lose/lose situation.. kobe gets help. hes carried. kobe doesnt get help. hes a cancer

[kennethgriffin]

The way i look at it.

Prime superstars have been avoiding kobe for 20 years. The only one he ever had left him in 2004.. then he won with a boarderline star that only went to LA through a trade

Yet he still managed to have 7 finals appearances. 3 without another superstar. And wn 5 total ... 2 without another legendary guy


Meanwhile throughout history all the other greats other than hakeem won absolutely nothing without another top 25 player all time

Kobe won 2 without a top 90 player all time

And the only time he ever got another big name guy was when they were 40 and past their best days


This shows kobe is the most alpha player all time and the most successful without a stacked deck in his favor


Lebron riggs every team and has multiple prime superstars every year since 2011 and hes 2 for 5 during that stretch


Prime kobe wins in 2011,2012,2013,2014 .... and he feeds mozgov in 2015 to have a fighting chance against a better team while shooting much better than 28% beyond 5 feet




People shouldnt hate on kobe for scaring peoplw away. Its obviously not due to a lack of winning. People are just shook of his personality/work ethic/passion and greatness


They dont wanna be overshadowed. Rightfully so. Who does.

Colluders and ring chasers all assume theyre gonna get respect and credit if theyre the #1 guy... but look at lebron. Hes proven this is a lie.



All colluding backstabbers are scum whether they win or not. So keep them away from the lakers. We dont need em

[GIF REACTION]

Dude.... Us real Laker fans DESPISE you

You give all of us a bad name. Just Stop.

[kennethgriffin]

Dude.... Us real Laker fans DESPISE you

You give all of us a bad name. Just Stop.


You havig a kobe jersey in your avatar makes you about as much of a laker fan as my lebron avatar makes me a cavs fan

:lol


TEAM BRAN!

CAVS NATION!

[BasedTom]

SHUT THE **** UP KENNETH

[toxicxr6]

You havig a kobe jersey in your avatar makes you about as much of a laker fan as my lebron avatar makes me a cavs fan

:lol


TEAM BRAN!

CAVS NATION!


See Kenneth you know how delusional you are when your own team mates chat stand you

Actually I get it now... You are actually Kobe Bryant aren't you in real life? It makes total sense... You are just as good at running your team mates out of town as Kobe is....

:facepalm

[GIF REACTION]

SHUT THE **** UP KENNETH

[Dro]

I wonder what its like to be a stan. No seriously. To not have the ability to be objective whatsoever or admit any wrong doing by my idol. I'm truly fascinated......Please explain to me how it feels to be a stan.....Help me understand.....

[ISHGoat]

SHUT THE **** UP KENNETH

[kennethgriffin]

Lol@a bunch of colluder fans getting angry at the truth

[branslowski]

OP has a point:

Some posters here are mentally retarded when they hate honestly...Because when Kobe doesn't get a star player to play with him then it means "No one wants to play with jokebe", yet n still these are the same posters who constantly say "Kobe always has stacked teams hahah barf"..:wtf: On what world does that make sense?

That's like saying " Haha you still a virgin who never get pusse, thats why you only got 5 babymoms! haha barf"..:biggums:

Seriously Kobe can't win with the haters....Plays with help=Carried, Plays with no help= No one wants to play with Kobe...Kobe's just a hated individual, but you know what, greatness is hated so haters must hate greatness because greatness is what they will never taste.

[kennethgriffin]

OP has a point:

Some posters here are mentally retarded when they hate honestly...Because when Kobe doesn't get a star player to play with him then it means "No one wants to play with jokebe", yet n still these are the same posters who constantly say "Kobe always has stacked teams hahah barf"..:wtf: On what world does that make sense?

That's like saying " Haha you still a virgin who never get pusse, thats why you only got 5 babymoms! haha barf"..:biggums:

Seriously Kobe can't win with the haters....Plays with help=Carried, Plays with no help= No one wants to play with Kobe...Kobe's just a hated individual, but you know what, greatness is hated so haters must hate greatness because greatness is what they will never taste.



^ this



Hypocrotical to say kobe cant get help but he has too much. Doesnt make sense


But my point is he never had another superstar except shaq and hasnt played with him in over a decade yet still managed a top 5-6 all time career

[SouBeachTalents]

The way i look at it.

Prime superstars have been avoiding kobe for 20 years. The only one he ever had left him in 2004.. then he won with a boarderline star that only went to LA through a trade

Yet he still managed to have 7 finals appearances. 3 without another superstar. And wn 5 total ... 2 without another legendary guy


Meanwhile throughout history all the other greats other than hakeem won absolutely nothing without another top 25 player all time

Kobe won 2 without a top 90 player all time

And the only time he ever got another big name guy was when they were 40 and past their best days


This shows kobe is the most alpha player all time and the most successful without a stacked deck in his favor


Lebron riggs every team and has multiple prime superstars every year since 2011 and hes 2 for 5 during that stretch


Prime kobe wins in 2011,2012,2013,2014 .... and he feeds mozgov in 2015 to have a fighting chance against a better team while shooting much better than 28% beyond 5 feet




People shouldnt hate on kobe for scaring peoplw away. Its obviously not due to a lack of winning. People are just shook of his personality/work ethic/passion and greatness


They dont wanna be overshadowed. Rightfully so. Who does.

Colluders and ring chasers all assume theyre gonna get respect and credit if theyre the #1 guy... but look at lebron. Hes proven this is a lie.



All colluding backstabbers are scum whether they win or not. So keep them away from the lakers. We dont need em

That is false

Wilt did it in '67
Unless you count Kareem's corpse, Magic did it in '88
Bird won 3 titles without a top 25 player of all time
Duncan won 3 titles without a top 25 player of all time, 5 if you don't count past prime Robinson ('99) and corpse Robinson ('03)

[kennethgriffin]

That is false

Wilt did it in '67
Unless you count Kareem's corpse, Magic did it in '88
Bird won 3 titles without a top 25 player of all time
Duncan won 3 titles without a top 25 player of all time, 5 if you don't count past prime Robinson ('99) and corpse Robinson ('03)


Kareem was only 3 years removed from winning finals mvp

Robinson was great in 99

And parker will be a top 30 player all time when hes retired

Imagine if kawhi didnt take fmvp in 2014.. parker also averaged 18ppg for the series and was their leader all year


Wilt had another top 50 player all time for his first title.. and that team had 3-4 hall of famers

[I<3NBA]

lose-lose situation. Lebron gets help, he's a colluder. Lebron doesn't get help, he's a choker.

:confusedshrug: seems fair to me.

[BasedTom]

Kareem was only 3 years removed from winning finals mvp

Robinson was great in 99

And parker will be a top 30 player all time when hes retired

Imagine if kawhi didnt take fmvp in 2014.. parker also averaged 18ppg for the series and was their leader all year


Wilt had another top 50 player all time for his first title.. and that team had 3-4 hall of famers
Dumbest thing I've ever read on ISH.

[SouBeachTalents]

Kareem was only 3 years removed from winning finals mvp

Robinson was great in 99

And parker will be a top 30 player all time when hes retired

Imagine if kawhi didnt take fmvp in 2014.. parker also averaged 18ppg for the series and was their leader all year


Wilt had another top 50 player all time for his first title.. and that team had 3-4 hall of famers

Bruh, Kareem was averaging 14 ppg in the playoffs, why even pretend like he was still elite or even that good anymore, he was 4th option for fuccs sake

And Robinson was still good (not great) in '99, but '09 & '10 Gasol > '99 Robinson

And you high on cocaine if you truly believe Parker will end up in the top 30 of all time. He'll end up top 50 if he's lucky

[kennethgriffin]

lose-lose situation. Lebron gets help, he's a colluder. Lebron doesn't get help, he's a choker.

:confusedshrug: seems fair to me.


Lebron chokes with or without help though

[kennethgriffin]

Bruh, Kareem was averaging 14 ppg in the playoffs, why even pretend like he was still elite or even that good anymore, he was 4th option for fuccs sake

And Robinson was still good (not great) in '99, but '09 & '10 Gasol > '99 Robinson

And you high on cocaine if you truly believe Parker will end up in the top 30 of all time. He'll end up top 50 if he's lucky


Agreed


Kareem 1988
Duncan 2014


Void.

[Poochymama]

That is false

Wilt did it in '67
Unless you count Kareem's corpse, Magic did it in '88
Bird won 3 titles without a top 25 player of all time
Duncan won 3 titles without a top 25 player of all time, 5 if you don't count past prime Robinson ('99) and corpse Robinson ('03)

Also, Pippen isn't top 25 imo. Close, but not quite.

[pastis]

The way i look at it.

blablabla

Meanwhile throughout history all the other greats other than hakeem won absolutely nothing without another top 25 player all time

blablabla

Dirk Nowitzki? yea i know now comes the question what is an all time great? only top 10? all time great is top 25.

and your so called top 90 player played at least, and i think you have to agree here, as good as kobe in the 2010 playoffs

[KiiiiNG]

op is a sad case.

imagine what his poor mom thinks of his 30+ year old son who does nothing but troll about kobe all day on a message board..

same recycled threads, ... same agenda ... and the same attention seeking behavior that makes us all wish kenneth would just die already. he brings a negative vibe to the board...

in his mind hes trolling. all fun and games. but no... theres a severe deficiency in this guys life and he uses kobe and troll threads to 'fix' it.

:facepalm

[dubeta]

Kobe's entire career is a lose-lose situation, nothing new, that's what happens when you are a fan of a beta.

[dubeta]

Oh and we're forgetting about the super collusion in 2012? :oldlol:


Prime Dwight Howard, All Star Nash, still have Gasol, just to get the 7th seed?

Kobe's entire career is an underachievement

[I<3NBA]

Lebron chokes with or without help though
FOH with your delusional narrative.

the times Lebron's teammates turned up, they won a championship. he only really choked in 2011. everything else has been his team mates choking (or being injured).

[j3lademaster]

Bruh, Kareem was averaging 14 ppg in the playoffs, why even pretend like he was still elite or even that good anymore, he was 4th option for fuccs sake

And Robinson was still good (not great) in '99, but '09 & '10 Gasol > '99 Robinson

And you high on cocaine if you truly believe Parker will end up in the top 30 of all time. He'll end up top 50 if he's luckyclarify the 99 DRob vs 10 Gasol please. Relative to the league, I agree because Gasol was a top 2 center when put in that position and thus better; but in a vacuum 99 Drob > 10 Gasol quite comfortably.

[ISHGoat]

the real lose/lose situation is everytime OP makes a thread

either you respond and feed the troll and give him the attention he wants

or

you let him continue on his kobe slurping campaign

the only remedy is for mods to ban him

[Ne 1]

Oh and we're forgetting about the super collusion in 2012? :oldlol:


Prime Dwight Howard, All Star Nash, still have Gasol, just to get the 7th seed?

Kobe's entire career is an underachievement
And how many games did they all actually play together?

[kennethgriffin]

Oh and we're forgetting about the super collusion in 2012? :oldlol:


Prime Dwight Howard, All Star Nash, still have Gasol, just to get the 7th seed?

Kobe's entire career is an underachievement


What super collusion?

Howard was traded and the lakers gave up bynum in the deal. Then 40 year old nash ring chased. I mentioned that the only time a superstar runs to the lakers theyre 40 and past their best days.


How is being traded there for another allstar in return colluding


Youre pretty damn retarded

[kennethgriffin]

clarify the 99 DRob vs 10 Gasol please. Relative to the league, I agree because Gasol was a top 2 center when put in that position and thus better; but in a vacuum 99 Drob > 10 Gasol quite comfortably.



Numbers dont tell the whole story

Robinson is a top 20 player all time

Gasol is 90th all time... whether or not one or the other is averaging 3-4 more points the better player is still robinson