DeMarre Carroll to the Raptors

[GoRapz]

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Deal is reported at 4/60. Not too sure what to think about that. DeRozan is definitely getting the max from the Raptors if Masai wants to keep him

[DMAVS41]

Shit...did not see this coming.

Hawks????

[Proctor]

:biggums:

[longtime lurker]

Shit...did not see this coming.

Hawks????

Lmao

[r15mohd]

hawks just lost the best asset IMO...smh, maybe this leads the way for Tobias Harris

[Bosnian Sajo]

He should go to Detroit, imo would fit in much better. The Raptors need a PF.

[Fudge]

Wow.

Raps looking nice.

[The_Pharcyde]

the end of the hawks "dynasty" lol!

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Interesting,

[Ariza4three]

Raptors. Best thing they ever did this year.

[longtime lurker]

Overpay. Carroll isn't going to move the needle much if at all.

[Patrick Chewing]

Knicks gonna end up re-signing Stoudemire and Bargnani. :lol

[BurningHammer]

Does this mean Derozan and/or Ross will be traded soon?

I know there is be some cap space available but this move's impact seems too little for Masai.

[atljonesbro]

Carroll really is a beast. Hope he does well. Hopefully this also opens the door for Tobias Harris to atlsnta

[r15mohd]

Does this mean Derozan and/or Ross will be traded soon?


wouldnt be surprised if Derozan is gone...wheres Dan Gilbert been secretly flying this summer? lol

[BurningHammer]

Overpay. Carroll isn't going to move the needle much if at all.
Kinda agreed to this. Should have been 4/40. Off Hawks squad he basically is #5 of its regular starter. Now he gets paid like #3.

[hawksdogsbraves]

I love Demarre but I think you might see he was much more effective in our offense than in the iso ball garbage system the Raptors play.

[GoRapz]

Hawks fans give me the report on Carroll. I know he's a 3+D guy but how pivotal was he to your success this past season?

[hawksdogsbraves]

Hawks fans give me the report on Carroll. I know he's a 3+D guy but how pivotal was he to your success this past season?

Hugely impactful. Guarded the other team's best wing all season, he'll help you immensely there.

He's a 3 and D guy but he can put it on the floor a bit, like I said before though he fit really well in our system so we'll have to see how he fits in yours.

Great locker room guy and a fan favorite too, he's awesome. $15 mil seems steep but that's just the nature of this offseason.

[atljonesbro]

Hawks fans give me the report on Carroll. I know he's a 3+D guy but how pivotal was he to your success this past season?
Very much so. Great defender and shooter as you mentioned, always cutting to the basket, underrated finisher around the rim, good rebounder. He's a very good player. He showed flashes when he had 6 or 7 straight 20+ point games in the playoffs

[Dro]

They have Terrance Ross, why do they need Carroll? And at $15 mil? WTF?

[Kungfro]

They have Terrance Ross, why do they need Carroll? And at $15 mil? WTF?
Terrance Ross regressed horribly last season, and he just doesn't have the size to match up with a lot of the better SF in this league.


I love Demarre but I think you might see he was much more effective in our offense than in the iso ball garbage system the Raptors play.

I get the feeling Lou won't be back, which I hope would help get the ball moving a little more on offense. It is an issue though, still not high on Casey running this team.

[GoRapz]

They have Terrance Ross, why do they need Carroll? And at $15 mil? WTF?

Because Ross is going to be playing in China after his rookie deal is up

[Done_And_Done]

They have Terrance Ross, why do they need Carroll? And at $15 mil? WTF?

Ross has been absolutely pitiful and for a long drawn out stretch now. His defense is terribly overrated, his shot is more streaky than JR's, he dribbles like he's got feet for hands and he has a phobia for the paint.

15 mill is steep but I think we're starting to see the effects of the ascended cap.

[yeaaaman]

Terrance Ross regressed horribly last season, and he just doesn't have the size to match up with a lot of the better SF in this league.



I get the feeling Lou won't be back, which I hope would help get the ball moving a little more on offense. It is an issue though, still not high on Casey running this team.

Terrance Ross is still young though so there is still potential to be reached, although he didn't have a great year and I agree doesn't have the size to match up with a lot of the SF's out there.

As for Lou, I'm not sure how much of a problem he was as compared to the fact the coach allowed him and the others to play that brand of basketball. It was awful. I honestly cringe more when I see Derozan play that way though.

[yeaaaman]

Kinda agreed to this. Should have been 4/40. Off Hawks squad he basically is #5 of its regular starter. Now he gets paid like #3.

The Raptors still need to make more moves if they want to compete, which you assume they do given this signing. I don't know where this leaves us cap wise though?

[hawksdogsbraves]

Terrance Ross regressed horribly last season, and he just doesn't have the size to match up with a lot of the better SF in this league.



I get the feeling Lou won't be back, which I hope would help get the ball moving a little more on offense. It is an issue though, still not high on Casey running this team.

I mean Carroll will still have value as a 3&D guy, but he gets a lot of his points on backdoor cuts and stuff like that which may not be there in a different system.

[Kujo]

Despite the over pay, it's not really that bad with the cap sky rocketing after next season, this is a really good signing.

A huge upgrade over Ross. The wing defender/shooter we needed. Hopefully we don't see a slide in performance as the Hawks played a great offensive system.

As long as we use Carroll the right way, he'll be a solid addition. Not worried about him defensively. He's instantly our best defensive player.

Let's see what Masai does with the remaining limited cap space. Lou Will is gone for sure now.

Getting LMA was a pipe dream (I think it's a lock that he signs with the Spurs) . We were never going to sign a star.

[yeaaaman]

I mean Carroll will still have value as a 3&D guy, but he gets a lot of his points on backdoor cuts and stuff like that which may not be there in a different system.

I'm not expecting the Raptors to run the same system considering how miserably it failed in the playoffs last year and the direction the league is going in.

[kshutts1]

Carroll strikes me as a high end "glue guy". Can make a huge difference on a contending team. Not sure he moves the needle too much for Toronto, but if they make some moves to get a more legit post presence (or if Val really kills it this year) then they could be a legit team.

I'm not a huge Raptors fan, so correct me if I'm wrong, but the starting lineup of Lowry, Derozan, Carroll, Patterson, Val is pretty solid. Pretty good skill sets there and, with the exception of Val, a lot of versatility there.

[JohnnyBravo5]

The Craptors just Joe Johnson themselves..:lol

[longtime lurker]

Kinda agreed to this. Should have been 4/40. Off Hawks squad he basically is #5 of its regular starter. Now he gets paid like #3.

The guy is 29 and had one good year in a team that's entirely built on a system. I don't get what the Raps are thinking here. The Raptors have a ton of complementary players, but what they're sorely lacking is an all star. They need that superstar closer and God bless him but Derozan isn't it. Ross, Derozan, some 1st rounders owned to them should be enough ammo to land a certified superstar.

[red1]

Carroll is solid. Lets hope this signing pans out

[Legends66NBA7]

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[Legends66NBA7]

Carroll was high on my list even if they were other SFs targeted. Brings a veteran and 3&D player the Raptors badly needed at the wing. I think now the Raptors will try to get another PF and try to fill out the bench with rebounding and defense.

Sign guys like Brandan Wright and Bismack Biyombo. I wonder if Pat becomes a starter now ?



He should go to Detroit, imo would fit in much better. The Raptors need a PF.

Raptors needed a SF more than a PF.


They have Terrance Ross, why do they need Carroll? And at $15 mil? WTF?

Like others have said, Ross is awful. I will not be surprised if he is traded or even let go once his contract is up. The last 2 playoffs have been so trash when he was in the lineup, no more of that.


Terrance Ross is still young though so there is still potential to be reached, although he didn't have a great year and I agree doesn't have the size to match up with a lot of the SF's out there.

Ross was supposed to be "NBA ready" and contribute to a team right away. Not much potential at all. He is what he is, I have seen no improvement from him since his rookie year with the exception that he is just starting.

[Captvic]

Man I'm gonna miss the Junkyard Dog...

But the Raptors still overpaid for him. He's a good player. Great defender(underrated at that end) and can hit some threes

[Done_And_Done]

Carroll was high on my list even if they were other SFs targeted. Brings a veteran and 3&D player the Raptors badly needed at the wing. I think now the Raptors will try to get another PF and try to fill out the bench with rebounding and defense.

Sign guys like Brandan Wright and Bismack Biyombo. I wonder if Pat becomes a starter now ?




Raptors needed a SF more than a PF.



Like others have said, Ross is awful. I will not be surprised if he is traded or even let go once his contract is up. The last 2 playoffs have been so trash when he was in the lineup, no more of that.



Ross was supposed to be "NBA ready" and contribute to a team right away. Not much potential at all. He is what he is, I have seen no improvement from him since his rookie year with the exception that he is just starting.

And as per usual..... I concur

[Twiens]

Thank god TRoss has started his last game in the NBA. So bad, back to the 15 minutes off the bench he deserves.

[Legends66NBA7]

Man I'm gonna miss the Junkyard Dog...

But the Raptors still overpaid for him. He's a good player. Great defender(underrated at that end) and can hit some threes

Was his nickname really the Junkyard Dog ?

That's what the Raptors nicknamed Jerome Williams.

[Done_And_Done]

Was his nickname really the Junkyard Dog ?

That's what the Raptors nicknamed Jerome Williams.

Yeah it was.

Was a fan favourite similarly to Jerome as well.

[Smook A.]

$15 million? For DeMarre Carroll? :roll:

That's more than Stephen Curry's salary. It's also what James Harden makes. Carroll is good, but wow he does not deserve that contract.

[Legends66NBA7]

Man, what is point having like 12 spots channels when none of them are covering this ?

There's 4 channels covering the NHL's free agency. :biggums:


The rest make sense, covering the Jays/Sox game. Another covering Wimbledon.

[GoRapz]

$15 million? For DeMarre Carroll? :roll:

That's more than Stephen Curry's salary. It's also what James Harden makes. Carroll is good, but wow he does not deserve that contract.

Do people here still not understand that a contract like this is going to be the norm for players like Carroll? The cap is going to sky rocket to 106-110mil in two years. $15 million will be like 8-9 million in today's cap.

[yeaaaman]

$15 million? For DeMarre Carroll? :roll:

That's more than Stephen Curry's salary. It's also what James Harden makes. Carroll is good, but wow he does not deserve that contract.

Look what Khris Middleton got, what Tristain Thompson is getting, Brandon Knight. It's all a lot of money but it's all pretty much the norm and/or will be come next year anyways.

[Big Cheese]

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The $$ obviously doesn't work & I have no clue how it would, but the pitch was DeMar at the two, Wes at the three and Carroll at the four.

so they plan on playing him at PF? :lol

[veilside23]

good signing ... imo just about right fit because derozan gets doubled at times and carroll is a better defender than ross

[gasolina]

This solves one of the many things the Raps need to be "fixed" again. So far they've addressed 2.5/3 defensive holes:

1) Bench PG (Anything was better than Vasquez)
2) Bench rim protection
3) Pick and roll D (Val and Ross got absolutely raped each time)

Obviously they need an athletic rebounder at the four. Pat Pat seems to get beat on rebounds all the time.

Any word from Lowry this offseason? He's been awfully quiet considering most people blame him for the collapse.

[PickernRoller]

Ok-ish deal for a quality perimeter defender. Raptors lost on Lou but are making it up slowly.

[MiseryCityTexas]

This guy might turn into a bum again now that he finally got his big payday.

[MiseryCityTexas]

This guy's been a bum throughout his whole NBA Career, but mysteriously played great in his contract season. :facepalm

[Done_And_Done]

Late bloomer who found himself in a system that maximized his skill set. He's no bum...