What's up with Dante Exum

[Inferno]

He was hella hyped up for awhile :coleman:

[RightTwoCensor]

Exposed.

Didn't come in the league with any great skill, was average to passable in everything. Can't defend if his life depended on it.

He's still a project, but I can't see him develop as an All-Star with Utah's staff.

[uber]

turned 19 two weeks ago .. hard to judge if a player is still this young ..

[toxicxr6]

Exposed.

Didn't come in the league with any great skill, was average to passable in everything. Can't defend if his life depended on it.

He's still a project, but I can't see him develop as an All-Star with Utah's staff.


See shows you have no idea what you are talking about
His defense was actually quite good.. And the reason he was getting minutes the second half of the season
He is raw and young but most people still think he has potential
A lot of players break out later in their career and he might be one of those players

He is going to be an elite defender at least which means he will be in the league for sometime given elite defensive guards are very important right now

[dubeta]

He's as good as Steph was back at 19- give him time

[RightTwoCensor]

See shows you have no idea what you are talking about
His defense was actually quite good.. And the reason he was getting minutes the second half of the season
He is raw and young but most people still think he has potential
A lot of players break out later in their career and he might be one of those players

He is going to be an elite defender at least which means he will be in the league for sometime given elite defensive guards are very important right now
I looked up Jazz fans' reactions to Dante Exum's rookie season and they still think he needs work. His mentality as a NBA player is very passive, you'd think a 6'6" PG could average two rebounds a game regardless if he's not playing starter minutes.

The best thing going for him if his physical attributes, and even the tough get going that's not gonna win games.

[RightTwoCensor]

In not saying he's gonna be a bust, I'm just pointing out fields on which he needs to improve on.

Compared to the hype he was getting predraft with people talking about he's the next Kobe to him being the next Penny, his rookie season was highly disappointing.

[CarlosBoozer]

Rookies don't become instant stars unlike before, it takes time. Dante is incredibly raw but still has potential to be a defensive PG with good passing, hopefully he can improve his shot.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I think he's going to be of those where it clicks way later in his career. Something like Billups or Chandler. Got to remember the competition he's played most of his life is whatever he played against in Australia. I'm sure they ball fine there, but I doubt it's like the US. I read from some high school scouts that they thought he might initially struggle if he went to college for his freshman year. To make the jump straight to the NBA? At the deepest position in the league? His learning curve is steeper than most.

I would honestly wait until his second contract to get an idea of him. Tho I'm sure his critics and Jazz fans won't be so patient.

[GimmeThat]

the Gordon Hayward money

this is how coaches job gets on the line

trusting, but more importantly, observing your players
on who takes the Tony Kukoc shot
without pleasing everyone, while attempt to keep the chemistry in check


this is to me what D'Antoni sort of lacked because he had Steve Nash,
and perhaps in his argument that only great players go deep into the playoffs
he can then also argue that its the team captains job on keeping the team stable


empty stats
what you call someone who gets paid big money, not leading their team into winning record. having their statistics taking a minor dip, and team performance improves

ask effort, check and balance, without a voice
opinion that has/always/will, filled with minor adjustments
by the committee of one

[coin24]

He looked good when they finally let him start, great passer and the Jazz were rolling post all star break.

He needs to be much more aggressive and look to score more

[outbreak]

I think he still pans out but he's no more promising a prospect then payton clarkson or smart

[RightTwoCensor]

Random Stat (not saying he'll bust or not):

For any rookie in NBA History to play 1800 minutes, Dante Exum has the third lowest PPG average, thirty-fifth lowest APG average for Guards, and is dead last in PER.

[raprap]

He's peak is prime Thabo.

[Sportal]

I don't know how he was playing when he was starting and the Jazz were one of the best teams in the league. But I do know he was starting during that run, which is a good sign to me.

Didn't his 3pt shot become better? Wasn't he billed as "having no shot", coming into the season, especially 3pt?

Also, the dude would be one of the youngest in THIS year's draft, would he not? I think he'll be fine after an off-season.

I can't imagine how hard it would be to play and keep your confidence up in a PG heavy league. You have to be already quite special to stand out, he's so raw.

I would suggest that Smart's season was quite disappointing too tbh.

[Sharmer]

Bad coach and team. He needs to get a shooters mentality.

[Xiao Yao You]

In not saying he's gonna be a bust, I'm just pointing out fields on which he needs to improve on.

Compared to the hype he was getting predraft with people talking about he's the next Kobe to him being the next Penny, his rookie season was highly disappointing.
Supposedly he's grown taller and bigger. Might be the next Penny still. If he can hit the 3 ball consistently he's at worst a 3 and D player. He's unselfish. He had a couple nice stretches at the end of the year.


The best thing going for him if his physical attributes, and even the tough get going that's not gonna win games.
They were one of the best teams at the end of the year with him starting.


Tho I'm sure his critics and Jazz fans won't be so patient.
Nope. At minimum he has to be able to hit an open 3 this year consistently. Otherwise he should be in the D-league. Jazz should be a top team. They can't give minutes away to Exum, Burke and others this year if they aren't earned. The tanking is over! :cheers:


Didn't his 3pt shot become better? Wasn't he billed as "having no shot", coming into the season, especially 3pt?
Yeah he looked a lot better than anyone expected. Has to be more consistent.


Bad coach and team.
Jury is still out on the coach but Gobert has made them a top team.

[CakeorDeath]

Exposed.

Didn't come in the league with any great skill, was average to passable in everything. Can't defend if his life depended on it.

He's still a project, but I can't see him develop as an All-Star with Utah's staff.

Defense was the only reason he was on the court. He's already very solid there with a chance to be exceptional. Gobert gets all the credit for the Jazz's league-leading defense because he has all the sexy stats, but Exum deserves a ton of credit. He made dribbled penetration much harder for opposing guards, and defense starts from the perimeter.

Offensively, he was literally asked to do nothing. He would dribble up to half court and then the offense would run through Hayward or Trey Burke, depending on who was on the court. Exum would just float to one of the corners and shoot only when he was wide open or when the clock was running out. Check the stats; something like 60% of his FGA were threes. He didn't shoot a single free throw for like 2 whole months; insane for a PG until you realize all we was on O was a Matt Bonner type spot up 3 pt shooter.

Jazz are being very deliberate with him. Play great defense, learn offensive skills slowly. He'll be fine.

[Jameerthefear]

jazz aren't developing him very well imo

[alec613]

I'd trade Clarkson for him

[unknowns8]

turned 19 two weeks ago .. hard to judge if a player is still this young ..




https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/I_Was_Only_Nineteen.jpg

:cheers:

:rockon:

[JtotheIzzo]

No Excuses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcFFEjq5Ap8


Olivier Hanlan>>>

[Phenith]

The team played very good defense with Exum at the point after the Kanter trade. He has a lot of work to do, but you have to keep in mind that he wasn't a focal point of the team, he was more along for the ride. We won't truly see what kind of player he is for a few more seasons, but enjoy the ride Jazz fans because I still think he is going to be a star.

[Jameerthefear]

The team played very good defense with Exum at the point after the Kanter trade. He has a lot of work to do, but you have to keep in mind that he wasn't a focal point of the team, he was more along for the ride. We won't truly see what kind of player he is for a few more seasons, but enjoy the ride Jazz fans because I still think he is going to be a star.
most of that had to do with gobert though.

[Xiao Yao You]

jazz aren't developing him very well imo

He should have been in the D-League at least for games. Who knows he may be a lot furthur ahead in his development if they'd done that. I'd send him there this year too if he doesn't improve. They need more offense.

[Jameerthefear]

He should have been in the D-League at least for games. Who knows he may be a lot furthur ahead in his development if they'd done that. I'd send him there this year too if he doesn't improve. They need more offense.
Agreed. He needs experience running an offense as the PG. Right now it's kinda weird because offensively he's just sort of "there".

[SwishSquared]

Jazz maintained their great defense even when Gobert was off the floor post-Kanter trade. Favors & others stepped up and deserve credit, but Exum performed very well defensively for a rookie point guard. If his 3 ball pans out, he's a rich man's Beverly if he develops no other offensive skills.

He really needs to work on his ball handling and playmaking, but he's got good passing vision. Not sure what their plan is for him this year but maybe they force him to handle the ball more. I'd imagine he continues starting barring some big signing in FA.

[Xiao Yao You]

Jazz maintained their great defense even when Gobert was off the floor post-Kanter trade. Favors & others stepped up and deserve credit, but Exum performed very well defensively for a rookie point guard. If his 3 ball pans out, he's a rich man's Beverly if he develops no other offensive skills.

He really needs to work on his ball handling and playmaking, but he's got good passing vision. Not sure what their plan is for him this year but maybe they force him to handle the ball more. I'd imagine he continues starting barring some big signing in FA.

They need a proven vet anyway you look at it. Right now Alec Burks should be their pg as far as I'm concerned. Need someone else proven. They have money and assets so there is no excuse for the Jazz to have guys on the floor next year that haven't earned it and Exum and Burke haven't.

[Levity]

The kids going to be a great defensive PG in the coming years. He's deceptively quick.

[Xiao Yao You]

He's also long. They say he's grown taller and bigger too!

[RRR3]

Didn't watch the Jazz last year, and I know he's really young and was a rookie, but good lord were his stats atrocious.


Even Per 36 they were awful

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/exumda01.html


:eek:

[CarlosBoozer]

He's also long. They say he's grown taller and bigger too!
:lebronamazed:

[Sportal]

I guess no-one wants to talk about the kid when he's showing progress.

:confusedshrug:

[Done_And_Done]

Looked pretty damn good from the few quarters that I watched yesterday. He still needs to work on his shot but he's coming along. Kid is gunna be a fine player

[longtime lurker]

Seems to be on that Boris Diaw offseason diet.

[West-Side]

What exactly has Garnett, McGrady and Kobe done at 18 years of age? :facepalm

Give the kid some time.
I remember Kobe throwing up air balls against the Jazz and people were calling him a bust. What happened?

I remember Tracy struggling with Toronto his first year or so before starting to slow the game down.