanwhile, all the Israelis do is thumb their nose at us, disparage our president, and try to influence our elections. Their towering disrespect for our country is ridiculous and insulting and we should have cut them off a long time ago. Netanyahu, Abbas, Hamas, all of it can take a hike. I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of this country footing the bill for it.




What in the holy hell are you talking about?

[ThePhantomCreep]

Their judgments weren't based on the equal protection clause. Maybe you shouldn't be in this conversation.

I'd say it played a part. It certainly did with the man who cast the majority vote:

"... liberty promised by the Fourteenth Amendment is derived, too, from that Amendment’s guarantee of the equal protection of the laws. The Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause are connected in a profound way, though they set forth independent principles. Rights implicit in liberty and rights secured by equal protection may rest on different precepts and are not always coextensive, yet in some instances each may be instructive as to the meaning and reach of the other." - Justice Kennedy

BTW, did you seriously just compare same sex marriage to gender divided bathrooms? Pretty obvious you're fuming about this decision. ****ing Bushbots :facepalm.

[NumberSix]

I'd say it played a part. It certainly did with the man who cast the majority vote:

"... liberty promised by the Fourteenth Amendment is derived, too, from that Amendment’s guarantee of the equal protection of the laws. The Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause are connected in a profound way, though they set forth independent principles. Rights implicit in liberty and rights secured by equal protection may rest on different precepts and are not always coextensive, yet in some instances each may be instructive as to the meaning and reach of the other." - Justice Kennedy

BTW, did you seriously just compare same sex marriage to gender divided bathrooms? Pretty obvious you're fuming about this decision. ****ing Bushbots :facepalm.
You notice I keep saying "4 of the 5 justices"? Kennedy is the one I'm leaving out.

So, answer the question. What's to stop the Supreme Court from going back to the due process clause for a 3rd time and reversing the decision?

[Droid101]

The democrats have always been the anti-black party. Nice try.
Your trolling is tiresome.

[Yoda]

The dark side I sense in Ted Cruz.