The GOAT Wrestler.....

[9erempiree]

This deserves its own thread.....Listen to that pop. Look at that ovation. Hear that screaming. Wrestler getting professional sports like cheers!

https://instagram.com/p/4dbQDZIh5a/?taken-by=therock

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Stone Cold takes dirty, nasty baby shts on Rocky

Rock isnt even top 10:lol :lol

[9erempiree]

Another angle....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcAtIKjTnCs

[iTare]

easy list

shawn
taker
rock
austin
flair

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

easy list

shawn
taker
rock
austin
flair
take off rock for Terry Funk or Jerry Lawler:applause: not sure about Taker...........GOAT gimmick w/ deadman but that bad@zz sht and everything else he did was wack:biggums:

Flair is the GOAT BTW

[ArbitraryWater]

yep, whoever drafts this man wins whatever they were doing

[rezznor]

i'm really happy for his post wrestling success. he seems like a genuinely good guy.

[9erempiree]

This version of Rock shits on many dudes and it shows you how great the Rock was when people can debate which version is GOAT.
http://www.wwe.com/f/reign/image/2013/04/rock_rumblle_99.jpg

Heck, these are my top 3 Wrestlers of all time:

Corporate Rock
Face Rock
Hollywood Rock

Only downside is this current version of the Rock. He is borderline shooting/kayfabing and don't like that.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Hollywood Rock is goat

Verbally ran trains on Hogan, Austin, Goldberg

[ArbitraryWater]

Hollywood Rock was epic

[9erempiree]

I remember as a kid and probably now would get goosebumps when he did this....

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/r/rock/01.jpg

https://youtu.be/nRCgUOqHzA0?t=22s

There was that moment when he lifts his arm and you can see shit loads of camera flashes in the background. :applause:

[CavaliersFTW]

This deserves its own thread.....Listen to that pop. Look at that ovation. Hear that screaming. Wrestler getting professional sports like cheers!

https://instagram.com/p/4dbQDZIh5a/?taken-by=therock
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2d0qps_wwf-wrestlemania-xviii-the-rock-vs-hollywood-hogan_sport

I think this match proved it was Hogan, crowd was turning on the Rock despite Rock being a face while Hogan was playing a heel.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Corporate Rock was great too

Anyone watched Rock vs Mankind...royal rumble '99?

Most brutal match ever

[9erempiree]

This is my favorite match from Rock and Mankind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRBZuQK6jg4

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sickgrrrl75/JeffHardy5.jpg

http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/94c5403cf75f518b45c24f81d7dd3019/http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00722/Jeff_Hardy_722687a.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

when i think of jeff hardy i remember him getting destroyed by Brock and murdered by CM PunK:lol :lol

[Batz]

Jeff Hardy's career highlight is getting speared by Edge off a ladder.


http://i.imgur.com/f0VlUDU.gif

[L.Kizzle]

Between

Buff Bagwell
Val Venis
Ernest 'the Cat' Miller
Disco Inferno
Mr. Ass version of Billy Gunn

[BurningHammer]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sickgrrrl75/JeffHardy5.jpg

http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/94c5403cf75f518b45c24f81d7dd3019/http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00722/Jeff_Hardy_722687a.jpg
Would have easily been GOAT with a bit more mic skills and a lot less drugs.

[BurningHammer]

And Jeff Hardy vs Undertaker ladder match.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/3566628/jeff-hardy-the-undertaker-o.gif

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Jeff Hardy's career highlight is getting speared by Edge off a ladder.


http://i.imgur.com/f0VlUDU.gif
AGREED:applause: :applause:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Would have easily been GOAT with a bit more mic skills and a lot less drugs.
a BIT more mic skills????:biggums: just a BIT?:biggums:
even in the ring he was far from a technician just an alltime spot monkey TBH

[BurningHammer]

a BIT more mic skills????:biggums: just a BIT?:biggums:
even in the ring he was far from a technician just an alltime spot monkey TBH
Jeff's merch sales are always more than other TNA wrestlers' merchs combined with what he already is. Mic skills may not be very important for him.

[Megabox!]

Mike Haggar >>>>>>>> all those bum ass n*ggas. Dude Pile-drives Sharks

[Alamо]

http://i.imgur.com/sFizjFY.jpg

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Jeff's merch sales are always more than other TNA wrestlers' merchs combined with what he already is. Mic skills may not be very important for him.
True but with his style longterm health is gonna be a big problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINoGCYmFTs

sht like this accumulates over time

[Micku]

Hollywood Rock is GOAT. He was soo funny.

[9erempiree]

Consensus is Rock and everyone is 2nd. This guy was in tip top shape great mix skills and very technical when he wanted to be.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

:roll: :roll: :roll: rock and technical lmao, rock always did have arguably the blindest Stan's so its not surprising

[9erempiree]

:roll: :roll: :roll: rock and technical lmao, rock always did have arguably the blindest Stan's so its not surprising

Maivia days?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Rock got carried by fcking John cena in his last 2 WM matches lmao, Punk did as well.. Rock was past his prime but if had any technique at all he wouldnt have looked as bad as he did. He is still physically there outside of cardio. Look at some of the other old timers past their prime that could atill carry matches. he was never known for carrying feuds in matches he was like HHH in that respect just a much better talker and personality that trips

[ThePhantomCreep]

Rock had an insane peak, but his movie career killed any GOAT talks. Plus, he got out-popped by SCSA damn near every time they squared off as faces. That makes it pretty clear who the king of the Attitude Era was, and it wasn't Rocky.

[Shade8780]

Rock had an insane peak, but his movie career killed any GOAT talks. Plus, he got out-popped by SCSA damn near every time they squared off as faces. That makes it pretty clear who the king of the Attitude Era was, and it wasn't Rocky.
Austin was king from 98-00. Rocky owned 00-01 though, and then the next couple years after that.

[Knicks101]

Rock got carried by fcking John cena in his last 2 WM matches lmao, Punk did as well.. Rock was past his prime but if had any technique at all he wouldnt have looked as bad as he did. He is still physically there outside of cardio. Look at some of the other old timers past their prime that could atill carry matches. he was never known for carrying feuds in matches he was like HHH in that respect just a much better talker and personality that trips

He hadn't wrestled in what, like 7 years? What a stupid argument.

[JohnnySic]

Goldberg >>>>>>>

[Shade8780]

Haystacks Calhoun >>>>>>>

[Knicks101]

Goldberg was so over. They were even chanting his name into the mics backstage. You could hear it through the speakers.

[Knicks101]

The Rock was a good worker. If you put him in there with somebody good he'd usually have a good match. That's more than you can say about a lot of guys. He got the job done.

I think the problem with when he came back was not only being rusty. His build was totally different. In his prime he was never a big guy, when he came back he was massive but he still tried to wrestle his old style which was fast paced, athletic stuff. He just wasn't built for that anymore and got gassed. He should have switched it up and worked slower but whatever.

[JohnnySic]

People forget that the fans hated and rejected the Rock at first. It took him several years to find a gimmick that got him over.

Goldberg got over as an unknown during his very first match, and never slowed down. Not many wrestlers in history can claim that.

Also, although Goldberg wasn't Bret Hart or Kurt Angle in the ring, his power and intensity was among the most impressive of all time.

[Knicks101]

Who forgets that? Also no, it took The Rock like a year to get over. Goldberg definitely slowed down and fizzled out. :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Except he couldn't wrestle...or he never showed any wrestling skill. You can't be anywhere close to the GOAT if you can't even put on good matches consistently. You want to say goat star...okay, but goat wrestler? You actually have to have some kind of technical ability in the ring to be that. Austin for instance was always very good in the ring up until his knees started wearing and more importantly Owen Hart ****ed up his neck. He hurt the neck before the height of his popularity (first title run and mcmahon angle) so what most people remember is the brawling, stomping Austin. You think Bret Hart would have wanted to work with Austin if that's all he could do? The point is, maybe it is because of when he got big, but The Rock never actually had to do any real wrestling out there. I honestly can't think of one match I've seen of his where I was actually impressed. I can think of a bunch off the top of my head for guys like HBK, Hart and Jericho though. Even a few for Austin as it goes. The Rock was basically like his eras Hulk Hogan. Fans loved him, but he didn't do anything interesting in the ring.

[JohnnySic]

So Rock dug himself out of that crappy Maivia babyface gimmick and became the most electrifying man in sports entertainment. Wow! Legendary!!! :bowdown: The Great One!

Goldberg got pushed to the moon by doing nothing other than 3-minute squash matches. Once that died out, his hype and his career also died out.

Thank god that can't wrestle for shit only lasted 1 year in the WWE.
When did Goldberg's career "die out"? He was always at the top of the card. In one year he practically became the face of the WWE. Fans were cheering for him over Lesnar who the WWE had spent 2 years building up as "the next big thing". All Goldberg had to do was show up. :oldlol:

[Knicks101]

When did Goldberg's career "die out"? He was always at the top of the card. In one year he practically became the face of the WWE. Fans were cheering for him over Lesnar who the WWE had spent 2 years building up as "the next big thing". All Goldberg had to do was show up. :oldlol:

He was at the top of the card because they put him at the top of the card. Didn't they turn him heel at one point? He wasn't drawing.

[Wally450]

Rock
Stone Cold
Undertaker
Hulk Hogan
...as far as entertainment goes


Watch Kurt Angle Chris Benoit at WM X7 for one of the best technical wrestling matches.

[Lebron23]

http://www.profightdb.com/img/wrestlers/thumbs-600/1414330df8brethart.jpg

[BurningHammer]

In terms of in-ring wrestling, Rock was a bit underrated as he was one of the best sellers of all-time. People don't seem to give credit to the art of selling.

When talking about Rock's greatness, people usually talk about his mic skills, popularity, etc...but rarely about his in-ring stuff.
He can't even perform Sharpshooter right.

[BurningHammer]

People forget that the fans hated and rejected the Rock at first. It took him several years to find a gimmick that got him over.

Goldberg got over as an unknown during his very first match, and never slowed down. Not many wrestlers in history can claim that.

Also, although Goldberg wasn't Bret Hart or Kurt Angle in the ring, his power and intensity was among the most impressive of all time.
Goldberg Jackhammering Big Show and another on DDP with a severely injured shoulder were highlights.

Yeah, at the end, Goldberg vs DDP is the only career highlight match he has.

[JohnnySic]

Can The Rock do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfe97YzHmPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkQfWiZtPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzamdNMaVCM

:bowdown:

[pinhead]

British Bulldog

[9erempiree]

Can The Rock do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfe97YzHmPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkQfWiZtPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzamdNMaVCM

:bowdown:

You want to talk about skills and them you bring up that garbage from Goldberg.

[9erempiree]

I think technical ability is highly overrated especially in the sport of professional wrestling. If this was real life then I would value it much higher. The fact of the matter is, you are only as technical as your opponent allows you to be. The Rock can work a technical match and I have seen him do that during his Maivia days and his short comeback against Cena.

The fact that he can be GOAT status or the GOAT is really a testament to how great he was.

If you guys have ever seen the Rock in person you guys would clearly see why he is GOAT. He moves around the ring so effortlessly, sells his ass off like HBK, and his athletic ability alone is pretty good.

[warriorfan]

everyone do themselves a favor and stop watching wrestling after you turn 11 or 12

[Knicks101]

The Rock isn't even the undisputed GOAT in one category let alone overall. The closest he probably comes is charisma but you could make a case for Hogan.

[Charlie Sheen]

everyone do themselves a favor and stop watching wrestling after you turn 11 or 12

:(

[9erempiree]

The Rock isn't even the undisputed GOAT in one category let alone overall. The closest he probably comes is charisma but you could make a case for Hogan.

So suddenly in a scripted or fake sport such as wrestling, we are going to have a criteria?

He's only good because of charisma?

This is the scripted game....there is no way of evaluating these guys on technical ability. Everyone has technical ability if allowed to.

Therefore, something like charm, charisma and mic skills are the defining factors to GOAT.

Look at someone like Flair, he wrestles the same match and style every time but people consider him GOAT. Heck, if Flair is GOAT, then the Rock is GOD.

[Knicks101]

So suddenly in a scripted or fake sport such as wrestling, we are going to have a criteria?

He's only good because of charisma?

This is the scripted game....there is no way of evaluating these guys on technical ability. Everyone has technical ability if allowed to.

Therefore, something like charm, charisma and mic skills are the defining factors to GOAT.

Look at someone like Flair, he wrestles the same match and style every time but people consider him GOAT. Heck, if Flair is GOAT, then the Rock is GOD.

Pretty sure you were making this exact same argument a couple of years ago and it was just as dumb then as it is now.

[ThePhantomCreep]

I think technical ability is highly overrated especially in the sport of professional wrestling. If this was real life then I would value it much higher. The fact of the matter is, you are only as technical as your opponent allows you to be. The Rock can work a technical match and I have seen him do that during his Maivia days and his short comeback against Cena.

The fact that he can be GOAT status or the GOAT is really a testament to how great he was.

If you guys have ever seen the Rock in person you guys would clearly see why he is GOAT. He moves around the ring so effortlessly, sells his ass off like HBK, and his athletic ability alone is pretty good.

If ring work is as unimportant as you say (nonsense, but I'll play along)...

Hogan >> Rock

Hogan was a terrible wrestler, but he carried two organizations to the top spot in two separate decades, once as a face and the other as a heel. He held the top spot FAAAAR longer than Rocky as well.

I much prefer Rocky to Hogan, but those are the facts.

[Patrick Chewing]

http://cache.onlineworldofwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tumblr_moekadjht71rkf4k0o1_500.jpg


The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.

[jayfan]

Top 3 overall performers (working, selling, talking, drawing) -

Flair
Rhodes
Austin


.

[HarryCallahan]

Top 3 overall performers (working, selling, talking, drawing) -

Flair
Rhodes
Austin


.

No. Austin, Rock, Goldberg, Sting, Nash, Hall, Hogan are in a league of their own when it comes to being a draw.

[jayfan]

Top 3 overall performers (working, selling, talking, drawing) -

Flair
Rhodes
Austin



No. Austin, Rock, Goldberg, Sting, Nash, Hall, Hogan are in a league of their own when it comes to being a draw.

1. The word overall means all criteria taken into account together.

2. If you think Sting, Nash, Hall were bigger drawers than Flair and Rhodes were in the late 70's - 80's... smh.

.

[HarryCallahan]

1. The word overall means all criteria taken into account together.

2. If you think Sting, Nash, Hall were bigger drawers than Flair and Rhodes were in the late 70's - 80's... smh.

.

If you are incapable of looking at the data (house size, PPV buys, tv ratings, profitability of the company) and not realise that Dusty didn't draw shit compared to them and Flair, legend that he is pales in copmparison, then you are a lost cause m8.