Iman Shumpert re-signs with Cavs for 4/40

[GoRapz]

I applaud Dan Gilbert for doing whatever it takes to bring the championship to Cleveland

[FKAri]

What does Shumpert do at an above average level?

[RedBlackAttack]

I applaud Dan Gilbert for doing whatever it takes to bring the championship to Cleveland
Gilbert is doing exactly what he has always done, just on a bigger stage and with even more money than ever possible. He's one of the very best owners in the league. Money is no object. He will spend whatever it takes to get a winner and that's half the battle.

So far today, Dan has spent $235 million on three players, none of whom are named LeBron James.


...and more is coming, folks. Stay tuned. :applause:

[Thunderfan86]

Dam.....how much money does Cleveland have to just be throwing it around like this? :confusedshrug:

[dubeta]

Mediocre player, but $10 M a year isnt bad when the new cap hits, it will be equivalent to $5 M under the current CBA


In other words, another L for the Lakers

[RedBlackAttack]

What does Shumpert do at an above average level?
He was one of the best perimeter defenders in the entire playoffs. He can guard all three perimeter positions and, in a league with so many gifted point guards and dead-eye shooters, that is a hugely important piece for any title contender.

He essentially shut down Isaiah Thomas in Round 1, made life rough for Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler in Round 2, completely shut down Kyle Korver until he was injured in Round 3 and then did a great job on Klay in The Finals.

He is an elite defender at this point. I think he has proven that much.

[LikeABosh]

Dude is a fvcking bum. Plug any other run of the mill wing player in for him and nothing changes

[FKAri]

He was one of the best perimeter defender in the entire playoffs. He can guard all three perimeter positions and, in a league with so many gifted point guards and dead-eye shooters, that is a hugely important piece for any title contender.

He essentially shut down Isaiah Thomas in Round 1, made life rough for Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler in Round 2, completely shut down Kyle Korver until he was injured in Round 3 and then did a great job on Klay in The Finals.

He is an elite defender at this point. I think he has proven that much.

He was a much better defender in 2012. No? He didn't seem as impressive to me this year albeit I didn't follow the cavs much outside the playoffs.

[RedBlackAttack]

Dam.....how much money does Cleveland have to just be throwing it around like this? :confusedshrug:

http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/dan-gilbert.jpg

[raprap]

Dan Gilbert > Bruce Wayne

[LikeABosh]

He gets $40 mill because he was a good defender 3 years ago :oldlol:

[Droid101]

In other words, another L for the Lakers
What does this have to do with the Lakers? God, why haven't you been banned again? Not a single useful post all day.




Anyway, after locking in LeBron and whoever else, aren't the Cavs looking at the highest salary+tax bill in history this coming year? Yikes. Dan better open his money bin.

[RedBlackAttack]

He was a much better defender in 2012. No? He didn't seem as impressive to me this year albeit I didn't follow the cavs much outside the playoffs.
I don't see how he could have been better. He never had been put on the hot seat with that many consecutive talented guards. I thought he was awesome.

People usually remember the last thing they saw in these kinds of situations and Shump had some problems after he hurt his shoulder in the Golden State series. But, through the first three rounds and then the first two games of the Finals, he was worth every penny of a $10 million contract.


Klay Thompson shot 40% from the field and 30% from three in The Finals after having splits of 46/43/76 in the previous three rounds. That wasn't a coincidence. Shumpert was in his shirt all series.

In the ECF, Korver was 4-for-10 from three prior to getting hurt at the end of Game 2. He was having a difficult time even getting shots up.

And, Shump is only just turned 25 this past month. He's a part of the team's longterm core.

[Lebron23]

Dude is a fvcking bum. Plug any other run of the mill wing player in for him and nothing changes


He did struggled in the finals, but he had some good games in the playoffs. He's going to be a solid 6th to 7th option. And he's a solid defender.

[midatlantic09]

$10 mil a year for 8 and 3?


:facepalm

[Bond007]

$10 mil a year for 8 and 3?


:facepalm

this:rolleyes:

[brownmamba00]

I guess that's what you need to cough up from preventing him leaving Cleveland.

[DonDadda59]

He was one of the best perimeter defenders in the entire playoffs. He can guard all three perimeter positions and, in a league with so many gifted point guards and dead-eye shooters, that is a hugely important piece for any title contender.

He essentially shut down Isaiah Thomas in Round 1, made life rough for Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler in Round 2, completely shut down Kyle Korver until he was injured in Round 3 and then did a great job on Klay in The Finals.

He is an elite defender at this point. I think he has proven that much.

This.

People have already forgotten how comically bad the Cavs' defense was before they made the moves to get Shump and Mosgov. That dramatically improved their D and transformed them from a .500 basketball team into the best in the East.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

This.

People have already forgotten how comically bad the Cavs' defense was before they made the moves to get Shump and Mosgov. That dramatically improved their D and transformed them from a .500 basketball team into the best in the East.

http://i.imgur.com/10OgC4i.gif

[Knicksfever2010]

Mediocre player, but $10 M a year isnt bad when the new cap hits, it will be equivalent to $5 M under the current CBA


In other words, another L for the Lakers

How do you figure? next years cap wont double

[DukeDelonte13]

shumpert is an elite-level perimeter defender...


Do people really think he can't defend?

[RedBlackAttack]

He did struggled in the finals, but he had some good games in the playoffs. He's going to be a solid 6th to 7th option. And he's a solid defender.
Erm, Klay Thompson had a 40/30/90 split in the Finals. If you were to say that Iman struggled offensively after his shoulder injury in Game 2, I'd agree. But, he did his job with the way he handled Klay. He wasn't the reason the Cavs lost that series. When you're looking to Iman Shumpert as a secondary scorer, either you're a bad team or there are lots of injuries.

For the Cavs, it was the latter. For the record, though, holding Klay Thompson to 40/30 splits in a 6-game series is hard.

[Dubs510]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Dam.....how much money does Cleveland have to just be throwing it around like this? :confusedshrug:
Dan gilbert owns a ****ing casino next to the Quicken Loans arena :applause:

[Beastmode88]

Jesus christ.. why do people always care about offense. Shumpert is a defensive guard. :facepalm

[Lebron23]

Jesus christ.. why do people always care about offense. Shumpert is a defensive guard. :facepalm


First time that I agree with your posts. Shumpert's role is like a younger version of Bruce Bowen.

[Pointguard]

I don't see how he could have been better. He never had been put on the hot seat with that many consecutive talented guards. I thought he was awesome.

People usually remember the last thing they saw in these kinds of situations and Shump had some problems after he hurt his shoulder in the Golden State series. But, through the first three rounds and then the first two games of the Finals, he was worth every penny of a $10 million contract.


Klay Thompson shot 40% from the field and 30% from three in The Finals after having splits of 46/43/76 in the previous three rounds. That wasn't a coincidence. Shumpert was in his shirt all series.

In the ECF, Korver was 4-for-10 from three prior to getting hurt at the end of Game 2. He was having a difficult time even getting shots up.

And, Shump is only just turned 25 this past month. He's a part of the team's longterm core.

Shump was one of the best perimeter defenders in the league in 2012. Has been recuperating from knee surgery but is getting back to himself. He's lost some of his athleticism (plays smarter now tho) and hasn't recupped his speed and jumping just yet. He is a very serviceable player right now.

[dontgetchoked]

shumpert is an elite-level perimeter defender...


Do people really think he can't defend?


i wouldn't say exactly elite, that goes to guys like kwahi, tony allen, jimmy butler, i don't think shump is quite on their level, but he is one of the better perimeter defenders in the league,probably just below those guys. I thought he fell off after his injury, but he just probably wasnt trying all that hard for a shitty knicks team.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Jesus christ.. why do people always care about offense. Shumpert is a defensive guard. :facepalm
Yup, and he's actually decent offensively when he can be the 5th/6th option.

The problem in the finals is that he was expected to be one of the main scorers, and he just isn't capable of that. on the Knicks he was what... 3rd option? That's a little too much for him to handle and be effective.

[imdaman99]

He was one of the best perimeter defenders in the entire playoffs. He can guard all three perimeter positions and, in a league with so many gifted point guards and dead-eye shooters, that is a hugely important piece for any title contender.

He essentially shut down Isaiah Thomas in Round 1, made life rough for Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler in Round 2, completely shut down Kyle Korver until he was injured in Round 3 and then did a great job on Klay in The Finals.

He is an elite defender at this point. I think he has proven that much.
Agreed with all of this. Yes his offense is inconsistent, as noticed in the Finals. But his defense? It's unquestionably consistent. He was the perimeter defender the Cavs did not have the first half of the season. The only problem I have with him on defense is his aggressive nature which sometimes lands him in foul trouble.

On offense, if only he could get a consistent 3 point shot. He could be a 3 and D guy. Think a Bruce Bowen with athleticism that could get the 50-50 ball. But his 3 pointer is very inconsistent, and sometimes it looks broke for a while. I thought he was gonna develop into Melo's #2...but it wasn't to be. Wish him the best though.

[Lebron23]

Iman is also a good guy.

[J Shuttlesworth]

The thing that bugs me the most about Shump is his inability to get a layup on a fastbreak :facepalm Sometimes he'll get a perfect steal, get on the break, and totally blow it :lol

[Derka]

Looking at what the Cavs D was before the trading deadline vs. after it...

I'm not so sure about the four years, but the $10 million isn't terrible. He's still young, although I don't think his offensive game will improve drastically.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Looking at what the Cavs D was before the trading deadline vs. after it...

I'm not so sure about the four years, but the $10 million isn't terrible. He's still young, although I don't think his offensive game will improve drastically.
Maybe someone can correct me if i'm wrong but...

If they didn't pay him, the alternative is losing him, and not being able to sign someone else due to being over the cap.

Dan Gilbert is a big spender :bowdown:

[livinglegend]

Maybe someone can correct me if i'm wrong but...

If they didn't pay him, the alternative is losing him, and not being able to sign someone else due to being over the cap.

Dan Gilbert is a big spender :bowdown:

Yeah, they lose him if they don't sign.
Dan will have to pay a lot of money, but why would we care about that? :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Dan Gilbert stays winning

[Hotlantadude81]

I don't see how he could have been better. He never had been put on the hot seat with that many consecutive talented guards. I thought he was awesome.

People usually remember the last thing they saw in these kinds of situations and Shump had some problems after he hurt his shoulder in the Golden State series. But, through the first three rounds and then the first two games of the Finals, he was worth every penny of a $10 million contract.


Klay Thompson shot 40% from the field and 30% from three in The Finals after having splits of 46/43/76 in the previous three rounds. That wasn't a coincidence. Shumpert was in his shirt all series.

In the ECF, Korver was 4-for-10 from three prior to getting hurt at the end of Game 2. He was having a difficult time even getting shots up.

And, Shump is only just turned 25 this past month. He's a part of the team's longterm core.

Korver is kind of a one trick pony though. I mean if you stick to him at the 3pt line he will not do anything.Plus he is rarely good in the playoffs.

[FatComputerNerd]

$10 mil a year for 8 and 3?


:facepalm

Box score #'s aren't always everything.

Any word on what J.R. is doing? I really hope we bring him back, regardless of how he performed in the finals. He obviously fit in with our roster very well this past season, and was crucial to our success, including through most of the playoffs.

I know he opted out days ago but I haven't heard much since...

[NBASTATMAN]

Oh my gosh, this guy is not a 10 milion a year player.. The Cavs are crazy... He would not have gotten anything close to that on the open market... Dude is lucky he can shoot over 40 percent... Cavs management is garbage..

[KG215]

Did the Cavs front office find a way to turn off the salary cap in MyGM? How the f**k are they affording all this?

[DMAVS41]

Did the Cavs front office find a way to turn off the salary cap in MyGM? How the f**k are they affording all this?

They aren't using cap for this....has nothing to do with the cap. It's all about how much tax they are willing to spend.

Word on the street is that the Haywood contract is up next....so they are adding even more salary for next season.

[RedBlackAttack]

Did the Cavs front office find a way to turn off the salary cap in MyGM? How the f**k are they affording all this?
Salary cap doesn't apply to guys who were on your payroll prior to their contracts expiring or opting out. Well, it does apply... if you are too far over, you have to pay a luxury tax.

But, there is no ceiling on what you're technically allowed to spend bringing guys back. It's just that most owners still really care about their own personal bottom lines and how signing guys could knock it down a few pegs. That's why we've literally never seen spending like this in a 365 day span in NBA history.

Dan Gilbert gives zero f#cks. That's the kind of owner every fan of every organization should want.

He spent $265 million today on Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson and Iman Shumpert. Next up? Figuring out what to do with the Haywood contract. See, most owners would just let it expire since they're already headed into record spending.

Dan Gilbert? Don't be surprised if he is looking for more assets to bring into town. That could be another near max player or a couple of $6m/year guys.


Oh... and the last order of business will be signing LeBron James to his max deal. :oldlol:


A lot of organizations give lip service about being "all-in" and doing everything in their power to get a championship. Gilbert is putting his money where his mouth is. Next year's Cavaliers will have the highest payroll in NBA history by a considerable margin, more than likely.

[OG LeeTSkeeT]

Lebron will prob sign a 1 year so that he can resign after the cap raises for a crazy max for his last biggest contract.

[wally_world]

No problem with this contract, the over-reaction is largely coming from the fact the Cavs resigned all 3 roleplayers to HUGE contracts. If you look at Shump's alone, it's a fine deal.

[Nash]

worth every penny just for the simple fact that it keeps lebron away from all the damn defensive duties.

[KG215]

They aren't using cap for this....has nothing to do with the cap. It's all about how much tax they are willing to spend.

Word on the street is that the Haywood contract is up next....so they are adding even more salary for next season.


Salary cap doesn't apply to guys who were on your payroll prior to their contracts expiring or opting out. Well, it does apply... if you are too far over, you have to pay a luxury tax.

Yeah, I understand that. It was just a poorly worded and faltout bad NBA 2K joke. I admire what Gilbert is doing. It's annoying as f**k as a Thunder fan, but it's admirable.

But if he does end up adding another near max player or a couple of really solid $6M/yr role players, then LeBron is going to get more heat than ever if the Cavs don't win it all next year if everyone is healthy because the Cavs would come as close to being as legitimately stacked of a team as I think we've seen in this era. I know everyone throws out that word about, well, any contender, but the Cavs may have insane and talented depth behind a Big 3 of LeBron, Kyrie, and Love, i.e. the best player in the World, a top 5 PG who's capable of scoring 40+ or 50+ on a given night, and a stretch-4 capable of chipping in with occasional 20-25 points, 10-15 rebound games.

It'd definitely something be extremely annoyed at and envious of at the same time.

[NumberSix]

What does Shumpert do at an above average level?
Defend. Strip the ball.

[TheCorporation]

Dan Gilbert's net worth = 4.8 Billion

Having said that.

Shumpert is a good defender, but damn his shot was BROKEN during the finals. He shot something horrid like 25% during the entire series...(and it wasn't like he was having to create his own shot off the dribble each time, too).

[Springsteen]

Are they even going to be able to keep Mozgov next year? This is insane.

[RedBlackAttack]

Dan Gilbert's net worth = 4.8 Billion

Having said that.

Shumpert is a good defender, but damn his shot was BROKEN during the finals. He shot something horrid like 25% during the entire series...(and it wasn't like he was having to create his own shot off the dribble each time, too).
He injured his elbow in Game 3. Prior to that, he was shooting a very respectable 38% from three for the playoffs.

It looked like a hyperextension to me and he never looked the same with his jumper in that series.

Here was the (very obvious) injury:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRr35rWgD04

His shot probably was a little "broken," because he was hurt and because of all the other injuries, he couldn't afford to just focus on defense and be a decoy on offense. The Cavs needed him to keep shooting because, frankly, they didn't have anything else.

That would not be the case with Kyrie and/or Love on the floor.

It sounds like an excuse, but it is legitimate.

[RedBlackAttack]

Are they even going to be able to keep Mozgov next year? This is insane.
Why not? Re-signing him would be as easy as what they're doing right now with all of these other guys. Also, the cap and luxury tax threshold is likely to skyrocket next year anyways.

The Cavs will still be way over, but I doubt it stops Dan from re-upping with Timo.

[97 bulls]

Are they even going to be able to keep Mozgov next year? This is insane.
I agree. How many guys do they have making 10 mill or more?

James? Irving? Thompson? Shump? Varejo? Love? Possibly Mozgov? And it seems like im missing someone. Oh yeah JR Smith. The Cavs could have 8 guys making over 10 mill a year.

[RedBlackAttack]

I agree. How many guys do they have making 10 mill or more?

James? Irving? Thompson? Shump? Varejo? Love? Possibly Mozgov? And it seems like im missing someone. Oh yeah JR Smith. The Cavs could have 8 guys making over 10 mill a year.
JR Smith is not getting $10 million.

And, I'll repeat... $10 million a year two years from now will look like $5 million a year now. This is the time you want to lock guys into long contract.

Except for JR. He's too unpredictable.

But, the rest of these guys? Griffin and Gilbert have done a great job.

[RedBlackAttack]

[B][SIZE="5"]The NBA salary cap is about to explode

[Jailblazers7]

Dan Gilbert's net worth = 4.8 Billion

Having said that.

Shumpert is a good defender, but damn his shot was BROKEN during the finals. He shot something horrid like 25% during the entire series...(and it wasn't like he was having to create his own shot off the dribble each time, too).

We don't know what his liquidity is like tho. Hed have no problem getting a loan if he needed it tho.

[I<3NBA]

if anything, Shump is underpaid at that amount. the new TV deal will bring in a lot of money.

[2swift4u]

Defend. Strip the ball.

you can say that again! He does that incredibly well... right before the offensive player goes up for the layup.

He's definitely an above average defender and he helped the Cavs big time last season.

[Sharmer]

Deals like this are why we are going to see a lockout in the next few years and the owners complain about the players making too much money yet stupid deals like this and Thompsons prove the owners can

[CarlosBoozer]

His net worth isn't even that high compared to other owners yet he's willing to spend $265M for three players.. That's one insane owner :bowdown:

[Jailblazers7]

Deals like this are why we are going to see a lockout in the next few years and the owners complain about the players making too much money yet stupid deals like this and Thompsons prove the owners can’t even control themselves.

How can owners complain about deals they willingly entered? Next lockout will be because the players union took forever to get management. LeBron is going for max to set the convo so that money split will be close to even.

Team values will soar. I bet Kings owner will sell immediately after. Easiest capital gain ever right there especially given Seattle's ownership group that wants a team.

[Sharmer]

How can owners complain about deals they willingly entered? Next lockout will be because the players union took forever to get management. LeBron is going for max to set the convo so that money split will be close to even.


The owners are just as responsible, they are part of the problem.

[BallsOut]

Gary Neal 1 year 2 mill
Rajon Rondo 1 year 10 mill
Patrick Beverly 4 years 26 mill
Corey Brewer 3 years 24 mill
Monta Ellis 4 years 44 mill

vs.

Iman Shumpert 4 years 40 mill

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[PickernRoller]

Good....Good!!!!

Cavs getting deeper into a hole they'll have a hard time crawling out from. I guess being in the East helps them a lot in this regard - competition is extremely scarce but it won't help them come Finals time.

:applause: :applause: Props to Gilbert and the LeTards. Definitely time to rejoice.

[dubeta]

Throwing money to receive players >>>>> not getting anyone at all


Take the L Laker fans


Rejoice that Jim Buss saved a few million to buy a new mansion.