NFL players mad at the Money NBA players are getting

[SyRyanYang]

Most def playing the wrong sport. Lord why did you make me 6'3 and not 6'9 so I could be in the #NBA I want guaranteed contracts 😪😪




Dear NBA is it too late for me to live out my hoop dreams ?!!! Eww Lord these boys getting paid




Man everyday getting paid today it's like Christmas in July can I go back and hoop again please?!?!?!?




Boy these NBA contracts! 💰👀




All this guaranteed money NBA throwing. Meanwhile the NFL, which generates the most money wont even make the league minimum $1M


http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2015/07/01/duke-ihenacho-former-broncos-safety-calls-out-nfl-as-nba-free-agency-opens/34389/

[FireDavidKahn]

The NFL was the better model. 100% guaranteed contracts are dumb.

[L8krH8tr]

lol anyone watch that show BALLERS on Hbo, NFL players are more stupid than NBA players.

[warriorfan]

http://www.incrediblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/worlds-smallest-violin-2-434x600.jpg

[RoundMoundOfReb]

One player contributes far less in the NFL than 1 player in the NBA. except maybe qbs who are fairly paid. (also 16 games vs 82)

[FireDavidKahn]

lol anyone watch that show BALLERS on Hbo, NFL players are more stupid than NBA players.
Allen Iverson and Antoine Walker vehemently disagree with you.

[T_L_P]

Less games, higher risk of injury and like fifty players on a roster.

Not to mention you generally need to be a more skilled athlete to make it in the NBA than you do the NFL. The NFL is full of guys who tried making the league but couldn't.

[SpecialQue]

lol anyone watch that show BALLERS on Hbo, NFL players are more stupid than NBA players.

Holy fvck are you a moron.

[warriorfan]

The Lord did Chris Baker dirty, only blessing him with an NFL contract? #FuccTheLord

[longtime lurker]

Counting another man's money is bitch made. Maybe the NFL needs to improve their union.

[VeeCee15]

not to mention NBA is a global sport..while no one watches American Football outside of the USA.

NBA players are generally way more gifted and talented than NFL players. NBA players are gernally way more athletic and need to be tall as well

[Spurs m8]

lol stupid arse people

[Rose'sACL]

you need to be more skilled to make it in the nba as compared to nfl.

[pmj]

Dumb part is there is nothing about the NFL that says you can't have guaranteed contracts, they can all simply negotiate for it. There are non guaranteed contracts in the NBA too, just for the scrubs that can't demand a real one.

[christian1923]

NFLPA needs better lawyers.

Their sports far and away makes the most money of all major U.S. sports but the players are earning the least amount lol

NFL salary cap should be like 300 million

[midatlantic09]

NBA contracts shouldn't be fully guaranteed. When you do that, you risk that the beneficiary of said contract will just do the bare minimum to get paid, and not a bit more. As a result, you risk the quality of play when everything is guaranteed.

NBA should really have the model the NFL has while the NFL should have the model the NBA has.

[imnew09]

NFLPA needs better lawyers.

Their sports far and away makes the most money of all major U.S. sports but the players are earning the least amount lol

NFL salary cap should be like 300 million


I wouldnt say that because they only play 16 games versus 82 games from NBA. If we count the money per game, nfl is not that worse off

[midatlantic09]

I don't have a problem with the amount of money being thrown around, but I do think it's very problematic when you have role players making $13-15 mil a yr. 8 figure salaries should be reserved for the players people actually come to see (ie not Wes Matthews, Demarre Carroll, Khris Middleton, etc).

[4 Inches]

White people lowkey mad aswell http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/5I5s8.png

[livinglegend]

I don't have a problem with the amount of money being thrown around, but I do think it's very problematic when you have role players making $13-15 mil a yr. 8 figure salaries should be reserved for the players people actually come to see (ie not Wes Matthews, Demarre Carroll, Khris Middleton, etc).

WTF? It's business.
If they can afford to pay them, then there's no problem.

[NugzFan]

The NFL was the better model. 100% guaranteed contracts are dumb.


Agreed. Guaranteed contracts are the worst.

[midatlantic09]

WTF? It's business.
If they can afford to pay them, then there's no problem.

You're missing my point. My point is that guys like Lebron, Kobe, Curry, Harden, etc. should be making $50+ million a year because they actually draw in fans. Sure, teams can do whatever they want, but this tv money should really be reserved for the guys who bring in the revenues...not role players.

Just like a salesperson at a company gets paid based upon what they bring in, NBA players should be paid based upon what they bring in, but unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

[RedBlackAttack]

The NFL can be pretty brutal and cut-throat when it comes to the business side of things. That shield just has an incredible amount of power and, unlike in the NBA, no player, coach or general manager is bigger than The Shield.

However, there are some pretty key differences, the first being that an NFL gameday roster is comprised of 53 players, and that doesn't include all of the practice guys who are called up on a daily/weekly basis. There are 22 starting players and that doesn't include special teams. Multiply all of that over 32 teams and the numbers get pretty high. When you have that many guys, a pretty good wide receiver isn't going to be getting $100 million in guaranteed money.

Fact is, the NBA is a more exclusive club. There are only 13 players allowed to dress for an NBA game, only five starters, and just 30 teams.

[pauk]

What RBA said + :

NBA = basketball = best basketball on earth = basketball is extremly popular globally, would like to think 2nd most popular sport on earth, personally think its the best team sport on earth (better than overrated football/soccer), there is far more viewers because of this, if the US channels broadcasted NFL/NBA the NBA ratings would sky rocket where as the opposite would happen to NFL.

NFL = american "foot" ball = american rugby = rugby for sissys, rugby with protection = nobody outside US cares about that, those who would watch that would at least look at rugby first or something and still... american "foot" ball or rugby is as popular as womens cricket anyways, so who cares.... NFL players should just be happy they actually found the only country on planet earth & universe they can get payed that much to play a shitty sport.

[Jameerthefear]

You're missing my point. My point is that guys like Lebron, Kobe, Curry, Harden, etc. should be making $50+ million a year because they actually draw in fans. Sure, teams can do whatever they want, but this tv money should really be reserved for the guys who bring in the revenues...not role players.

Just like a salesperson at a company gets paid based upon what they bring in, NBA players should be paid based upon what they bring in, but unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.
nah that's dumb

[catch24]

What RBA said + :

NBA = basketball = best basketball on earth = basketball is extremly popular globally, would like to think 2nd most popular sport on earth, personally think its the best team sport on earth (better than overrated football/soccer), there is far more viewers because of this, if the US channels broadcasted NFL/NBA the NBA ratings would sky rocket where as the opposite would happen to NFL.

NFL = american "foot" ball = american rugby = rugby for sissys, rugby with protection = nobody outside US cares about that, those who would watch that would at least look at rugby first or something and still... american "foot" ball or rugby is as popular as womens cricket anyways, so who cares.... NFL players should just be happy they actually found the only country on planet earth & universe they can get payed that much to play a shitty sport.

:oldlol:

Most rugby players would get completely demolished in the NFL. The concussion lawsuits would be tenfold with these "non pad" blokes playing in the league.

[SpecialQue]

What RBA said + :

NBA = basketball = best basketball on earth = basketball is extremly popular globally, would like to think 2nd most popular sport on earth, personally think its the best team sport on earth (better than overrated football/soccer), there is far more viewers because of this, if the US channels broadcasted NFL/NBA the NBA ratings would sky rocket where as the opposite would happen to NFL.

NFL = american "foot" ball = american rugby = rugby for sissys, rugby with protection = nobody outside US cares about that, those who would watch that would at least look at rugby first or something and still... american "foot" ball or rugby is as popular as womens cricket anyways, so who cares.... NFL players should just be happy they actually found the only country on planet earth & universe they can get payed that much to play a shitty sport.

Can't believe I agree with you here, but this is spot-on.

[pauk]

Love all other American sports, Hockey, Baseball, MMA, etc. love American taste in sports, love how you guys rate Basketball >>>>>>> Soccer especially,

But that American "Foot" ball thingy... :no:

If you go outside America you will get surrounded and laughed at by a huge crowd if you even mention NFL/american football in the same breath of NBA/Basketball.... :D

[midatlantic09]

nah that's dumb

Great explanation...

[christian1923]

What RBA said + :

NBA = basketball = best basketball on earth = basketball is extremly popular globally, would like to think 2nd most popular sport on earth, personally think its the best team sport on earth (better than overrated football/soccer), there is far more viewers because of this, if the US channels broadcasted NFL/NBA the NBA ratings would sky rocket where as the opposite would happen to NFL.

NFL = american "foot" ball = american rugby = rugby for sissys, rugby with protection = nobody outside US cares about that, those who would watch that would at least look at rugby first or something and still... american "foot" ball or rugby is as popular as womens cricket anyways, so who cares.... NFL players should just be happy they actually found the only country on planet earth & universe they can get payed that much to play a shitty sport.
What does global popularity have to do with how much players get paid by their league? NFL more than doubles the revenue of the NBA.

[pauk]

What does global popularity have to do with how much players get paid by their league? NFL more than doubles the revenue of the NBA.

Really? :roll:

[sd3035]

16 games

[CelticBaller]

theres 50+ people in an nfl roster

only 15 max on an nba one

:confusedshrug:

[dubeta]

The NBA is a players league. You think anybody in the NFL could literally have teams clearing out cap space and bending over their back like LeBron had in 2010?

[Pushxx]

Supply and demand.

[FKAri]

I'd be mad too if I were in the NFL instead of the NBA.

-More likely to get injured and not get paid at all
-Going to probably have a shorter career on average
-Won't even be making as much money when I'm actually playing

[TheCorporation]

It's simple.

Roster size...

And...

16 games

And 1 game playoff rounds...


NEXT!

[Collie]

If you're an athlete, the NBA has probably got to be the Holy Grail of getting rich. Even if you're mediocre, but you can contribute, you'll be a millionaire many times over. I believe that NBA players are also among the most marketed athletes in the world.

[BasedTom]

If you're an athlete, the NBA has probably got to be the Holy Grail of getting rich. Even if you're mediocre, but you can contribute, you'll be a millionaire many times over. I believe that NBA players are also among the most marketed athletes in the world.
MLB, soccer >>>>>>>>>

mlb players spend a sizable chunk of the game either sitting in the dugout or standing on the field waiting for a hit to come their way (and they catch them at the same rate as NBA guys make wide open layups). At bat, it's statistically expected that you'll miss a lot more than you hit, so unless it's deep in the playoffs, there's not much pressure to individually go out there and carry the team on your back. If you're a pitcher, then you get days and innings off. If you're in the AL, then you can be a fatass DH and still be revered as baseball jesus for the occasional big hit. And if you're good for a few years, enjoy your $200 million contract.

[FireDavidKahn]

If you're an athlete, the NBA has probably got to be the Holy Grail of getting rich. Even if you're mediocre, but you can contribute, you'll be a millionaire many times over. I believe that NBA players are also among the most marketed athletes in the world.
Nah, MLB had that best by a mile. Not only are contracts 100 percent guaranteed, but even if you get caught with roids you still get all that money.

[dunksby]

These morons whining about their physical gifts now? I have seen it all now :roll:

[RedBlackAttack]

Really? :roll:
Yes, really.

People outside the USA have an incredibly strange relationship with American football that borders on anger. Whether it is because the sport is -- by far -- the most popular in the United States or because they don't like/understand the game, I find it to be a pretty weird phenomena.

I have no problem with the fact that football or futbol or soccer or whatever you want to call it is so popular globally. Hell, I find the game fascinating when I'm interested enough to watch.

Rugby? Have at it, guys. It looks like a fun game, although I know nothing about it.

American football? Just bringing it up usually results in angry Europeans dismissing the sport, its (incredible) popularity in the United States and just basically getting disgusted for reasons unknown.

I'd hate to think that all of this anger, annoyance and dismissiveness is related to the fact that the sport is called "football," but I can't help but notice it is always brought up as a point of contention. Who gives a flying f#ck what the sport calls itself?

The US has created and cultivated some of the best sports of the modern world. A lot of people outside the US seem unwilling to even give American football a chance. It's a great game based mainly on strategy... basically a chess game being played at 100mph at each snap. When you understand why the huddles are so crucial and what each of the 22 players on the field are supposed to be doing and the beauty of when it goes right... it's an incredible game.

It is nothing like futbol or rugby or any other game it is compared to, so it requires being watched differently. If you don't like it, fine... but the guys who play it and its enormous power as THE current American pastime deserves more respect than it gets when you cross the US border.

/rant

[dunksby]

Yes, really.

People outside the USA have an incredibly strange relationship with American football that borders on anger. Whether it is because the sport is -- by far -- the most popular in the United States or because they don't like/understand the game, I find it to be a pretty weird phenomena.

I have no problem with the fact that football or futbol or soccer or whatever you want to call it is so popular globally. Hell, I find the game fascinating when I'm interested enough to watch.

Rugby? Have at it, guys. It looks like a fun game, although I know nothing about it.

American football? Just bringing it up usually results in angry Europeans dismissing the sport, its (incredible) popularity in the United States and just basically getting disgusted for reasons unknown.

I'd hate to think that all of this anger, annoyance and dismissiveness is related to the fact that the sport is called "football," but I can't help but notice it is always brought up as a point of contention. Who gives a flying f#ck what the sport calls itself?

The US has created and cultivated some of the best sports of the modern world. A lot of people outside the US seem unwilling to even give American football a chance. It's a great game based mainly on strategy... basically a chess game being played at 100mph at each snap. When you understand why the huddles are so crucial and what each of the 22 players on the field are supposed to be doing and the beauty of when it goes right... it's an incredible game.

It is nothing like futbol or rugby or any other game it is compared to, so it requires being watched differently. If you don't like it, fine... but the guys who play it and its enormous power as THE current American pastime deserves more respect than it gets when you cross the US border.

/rant
Just because idiots are vocal about it doesn't mean it's true for everyone, Eurosport channel has been broadcasting college football for years now. I ****ing hate rygby, it's crude and boring as ****, even those non-Americans who keep bashing American football using rygby hate that shit.

[Sarcastic]

The NFL was the better model. 100% guaranteed contracts are dumb.

The NBA does not have all 100% guaranteed contracts, and there is nothing in the CBA which forces any team to guarantee them. When players get guaranteed contracts, it's because the team wanted it that way.

[Soundwave]

NFL players should get paid more, but they should also stop caving to owners demands in every CBA.

[imdaman99]

Dez Bryant gonna get paid almost a mill a game and he is ready to sit out because of being franchised :wtf:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Yes, really.

People outside the USA have an incredibly strange relationship with American football that borders on anger. Whether it is because the sport is -- by far -- the most popular in the United States or because they don't like/understand the game, I find it to be a pretty weird phenomena.

I have no problem with the fact that football or futbol or soccer or whatever you want to call it is so popular globally. Hell, I find the game fascinating when I'm interested enough to watch.

Rugby? Have at it, guys. It looks like a fun game, although I know nothing about it.

American football? Just bringing it up usually results in angry Europeans dismissing the sport, its (incredible) popularity in the United States and just basically getting disgusted for reasons unknown.

I'd hate to think that all of this anger, annoyance and dismissiveness is related to the fact that the sport is called "football," but I can't help but notice it is always brought up as a point of contention. Who gives a flying f#ck what the sport calls itself?

The US has created and cultivated some of the best sports of the modern world. A lot of people outside the US seem unwilling to even give American football a chance. It's a great game based mainly on strategy... basically a chess game being played at 100mph at each snap. When you understand why the huddles are so crucial and what each of the 22 players on the field are supposed to be doing and the beauty of when it goes right... it's an incredible game.

It is nothing like futbol or rugby or any other game it is compared to, so it requires being watched differently. If you don't like it, fine... but the guys who play it and its enormous power as THE current American pastime deserves more respect than it gets when you cross the US border.

/rant

You've hit the nail on the head, really. It's not really relatable to any other sport and it's more to do with not understanding it than anything else. I admit to having been someone who trashed it for not understanding it and having got into it more, i can appreciate it for what it is.

It's still less watchable than football, basketball or cricket imo but with RedZone I can enjoy it.

[Genaro]

I don't know about the other countries but here in Brasil, the NFL is gaining a lot of public lately. ESPN broadcasts like 4 or 5 games per week. I personally don't like it but I can see it's growing among the young male population.

[StephHamann]

Yes, really.

People outside the USA have an incredibly strange relationship with American football that borders on anger. Whether it is because the sport is -- by far -- the most popular in the United States or because they don't like/understand the game, I find it to be a pretty weird phenomena.

I have no problem with the fact that football or futbol or soccer or whatever you want to call it is so popular globally. Hell, I find the game fascinating when I'm interested enough to watch.

Rugby? Have at it, guys. It looks like a fun game, although I know nothing about it.

American football? Just bringing it up usually results in angry Europeans dismissing the sport, its (incredible) popularity in the United States and just basically getting disgusted for reasons unknown.

I'd hate to think that all of this anger, annoyance and dismissiveness is related to the fact that the sport is called "football," but I can't help but notice it is always brought up as a point of contention. Who gives a flying f#ck what the sport calls itself?

The US has created and cultivated some of the best sports of the modern world. A lot of people outside the US seem unwilling to even give American football a chance. It's a great game based mainly on strategy... basically a chess game being played at 100mph at each snap. When you understand why the huddles are so crucial and what each of the 22 players on the field are supposed to be doing and the beauty of when it goes right... it's an incredible game.

It is nothing like futbol or rugby or any other game it is compared to, so it requires being watched differently. If you don't like it, fine... but the guys who play it and its enormous power as THE current American pastime deserves more respect than it gets when you cross the US border.

/rant

As a Euro i try to answer.

People don't like that from 3 hours they actually play only a few minutes. Most of the time the clock is running without action and you have many commercials. If you watch a football game it's 90 minutes without commercials, and a 15 min break.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-FG885_Footba_DV_20100115010106.jpg

They don't understand the rules.

They don't like the atmosphere in US sports in general, fans don't sing like in Europe.

I'm a big american football fan, i tried to watch games with friends, but most of them don't like the sport.

[unknowns8]

:oldlol:

Most rugby players would get completely demolished in the NFL. The concussion lawsuits would be tenfold with these "non pad" blokes playing in the league.



:facepalm

rugby players play the entire 80mins with no extra padding/protection on ... unlike you NFL lightweights who stop after every single play to have a team hug and high five the nearest person

and then when you lose the ball - AN ENTIRE NEW TEAM COMES ON!!!

GTFO outta here!!!

[DMV2]

The NFL was the better model. 100% guaranteed contracts are dumb.

Agreed. Guaranteed contracts are the worst.
I need some explanation on why it's dumb or the worst.

I think the NFL is being a cheapskate for not guaranteeing their players money. And because NFL players are most vulnerable to serious injuries and concussions, why shouldn't they get guaranteed contracts?

[midatlantic09]

NFL players should get paid more, but they should also stop caving to owners demands in every CBA.

The players have no real leverage though. Even if they strike, that doesn't really hurt the owners as virtually all NFL owners have a net worth of $500+ million and don't need the money whereas the players truly do need the money. The owners are the ones in the drivers seat.

[DCL]

only 400-something spots in the nba and at least 3/4 of them are pretty locked up. that leaves about 100 open spots, probably even less. it's a pretty tough and elite club to get into.

[j3lademaster]

:facepalm

rugby players play the entire 80mins with no extra padding/protection on ... unlike you NFL lightweights who stop after every single play to have a team hug and high five the nearest person

and then when you lose the ball - AN ENTIRE NEW TEAM COMES ON!!!

GTFO outta here!!!agreed rugby players are most likely more well conditioned than nfl players, but American football is definitely a more dangerous sport. Pads actually make it more dangerous in a lot of situations. You're in the air grabbing a pass and you don't think the safety knows your lower back is unprotected? He's going to drive his shoulder pad right into you and make you feel it. Also in rugby players are running next to each other and most tackles are wrap-up takedowns. You don't have a "padded up" 6'2 210 lbs safety with 4.6 speed coming at you with a full head of steam while you're trying to focus on your route and securing the pass.

[warriorfan]

Football is very complicated compared to the other sports. It has lots of rules that are hard to follow if you didn't grow up playing football or at least watching it with someone to explain it to you. It's pretty much an American tradition. Adults who weren't ever exposed to football growing up have a hard time warming up to the game. This holds true for all sports but for football even more so.

[HurricaneKid]

NFL players should get paid more, but they should also stop caving to owners demands in every CBA.

The Avg NFL career is 3.3 years. NFL players can't afford to sit out a year. And since the owners have ALL the leverage they win every labor dispute. In baseball and basketball at least the players can pretend they are willing to strike.

[j3lademaster]

Wonder why UFC fighters aren't more outspoken about their earnings. Jon Bones made 1/2 mil for the dc/bones fight and that's regarded as a "holy shit" level purse, you go down the cards and you have fighters scrapping for a few g's. You compare this to the revenue the UFC is bringing in, these guys might as well be getting paid in food stamps and peanuts.

[DCL]

Wonder why UFC fighters aren't more outspoken about their earnings. Jon Bones made 1/2 mil for the dc/bones fight and that's regarded as a "holy shit" level purse, you go down the cards and you have fighters scrapping for a few g's. You compare this to the revenue the UFC is bringing in, these guys might as well be getting paid in food stamps and peanuts.


because dana white is owner of the ENTIRE LEAGUE. there aren't 30 different team owners over there. there's only one. (well, he has other partners, but they're pretty much the same owner.) with that leverage, he can pretty much say, "you want more money? okay, go F yourself" to almost anyone.

the fighters can of course jump to another league, but if they want to fight in the UFC, they only have "take it or leave it" options if they're nobody special.

[christian1923]

Dez Bryant gonna get paid almost a mill a game and he is ready to sit out because of being franchised :wtf:
He still wants some long term security with the franchise. The team he plays his heart out for every game.