San Antonio Spurs front office should be Investigated

[BallsOut]

If Kawhi Leonard takes anything less than a max (which he would get from other teams) or if Duncan takes less than a 10 mill per season contract. That would be a sign that they may be paying players under the table. :no:

[SCdac]

yeah, investigated for what they're doing right lol. have had one of the best paradigms in all of sports

[RRR3]

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[Rooster]

If Kawhi Leonard takes anything less than a max (which he would get from other teams) or if Duncan takes less than a 10 mill per season contract. That would be a sign that they may be paying players under the table. :no:

It does not defy logic at all. If it's like Joe Smith kind of paycut then yes it warrants an investigation.

[T_L_P]

They're already doing it for other players, as are other teams. :oldlol:

[toxicxr6]

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I'm not sure what Leonard will sign for but I hear Duncan will be in the 4-5m range

Let the butthurt begin

[BigNBAfan]

a big **** you to the guy that's making fun of the guy with downs.

[Spurs m8]

If Kawhi Leonard takes anything less than a max (which he would get from other teams) or if Duncan takes less than a 10 mill per season contract. That would be a sign that they may be paying players under the table. :no:

You really don't know how team sports work sometimes?
Have a look at the situation here before you start making stupid comments.

You must be a Lakers fan

[Crimsonrain777]

i'm actually pretty curious if something like this does go down somewhere. not to say that the spurs are doing it. But how would you prove that a team is paying somebody under the table if they were?

[MavsSuperFan]

if they were paying them under the table, as long as they arent comically stupid, it would be hard to track.

There are so many ways to increase someones net worth if you are a billionaire.

[CarlosBoozer]

NBA is a business, so of course teams pay under the table, pretty sure almost every team does it.

[Harison]

Spurs FO :bowdown:

[Sharmer]

The Spurs are about buying into a system. Once they have you converted they will have you play for much less than market value. They are the Scientology of the league.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Haters gonna hate and ain'ters gonna ain't.

:banana:

[niko]

No, but it's ****ed up how they treat Duncan. Spurs fans won't care because they care more about this year than being fair to their own players, but if they are asking him to take some ridiculously low salary for the good of the team (pressuring him basically) considering the financial issues he's had, that's pretty ****ed up. One of the greatest of all time, basically made that franchise, take a tiny salary on top of the half price we've had you at for a few years.

BUT WE NEED TO WIN...you should take care of your own at some point. At least to a reasonable degree.

Note: I'm not complaining about Duncan at $9/$10M, i'm talkign about if it's true they are really asking him to sign at $3M a yaer.

[Springsteen]

:djparty

[KelticForce1349]

No, but it's ****ed up how they treat Duncan. Spurs fans won't care because they care more about this year than being fair to their own players, but if they are asking him to take some ridiculously low salary for the good of the team (pressuring him basically) considering the financial issues he's had, that's pretty ****ed up. One of the greatest of all time, basically made that franchise, take a tiny salary on top of the half price we've had you at for a few years.

BUT WE NEED TO WIN...you should take care of your own at some point. At least to a reasonable degree.

Note: I'm not complaining about Duncan at $9/$10M, i'm talkign about if it's true they are really asking him to sign at $3M a yaer.


What "financial issues" is Duncan having? How can we sit here and say that 5 million dollars is worth more than the glory of another championship to a player like Duncan? Maybe he loves Basketball so damn much or maybe he wants to ascend even higher in the history books?

Could it bee that a player of Tim Duncan's caliber is willing to bet on himself to make money after his playing days are over? Does anyone honestly believe that Duncan will not have a job with the Spurs in some capacity for the rest of his life?

[Derka]

What "financial issues" is Duncan having? How can we sit here and say that 5 million dollars is worth more than the glory of another championship to a player like Duncan? Maybe he loves Basketball so damn much or maybe he wants to ascend even higher in the history books?

Could it bee that a player of Tim Duncan's caliber is willing to bet on himself to make money after his playing days are over? Does anyone honestly believe that Duncan will not have a job with the Spurs in some capacity for the rest of his life?

He's referencing this. (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13105201/tim-duncan-san-antonio-spurs-alleges-lost-more-20-million-financial-adviser)

Timmy's still got beaucoup dollars, though. He can take whatever he wants.

[KelticForce1349]

He's referencing this. (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13105201/tim-duncan-san-antonio-spurs-alleges-lost-more-20-million-financial-adviser)

Timmy's still got beaucoup dollars, though. He can take whatever he wants.


Thanks for helping me out with the financial aspect. :cheers:

[niko]

What "financial issues" is Duncan having? How can we sit here and say that 5 million dollars is worth more than the glory of another championship to a player like Duncan? Maybe he loves Basketball so damn much or maybe he wants to ascend even higher in the history books?

Could it bee that a player of Tim Duncan's caliber is willing to bet on himself to make money after his playing days are over? Does anyone honestly believe that Duncan will not have a job with the Spurs in some capacity for the rest of his life?
The Spurs shouldn't lowball Duncan to that degree considering what he's done for them. The fact he'd do it makes it worse, not better. Take advantage of the great guy who is as the core of your franchise.

[clutchinho]

No, but it's ****ed up how they treat Duncan. Spurs fans won't care because they care more about this year than being fair to their own players, but if they are asking him to take some ridiculously low salary for the good of the team (pressuring him basically) considering the financial issues he's had, that's pretty ****ed up. One of the greatest of all time, basically made that franchise, take a tiny salary on top of the half price we've had you at for a few years.

BUT WE NEED TO WIN...you should take care of your own at some point. At least to a reasonable degree.

Note: I'm not complaining about Duncan at $9/$10M, i'm talkign about if it's true they are really asking him to sign at $3M a yaer.

Agreed, if a player of Duncan's stature took $3m a year that'd maybe explain why Duncan got screwed by his wife and then his financial advisors.

You're Tim Duncan. You eat first, and if a ringless Aldridge wants the honor of playing with the great Tim Duncan let him take the paycut.

[KendrickPerkins]

The Spurs shouldn't lowball Duncan to that degree considering what he's done for them. The fact he'd do it makes it worse, not better. Take advantage of the great guy who is as the core of your franchise.
you mean what THEY have done for him?

they don't owe him anything. jesus ****ing christ.

[HurricaneKid]

He's referencing this. (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13105201/tim-duncan-san-antonio-spurs-alleges-lost-more-20-million-financial-adviser)

Timmy's still got beaucoup dollars, though. He can take whatever he wants.

Please also understand that was FOUND because he is getting a divorce that will likely be far MORE costly as well.

If everyone under the sun is getting enormous offers and Timmy ends up making 5M... Just no.

[hawksdogsbraves]

No, but it's ****ed up how they treat Duncan. Spurs fans won't care because they care more about this year than being fair to their own players, but if they are asking him to take some ridiculously low salary for the good of the team (pressuring him basically) considering the financial issues he's had, that's pretty ****ed up. One of the greatest of all time, basically made that franchise, take a tiny salary on top of the half price we've had you at for a few years.

BUT WE NEED TO WIN...you should take care of your own at some point. At least to a reasonable degree.

Note: I'm not complaining about Duncan at $9/$10M, i'm talkign about if it's true they are really asking him to sign at $3M a yaer.

Tom Brady has been taking paycuts for years. When guys are on these dynasties and have already made tons of money they sometimes care more about their legacies than making an extra $10 million.

Dirk did the same sort of thing in Dallas.

[UK2K]

If Kawhi Leonard takes anything less than a max (which he would get from other teams) or if Duncan takes less than a 10 mill per season contract. That would be a sign that they may be paying players under the table. :no:

That's what happens when you build a winning culture. People will play at a discount to be a part of it.

[Alamо]

No, but it's ****ed up how they treat Duncan. Spurs fans won't care because they care more about this year than being fair to their own players, but if they are asking him to take some ridiculously low salary for the good of the team (pressuring him basically) considering the financial issues he's had, that's pretty ****ed up. One of the greatest of all time, basically made that franchise, take a tiny salary on top of the half price we've had you at for a few years.

BUT WE NEED TO WIN...you should take care of your own at some point. At least to a reasonable degree.

Note: I'm not complaining about Duncan at $9/$10M, i'm talkign about if it's true they are really asking him to sign at $3M a yaer.



Nobody thinks Duncan is taking 3M a year :facepalm

[Derka]

Agreed, if a player of Duncan's stature took $3m a year that'd maybe explain why Duncan got screwed by his wife and then his financial advisors.

You're Tim Duncan. You eat first, and if a ringless Aldridge wants the honor of playing with the great Tim Duncan let him take the paycut.

In theory, I agree completely. In reality, they just don't do it that way.

Let's not forget...Duncan pretty much coasts through the regular season (the games he's actually earning that salary for) and has for years. Come the playoffs (different pay schedule entirely), that's when he finally kicks it into gear.

[Alamо]

One of the top 5 highest paid basketball players of all time.

Financial issues lol

If you're gonna be a hater Niko, then stop acting like you know what you're talking about and come out and say you're a hater.


Also OP, the Spurs are already offering Kawhi the Max, Tim Duncan close to what he made the past couple of years. The player in question would be Danny Green, not Tim or Kawhi, who other teams are offering more money for anyway.

"Spurs looking to re-sign Kawhi Leonard to a five-year max deal. With Leonard in the fold, the Spurs will immediately focus their attention on UFA Aldridge. The fear is that they won't have enough room left to retain Danny Green, who has attracted interest from the Mavs, Blazers and Pistons"


Funny how shaken up people get about the Spurs trying to sign a FA for once in the past million years. Basketball is still a business.

[Derka]

Duncan made what, $10 million the past couple seasons? $220 million or something over his career in just basketball salary? Yeah, he's not starving but SA isn't going to throw $3 million at him. I'm almost certain they have this worked out in advance of the Kawhi deal and any attempted UFA signings they make.

I remember that 2-for-$10 million deal was exactly the deal Ray Allen signed for his last contract in Boston before they came down to $6ish million in his next free agency the year he went to Miami...and he took $3 million to play there and chase a ring. Players will take less for the right situation.

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[PP34Deuce]

Duncan made what, $10 million the past couple seasons? $220 million or something over his career in just basketball salary? Yeah, he's not starving but SA isn't going to throw $3 million at him. I'm almost certain they have this worked out in advance of the Kawhi deal and any attempted UFA signings they make.

I remember that 2-for-$10 million deal was exactly the deal Ray Allen signed for his last contract in Boston before they came down to $6ish million in his next free agency the year he went to Miami...and he took $3 million to play there and chase a ring. Players will take less for the right situation.

I can see Duncan taking a 6-7 million dollar salary. He doesn't need practice reps and has flexibility to miss games if he's tired. He's at a good place right now.

[iamgine]

What is Duncan worth for 1 season?

[HurricaneKid]

What is Duncan worth for 1 season?

No one could convince me he wouldn't make 15M+ on the open market. That is Brandon Knight/Chandler Parsons money.

He has ~234M in career earnings. Half goes to taxes/agent/etc. That leaves 117M. He got taken for 25M. Brings him to 92M. Wife gets half. That takes him to 46M. He spent a bunch. Its been a rough decade for investments. Who knows where he is at but rest assured, he doesn't have as much as he should at this point. Still plenty for most of us but taking discounts should be off the table.

Also, in 2 years when the cap is 109M as announced by the league, the max salary will be > 5/221M.

[SsKSpurs21]

here you go...

[QUOTE]There are several NBA player personnel executives who believe the Spurs will offer Duncan a two-year contract that begins between $6 million and $7 million, with a partial guarantee and a player option in the second season.

If Duncan doesn

[MavsSuperFan]

No, but it's ****ed up how they treat Duncan. Spurs fans won't care because they care more about this year than being fair to their own players, but if they are asking him to take some ridiculously low salary for the good of the team (pressuring him basically) considering the financial issues he's had, that's pretty ****ed up. One of the greatest of all time, basically made that franchise, take a tiny salary on top of the half price we've had you at for a few years.

BUT WE NEED TO WIN...you should take care of your own at some point. At least to a reasonable degree.

Note: I'm not complaining about Duncan at $9/$10M, i'm talkign about if it's true they are really asking him to sign at $3M a yaer.
there is not a single fanbase in the world that cares about their players more than their team.

Kobe and lebron stans aside, who really are not fans of that particular team.