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triangleoffense
06-27-2015, 06:11 PM
Outside of getting close in 2013-2014 seasons they've never even come close.. like getting eliminated in the 1st or 2nd rounds the next year... previous champions at least make it back to their conference championships.. does anyone have a theory on why that is? And you can only blame it on the age recently.. not like they were old in 99, 03 and 07.

I mean Popovich is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game.. Duncan the most consistent inside player of all time.. Parker and Ginobli are both lethal threats by themselves so even in case of injury they have backup guards to carry the load.

HOoopCityJones
06-27-2015, 06:24 PM
Spurs are consistent but they've never been as dominant over a short period of time like The Lakers.

I'd compare it to Track.

Phil specializes in sprints, or a dash. Pop is more cross country, long distance running.

Kblaze8855
06-27-2015, 06:26 PM
Winning 5 rings with the same basic core having won 4 of them is too amazing for me to care in what order they were won. Its amazingly hard to win one ring. Not winning two back to back in the process of winning 5 doesnt suggest anything negative enough for me to even ponder on why it happened. Its like trying to figure out why someone who won the lottery 5 times never won twice in the same year.

The immense difficulty of doing it once in your life is too great for me to care about the timing of someone who did it 5 times.

Its the absolute peak of "So what...." nitpicking to me.

Im not saying its a stupid thing to talk about...by all means discuss it....I just dont see that its something to worry about.

DMAVS41
06-27-2015, 06:27 PM
Outside of getting close in 2013-2014 seasons they've never even come close.. like getting eliminated in the 1st or 2nd rounds the next year... previous champions at least make it back to their conference championships.. does anyone have a theory on why that is? And you can only blame it on the age recently.. not like they were old in 99, 03 and 07.

I mean Popovich is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game.. Duncan the most consistent inside player of all time.. Parker and Ginobli are both lethal threats by themselves so even in case of injury they have backup guards to carry the load.


Meh...they were a legendary Dirk game 7 and game tying play in 06 away from a likely 3 peat.

HOoopCityJones
06-27-2015, 06:36 PM
Meh...they were a legendary Dirk game 7 and game tying play in 06 away from a likely 3 peat.

I love how most stars outside of Kobe and Lebron get props for almost doing shit as opposed to actually succeeding. Cp3 and Duncan.

Guess half the league shoulda went to Lake Forest.

Spurs5Rings2014
06-27-2015, 06:38 PM
Unlucky.

2000 - Duncan out for the play offs due to injury.
2004 - .4 second Fisher buzzer beater.
2006 - Manu foul.
2013 - Ray Allen.
2015 - Plethora of injuries.

Noyze
06-27-2015, 06:43 PM
2000 Duncan was injured in the playoffs.
2004 Fisher's 0.4 shot.
2006 One of the greatest epic 7 game series with Dallas. Ginobli fouls in over time.
2008 ??
2015 Epic 7 game series with Clippers. CP3 Shot.

Spurs5Rings2014
06-27-2015, 07:10 PM
2000 Duncan was injured in the playoffs.
2004 Fisher's 0.4 shot.
2006 One of the greatest epic 7 game series with Dallas. Ginobli fouls in over time.
2008 ??
2015 Epic 7 game series with Clippers. CP3 Shot.

One play in almost every series is what separates us from 3-5peating multiple times.

Pointguard
06-27-2015, 07:18 PM
One play in almost every series is what separates us from 3-5peating multiple times.

Meh...they were a legendary Dirk game 7 and game tying play in 06 away from a likely 3 peat.

Repeat is before 3 peat.

The small plays are the things that get away from you when you try to repeat, that's why its so hard.

T_L_P
06-27-2015, 07:21 PM
Not like they were old in 99? Are you fcking serious, kid?

Here was the age of their players by MPG:

Duncan - 22
Johnson - 33
Robinson - 33
Elliot - 30
Ellie - 35
Jackson - 32
Kerr - 33
Kersey - 36
Rose - 24
Perdue - 33

They had one good player under 30. The average age of the team was 31 (that's two years older than the oldest team last year, genius). The lockout started talks of them having to start truly competing the year after when the schedule wouldn't have been so harsh (they obviously proved that wrong by season's end).

Just :oldlol:

JimmyMcAdocious
06-27-2015, 07:23 PM
Spurs also had some stuff go there way. Without Sheed's mistake, Pistons probably repeat in 2005. Stat and Diaw getting suspended sure helped them in 2007.

It's pretty rare for a team to be so much better than the field in the NBA. Usually takes a thing or two to go your way to have to win it all. Look at the Warriors's run, and I thought they were head and shoulders better than the NBA in the regular season. Based on what I saw in the playoffs, I'm not sure they beat the Spurs if the Spurs can win that Game 7 against LAC.

Spurs5Rings2014
06-27-2015, 07:25 PM
Not like they were old in 99? Are you fcking serious, kid?

Here was the age of their players by MPG:

Duncan - 22
Johnson - 33
Robinson - 33
Elliot - 30
Ellie - 35
Jackson - 32
Kerr - 33
Kersey - 36
Rose - 24
Perdue - 33

They had one good player under 30. The average age of the team was 31 (that's two years older than the oldest team last year, genius). The lockout started talks of them having to start truly competing the year after when the schedule wouldn't have been so harsh (they obviously proved that wrong by season's end).

Just :oldlol:

That guy has very little basketball knowledge, just ignore him.

Tycriss
06-27-2015, 07:34 PM
-Southwest Division
-Western Conf

24-Inch_Chrome
06-27-2015, 07:34 PM
Duncan > Kobe. Tim Duncan, hold this W.

http://media.tumblr.com/e16dd16f4de841b391f118f72714a54e/tumblr_inline_nbat9kBEXc1satqni.gif

DMAVS41
06-27-2015, 07:35 PM
Repeat is before 3 peat.

The small plays are the things that get away from you when you try to repeat, that's why its so hard.

He said they didn't even come close.

Which is just not accurate. The 06 Mavs would have been their toughest series in the entire playoffs.

The small plays are important for any team winning a title.

I still don't get why it's better to lose...then win 3 in a row...then lose

then it is to win 3 over a similar period of time.

but i don't care to debate this.

the Spurs were a couple plays away, really 1 play, from being heavy favorites to win it all in 06. that is close in my book.

Spurs5Rings2014
06-27-2015, 07:47 PM
Duncan > Kobe. Tim Duncan, hold this W.

http://media.tumblr.com/e16dd16f4de841b391f118f72714a54e/tumblr_inline_nbat9kBEXc1satqni.gif

http://media.tumblr.com/e16dd16f4de841b391f118f72714a54e/tumblr_inline_nbat9kBEXc1satqni.gif

Kobe_6/8
06-27-2015, 07:47 PM
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kobe+Bryant+Tim+Duncan+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+QtQVBV3 bX73l.jpg

Godbe wouldn't let them.

Spurs5Rings2014
06-27-2015, 07:52 PM
Shaq wouldn't let them.

Corrected for more accuracy.

PsychoBe
06-27-2015, 07:52 PM
Corrected for more accuracy.

where was shaq in 2008? :lol

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
06-27-2015, 07:55 PM
Kobe/Shaq 04
Dirk destroyed them in 06
Kobe destroyed them in 08
Ray destroyed them in 13
CP destroyed them last season

Ne 1
06-27-2015, 07:57 PM
where was shaq in 2008? :lol

Even so, Kobe was the MVP of the Spurs series not just in '08 without Shaq but in '01 and '02 as well. So it's still accurate to say Kobe wouldn't allow them to repeat.

T_L_P
06-27-2015, 08:00 PM
To address the OP:

The Spurs have never repeated because of a number of things. Injury (00 primarily), chokes (Duncan in 04, Parker and others numerous times), craziness (Fisher's miracle shot), running into better teams and better players (08 Lakers), and not being built to dominate in short stretches (only one transcendent superstar in 17 years whereas most repeat champions have two).

T_L_P
06-27-2015, 08:00 PM
Even so, Kobe was the MVP of the Spurs series not just in '08 without Shaq but in '01 and '02 as well. So it's still accurate to say Kobe wouldn't allow him to repeat.

Kobe was the Lakers MVP in 02, yes.

FKAri
06-27-2015, 08:06 PM
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kobe+Bryant+Tim+Duncan+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+QtQVBV3 bX73l.jpg

Godbe wouldn't let them.

Is Duncan's arm fused with Bryant's? :oldlol:

HOoopCityJones
06-27-2015, 08:08 PM
Is Duncan's arm fused with Bryant's? :oldlol:

He's smoothly caressing his ass.

TheBigVeto
06-29-2015, 08:49 PM
Prior to Stern retiring, it was Stern's evil deed. We all know he got pissed off everytime the Spurs won it all.

oarabbus
06-29-2015, 08:51 PM
Even so, Kobe was the MVP of the Spurs series not just in '08 without Shaq but in '01 and '02 as well. So it's still accurate to say Kobe wouldn't allow them to repeat.


Even so, Duncan > Kobe

24-Inch_Chrome
06-29-2015, 08:58 PM
Even so, Duncan > Kobe

This man knows. Hold this W.

rmt
06-29-2015, 08:59 PM
Lots of things have to go right to even win one championship:

1. (no) Injury
2. Luck
3. Playing well at the right time

Not easy to have it all come together at once. As a Spur fan, I have no complaints. You take the good with the bad - although 13 really, really hurt (SO close) and Manu's foul in 06 prevented what I think could have been a 3peat. Still I never dreamed of those last 3 games in 14 and I'm forever satisfied with that if they never win another championship. Although, I think if they had gotten past LAC (just playing Mills 10 more minutes/Parker 10 less minutes would have done it), they would have given GSW a run for their money.