What would YOU average on an NBA team?

[Westbrook0]

I think I've seen this topic on here before, but it always gives me a great laugh because of all the people that think they are even close to being able to produce on an NBA level.

It's pretty easy to sit on your computer on an NBA message board and talk about how you could've made the league or could've been a great college player if you would have just stuck with it, and how you could probably hang on an NBA roster and are as good as players like Steve Novak and Spencer Dinwiddie.

Anyway, I love this topic because it always cheers me up to see how delusional people are.


So the bottom line: What would YOU average if you were thrown onto an NBA roster and given 40 minutes of playing time per night?

Me:

40 mpg
1.7 ppg
1.2 rpg
0.6 apg
0.2 spg
0.1 bpg
7.8 TO/game
15% FG
11% 3PT

[KiiiiNG]

8 turnovers a game? :lol

hopefully your team would be smart enough not to EVER give your fatass the ball.

I'd average something like 10 ppg, 5rbg, 5apg on 37% shooting.

capable ball handler, smart, game manager. i could see myself being a good playmaker at the nba level.

[Fudge]

Played D1 college ball a few years ago. Almost positive that my energy and heart alone can land me an NBA gig. Decide to go a different route and expand my craft in other fields.

With that said, I won't get way too ahead of myself, but I think i'd average around 11PPG, mainly from 3's and such.

[Rake2204]

Given 40 minutes a night for 82 possible games?

For starters, I'd wonder how quickly it'd take for my body to break down after flying from Detroit to Los Angeles to play 40 minutes one night, then flying down to Houston to play 40 minutes the next, etc.

That said, if semi-okay shooters on this forum were given 40 minutes every night for 82 games, they'd have to stumble upon an open shot here or there by default, right? And then, it'd be a matter of knocking down an open shot. So... we might not averaged 0.0 points per game, haha.

It'd just be a way, way, way, way, way, way worse version of the "bad" NBA players (bad being relative) who average more points than they should on poor teams because they get minutes and shots by default.

Also, with all of us being so poor in comparison to every other player on the floor, one would have to imagine teams would begin defending as if it were 4-on-5, perhaps daring us to shoot. At that point, I suppose it'd be about whether we had enough guile to always try to prove we can shoot (aka the Josh Smith Effect).

[KiiiiNG]

Played D1 college ball a few years ago. Almost positive that my energy and heart alone can land me an NBA gig. Decide to go a different route and expand my craft in other fields.

With that said, I won't get way too ahead of myself, but I think i'd average around 11PPG, mainly from 3's and such.
:roll:

[buddha]

0 Mpg

[HylianNightmare]

I'd never score but I'd be slinging those assists

[gts]

0 MpgThat'll give us plenty of time to get to know each other...

:cheers:

[ClipperRevival]

I'm only 5'8" so I would have no chance. The height, length and athleticism disparity is too much to overcome. I could make the perfect move on my defender and still get my sh't swatted. But make me 6'5" and 200 lbs with decent athleticism and I could hang with the big boys. I consider my basketball skills to be pretty high, because I am 38 now and have been playing and working on my game since I was about 15. I continue to improve on my skills. I would say that my skill level for all players on this planet is in the 95th percentile. Not bragging because I know I put in the work. But yeah, given my curren height, it would be nearly impossible for me to positively impact the game. People don't realize how much ground (laterally and vertically) NBA players can cover in a short amount of time.

[SugarHill]

I'd never score but I'd be slinging those assists
there would be no difference tho. nba players wouldn't let you get off a single pass unless the player came right up and took the ball while you shielded from the defender. passing is just as hard as scoring will be for the most part.

[CavaliersFTW]

1.4 standing ovations per night (out of pity) for even having the audacity to step on the floor, I'd be a local hero chasing loose balls and that's about all my value would be. People would say "awe" because I'd be playing with wreckless abandon but to no avail I'd still have a hugely net negative impact. Think homeless dead corpse of dellavedova minus all of his basketball skills and about half his muscle mass and probably not even as quick.

I'd literally tell the team not to feed me the ball unless I'm wide the **** open on offense and there just was no other option. And I'd try my best to stay in front of guys like Russell Westbrook. He'd not only step by me with impunity he'd run me the **** over with equal if not more impunity, he's the size of the slow-footed centers I play against in rec league only he's a ****ing Olympian in terms of athleticism shit would be a biblical massacre :roll:

Also not sure I could handle 40 minutes a game in my current condition. Do I expect to get the training facilities, diet, and paychecks of a player that gets 40 minutes in the NBA? If so I'll do it even if I collapse a lung or it kills me :lol

[Milbuck]

I've never actually played basketball so I wouldn't be able to do anything outside of trying to hurt guys. Pretty much a braindead version of Delly. I'm 5'2" 125 with zero self confidence so it's not like it would matter if I had any discernible skill in the first place.

[ClipperRevival]

Given 40 minutes a night for 82 possible games?

For starters, I'd wonder how quickly it'd take for my body to break down after flying from Detroit to Los Angeles to play 40 minutes one night, then flying down to Houston to play 40 minutes the next, etc.

That said, if semi-okay shooters on this forum were given 40 minutes every night for 82 games, they'd have to stumble upon an open shot here or there by default, right? And then, it'd be a matter of knocking down an open shot. So... we might not averaged 0.0 points per game, haha.

It'd just be a way, way, way, way, way, way worse version of the "bad" NBA players (bad being relative) who average more points than they should on poor teams because they get minutes and shots by default.

Also, with all of us being so poor in comparison to every other player on the floor, one would have to imagine teams would begin defending as if it were 4-on-5, perhaps daring us to shoot. At that point, I suppose it'd be about whether we had enough guile to always try to prove we can shoot (aka the Josh Smith Effect).

There is no guarantee that you would score any points even if you played 40 minutes a game. It all comes down to your skills and your height and athleticism. You need to be a certain height/size along with a certain level of athleticism just to hang in the NBA. There is a reason why you never see no 5'2" guards. And there are many skilled players around on this planet who have just as much skills as NBA players but they are just too small and/or not athletic enough. Players in the NBA won the genetic lottery. Sure, you have rare exceptions like a Nash but 99% of the time, you have to have a certain level of size and/or athleticism just to compete at the NBA level.

[CavaliersFTW]

I've never actually played basketball so I wouldn't be able to do anything outside of trying to hurt guys. Pretty much a braindead version of Delly. I'm 5'2" 125 with zero self confidence so it's not like it would matter if I had any discernible skill in the first place.
Why do you keep saying that you said that in some other thread I doubt it's true :roll:

[ClipperRevival]

there would be no difference tho. nba players wouldn't let you get off a single pass unless the player came right up and took the ball while you shielded from the defender. passing is just as hard as scoring will be for the most part.

Yup. With their height, length and athleticism, people don't know just how much ground these guys can cover in a split second. Just getting passes off would be extremely hard. Getting your shot off would be hard. Rebounds? Lol. It's easy to succeed when you play other guys around 5'6" to 5'10". Quite another against NBA players.

[SugarHill]

Yup. With their height, length and athleticism, people don't know just how much ground these guys can cover in a split second. Just getting passes off would be extremely hard. Getting your shot off would be hard. Rebounds? Lol. It's easy to succeed when you play other guys around 5'6" to 5'10". Quite another against NBA players.
Yeah, it's just not even fair. I've played with prospects before and semi-professional players in rec centers and outdoors and their length, agility and ability to cover distances is just crazy. You'll think you're wide open but they've already covered all the ground and you're looking at your shot coming back right at you. And passing is a nightmare mostly because of their instincts and length. You're not doing anything if you're not a player with some extensive experience of some level. You can't just be a casual player and delude yourself into thinking anything will happen.

[sd3035]

I would just kick the shit out of everyone and get sent home

[RRR3]

If some coach was insane enough to play me (or I was on the Knicks), I'd get scored on every single time, bodied constantly, turn it over if I touched the ball at all, get blocked if I shot (I wouldn't most likely attempt to shoot), and collapse from exhaustion a few minutes in.



In short, I'd still be better than VSpan

[ClipperRevival]

Great thing about this game is if you work on your game, you get better and see tangible results on the court. But you never perfect the game. Ask MJ or Kobe if they have completely mastered the game and they will say hell no. You always learn little things here and there and what to do in specific situations. The more aspects of your game you master, the better you get. I always say basketball is art and the court is the canvas. Love this game with a passion and will play it until I can't walk. My avatar saids it all. It's all about the game.

[NugzFan]

I think I've seen this topic on here before, but it always gives me a great laugh because of all the people that think they are even close to being able to produce on an NBA level.

It's pretty easy to sit on your computer on an NBA message board and talk about how you could've made the league or could've been a great college player if you would have just stuck with it, and how you could probably hang on an NBA roster and are as good as players like Steve Novak and Spencer Dinwiddie.

Anyway, I love this topic because it always cheers me up to see how delusional people are.


So the bottom line: What would YOU average if you were thrown onto an NBA roster and given 40 minutes of playing time per night?

Me:

40 mpg
1.7 ppg
1.2 rpg
0.6 apg
0.2 spg
0.1 bpg
7.8 TO/game
23% FG
14% 3PT

Is this thread a joke? You think you could make 1 in 4 shots in NBA game against NBA defenses?

:oldlol:

[KiiiiNG]

Great thing about this game is if you work on your game, you get better and see tangible results on the court. But you never perfect the game. Ask MJ or Kobe if they have completely mastered the game and they will say hell no. You always learn little things here and there and what to do in specific situations. The more aspects of your game you master, the better you get. I always say basketball is art and the court is the canvas. Love this game with a passion and will play it until I can't walk. My avatar saids it all. It's all about the game.
great point

[waseem780]

maybe an open layup on a fast break?? Maybe i'd get fouled on a shot attempt every few games? and i'd hit some completely WIDE open three's? lol. My only chance of getting a rebound would to have an extremely lucky bounce that goes straight to me. I'd say assists aren't as hard , however they wouldn't be real assists , they would be me passing to the open player and him taking 5 dribbles and putting up a shot for example. My defense would be shit. I'd hustle but hustling can only take you so far I'd still be shit.

[sundizz]

I'm pretty good - and this is being realistic because I have to take into account my physical fitness as well.

First off, the team would either HAVE to play a 3-2 (with me at the top and hopefully Anthony Davis as one of the 2 in the back/behind me) zone or just send doubles on whoever I'm guarding on the other end.

I could likely play 15 minutes per game before my body would just give out running at the speeds they play.

Realistically, I think I'd just get injured within the first 10 games because my confidence is way way way higher than my physical limitations.

Let's discount all that and say I train for 6 months and have the physical capacity to be out there 35 minutes per game and can guarantee no major injury.

I'd say, I'm a 7/10 good shooter and a 9/10 level ball handler when comparing myself to the NBA. Likely, only pgs and sgs can handle the ball better than me. There is not a play that Curry has made last season dribbling wise that I can't do/haven't done in a somewhat similar way in a game. That said, my competition has never been close to his so all this means is that I can dribble without getting it stolen every time at the NBA level.

-3 ppg on 1/6 from the three (if I shot and didn't care about the team winning/and was a Bron stat whore)
-1.8 apg on fast breaks mostly or on a dribble and dish on a close out if someone goes for the block.
-.6 rpg when a rebound randomly flies my way
-.1 spg when a steal randomly comes my way
-0.0 bpg cuz I know I'll never get one
-2.8 to's per game when I make passes that would get to their recipient at every other level but get stolen by the super athletes in the league.

37 mpg, 3 ppg, 1.8 apg, .6 rpg, .1 spg, 0 bpg, 2.8 to's on 17% shooting from trey.

I've played a decent amount against D1 ballers and a few people that made it to the NBA/have NBA level athleticism so I know that I can camp out in the corner and do nothing but take that shot when given the rare chance. I can hit from well beyond the NBA three point line once I'm warmed up so if I were to play selfish and take shots whenever I wanted I would score.

[ClipperRevival]

One of my pet peeves is when i see NBA players with extreme talent not take the game seriously. Guys like Wes Johnson, Beasley, Derrick Williams, Javeel, etc. These guys were blessed with the perfect size and athleticism to be great but they don't maximize their talents. What I would have given to have their body and athleticism. I wouldn't have left no stone unturned.

[ClipperRevival]

I'm pretty good - and this is being realistic because I have to take into account my physical fitness as well.

First off, the team would either HAVE to play a 3-2 (with me at the top and hopefully Anthony Davis as one of the 2 in the back/behind me) zone or just send doubles on whoever I'm guarding on the other end.

I could likely play 15 minutes per game before my body would just give out running at the speeds they play.

Realistically, I think I'd just get injured within the first 10 games because my confidence is way way way higher than my physical limitations.

Let's discount all that and say I train for 6 months and have the physical capacity to be out there 35 minutes per game and can guarantee no major injury.

I'd say, I'm a 7/10 good shooter and a 9/10 level ball handler when comparing myself to the NBA. Likely, only pgs and sgs can handle the ball better than me. There is not a play that Curry has made last season dribbling wise that I can't do/haven't done in a somewhat similar way in a game. That said, my competition has never been close to his so all this means is that I can dribble without getting it stolen every time at the NBA level.

-3 ppg on 1/6 from the three (if I shot and didn't care about the team winning/and was a Bron stat whore)
-1.8 apg on fast breaks mostly or on a dribble and dish on a close out if someone goes for the block.
-.6 rpg when a rebound randomly flies my way
-.1 spg when a steal randomly comes my way
-0.0 bpg cuz I know I'll never get one
-2.8 to's per game when I make passes that would get to their recipient at every other level but get stolen by the super athletes in the league.

37 mpg, 3 ppg, 1.8 apg, .6 rpg, .1 spg, 0 bpg, 2.8 to's on 17% shooting from trey.

I've played a decent amount against D1 ballers and a few people that made it to the NBA/have NBA level athleticism so I know that I can camp out in the corner and do nothing but take that shot when given the rare chance. I can hit from well beyond the NBA three point line once I'm warmed up so if I were to play selfish and take shots whenever I wanted I would score.

How tall are you and what is the highest level of ball you played?

[Jameerthefear]

I'm actually 6'7 210lbs. I don't think I'd have any trouble. Pretty much the only reason I'm not in the NBA right now is because I'm 17 years old,

[Westbrook0]

Played D1 college ball a few years ago. Almost positive that my energy and heart alone can land me an NBA gig. Decide to go a different route and expand my craft in other fields.

With that said, I won't get way too ahead of myself, but I think i'd average around 11PPG, mainly from 3's and such.



8 turnovers a game? :lol

hopefully your team would be smart enough not to EVER give your fatass the ball.

I'd average something like 10 ppg, 5rbg, 5apg on 37% shooting.

capable ball handler, smart, game manager. i could see myself being a good playmaker at the nba level.


These are the types of posts I was looking forward to - thank you so much!

:roll: :applause:

[Westbrook0]

Is this thread a joke? You think you could make 1 in 4 shots in NBA game against NBA defenses?

:oldlol:

You're actually right. That was probably way too high.

I just imagined, since I would be useless on defense, cherry picking every single possession. I guess i pictured that sometimes I could catch an outlet pass and make a wide open layup, but a defender from another team would likely be ready to overtake me and block me quickly.

[ZMonkey11]

0.0 pts, 0.0 rebs, 0.0 assists, 0.000000000001 steals, 0.0 blocks.

I might get one steal on a lazy play. Otherwise im useless.

[Cleverness]

Funny question

I don't think anyone on this forum would last 40 mpg for an 82 game season or even 40 minutes in one game :lol

Teams in the NBA get up and down the court so quickly we would be gassed after one quarter

But playing with the idea, put me on a team where I can stand in the corner and just shoot 3s on offense, I'll probably hit about 25% wide open (in-game). I can shoot pretty well when I'm just shooting around, but I know in-game is much different.

17 mpg
4 ppg / 1.5 rpg / 0.3 apg / 0.2 spg

[Westbrook0]

I'm only 5'8" so I would have no chance. The height, length and athleticism disparity is too much to overcome. I could make the perfect move on my defender and still get my sh't swatted. But make me 6'5" and 200 lbs with decent athleticism and I could hang with the big boys. I consider my basketball skills to be pretty high, because I am 38 now and have been playing and working on my game since I was about 15. I continue to improve on my skills. I would say that my skill level for all players on this planet is in the 95th percentile. Not bragging because I know I put in the work. But yeah, given my curren height, it would be nearly impossible for me to positively impact the game. People don't realize how much ground (laterally and vertically) NBA players can cover in a short amount of time.

So your skills are in the 95th percentile of all players on the planet, and if you were 6'5 and 200 you could hang in the NBA?

First of all, did you play college ball? If you think your skills with an athletic body could get you in the NBA, then you must have been an all-conference type of player in college, right?

Secondly, even if you do somehow grow to 6'5, 200, you're still competing with literally thousands of other athletes similar to your size and athleticism playing college basketball across the country.

If you're in the 95th percentile, that means there are still several hundred players more talented than you in the college game. The NBA draft selects 60 players each year, and probably 15-20 of those actually stick around in the NBA for more than a few years.

Good luck!

[Westbrook0]

I'm pretty good - and this is being realistic because I have to take into account my physical fitness as well.

First off, the team would either HAVE to play a 3-2 (with me at the top and hopefully Anthony Davis as one of the 2 in the back/behind me) zone or just send doubles on whoever I'm guarding on the other end.

I could likely play 15 minutes per game before my body would just give out running at the speeds they play.

Realistically, I think I'd just get injured within the first 10 games because my confidence is way way way higher than my physical limitations.

Let's discount all that and say I train for 6 months and have the physical capacity to be out there 35 minutes per game and can guarantee no major injury.

I'd say, I'm a 7/10 good shooter and a 9/10 level ball handler when comparing myself to the NBA. Likely, only pgs and sgs can handle the ball better than me. There is not a play that Curry has made last season dribbling wise that I can't do/haven't done in a somewhat similar way in a game. That said, my competition has never been close to his so all this means is that I can dribble without getting it stolen every time at the NBA level.

-3 ppg on 1/6 from the three (if I shot and didn't care about the team winning/and was a Bron stat whore)
-1.8 apg on fast breaks mostly or on a dribble and dish on a close out if someone goes for the block.
-.6 rpg when a rebound randomly flies my way
-.1 spg when a steal randomly comes my way
-0.0 bpg cuz I know I'll never get one
-2.8 to's per game when I make passes that would get to their recipient at every other level but get stolen by the super athletes in the league.

37 mpg, 3 ppg, 1.8 apg, .6 rpg, .1 spg, 0 bpg, 2.8 to's on 17% shooting from trey.

I've played a decent amount against D1 ballers and a few people that made it to the NBA/have NBA level athleticism so I know that I can camp out in the corner and do nothing but take that shot when given the rare chance. I can hit from well beyond the NBA three point line once I'm warmed up so if I were to play selfish and take shots whenever I wanted I would score.

Yeah, I mean really guys like Steph Curry aren't that much different than the rest of us, right? Ball-handling and passing-wise I mean.

Throw any of us random joes out there on the court and we could at least handle the rock better than most of the SFs, PFs and centers in the NBA, right?

God this is exactly what I was hoping for. I was having a bad day and I knew this topic would come through with some entertainment.

[Cleverness]

Is this thread a joke? You think you could make 1 in 4 shots in NBA game against NBA defenses?

:oldlol:

Defenses wouldn't pay much attention to us when we had the ball.. they'd probably dare us to shoot it from the outside, just like a lot of teams would dare guys like Andrew Bynum to shoot 3s.

[ClipperRevival]

So your skills are in the 95th percentile of all players on the planet, and if you were 6'5 and 200 you could hang in the NBA?

First of all, did you play college ball? If you think your skills with an athletic body could get you in the NBA, then you must have been an all-conference type of player in college, right?

Secondly, even if you do somehow grow to 6'5, 200, you're still competing with literally thousands of other athletes similar to your size and athleticism playing college basketball across the country.

If you're in the 95th percentile, that means there are still several hundred players more talented than you in the college game. The NBA draft selects 60 players each year, and probably 15-20 of those actually stick around in the NBA for more than a few years.

Good luck!

No. I meant 95th percentile for all people who play ball on this planet on a regular basis, not just high school/college players. And I said if you give me 6'5" with decent athleticism, yes, I think I can hang. That doesn't mean I think I will great but I know I won't be embarrassed because I know what I can do on the basketball court. Basketball is basketball. If you can play, you can play. I am pretty confident in my basketball skills because I have worked on them for almost 25 straight years. I don't know how old you are but if you keep playing until my age (38) for almost 25 straight years, you will realize how much you can improve your skills by continuing to work on your game. I am 38 and lost most of my quickness so my skills mean sh't at the NBA level. But make me 25 years old, 6'5", 200 lbs and pretty athletic, hell yeah I can hang.

[Jailblazers7]

0 in all categories

My confidence would be destroyed in game 1 and it'd be torture from there.

[KiiiiNG]

No. I meant 95th percentile for all people who play ball on this planet on a regular basis, not just high school/college players. And I said if you give me 6'5" with decent athleticism, yes, I think I can hang. That doesn't mean I think I will great but I know I won't be embarrassed because I know what I can do on the basketball court. Basketball is basketball. If you can play, you can play. I am pretty confident in my basketball skills because I have worked on them for almost 25 straight years. I don't know how old you are but if you keep playing until my age (38) for almost 25 straight years, you will realize how much you can improve your skills by continuing to work on your game. I am 38 and lost most of my quickness so my skills mean sh't at the NBA level. But make me 25 years old, 6'5", 200 lbs and pretty athletic, hell yeah I can hang.
post a vid of you playing, bro. im sure you can prop a camera up and show us what you got, no? lets see them 95 percentile skills !

[ClipperRevival]

post a vid of you playing, bro. im sure you can prop a camera up and show us what you got, no? lets see them 95 percentile skills !

:oldlol: Like I said, when I say 95th percentile, I mean all people on this planet who play ball regularly. As you are probably aware, many of them suck. So it's not saying that much. I mean if 200 million people play, that means i am saying my skills are in the top 10 million. Last thing I want to do is give people the false perception that I am better than I actually am. I'm an old guy and have never posted a Youtube vid. I probably won't do it because I don't feel the need to prove anything but if I do, l'll let you know.

[Marchesk]

Wouldn't matter, Bran would still carry me to the finals in the East.

[Cocaine80s]

I'll let you know in a few years.

[Kobe_6/8]

No. I meant 95th percentile for all people who play ball on this planet on a regular basis, not just high school/college players.And I said if you give me 6'5" with decent athleticism, yes, I think I can hang. That doesn't mean I think I will great but I know I won't be embarrassed because I know what I can do on the basketball court. Basketball is basketball. If you can play, you can play. I am pretty confident in my basketball skills because I have worked on them for almost 25 straight years. I don't know how old you are but if you keep playing until my age (38) for almost 25 straight years, you will realize how much you can improve your skills by continuing to work on your game. I am 38 and lost most of my quickness so my skills mean sh't at the NBA level. But make me 25 years old, 6'5", 200 lbs and pretty athletic, hell yeah I can hang.

I'm pretty sure high school/college players fall into 'all people who play ball on this planet on a regular basis'.

[Goon Time]

depends on minutes and who is on the team and how much they want to involve me.

[oarabbus]

I'm pretty sure high school/college players fall into 'all people who play ball on this planet on a regular basis'.


:biggums:

You can't be that dumb to miss his point

[TheMan]

8 turnovers a game? :lol

hopefully your team would be smart enough not to EVER give your fatass the ball.

I'd average something like 10 ppg, 5rbg, 5apg on 37% shooting.

capable ball handler, smart, game manager. i could see myself being a good playmaker at the nba level.
This delusional idiot :lol

[Sharmer]

If I had a good dribble I would be decent, I ran track, and would have a good speed advantage. I also have good shooting range.

[pastis]

im deadly from midrange, so i already have an advantage to 90% of the nba players.

with 25 mpg i would average like 6ppg, nobody would put defense on me for the first year, because im a noname. so i would hit the open jumpers. np np np

[TheMan]

0 in all categories

My confidence would be destroyed in game 1 and it'd be torture from there.
This dude keeping it real :applause:

Lol at the rest of the fools thinking their unathletic asses have any chance at all against bigger, faster, stronger and way more talented athletes.

[Leroy Jetson]

It's funny how so many people on this board could play in the NBA, if they wanted to. Everyone here seems to make at least 200k a year. Not one of you have ever been with a girl that wasn't a 10. I would think that it if I had all that cash, all those skills and all those honeys, I would have better things to do with my time than post on a basketball forum all day.

[Fowl]

Yall remember that one H-O-R-S-E competition in AllStar Weekend they had a few years back?

Kevin Durant toe to toe vs Rajon Rondo in the finals.
Rondo was sinking long 3s.

They never had that competition again :roll:


With that being said, give me Ben Wallace.

[ISHGoat]

2.7 ppg on 31.9% fg%

[jlip]

I'd win that coveted 12th man of the year award.

[SsKSpurs21]

Yeah, it's just not even fair. I've played with prospects before and semi-professional players in rec centers and outdoors and their length, agility and ability to cover distances is just crazy. You'll think you're wide open but they've already covered all the ground and you're looking at your shot coming back right at you. And passing is a nightmare mostly because of their instincts and length. You're not doing anything if you're not a player with some extensive experience of some level. You can't just be a casual player and delude yourself into thinking anything will happen.

absolutely agree.

i always thought i was a pretty decent player. played in a few REC leagues and mosque leagues etc.

in college, there was a Spurs player that lived in my parents neighborhood named derrick dial. dude was a 14th man. barely played. always on the bench. this guy would come shoot around in the neighborhood courts and he was a beast. easily the fastest guy on the court, rarely missed a shot. went michael jordan mode on the rest of us.

i thought if this dude who barely gets playing time is this good...how good are guys like kobe and tmac? must be godlike.

after that i realized just how good even the scrubiest of the scrubs are in the NBA. you have to have ELITE talent to make an NBA roster.

[HighFlyer23]

100/25/25 on 100 FG%

[Solid Snake]

It's funny how so many people on this board could play in the NBA, if they wanted to. Everyone here seems to make at least 200k a year. Not one of you have ever been with a girl that wasn't a 10. I would think that it if I had all that cash, all those skills and all those honeys, I would have better things to do with my time than post on a basketball forum all day.


And don't forget their weight lifting abilities. We have people at the peak of human physical conditioning, benching 300lbs several times with no problem, and deadlifting 500lbs.

[Solid Snake]

So I love these topics, not because of the troll answers, but because every so often you'll get an anecdote from people that shows just HOW DAMN GOOD players are.

I don't know who posted these examples, hopefully someone remembers, but here's some:

One person a few years ago said they saw Nate Robinson casually playing with college kids, wearing flip flops, baggy jean shorts, dribbling with just ONE hand, and destroying them every time.

Another person said that former Rockets player and scrub Calvin Booth was just crossing people over left and right on a court one time.

One person said that Jeff Mcinnis was playing at Rucker park either one on one or something crazy, and he had a bad hand so wasn't playing serious. Then, once he got serious, he stole the ball literally EVERY TIME on each possession.

I love these kinds of stories. It's just kinda fascinating to hear about "bad" players in the NBA destroying us normal people.

[RidonKs]

1.4 standing ovations per night (out of pity) for even having the audacity to step on the floor, I'd be a local hero chasing loose balls and that's about all my value would be. People would say "awe" because I'd be playing with wreckless abandon but to no avail I'd still have a hugely net negative impact. Think homeless dead corpse of dellavedova minus all of his basketball skills and about half his muscle mass and probably not even as quick.

I'd literally tell the team not to feed me the ball unless I'm wide the **** open on offense and there just was no other option. And I'd try my best to stay in front of guys like Russell Westbrook. He'd not only step by me with impunity he'd run me the **** over with equal if not more impunity, he's the size of the slow-footed centers I play against in rec league only he's a ****ing Olympian in terms of athleticism shit would be a biblical massacre :roll:

Also not sure I could handle 40 minutes a game in my current condition. Do I expect to get the training facilities, diet, and paychecks of a player that gets 40 minutes in the NBA? If so I'll do it even if I collapse a lung or it kills me :lol
i'd cheer for this guy

[Stempel, HERB]

To the geniuses saying they'd get open shots since the defense would ignore them. Guess what? Your offensive teammates would ignore you too if you were that bad. You aren't getting any shot attempts at that point.

[KelticForce1349]

....eh....about 1.5 cute girls a week. Maybe do a little bit better once my confidence improved and I knew what to say. Unless I just took the easy way and spent all my money on escorts. :banana:

I always pictured myself as Jack Halley on the 96 Bulls; a good teammate, enthusiastic, applauding and high-fiving, and getting my ass up in a hurry when someone needed a place to sit down during a timeout.

[Wally450]

If I could get some garbage time minutes in a blowout and get one bucket, my per 36 would be insane. :pimp:

[Rake2204]

There is no guarantee that you would score any points even if you played 40 minutes a game. It all comes down to your skills and your height and athleticism. You need to be a certain height/size along with a certain level of athleticism just to hang in the NBA. There is a reason why you never see no 5'2" guards. And there are many skilled players around on this planet who have just as much skills as NBA players but they are just too small and/or not athletic enough. Players in the NBA won the genetic lottery. Sure, you have rare exceptions like a Nash but 99% of the time, you have to have a certain level of size and/or athleticism just to compete at the NBA level.To be clear, the intent of my first post was not to suggest we could hang at an NBA level. Instead, the suggestion was that the oddity of a player being so far beneath the talent line for 40 minutes each night for 82 games could possibly result in some buckets here or there.

As you mentioned later in the thread, I'd say there's an okay chance that I'm in the top 10 million players in the world, which means nothing more than I'm a low level college guy capable of making wide open layups and can consistently knock down open jumpers (and by that, I mean really wide open, not wide open but with Kawhi Leonard closing out on me - that's not wide open).

As a result, I think placing someone like me, or a group of others here, on an NBA team for 40 guaranteed minutes for 82 nights a year would result in some oddities that could lead to buckets. Among them:

-I'd wonder if we'd ever grow accustomed to the pace, even if done for 82 games (though 40 minutes each night would lead to a drastic increase in stamina, if our bodies didn't break down first).

Anyhow, with our awful stamina, but still getting a forced 40 minutes a night, that could theoretically lead to some weird moments where we're so far behind a play that we're ahead of it (kind of an unintentional cherry pick situation). It could lead to a make-able layup at some point over an 82 game schedule.

-A "So ineffective as a player I'm going to ignore you on offense" situation. There were some times in the Finals where players didn't even close out on Andre Iguodala (as in, stayed grounded, barely put hand up). They eventually learned, but then again Iguodala is a thousand times the player of any of us. As a result, might we get a "don't even pay attention to him" response on offense? Subsequently, could that lead a semi-competent shooter to make a shot at some point over the course of 3,280 minutes?

-With teams knowing how bad and out of place we were, might we also be the target of intentional fouling and super heavy pressure that may result in fouls if we're lucky, and subsequently lead to free throws at some point over the course of the season?

In short, nothing would be guaranteed, but playing over 3,000 minutes could likely lead to a squirrel finding a nut at various moments.

[STATUTORY]

1.4 standing ovations per night (out of pity) for even having the audacity to step on the floor, I'd be a local hero chasing loose balls and that's about all my value would be. People would say "awe" because I'd be playing with wreckless abandon but to no avail I'd still have a hugely net negative impact. Think homeless dead corpse of dellavedova minus all of his basketball skills and about half his muscle mass and probably not even as quick.

I'd literally tell the team not to feed me the ball unless I'm wide the **** open on offense and there just was no other option. And I'd try my best to stay in front of guys like Russell Westbrook. He'd not only step by me with impunity he'd run me the **** over with equal if not more impunity, he's the size of the slow-footed centers I play against in rec league only he's a ****ing Olympian in terms of athleticism shit would be a biblical massacre :roll:

Also not sure I could handle 40 minutes a game in my current condition. Do I expect to get the training facilities, diet, and paychecks of a player that gets 40 minutes in the NBA? If so I'll do it even if I collapse a lung or it kills me :lol

you would been dominant in the 50s doe

[kshutts1]

I'm assuming I'd be given wide open shots... because I'm terrible compared to everyone else in the NBA.

Wide open shots, only shooting when I have clear daylight?

I'd shoot 40%, scoring as many points as I had open shots. Getting stuffed way more often than not, though, until I got used to the quickness and length.

But let's be real... It would be an actual laughingstock. Every time I had the ball and was being defended it would be a turnover.

[Solid Snake]

To be clear, the intent of my first post was not to suggest we could hang at an NBA level. Instead, the suggestion was that the oddity of a player being so far beneath the talent line for 40 minutes each night for 82 games could possibly result in some buckets here or there.

As you mentioned later in the thread, I'd say there's an okay chance that I'm in the top 10 million players in the world, which means nothing more than I'm a low level college guy capable of making wide open layups and can consistently knock down open jumpers (and by that, I mean really wide open, not wide open but with Kawhi Leonard closing out on me - that's not wide open).

As a result, I think placing someone like me, or a group of others here, on an NBA team for 40 guaranteed minutes for 82 nights a year would result in some oddities that could lead to buckets. Among them:

-I'd wonder if we'd ever grow accustomed to the pace, even if done for 82 games (though 40 minutes each night would lead to a drastic increase in stamina, if our bodies didn't break down first).

Anyhow, with our awful stamina, but still getting a forced 40 minutes a night, that could theoretically lead to some weird moments where we're so far behind a play that we're ahead of it (kind of an unintentional cherry pick situation). It could lead to a make-able layup at some point over an 82 game schedule.

-A "So ineffective as a player I'm going to ignore you on offense" situation. There were some times in the Finals where players didn't even close out on Andre Iguodala (as in, stayed grounded, barely put hand up). They eventually learned, but then again Iguodala is a thousand times the player of any of us. As a result, might we get a "don't even pay attention to him" response on offense? Subsequently, could that lead a semi-competent shooter to make a shot at some point over the course of 3,280 minutes?

-With teams knowing how bad and out of place we were, might we also be the target of intentional fouling and super heavy pressure that may result in fouls if we're lucky, and subsequently lead to free throws at some point over the course of the season?

In short, nothing would be guaranteed, but playing over 3,000 minutes could likely lead to a squirrel finding a nut at various moments.

Had to rep you on this, I just love the imagery I get when reading this, and how you said "we," lol. I just somehow picture a bunch of us from the forum working as a team on the court, taking it SUPER seriously, and still failing miserably.

Intentionally hacking us = Hack-a-ISHer

[ShackEelOKneel]

Played D1 college ball a few years ago. Almost positive that my energy and heart alone can land me an NBA gig. Decide to go a different route and expand my craft in other fields.

With that said, I won't get way too ahead of myself, but I think i'd average around 11PPG, mainly from 3's and such.

I don't know if this is a funny post or a pathetic one. Maybe a bit of both.

[Rocketswin2013]

I'm positive I couldn't play 40 minutes of hustle. My stamina just isn't there. But, I do have a decent handle.

40 MPG
4 PPG(All FTA)
0% FG%
80% FT
1.1 APG
3 RPG(Pretty good at this in 4 on 4. I'd get some long rebounds)
6 TOV
1 SPG
.2 BPG
5 FPG

[ralph_i_el]

8 turnovers a game? :lol

hopefully your team would be smart enough not to EVER give your fatass the ball.

I'd average something like 10 ppg, 5rbg, 5apg on 37% shooting.

capable ball handler, smart, game manager. i could see myself being a good playmaker at the nba level.

you're a fat *****

I might score 1ppg off fastbreaks. I'm a good sprinter and I can catch a ball. I'm 6' 175 with very little body fat and a strong upper body. I may shoot 20% on wide open jumpers. The other team would score on me almost every possession.

[kshutts1]

I'm positive I couldn't play 40 minutes of hustle. My stamina just isn't there. But, I do have a decent handle.

40 MPG
4 PPG(All FTA)
0% FG%
80% FT
1.1 APG
3 RPG(Pretty good at this in 4 on 4. I'd get some long rebounds)
6 TOV
1 SPG
.2 BPG
5 FPG
One whole steal per game? Wow. That and the rebounds seem the most outlandish, unless you're 6'5+

[kshutts1]

And having seen Rake's video in the "100 shot challenge" thread, I'd say that he would be left open less often than Iggy was in the Finals.

His post, though, was pretty spot on with one major change... I do see us being ignored, and for some of us... being wide open from 15-18' is almost a gimme. I kill people in 1-on-1 from there when they choose to leave me open.

I wouldn't consider some of us better shooters/playing scoring a bucket or two per game as "lightning striking".

But this is all while keeping in mind that I do mean WIDE open, just like Rake said, and NOT someone like Leonard closing in on us. Literally daring us to shoot.

[Rocketswin2013]

One whole steal per game? Wow. That and the rebounds seem the most outlandish, unless you're 6'5+
Yeah I'm just 6'0" :lol

In a fast paced game, you could get a couple lucky long rebounds, no? :confusedshrug:
You just have to track it, and not be scared of collision.

I get about 2-3 steals a game in gyms. I would probably foul out in trying but I could get a steal every once in a while. Maybe 0.3 ish a game.

[kshutts1]

Yeah I'm just 6'0" :lol

In a fast paced game, you could get a couple lucky long rebounds, no? :confusedshrug:
You just have to track it, and not be scared of collision.

I get about 2-3 steals a game in gyms. I would probably foul out in trying but I could get a steal every once in a while. Maybe 0.3 ish a game.
Yeah, but against what level of competition? Prior to this post, it wouldn't surprise me if you were a college-level player, but this post and the wording/phrasing of it make it sound like you're someone that loves the game but could never play it at a college level.

So if that assumption is correct, and your level of competition and the gym in which you play are below even college level... Take the fastest guy from your gym, make him faster, 5 inches taller, and probably 33% stronger and you have.... an average NBA guard.

[Droid101]

6'9" 200 pounds. With NBA trainers and nutritionists I'd probably be up to 225 or so I'm guessing.

Shot out to 20 feet is good but really unreliable any further. Sneaky shotblocker, but due to weight not great at boxing out. 40 MPG means I'm on the 2013-2014 Sixers or some equivalently bad team, so....

5ppg
3rpg
3apg
1bpg
0.2spg
30% shooting
NA 3 point shooting
70% free throws

So, super-homeless man's Josh McRoberts or something.

[Rocketswin2013]

Yeah, but against what level of competition? Prior to this post, it wouldn't surprise me if you were a college-level player, but this post and the wording/phrasing of it make it sound like you're someone that loves the game but could never play it at a college level.

So if that assumption is correct, and your level of competition and the gym in which you play are below even college level... Take the fastest guy from your gym, make him faster, 5 inches taller, and probably 33% stronger and you have.... an average NBA guard.
40 minutes is a lot of minutes. I think I could get one steal eventually after some games. It wouldn't have to be me getting the ball. It could be a deflection or something.

[k0kakw0rld]

My goal just like Kobe entering the NBA, is to break the all time record for most missed shots in the league. :pimp:

[CavaliersFTW]

6'9" 200 pounds. With NBA trainers and nutritionists I'd probably be up to 225 or so I'm guessing.

Shot out to 20 feet is good but really unreliable any further. Sneaky shotblocker, but due to weight not great at boxing out. 40 MPG means I'm on the 2013-2014 Sixers or some equivalently bad team, so....

5ppg
3rpg
3apg
1bpg
0.2spg
30% shooting
NA 3 point shooting
70% free throws

So, super-homeless man's Josh McRoberts or something.
How on earth would you get 3 assists per game - you think you'd handle the ball that often? That's something Shaq accomplished only 4 or 5 times in his entire 19 season career. You have to be able to hang on to the ball with a cool and collective mind, and hands that won't turn it over, and see a play developing, than deliver the ball accurately and quickly for you to get an assist in the NBA. Through NBA defenses from players that cover ground and can smother you and pick your pocket a lot better than anyone you've probably ever played against.

[NugzFan]

Wow. So many idiots in this thread.

No one is scoring on NBA defenses. I don't care how good you were in high school. You guys have no idea how fast, athletic and quick these guys are.

Now if yOu want to assume they wouldn't try as hard, fine. Then it's a stupid theoretical question. But if it's an actual NBA game no one here is scoring. Ever. Maybe 10% hit rim.

You guys are delusional.

[Rocketswin2013]

Wow. So many idiots in this thread.

No one is scoring on NBA defenses. I don't care how good you were in high school. You guys have no idea how fast, athletic and quick these guys are.

Now if yOu want to assume they wouldn't try as hard, fine. Then it's a stupid theoretical question. But if it's an actual NBA game no one here is scoring. Ever. Maybe 10% hit rim.

You guys are delusional.
Yeah I don't know why people think they'll hit jumpers. Especially 25+ foot ones. I think I could get to the foul line out of absolute pity whistles from refs. But that's it.

[GIF REACTION]

12-14 points on 45% shooting...

Hyperathletic, even for NBA standards... Work on the skills and I'd have plenty of looks...

[Harison]

0 MPG

If they would be stupid enough to let me play:

0,01 PPG, 0,1 RBG, 20 turnovers. :lol

[ralph_i_el]

12-14 points on 45% shooting...

Hyperathletic, even for NBA standards... Work on the skills and I'd have plenty of looks...

then go play ball for money and stop posting

[kshutts1]

Wow. So many idiots in this thread.

No one is scoring on NBA defenses. I don't care how good you were in high school. You guys have no idea how fast, athletic and quick these guys are.

Now if yOu want to assume they wouldn't try as hard, fine. Then it's a stupid theoretical question. But if it's an actual NBA game no one here is scoring. Ever. Maybe 10% hit rim.

You guys are delusional.
Not really an assumption. We saw, in the Finals.. the "pinnacle" of the NBA, players being literally LEFT open on the regular.

I think it's fair to assume that we'd be left open at least 5 times in a 40 min game. Then will we actually get the ball? If we do, will the D still ignore us? Will they dare us to shoot?

[ArbitraryWater]

Wow. So many idiots in this thread.

No one is scoring on NBA defenses. I don't care how good you were in high school. You guys have no idea how fast, athletic and quick these guys are.

Now if yOu want to assume they wouldn't try as hard, fine. Then it's a stupid theoretical question. But if it's an actual NBA game no one here is scoring. Ever. Maybe 10% hit rim.

You guys are delusional.

this.. if no one here played at a pro level, you aint scoring for shit.. maybe get a rebound bounce to you, then better pass it off quickly before someone takes it from you or forces an 8 sec violation


6'9" 200 pounds. With NBA trainers and nutritionists I'd probably be up to 225 or so I'm guessing.

Shot out to 20 feet is good but really unreliable any further. Sneaky shotblocker, but due to weight not great at boxing out. 40 MPG means I'm on the 2013-2014 Sixers or some equivalently bad team, so....

5ppg
3rpg
3apg
1bpg
0.2spg
30% shooting
NA 3 point shooting
70% free throws

So, super-homeless man's Josh McRoberts or something.

lmao :facepalm

[riseagainst]

if i played in the 60s and 70s i'd average 50/25.

[GIF REACTION]

then go play ball for money and stop posting
Tore my hip flexor off the bone then just as I came back I tore my left patella tendon... This was from ages 17-20... Spent 2-3 years on the sidelines, i missed the chance

[hateraid]

Think of the highest level of organized basketball you've played. For the sake of argument let's say high school since most of us played high school.
Imagine some mathlete who likes basketball, takes shots with his dad out back, but has never played a game in his life nor is he physically gifted for basketball. How much would he average in high school if he played 40 mins a game?
That's us compared to playing in the NBA.

[nightprowler10]

That's us compared to playing in the NBA.
No, see I would say that's us compared to a decent college team. Playing in the NBA would be like a high school player playing against a 5 year old playing with a plastic hoop.

[ralph_i_el]

Tore my hip flexor off the bone then just as I came back I tore my left patella tendon... This was from ages 17-20... Spent 2-3 years on the sidelines, i missed the chance

That's brutal man, sorry the hear it. I missed a season of college water polo when I tore cartilage in my rib cage golfing, then had my nose literally exploded when I caught the follow-through of a shot with my face.

Sorry for jumping all over you. Maybe you could have been an NBA player.

[Solid Snake]

No, see I would say that's us compared to a decent college team. Playing in the NBA would be like a high school player playing against a 5 year old playing with a plastic hoop.


And yet the delusional people will claim that what you just said is hyperbole. They just don't grasp the skill level difference.

Someone smarter than me needs to do a mathematical breakdown, something with odds, and percentiles, and how many god-like players on the street couldn't even crack a D-League, etc.

[Lebron23]

this.. if no one here played at a pro level, you aint scoring for shit.. maybe get a rebound bounce to you, then better pass it off quickly before someone takes it from you or forces an 8 sec violation



lmao :facepalm


Droid101 said that he was a former teammate of Adam Parada.

http://www.ucirvinesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/2014-15/Parada.Posed.2014FIBAWorldCup_rotator.jpg

[ClipperRevival]

Think of the highest level of organized basketball you've played. For the sake of argument let's say high school since most of us played high school.
Imagine some mathlete who likes basketball, takes shots with his dad out back, but has never played a game in his life nor is he physically gifted for basketball. How much would he average in high school if he played 40 mins a game?
That's us compared to playing in the NBA.

At the same time, these guys aren't Gods. Basketball is basketball. If you can play, you can play. If you have game, you have game. What separates the rest of us people with some skills from the NBA is height/size and elite athleticism. Skill is different from raw tools. Are you telling me the best basketball players in the world are all mostly 6'3" and above? Of course not. You just need to be that height to compete at the NBA level. There are tens of thousands of people (maybe more) people on this planet who have the skills to play at the NBA level but they can't because they are much shorter and lack the athleticism.

So being in the NBA isn't just about skills (although they are extremely, extremely skilled to the point where it would shock most people), it's about hitting the genetic lottery and being a certain height/size with a certain amount of athleticism.

[Bankaii]

This dude keeping it real :applause:

Lol at the rest of the fools thinking their unathletic asses have any chance at all against bigger, faster, stronger and way more talented athletes.
Some people on here can actually hoop unlike your fat ass. I'm sure there's at least 3 other people on here that can dunk.

[NugzFan]

Not really an assumption. We saw, in the Finals.. the "pinnacle" of the NBA, players being literally LEFT open on the regular.

I think it's fair to assume that we'd be left open at least 5 times in a 40 min game. Then will we actually get the ball? If we do, will the D still ignore us? Will they dare us to shoot?


They left NBA pros open. Not high school scrubs.

You still won't get the shots off. They will close on you so fast and now you still have to shoot over a 6'6" player. And then you have to account for the beating you will get - the game is physical. Much more than we can even imagine.

You guys are idiots. Every post should say
0ppg on 0fg%

[Westbrook0]

Droid101 said that he was a former teammate of Adam Parada.

http://www.ucirvinesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/2014-15/Parada.Posed.2014FIBAWorldCup_rotator.jpg

So what? I used to play with and against current NBA players back in middle school and high school, and that doesn't mean I could even come close to hanging with them anymore.

[Solid Snake]

I could've been a former roommate of Stephen Hawking but that's not going to make me an authority on Black Holes.

[hateraid]

At the same time, these guys aren't Gods. Basketball is basketball. If you can play, you can play. If you have game, you have game. What separates the rest of us people with some skills from the NBA is height/size and elite athleticism. Skill is different from raw tools. Are you telling me the best basketball players in the world are all mostly 6'3" and above? Of course not. You just need to be that height to compete at the NBA level. There are tens of thousands of people (maybe more) people on this planet who have the skills to play at the NBA level but they can't because they are much shorter and lack the athleticism.

So being in the NBA isn't just about skills (although they are extremely, extremely skilled to the point where it would shock most people), it's about hitting the genetic lottery and being a certain height/size with a certain amount of athleticism.

Umm, your response is unclear. Are you agreeing with me? I never mentioned a height requirement. I'm saying the skillset is at a much higher level then us regular guys.

[warriorfan]

Tore my hip flexor off the bone then just as I came back I tore my left patella tendon... This was from ages 17-20... Spent 2-3 years on the sidelines, i missed the chance

weak genes

[kshutts1]

They left NBA pros open. Not high school scrubs.

You still won't get the shots off. They will close on you so fast and now you still have to shoot over a 6'6" player. And then you have to account for the beating you will get - the game is physical. Much more than we can even imagine.

You guys are idiots. Every post should say
0ppg on 0fg%
So you're saying they would, or would not, leave a high school scrub open? It seems like you're saying they would NOT, while also agreeing that they DID leave a pro open. So I"m confused.

That said, I'm not a HS scrub. Whenever I've played regularly, I've been a competitive college level... D 2 & 3, not 1... player.

I also stated in my post that I would not score if I was actually defended. In fact, I said I'd turn the ball over EVERY TIME I HAD IT if I was defended.

But if a player LITERALLY leaves me open? Yes. I will make some shots. I said 40% of my literally wide open, they're-letting-me-shoot shots will go in.

If you don't believe that, then I feel sorry for your apparent lack of skill.

[hateraid]

They left NBA pros open. Not high school scrubs.

You still won't get the shots off. They will close on you so fast and now you still have to shoot over a 6'6" player. And then you have to account for the beating you will get - the game is physical. Much more than we can even imagine.

You guys are idiots. Every post should say
0ppg on 0fg%

Exactly.
In my 20's my men's league team played an actually D2 college team and my TEAM could barely score on these guys. Every thing from their traps, physicality, to presses....There were parts of the game where I wanted no business touching the ball because I was exhausted. Imagine what type of pressure D an NBA team could put on me if I was the only player with no NBA experience? I couldn't get past half court I bet.

[Cleverness]

Exactly.
In my 20's my men's league team played an actually D2 college team and my TEAM could barely score on these guys. Every thing from their traps, physicality, to presses....There were parts of the game where I wanted no business touching the ball because I was exhausted. Imagine what type of pressure D an NBA team could put on me if I was the only player with no NBA experience? I couldn't get past half court I bet.

I believe it, but remember that in this hypothetical situation, you have 4 NBA players around you, not 4 rec league guys.

I still think you'd average more than 0 ppg given 40 mpg for a season. Your team would probably lose every game, but there will be some opportunities to shoot. You'll be gassed and not able to get back on defense, so cherry picking would happen. Plus, you'll be left alone in the corner to shoot 3s and some of those shots would go down.

[CavaliersFTW]

I believe it, but remember that in this hypothetical situation, you have 4 NBA players around you, not 4 rec league guys.

I still think you'd average more than 0 ppg given 40 mpg for a season. Your team would probably lose every game, but there will be some opportunities to shoot. You'll be gassed and not able to get back on defense, so cherry picking would happen. Plus, you'll be left alone in the corner to shoot 3s and some of those shots would go down.
This could just be me but I'd be the last to cross half court on offense if I felt even the least bit tired.

I'd hang back - but on defense, and concentrate all my energy on that end. I can't shoot well and I'm too small to even set a screen on a guard in the NBA so personally I know I'd be virtually useless in an NBA offense. Nothing more than a liability or a body in the way. On defense at least energy and effort can count for something... right? Plus hanging back maybe could pay off in stopping a transition play drawing a charge or something (so long as paramedics are in the building). That'd be my thought process of trying to survive NBA minutes and make myself as small a liability as possible.

[ClipperRevival]

Umm, your response is unclear. Are you agreeing with me? I never mentioned a height requirement. I'm saying the skillset is at a much higher level then us regular guys.

I am saying that their skill levels are off the charts to levels even most regular baller's aren't even aware of but that there are also some people who aren't playing in the NBA who have similar level of skills but the difference between them and NBA players in terms of how they impact the game is height/size and athleticism.

So my point is, just because you play in the NBA doesn't necessarily mean you are looking at the most skilled players in the world. You are looking at players who impact the game the most because of their combination of skills and size/athleticism.

[kshutts1]

Exactly.
In my 20's my men's league team played an actually D2 college team and my TEAM could barely score on these guys. Every thing from their traps, physicality, to presses....There were parts of the game where I wanted no business touching the ball because I was exhausted. Imagine what type of pressure D an NBA team could put on me if I was the only player with no NBA experience? I couldn't get past half court I bet.


A lot can be said for continuity, and having familiarity playing with those around you. That's a huge advantage to the D2 team.

When I was in college, my friends and I played in a basketball tournament in which our college team starting 5 entered. We came in second to them, but it was not embarrassing. We lost by six or eight, and I played the final game with a broken thumb (didn't know it was broken at the time) and shot with my off hand all game (only 3 shots, 1-3). Even with that horrid final game for me, I was our team's leading scorer.

Long story short... you and your friends likely aren't good, at all, and you faced a big disadvantage to begin with in terms of lack of familiarity.

[Nash]

honestly like 0.3ppg a game.

[nightprowler10]

Someone smarter than me needs to do a mathematical breakdown, something with odds, and percentiles, and how many god-like players on the street couldn't even crack a D-League, etc.
You don't need that. Just watch a retired White Mamba dominate every street baller out there.

[kshutts1]

You don't need that. Just watch a retired White Mamba dominate every street baller out there.
Totally, totally different dynamic.

None of us are arguing that we'd be as good as an NBA player, or even useful! WE all admit we'd be a liability, but what I, and one or two others, are stating is that we could hit a wide open shot if the defense literally ignored us and/or let us shoot.

[Droid101]

lmao :facepalm
Stay salty. Virtue of height makes me much more viable than most people. We're talking being forced to play for 40 minutes. Obviously if they had a choice, I wouldn't even be in the league (see my current NBA status).

[TheMan]

Some people on here can actually hoop unlike your fat ass. I'm sure there's at least 3 other people on here that can dunk.
First, I ain't fat but at 5"9, way too small and slow. Who gives a fvck if a non NBA player can dunk, doesn't mean a damn thing. They ain't dunking on an NBA defense. Stay delusional, you have absolutely no shot if you're out there and your opponent defends you like he would against any other NBA level player, in other words, your scrub ass don't get the benefit of being left wide open. If you don't get wide open looks, you ain't scoring, simple as that.

It's laughable how some of these idiots have no idea the gap between the NBA and the rest of us :facepalm The same doofuses who think they'll get a base hit vs major league pitching :rolleyes:

[kshutts1]

If you don't get wide open looks, you ain't scoring, simple as that.

It's laughable how some of these idiots have no idea the gap between the NBA and the rest of us :facepalm The same doofuses who think they'll get a base hit vs major league pitching :rolleyes:
Again, completely different dynamic.

The thread was not "Could you score on an NBA player one on one".

[Droid101]

Again, completely different dynamic.

The thread was not "Could you score on an NBA player one on one".
Totally. If I was on the court with LeBron James and Kyrie Irving, I'd get a few easy cut-to-the-basket buckets a game.

This wasn't asking "What would you average if you were the sole ball handler and distributor of a basketball team" but what would you average if you were on the court for 40 minutes with an NBA team.

[STATUTORY]

I would love to see Lebron try to take the ball from me and try that lebron ball bullshit with me, i really love for him to try it. I would punk that clown so hard

[ClipperRevival]

First, I ain't fat but at 5"9, way too small and slow. Who gives a fvck if a non NBA player can dunk, doesn't mean a damn thing. They ain't dunking on an NBA defense. Stay delusional, you have absolutely no shot if you're out there and your opponent defends you like he would against any other NBA level player, in other words, your scrub ass don't get the benefit of being left wide open. If you don't get wide open looks, you ain't scoring, simple as that.

It's laughable how some of these idiots have no idea the gap between the NBA and the rest of us :facepalm The same doofuses who think they'll get a base hit vs major league pitching :rolleyes:

I think you're being a bit hard on some people in here. You don't know their background or what level they played or how tall/athletic they are. The question was how you would fare in an NBA game. Say you have a guy who played some college ball and has some skills, these players would have success once in a while. Of course, overall, they would be dominated but they would have moments here and there.

[TheMan]

Again, completely different dynamic.

The thread was not "Could you score on an NBA player one on one".
Unless you can't shoot for shit, yeah I mean if you're left completely wide open frequently, then yeah, you should hit a couple of shots in that scenario, but let's say for some reason you AREN'T given the benefit of being left wide open, you aren't scoring, you'll average more TOs than PPG.

[dubeta]

I would love to see Lebron try to take the ball from me and try that lebron ball bullshit with me, i really love for him to try it. I would punk that clown so hard

loool so lebron making u a much better player than u already are is something u wouldnt want??

[Cleverness]

You don't need that. Just watch a retired White Mamba dominate every street baller out there.

He's 6'9" though; few people on the streets can even match up with him.

Guys like Mike Bibby, for example, aren't as invincible because a much bigger pool of players can actually match up against him

https://youtu.be/k6RgRv_awek?t=7m30s

Put a recently retired 7 footer on a rec league team and they win the rec league championship easy... but a recently retired pg or sg? Not so easy. (btw, Mike Bibby's team actually lost that game)

[TheMan]

I think you're being a bit hard on some people in here. You don't know their background or what level they played or how tall/athletic they are. The question was how you would fare in an NBA game. Say you have a guy who played some college ball and has some skills, these players would have success once in a while. Of course, overall, they would be dominated but they would have moments here and there.
Dude, 12th man on the bench players hardly ever play and have a hard time scoring, no one here is close to NBA 12th man level. If they are, basically means they are NBA level players, and I know there aren't any here like that. I don't care if they claim they were decent college hoops players at some unknown college, there is still a huge gap to the NBA. Simply put, Jeremy Lin, who gets a ton of shit here, would own your soul at your local rec league.

[LBJMVP]

lets see.. i played 4 years in high school and only intramurals in college.

so if it was mandatory that i play 40 minutes a night...

I would average 0 in every statistical category except turnover because i would turn it over every time i touched... so i actually might be low on turnovers because my teammates would never pass it to me.


anyway who says anything over 1 point per game is lying to themselves.

those guys are so fast, tall and strong. i would never get a rebound, i'd get ripped before i could even pass it. there would be no way to get a shot over these guy much less somehow dribble to get a layup.

I guess my only points would come from a free throw that was caused by intentionally fouling or if my teammate decided to give me a technical free throw just to score.

so ill give myself like 0.2 points a game.

[LBJMVP]

even the most elite college players and international players can't even touch the court in the nba and people on this board think they can put up stats in the nba :lol

[ClipperRevival]

even the most elite college players and international players can't even touch the court in the nba and people on this board think they can put up stats in the nba :lol

What are you talking about? There are a bunch of elite Euros who come here and make the NBA. And did you forget that our best players lost the Olympics a few years back and other international tournaments? There are some high level leagues around the world. Basketball is an international sport.

[kshutts1]

Unless you can't shoot for shit, yeah I mean if you're left completely wide open frequently, then yeah, you should hit a couple of shots in that scenario, but let's say for some reason you AREN'T given the benefit of being left wide open, you aren't scoring, you'll average more TOs than PPG.
I said this, making literally all of those points. So I agree.

My argument was based solely on what I've seen in literally every single NBA game I've ever watched. At some point or another, an NBA level player is wide open. It stands to reason, then, that someone of my caliber (bench warmer in college) would also be left open. Possibly more often.

If I am actually passed the ball, and if I don't have some 6'8 freak of athletic nature closing hard on me, arms up... IF AND ONLY IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN... then I'd shoot probably 40% on those wide open shots.

I truly don't get why people don't understand or agree with that.

[Droid101]

I truly don't get why people don't understand or agree with that.
Trying to make themselves feel better about being small or something, I don't know.

People get lost on defense, aren't paying attention, get turned around, etc.

Easy buckets happen. Us (non-pros) will miss wayyy more of those than a pro would, but we'd still get some. Rebounds bounce out randomly all the time to out-of-position players. Passing to a real pro, no matter where they are on the court, is a chance for an assist.

Now obviously non-pros without their diet/nutritionists/trainers will probably be gassed by the pace in less than 3 minutes of game time. But if we had all that, at least we'd be able to run up and down the court and hope to get open because a real pro draws a double.

[Solid Snake]

This is stating the obvious, but think for a second about your favorite team.


Think about the worst player on that team.

Did you picture him?

Then imagine for a second, that this player you just imagined, was absolutely a god-like beast during the high school level, and was the best player in his state, most likely the country (HS level) during his time. During college, he was one of the best 3 players on his team.

And now he's a "scrub" in the NBA that LITERALLY gets no minutes.

Yall are as good as him?

[STATUTORY]

loool so lebron making u a much better player than u already are is something u wouldnt want??


I'm an alpha!

on da real doe, I luv to be on Lebron's team, LeGM would offer me the max contract by end of season, Bran gets more n99as paid than the united negro college fund

[Cleverness]

This is stating the obvious, but think for a second about your favorite team.


Think about the worst player on that team.

Did you picture him?

Then imagine for a second, that this player you just imagined, was absolutely a god-like beast during the high school level, and was the best player in his state, most likely the country (HS level) during his time. During college, he was one of the best 3 players on his team.

And now he's a "scrub" in the NBA that LITERALLY gets no minutes.

Yall are as good as him?

That player has a torn acl, slow as hell, shot 11/54 fg, 3/27 on 3s, and can't play anymore. His main advantage is that he's 6'6"

[Rake2204]

Trying to make themselves feel better about being small or something, I don't know.

People get lost on defense, aren't paying attention, get turned around, etc.

Easy buckets happen. Us (non-pros) will miss wayyy more of those than a pro would, but we'd still get some. Rebounds bounce out randomly all the time to out-of-position players. Passing to a real pro, no matter where they are on the court, is a chance for an assist.

Now obviously non-pros without their diet/nutritionists/trainers will probably be gassed by the pace in less than 3 minutes of game time. But if we had all that, at least we'd be able to run up and down the court and hope to get open because a real pro draws a double.I agree with a lot of this. Whenever this topic pops up, there seems to be an extreme side of the debate suggesting that every NBA player who ever played would always block, steal, and deflect every shot attempt we ever took, even over the course of over 3,000 minutes of game time. Even in the face of being drastically outmatched for every single moment of those 40 minutes of game time, weird things happen every now and again.

As you said, even the idea of never getting a rebound over 82 games and 40 minutes a night is going a little too far in the wrong direction, in my opinion. Even with minimal effort, sometimes a rebound pops into a given direction if nothing else.

Like ClippersRevival said, we're all clearly heavily removed from NBA skill level in this hypothetical scenario. However, NBA players are not literal gods. Mistakes happen, strong double teams resulting in a ball rotation and swing to an open shooter happen, and sometimes the right play can happen.

As for the 12th man argument - absolutely, an NBA 12th man is tons and tons better than every single player on this board (unless there are NBA players on the board). However, if a 12th man were given 40 minutes per night for 82 games (as this specific hypothetical suggested), I reckon they'd put up some numbers, even if it comes on a sub-40% shooting percentage.

Basically, a 12th man averaging 1.4 points points per game in the 2.3 minutes of playing time they're given is not the same as one of us averaging 0.6 points per game in the 40 minutes we're guaranteed every single night in this scenario.

[Droid101]

As for the 12th man argument - absolutely, an NBA 12th man is tons and tons better than every single player on this board (unless there are NBA players on the board). However, if a 12th man were given 40 minutes per night for 82 games (as this specific hypothetical suggested), I reckon they'd put up some numbers, even if it comes on a sub-40% shooting percentage.

Basically, a 12th man averaging 1.4 points points per game in the 2.3 minutes of playing time they're given is not the same as one of us averaging 0.6 points per game in the 40 minutes we're guaranteed every single night in this scenario.
This is pretty much how I came up with my stats. I found Tskitishvili's stats (about the same frame but he's a bit taller), then did them for 40 MPG, then subtracted some from everything.

For his NBA career he averaged 2.9 points, 1.8 boards, 0.7 assists, .3 blk, .3 stl on 30% shooting (he shot many threes which dragged his % down) in 11 minutes a game.

40 MPG? 12 ppg, 8 rpg, 4 apg, 1.2 blk, 1.2 stl.

[kunk75]

I'm 6'2, 230, about 7% bf with a near 6'10 wing span and a good shooter and i would average 0/0/0 i would guess, maybe an assist. my son's trainer is one of the best IRL players I've seen, played D1, had 17 D1 offers and couldn't garner any nba interest so....you are all deluded.

[Cleverness]

I'm 6'2, 230, about 7% bf with a near 6'10 wing span and a good shooter and i would average 0/0/0 i would guess, maybe an assist. my son's trainer is one of the best IRL players I've seen, played D1, had 17 D1 offers and couldn't garner any nba interest so....you are all deluded.

We would all average 0/0/0 if the coach had a say in how many minutes we play. Nobody should be arguing that.

The hypothetical is that you play 40 mpg. So:

-Your team will lose every game
-You will not be able to compete with the speed, height, and athleticism of the NBA game

However, over the course of 40 minutes, I think you will be able to:
-cherry pick on offense
-shoot open 3s
-have a rebound bounce right to you on defense
-occasionally throw a pass that isn't stolen, leading to an assist

[kunk75]

ok, i'll say 1.5 points, 0.3 rebounds (I hang on the perimeter) .7 blocks given my gorilla length arms which would help on the perimeter and 1.5 assists. i'm also near 40 so i'm closer to the glue factory than an nba arena. i'd be delladova with more upside. :)

[Droid101]

i'd be delladova with more upside. :)
:lebronamazed:

[Bankaii]

First, I ain't fat but at 5"9, way too small and slow. Who gives a fvck if a non NBA player can dunk, doesn't mean a damn thing. They ain't dunking on an NBA defense. Stay delusional, you have absolutely no shot if you're out there and your opponent defends you like he would against any other NBA level player, in other words, your scrub ass don't get the benefit of being left wide open. If you don't get wide open looks, you ain't scoring, simple as that.

It's laughable how some of these idiots have no idea the gap between the NBA and the rest of us :facepalm The same doofuses who think they'll get a base hit vs major league pitching :rolleyes:
How are you 5'9 and slow fat****? The average 40 times in the NBA is probably around a 4.7-4.8, that's nothing special at all. And did you watch the Finals? Iggy, James Jones, Mike Miller all got WIDE open looks, and that's with 2 of the best defenses in the league. Can you really not hit a wide open shot? You must be one of the many losers on here that talk shit about NBA players but suck at basketball irl.

[hateraid]

A lot can be said for continuity, and having familiarity playing with those around you. That's a huge advantage to the D2 team.

When I was in college, my friends and I played in a basketball tournament in which our college team starting 5 entered. We came in second to them, but it was not embarrassing. We lost by six or eight, and I played the final game with a broken thumb (didn't know it was broken at the time) and shot with my off hand all game (only 3 shots, 1-3). Even with that horrid final game for me, I was our team's leading scorer.

Long story short... you and your friends likely aren't good, at all, and you faced a big disadvantage to begin with in terms of lack of familiarity.

A little presumptuous and condescending no? What makes you think I don't have college level competitive game much less my friends. Do you even know what men's league I play in? I have college players on my team and accomplished high schoolers like myself.
Furthermore the argument you use about familiarity can be used against you self except on an NBA level. The moment you'd step on the court they would immediately zone in on your weakness and exploit that the whole game. It's called game prep. After being exposed the first game you have 81 more games in which they know exactly what to do to shut you down. Face it, its a numbera and pride game. You think if you were an NBA player you'd want to be known as the dude a scrub who was granted his wish to play 40/82 scored double digits on? Hell the worst defensive PG in the game has enough pride to hold you to less than a basket, especially if his career and stats were on the line. Not to mention the familiarity? You're toast. Grant it, you may have 1 or 2 games where you may luck out and score 8 or 9 points, but you'd have long stretches of 0 which will average you out to less than a point a game.
You accuse others of not being good, I'd question if you actually play competitive ball and underestimate how the NBA just really is

[Derka]

47.5 minutes on the bench per season.

[kunk75]

47.5 minutes on the bench per season. lol lot of dreamers in this thread

[dubeta]

I'm an alpha!

on da real doe, I luv to be on Lebron's team, LeGM would offer me the max contract by end of season, Bran gets more n99as paid than the united negro college fund

:oldlol:

[senelcoolidge]

what would be the average fg% for ISH'ers? it should be laughable. i could see plenty of 1-30's 2-40's with decent minutes played. ISHer's layups would get blocked. the quantity of air balls would be astounding.

[kunk75]

how many posters are typing with cheetoh stained fat fingers in their mom's basements at 35% bf? that is the real question

[NugzFan]

So you're saying they would, or would not, leave a high school scrub open? It seems like you're saying they would NOT, while also agreeing that they DID leave a pro open. So I"m confused.

That said, I'm not a HS scrub. Whenever I've played regularly, I've been a competitive college level... D 2 & 3, not 1... player.

I also stated in my post that I would not score if I was actually defended. In fact, I said I'd turn the ball over EVERY TIME I HAD IT if I was defended.

But if a player LITERALLY leaves me open? Yes. I will make some shots. I said 40% of my literally wide open, they're-letting-me-shoot shots will go in.

If you don't believe that, then I feel sorry for your apparent lack of skill.

So you are saying you can hit some open jumpers?

Wow...such skill. :rolleyes:

I was clearly referring to ish posters saying they could score in an NBA game with NBA defenses. This stupid theoretical where the pros leave us wide open is a stupid and meaningless condition. Basically you guys think you can hit wide open jumpers.

Not thread worthy nor a brag.

Against NBA players no one here is making a shot. Not one.

[NugzFan]

ok, i'll say 1.5 points, 0.3 rebounds (I hang on the perimeter) .7 blocks given my gorilla length arms which would help on the perimeter and 1.5 assists. i'm also near 40 so i'm closer to the glue factory than an nba arena. i'd be delladova with more upside. :)

:oldlol: 1.5 ppg is 123 total points during the season

Never happening.

[Djax12]

If the head coach did throw me 40 minutes for the first 2 games,
I will get 80 DNP - coach decision / injured afterwards

[kunk75]

:oldlol: 1.5 ppg is 123 total points during the season

Never happening.

he didn't like my first answer of zero which is closer to the truth. this thread needs to die. i saw a guy the other night who is an 8th man on an italian team that would murder anyone on here, like 11-0 one on one in 1 minute murder.

my son is a very good hs basketball player, an incoming sophomore on a ranked varsity team and i haven't beaten him one on one in 3 years despite a 4 inch and 90lb advantage

[Droid101]

he didn't like my first answer of zero which is closer to the truth. this thread needs to die. i saw a guy the other night who is an 8th man on an italian team that would murder anyone on here, like 11-0 one on one in 1 minute murder.

my son is a very good hs basketball player, an incoming sophomore on a ranked varsity team and i haven't beaten him one on one in 3 years despite a 4 inch and 90lb advantage
5 on 5 is not 1 on 1

[kunk75]

yeah you are right, put 4 more nba level players out there and you'll be the GOAT

[sundizz]

yeah you are right, put 4 more nba level players out there and you'll be the GOAT

Stupid logic. It is easier to score in that situation than in a one on one situation. You are the weak link on offense - they'd play you like Tony Allen. In one on one of course you can't get off a free shot.

[kunk75]

holy shit do you know how good tony allen would be on any playground anywhere? you guys need to get your heads out of your asses its like watching food network and wondering how many michelin stars you'd have if you cooked something other than chef boy-ar-dee

and if you have any handles or any step back yes you can get a free shot in one-on-one

[Chadwin]

not much

The best guy I ever played against was Rashard Lewis at a summer tournament back in 1996. Some people have no concept of the level of athleticism these guys are at.

[kshutts1]

So you are saying you can hit some open jumpers?

Wow...such skill. :rolleyes:

I was clearly referring to ish posters saying they could score in an NBA game with NBA defenses. This stupid theoretical where the pros leave us wide open is a stupid and meaningless condition. Basically you guys think you can hit wide open jumpers.

Not thread worthy nor a brag.

Against NBA players no one here is making a shot. Not one.
That are trying, 100% of the time? Totally agree.

But we also just saw, in the FINALS, good NBA level players being left wide open. So I'm not coming in here saying... "I would be left open all the time" etc, etc, but rather.. over the course of a game I will be left open. If, in those instances, I'm lucky enough to receive a pass, then yes, I can conceivably score.

[kshutts1]

A little presumptuous and condescending no? What makes you think I don't have college level competitive game much less my friends. Do you even know what men's league I play in? I have college players on my team and accomplished high schoolers like myself.
Furthermore the argument you use about familiarity can be used against you self except on an NBA level. The moment you'd step on the court they would immediately zone in on your weakness and exploit that the whole game. It's called game prep. After being exposed the first game you have 81 more games in which they know exactly what to do to shut you down. Face it, its a numbera and pride game. You think if you were an NBA player you'd want to be known as the dude a scrub who was granted his wish to play 40/82 scored double digits on? Hell the worst defensive PG in the game has enough pride to hold you to less than a basket, especially if his career and stats were on the line. Not to mention the familiarity? You're toast. Grant it, you may have 1 or 2 games where you may luck out and score 8 or 9 points, but you'd have long stretches of 0 which will average you out to less than a point a game.
You accuse others of not being good, I'd question if you actually play competitive ball and underestimate how the NBA just really is
Presumptuous? No. Condescending? Most likely.
I say not presumptuous because you are the one that said the game was not competitive against a college team. It was a logical jump for me to then infer that your team as a whole has sub-college skill. You in particular? Perhaps I was off base. But the team as a whole is definitely sub-college.

As for the second bolded part... that's been my argument all along. I'm not saying I'd set the world on fire. Hell no. I'd be terrible. So terrible, in fact, that I'd have moments where I scored because I was forgotten about, or dared to shoot, or lucky enough to be the open man in the swing-the-ball game.

Then for the last bit.. I don't play competitive ball any more. Pretty sure I said that, too. My post was worded something like "when I played regularly...". Regardless, I can still out-shoot the vast majority of players, which is literally the only skill that matters in this thread scenario.

I was a HS all-star player. Big deal. That doesn't hold a candle to an NBA player in any way, shape, or form.
I was a competitive college athlete and basketball player. Again, big freakin' deal. That doesn't matter.

I would bet big, big money that not a single player on this forum would beat an NBA player off the dribble, and then score, under any circumstance. So, with that "bet", the only way we have left to score is to shoot an open shot.. and it just so happens that that's my strength. So who cares how good we are. Who cares how skilled we are. Who cares how big we are. We're not good enough, we're not big enough, we're not skilled enough. But if we're left open? I'll hit some of those.

[Rake2204]

So you are saying you can hit some open jumpers?

Wow...such skill. :rolleyes:

I was clearly referring to ish posters saying they could score in an NBA game with NBA defenses. This stupid theoretical where the pros leave us wide open is a stupid and meaningless condition. Basically you guys think you can hit wide open jumpers.

Not thread worthy nor a brag.

Against NBA players no one here is making a shot. Not one.The uniqueness of this given hypothetical is the fact that each player would receive 40 minutes of playing time per game over the course of an 82 game season, no matter what. I think it's a fun topic to consider due to the forced minutes angle. And unless they're clearly joking, I haven't really seen a ton of posters bragging about much here though (a lot of predicted scoring averages between 0.0 and 0.9... in 40 minutes a night).

I think NBA defenses would be silly not to cheat heavily off of most of us and dare us to shoot at many different points of the game. And the fact that one of us may hit an open jumper isn't a brag, it's just a consideration of the hypothetical. How often would a team dare a 6'4'' amateur shooting guard with low level college experience to rifle an NBA three? Enough times for someone to get lucky here or there over the course of 3,000 minutes?

As Cleverness, Droid and ClippersRevival mentioned, random things would happen over the course of 3,200 minutes of playing time, even including some players hitting a shot against NBA defense at some time or another.

Every single one of us would be the worst player to ever step on the NBA hardwood. However, given 40 minutes a night for 82 nights, I wouldn't doubt some could experience a moment or two of goodness for every couple hundred moments of awfulness.


holy shit do you know how good tony allen would be on any playground anywhere? you guys need to get your heads out of your asses its like watching food network and wondering how many michelin stars you'd have if you cooked something other than chef boy-ar-deeI could be wrong, but I think he was saying defenses would guard you like they guard Tony Allen, a player who is not treated as an offensive weapon from the perimeter in the NBA.

I think most would agree that Allen would roast anywhere, which kind of serves the point. He's a better shooter than us and still is often dared to shoot by NBA defenses. As such, in theory, wouldn't defenses dare us to shoot just as much, if not more?

[sundizz]

Some of you really don't understand sports. NBA players still are just human. To say you couldn't get a shot off in a NBA game is ridiculous. If you suck, yeah maybe that is true.

If you are a skilled and very good basketball player there is absolutely no reason you wouldn't be able to get a shot off here and there (as long as you have NBA three point range).

Yes, Tony Allen would absolutely dominate in any other league and be a beast. Still doesn't mean that he isn't a great shooter in games. He may be amazing in practice, but it doesn't translate to games.

Whereas, some of us on here probably are excellent shooters.

I think all most of us are saying is that we could conceivably camp out in a corner and let Lebron/Cp3/Curry etc do their stuff and draw double teams we could take an open shot/dribble drive now and again.

I, and I assume many of you, have played against D1 level talent at university and the hardest part is that we physically don't have the endurance/etc. I know I would miss my shot because of how tired I'd be, not because I don't have the skill to get a shot off, or find an open spot on the floor.

I used to be friends in college with this 6'11 guy that was going to make the NBA most likely as a 15th man/maybe NBDL. He sadly shredded his knee in his last game at college. In the summer, I helped him work on his ball handling/jump shot a lot and we played a very modified 1 on 1 game (he wasn't allowed within 13 feet of the rim to shoot). The offense part is not important but on defense I could score on him fairly easily and he was an all-conference defensive player. At his size my quickness advantage/ability to shoot from NBA range just too much. I'm not saying I made every shot against him, or he didn't block me regularly, but it wasn't all that difficult to get off a shot.

Similarly, if I were to camp out in a corner and Kendrick Perkins closed out from the key I'm pretty sure I could either get off a shot or go around him occasionally if he really went hard for the shot block. It's just basic basketball.

There are those summer league/Rucker Park etc games where it is quite a few NBA players playing at them. Ya'll acting like the NBA players never get scored on ever.

Edit: I agree with the poster above. We'd be an abomination and the worst player to ever step foot out there and the only reason we'd score is because of that. We'd get no respect and eventually, with enough shots, we'd score here and there.

[Westbrook0]

ok, i'll say 1.5 points, 0.3 rebounds (I hang on the perimeter) .7 blocks given my gorilla length arms which would help on the perimeter and 1.5 assists. i'm also near 40 so i'm closer to the glue factory than an nba arena. i'd be delladova with more upside. :)


DUDE - If you averaged 0.7 blocks per game that would put you 69th in the NBA in blocks per game. Out of like 450 players. LeBron averaged 0.7 bpg this season and he's 6'8, 260 and one of the freakiest athletes the game has ever seen.

You trying to tell us that if we toss you out on the court today in the NBA game, you would average more blocks than 70% of the league?

:oldlol:

[DOUBLE DRIBBLE]

I'd never reach 40 mins... Because I'd foul out of the game within 20 mins.

0-6 in FG's with 7 turnovers.

[Collie]

Maybe 8.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.9 apg per 40 mpg. I'm a decent shooter, could probably hit a few open threes. Deceptively quick as well, so I could get to the hole a few times, though my FG% would be pretty bad. I'm a decent rebounder for my size, maybe 2 rebounds per game from lose balls.

Nah, just kidding, would probably last 5-7 minutes at the NBA pace and would panic and turn the ball over on the 2nd dribble.

[Mr. Jabbar]

15/6/4

now seriously

14/5/3

[dubeta]

15/6/4

now seriously

14/5/3

Ur already better than Kobe :applause:

[iamgine]

I think I've seen this topic on here before, but it always gives me a great laugh because of all the people that think they are even close to being able to produce on an NBA level.

It's pretty easy to sit on your computer on an NBA message board and talk about how you could've made the league or could've been a great college player if you would have just stuck with it, and how you could probably hang on an NBA roster and are as good as players like Steve Novak and Spencer Dinwiddie.

Anyway, I love this topic because it always cheers me up to see how delusional people are.


So the bottom line: What would YOU average if you were thrown onto an NBA roster and given 40 minutes of playing time per night?

Me:

40 mpg
1.7 ppg
1.2 rpg
0.6 apg
0.2 spg
0.1 bpg
7.8 TO/game
15% FG
11% 3PT
It all depends on the roster. If we have Lebron and Wade like '11 Miami then all I need to do is practice and make open 3s. I might be able to average 6+ points that way.

[kunk75]

6'10 wingspan on a 6'2 white boy they'd never see me coming
[
QUOTE=Westbrook0]DUDE - If you averaged 0.7 blocks per game that would put you 69th in the NBA in blocks per game. Out of like 450 players. LeBron averaged 0.7 bpg this season and he's 6'8, 260 and one of the freakiest athletes the game has ever seen.

You trying to tell us that if we toss you out on the court today in the NBA game, you would average more blocks than 70% of the league?

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

[kunk75]

this thread is a dIII all star team

[kjarnorkudori]

I'm 6'7 barefoot and in my twenties so that's an advantage over most of the guys here. I'd like to think that I'd be able to hit a few shots a game as I'd be open a lot since it would make sense to put two guys on a better player.
Considering that I'd be a complete liability.

7 points bad fg%
3 rebounds
1.4 assists
40mpg

[TheMarkMadsen]

holy shit you guys are delusional

[fragokota]

A big fat zero, maybe a rebound and a fluke point right and there.

[kunk75]

holy shit you guys are delusional

i guarantee mark titus is better than everyone here by like 1000% and couldn't get minutes at ohio state

[Solid Snake]

holy shit you guys are delusional

This

[Angel Face]

Scoring champion, 30+ppg tbh.

[KungFuJoe]

I wouldn't even touch the ball. And my guy would score on me. Every single time. It would be like Rudy, without any of the feel good stuff.

[Ne 1]

I'd bet nobody on this forum would even make the the NBA's D-League. The NBA has the best basketball players on the planet. Only the top 1.2% of college players even make it to the NBA.

[Lebron23]

You can posts your videos in this thread.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352546&page=90

[Ne 1]

Dude, 12th man on the bench players hardly ever play and have a hard time scoring, no one here is close to NBA 12th man level. If they are, basically means they are NBA level players, and I know there aren't any here like that. I don't care if they claim they were decent college hoops players at some unknown college, there is still a huge gap to the NBA. Simply put, Jeremy Lin, who gets a ton of shit here, would own your soul at your local rec league.
Exactly. These guys are delusional. Even the worst D-League or Euroleague players are better than the average person at basketball, they wouldn't be making money playing if not.

[Parps]

3 Robert Sacre celebrations