Whats this crap about Lebron taking a "wait and see" approach wit The Cavs?

[HOoopCityJones]

I don't know if anyone else has read the reports about Lebron taking a wait and see approach before re up with Cleveland to see what they surround him with?

Sup with this dude? Is he gonna really sit back a bait this Team into making moves he doesn't like, similar to what he did in Miami and then bail? :biggums:

Mind you, he's already said he's not recruiting Kevin Love. I know there's no way he's leaving again because it'd be career suicide (unless he goes back down south) but damn, this playing with people shit is how Miami wasted a pick on Shabazz Napier.

[Quickening]

It's almost as if how good a players team mates are makes a difference... Like when Kobe demanded a trade unless roster improved.

Stupid kunt OP

[dubeta]

If you're the alpha of a team, you wait and see what the team does for you


If you're an egotistical money-grubbing fraud, you take half the teams cap even when you're past your prime.

[HOoopCityJones]

It's almost as if how good a players team mates are makes a difference... Like when Kobe demanded a trade unless roster improved.

Stupid kunt OP

What about the players they're waiting to get healthy that helped them get to the Finals? Cavs have players , homeboy just looking for an excuse to leave.

If Bron was smart he'd be K.Love's best friend this Summer. But he doesn't want to , so that says to me it might be a clear sign to the front office he wants them to go in a different direction , a lot of other of bigs on the open market. (like LMA)

Also, stay outta your stan ass feelings.

[jlip]

It's called, "Let's see how much we can keep the biggest star in the league in the news despite actually having nothing truly newsworthy to report about him."

[buddha]

it's LeBron knowing he needs 2 superstars as teammates if he wants to win so if Love leaves LeBron will leave too, probably goes back to MIA.

[RedBlackAttack]

It's called, "Let's see how much we can keep the biggest star in the league in the news despite actually having nothing truly newsworthy to report about him."
^^^ That right there.

[HOoopCityJones]

^^^ That right there.

Sure it is RBA, you've never seen anything wrong pertaining to The Cavs yet. :lol

[RedBlackAttack]

Sure it is RBA, you've never seen anything wrong pertaining to The Cavs yet. :lol
Huh? I honestly don't even know what you mean. I don't even really like LeBron. He just happens to play for the team I root for.

But, you really believe there's a chance he leaves? Really?

[HOoopCityJones]

Huh? I honestly don't even know what you mean. I don't even really like LeBron. He just happens to play for the team I root for.

But, you really believe there's a chance he leaves? Really?

I said I didn't in the OP.

But this type of strategy he's using with the FO is similar to what he did before he left the first time and when he left Miami. Distant, playing coy about what he really wants pertaining to Blatt, Love etc. "wait and see" what moves they make should scare the shit outta Cavs fans coming from this guy. Especially since you guys didn't have a bad Team, they were just banged up.

But from an image, marketing standpoint I don't think he leaves. "All in" and I'm coming home shit isn't gonna be easily forgotten over night so I think he's cuffed , but then again I thought he'd never leave a contender like Miami.

[RedBlackAttack]

I said I didn't in the OP.

But this type of strategy he's using with the FO is similar to what he did before he left the first time and when he left Miami. Distant, playing coy about what he really wants pertaining to Blatt, Love etc. "wait and see" what moves they make should scare the shit outta Cavs fans coming from this guy. Especially since you guys didn't have a bad Team, they were just banged up.

But from an image, marketing standpoint I don't think he leaves. "All in" and I'm coming home shit isn't gonna be easily forgotten over night so I think he's cuffed , but then again I thought he'd never leave a contender like Miami.
I think it is more a money thing than a leverage thing. After writing the letter and all the lip service about bringing a championship to Cleveland, he almost can't leave. Well, he could, but the PR repurrcussions would be catastrophic. He'd be a laughing stock.

He knows it. The fans know it. The Cavs know it.

That's why all Cavs fans are worried about right now is whether or not Kevin Love is coming back. You don't see Cavs fans freaking out about LeBron being a free agent, because it's crazy to even consider his leaving again.

I guess what I'm saying is, if everyone knows that he's painted himself into a corner in terms of his options, why should the Cavs even care if he's playing coy?

[HOoopCityJones]

I think it is more a money thing than a leverage thing. After writing the letter and all the lip service about bringing a championship to Cleveland, he almost can't leave. Well, he could, but the PR repurrcussions would be catastrophic. He'd be a laughing stock.

He knows it. The fans know it. The Cavs know it.

That's why all Cavs fans are worried about right now is whether or not Kevin Love is coming back. You don't see Cavs fans freaking out about LeBron being a free agent, because it's crazy to even consider his leaving again.

I guess what I'm saying is, if everyone knows that he's painted himself into a corner in terms of his options, why should the Cavs even care if he's playing coy?


Only way he gets away with it is going bck to MIA imo. But I just can't see it.

[outbreak]

If he leaves he becomes the biggest joke in all sports history. Why is it his fault the heat took napier with a late first when he was mocked to go in the 15-20 range?

[Crimsonrain777]

I said I didn't in the OP.

But this type of strategy he's using with the FO is similar to what he did before he left the first time and when he left Miami. Distant, playing coy about what he really wants pertaining to Blatt, Love etc. "wait and see" what moves they make should scare the shit outta Cavs fans coming from this guy. Especially since you guys didn't have a bad Team, they were just banged up.

But from an image, marketing standpoint I don't think he leaves. "All in" and I'm coming home shit isn't gonna be easily forgotten over night so I think he's cuffed , but then again I thought he'd never leave a contender like Miami.

Lebron would be crucified worse than he was after the first time he left. i actually think it would affect his bottom line which is one of the few things he cares for.

Everyone will also acknowledge him as a fake because he would be going against what he said in the letter that was written for him last summer(even though we all know that there were other reasons not mentioned in the letter that contributed to his decision) Some people still do but that would be nothing compared to the backlash he'd get from this. He's not leaving, and i honestly don't see why he'd want to. Cleveland is still a powerhouse team with a core of Lebron, Kyrie, and Tristan. This is just filler news for the media to keep us clicking on links

[MellowYellow]

Dude can't win without a stacked team, he is just lucky to have been defaulted into the finals the past 2 years.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Considering guy can't win without THE most help in the league, why would he contemplate on leaving?

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[Hey Yo]

Considering guy can't win without THE most help in the league, why would he contemplate on leaving?

:confusedshrug:
B2B FMVP while leading his team the entire postseason in scoring, rebounding, assists and steals. So that means he got the most help from.....himself?

[dubeta]

B2B FMVP while leading his team the entire postseason in scoring, rebounding, assists and steals. So that means he got the most help from.....himself?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif


Outside of 2011-2012, LeBron has had absolute shit on his roster, its a wonder how he still has 2 rings

[sdot_thadon]

Op, guess you missed the other report that said while he hasn't spoke on exactly what he himself will do he has however been in constant contact with the front office this time around......

[Beastmode88]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif


Outside of 2011-2012, LeBron has had absolute shit on his roster, its a wonder how he still has 2 rings

http://i.imgur.com/iZ5yXC2.jpg

[raprap]

Considering guy can't win without THE most help in the league, why would he contemplate on leaving?

:confusedshrug:
:hammerhead:

[coin24]

Considering guy can't win without THE most help in the league, why would he contemplate on leaving?

:confusedshrug:


This:applause: :applause:

[Straight_Ballin]

I think it is more a money thing than a leverage thing. After writing the letter and all the lip service about bringing a championship to Cleveland, he almost can't leave. Well, he could, but the PR repurrcussions would be catastrophic. He'd be a laughing stock.

He knows it. The fans know it. The Cavs know it.

That's why all Cavs fans are worried about right now is whether or not Kevin Love is coming back. You don't see Cavs fans freaking out about LeBron being a free agent, because it's crazy to even consider his leaving again.

I guess what I'm saying is, if everyone knows that he's painted himself into a corner in terms of his options, why should the Cavs even care if he's playing coy?

If you think someone with a shitty childhood who wears "check my stats" shirts has the proper upbringing to really understand the bolded part, you are mistaken. It wasn't a problem the first time in Cleveland, it wasn't a problem in Miami, and it won't be a problem (in his mind) if he does it again.

[lilteapot]

Lebron is obviously staying, you people are just bored and need something to talk about

[gts]

Somebody from the Cavs fanbase explain to me the (Lebron's) rational behind not opting in for next season....

Not going to help cap space, he'd make more money next season.. he's obviously not going to leave or be taking offers from other teams... So what his thinking or is it a mystery to everyone.

[lilteapot]

Somebody from the Cavs fanbase explain to me the (Lebron's) rational behind not opting in for next season....

Not going to help cap space, he'd make more money next season.. he's obviously not going to leave or be taking offers from other teams... So what his thinking or is it a mystery to everyone.

Not a Cavs fan but it's something everyone saw coming. He'd opt out and opt back in to make way more money. It's really simple.

[MellowYellow]

Not a Cavs fan but it's something everyone saw coming. He'd opt out and opt back in to make way more money. It's really simple.

But how would that help his team? He is gonna be handicapping his team bigtime. His efficiency has already fallen off a cliff and its only gonna get worse. At 30 i could see it but a 5 year 150 mil contract at 32 would completely screw the cavs for a long time.

[lilteapot]

But how would that help his team? He is gonna be handicapping his team bigtime. His efficiency has already fallen off a cliff and its only gonna get worse. At 30 i could see it but a 5 year 150 mil contract at 32 would completely screw the cavs for a long time.
He just averaged 38 12 and 9 in a 6 game NBA Finals series.

[r15mohd]

Dude can't win without a stacked team, he is just lucky to have been defaulted into the finals the past 2 years.


And when's the last time a "non-stacked" team won the title? 2004 Pistons...and before that the Rockets?!? :rolleyes:

[r15mohd]

Somebody from the Cavs fanbase explain to me the (Lebron's) rational behind not opting in for next season....

Not going to help cap space, he'd make more money next season.. he's obviously not going to leave or be taking offers from other teams... So what his thinking or is it a mystery to everyone.


It's exactly the same reason Love opted out...the 1-1 options deals over the next couple years give them the advantage to get significantly higher. He even said this going into Cle last summer, that he's never been the highest paid player on his teams before and he feels he should be paid the highest rate...which no organization disagrees to...unlike opposing stans like MellowYellow, but for folks who actually see this objectively, it was going to happen as he knew the cap risings coming forth

[MellowYellow]

And when's the last time a "non-stacked" team won the title? 2004 Pistons...and before that the Rockets?!? :rolleyes:
2011 mavs 01 02 03 lakers just 2 stars and role players along with all the bulls ships.

[MellowYellow]

He just averaged 38 12 and 9 in a 6 game NBA Finals series.
on 47% ts and 40% usg. Those are impressive numbers, but you cant win with that efficiency.

[Prime_Shaq]

And when's the last time a "non-stacked" team won the title? 2004 Pistons...and before that the Rockets?!? :rolleyes:
00-02 Lakers
03 Spurs
11 Mavs

Those weren't stacked teams at all.

[miggyme1]

00-02 Lakers
03 Spurs
11 Mavs

Those weren't stacked teams at all.

I cant stand lebron but this is actually a good move by him.

Lets be honest, love is gone and i dont see the cavs keeping both varejao and mozgov. Mike miller,james jones,shawn marion, and kendrick perkins prolly wont be there next season.

Hell, i think the only locks to be wearing a cavs jersey next year as of today is kyrie,shumpert,thompson and possibly lebron.

I dont see the cavs keeping jr smith.... i never understood getting rid of waiters to get a guy like jr smith who is exactly the same. If jr smith had a "sixth man of the year" type season cavs would have been pretty much forced to give him a good chunk of change; something they were trying to avoid with waiters

[r15mohd]

2011 mavs 01 02 03 lakers just 2 stars and role players along with all the bulls ships.


Mavs def wasn't stacked
All the Bulls tho?!? You gotta be kidding...especially the 2nd 3peat...that team had MJ, Pip, Rodman and even 6th man Kukoc. Epitome of stacked
Also forgot the 2006 Heat...borderline stacked, superstar Wade and still an all-star level Shaq, plus vets like GP, etc

You could maybe say the 1st 3peat Bulls weren't stacked...but MJ Pippen Grant weren't no average players, either, and fully explains the 3 peat. Same goes for the 00-03 Lakers, Shaq is the most dominant player EVER, you had an all star in Kobe, Rice as the 3rd option and then vets who knew the game in/out like Harper to control the triangle.

They definitely were stacked to a degree...no need to down play it. Non-stacked squads would be teams like the Mavs and Pistons, Rockets too. Basically 1 superstar/all star caliber player and role fillers doing their diligence.

And again, this goes to combat your point that Lebron is the only player needing a stacked team to win...complete "Lebron hating mentality" because over the past 30 titles won in the NBA (if not more), only a handful of the teams were not stacked. So therefore a stacked team winning is not uncommon, it's actually the norm :rolleyes:

[DMAVS41]

2011 mavs 01 02 03 lakers just 2 stars and role players along with all the bulls ships.

the 3 peat Lakers were some of the most talented teams of the last 31 years to make the finals.

if you combine the talent rating of the supporting cast around Shaq...they have like the 1st and 3rd and 9th most talent.

they were completely stacked. Shaq/Kobe...surrounded by solid veteran role players and arguably the GOAT coach.

That is exactly what you want around those guys. You don't want a 3rd or 4th all star level player around Shaq/Kobe...it doesn't allow them to play at their optimal level at all.

[Nash]

its the only way for him to keep Dan Gilbert paying and not taking him for granted.

[aj1987]

Mavs def wasn't stacked
All the Bulls tho?!? You gotta be kidding...especially the 2nd 3peat...that team had MJ, Pip, Rodman and even 6th man Kukoc. Epitome of stacked
Also forgot the 2006 Heat...borderline stacked, superstar Wade and still an all-star level Shaq, plus vets like GP, etc

You could maybe say the 1st 3peat Bulls weren't stacked...but MJ Pippen Grant weren't no average players, either, and fully explains the 3 peat. Same goes for the 00-03 Lakers, Shaq is the most dominant player EVER, you had an all star in Kobe, Rice as the 3rd option and then vets who knew the game in/out like Harper to control the triangle.

They definitely were stacked to a degree...no need to down play it. Non-stacked squads would be teams like the Mavs and Pistons, Rockets too. Basically 1 superstar/all star caliber player and role fillers doing their diligence.

And again, this goes to combat your point that Lebron is the only player needing a stacked team to win...complete "Lebron hating mentality" because over the past 30 titles won in the NBA (if not more), only a handful of the teams were not stacked. So therefore a stacked team winning is not uncommon, it's actually the norm :rolleyes:
That team wasn't even close to being "stacked" GP was old as shit. 37, if I'm not mistaken. Shaq was still pretty good, though. Antoine Waker and J-Will were hot garbage as well. J-Will literally had two good games in the entire PO's. It was Wade and out of prime Shaq + role players/scrubs.

At least now, stop pretending to be a Heat fan. Another post in which you take a jab at Wade and the Heat and continuing to suck LeBron's dick.